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Army Guy "Kleens" out the cabinets with LG, AI, PES, USP, and the kitchen sink!

Did somebody use the q word in here? Now that is the blasphemy. Rest, regroup and go at it again is the closest option allowed!
 
This is one of my favorites....

"Show me a good looser and Ill show you a looser"

Stuey Ungar RIP
 
It's always too soon to quit...
 
Ok guys while everyone is trying to figure out what happened with their reps (lol this is great!!!) I am going to give some workout numbers, though I feel that some of these dropped like all of our reps did!!!
Chest:
HS Flat chest press -
up to only 3 plates per side, but was going for reps. Got 12 on most, but only 8 on the last
HS Incline - Doing a lot of HS machines because of the leg stability
2 plates and a 25 - 4 sets averaged about 12 :(
SuperSet of Cable crossovers and Peck Deck
4 sets and got between 12-15 reps each

PAUSE COMMENTARY
this is the first time in almost 2 months that I have done a full chest lift and the numbers were a bit on the soft side, but the pump was INSANE!!! I have never filled up so fast in my life! Supp commentary at the end of post

Triceps
2 hand overhead extensions - again going for reps so the weight is lighter
started with 105's then up to 120 and got 12 then 10 reps back down to 105 for only 8 for the burnout... that was odd....
Dips
body weight only to give the elbows a break
4 sets 15
Cable overhead reverse extensions (back facing machine) supper set with standing normal cable extensions
4 sets 15-25 reps
The pump was so great that I had veins on the TRICEP!!!! that was a new one and VERY UBER COOL!!!

abs
bike for 15 min for physical therapy

Supps
2 scoops ASGT
6 scoops AP
2 Titanium (upped the dose and I think this added to the crazy pumps and filling of the chest so quickly this morning. No other explanation... open to suggestions here, but I have taken everything else before and this great filling up has never happened. Wish I would have taken measurements, but I know I gained multiple inches on the chest and arms!
2 Formadrol Extreme
 
HS Incline - Doing a lot of HS machines because of the leg stability
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What do you mean by this? You're talking about Hammer Strength, right?
 
yeah. I like to use DBs and BBs, but the DB are too much for the leg to handle right now. Had knee surgery 2 weeks ago today. It is still real weak and carrying the 45lb plates for Hammer Strength is all the legs can handle. Stupid leg!!!
 
Army Guy said:
yeah. I like to use DBs and BBs, but the DB are too much for the leg to handle right now. Had knee surgery 2 weeks ago today. It is still real weak and carrying the 45lb plates for Hammer Strength is all the legs can handle. Stupid leg!!!
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Gotchya! Not sure why I didn't make the connection, lol :think:
 
lol all good my friend!!! by the way... LOVING the HGHPro!!! Cycling 5 on 2 off and last night was off.
 
at first I had the odd dreams, but now they have stabilized. On my 2nd month on this, so I guess the body is adapting.... which sucks!!!
 
HGHPro is a stellar product. I am also doing 5 on and 2 off now as I've been running it for 6 weeks. I did have some funny dreams but not as much as I used to have with ZMA.
 
Army Guy said:
yeah. I like to use DBs and BBs, but the DB are too much for the leg to handle right now. Had knee surgery 2 weeks ago today. It is still real weak and carrying the 45lb plates for Hammer Strength is all the legs can handle. Stupid leg!!!
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It will all get better soon. Hang in there. I guarantee you that 90% of people that just had knee surgery wouldn't be no where near a gym.

You're a real trooper. Outstanding determination and resolve. :clap2: :35:

 
thanks my brother!!!
went to the gym this morning
Cardio on the Elliptical machine: 60 minutes and 930 cals burned. Very successful, and the knee took it like a champ!!!
 
Army Guy said:
thanks my brother!!!
went to the gym this morning
Cardio on the Elliptical machine: 60 minutes and 930 cals burned. Very successful, and the knee took it like a champ!!!
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That's a good test for where you're at right now, low impact but still some knee involvement.
 
agreed, and it felt surprisingly good. I was only on level 6-7 for that. Thursday will try it at 10. Will be my first big test.
 
Just be careful. There's a fine line between committed and crazy. Just trying to make sure you don't re-injure yourself and set yourself back. That would suck.
 
ex-tightend83 said:
Just be careful. There's a fine line between committed and crazy. Just trying to make sure you don't re-injure yourself and set yourself back. That would suck.
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Oh AG is undoubtably crazy regardless. Hope the knee heals quickly and fully!
 
lol thanks guys, and I think one has to be a bit on the insane side in order to do what we do. It seems perfectly normal to us, but the rest of the world looks at the pain we put our bodies through and calls us nuts!!!
however these are the same schmucks who want a miracle pill or a miracle vibrating dumbbell to save them from the fat lazy turds that they are...
 
Army Guy said:
lol thanks guys, and I think one has to be a bit on the insane side in order to do what we do. It seems perfectly normal to us, but the rest of the world looks at the pain we put our bodies through and calls us nuts!!!
however these are the same schmucks who want a miracle pill or a miracle vibrating dumbbell to save them from the fat lazy turds that they are...
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Lol

But so very true
 
Army Guy said:
lol thanks guys, and I think one has to be a bit on the insane side in order to do what we do. It seems perfectly normal to us, but the rest of the world looks at the pain we put our bodies through and calls us nuts!!!
however these are the same schmucks who want a miracle pill or a miracle vibrating dumbbell to save them from the fat lazy turds that they are...
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Actually, I think I saw a vibrating dumbbell on one of those late-night infomercials the other night...lol.
 
I wont even comment on what i think those vibrating dumbells workouts look like...but i bet im not the only one who thought that.


Hey a little insanity is a necessity if one wants to makes something of themselves. I think we all can relate to being the crazy guy out of the group(unless you have the good fortune of running with a pack of fellow nuts). Its just understood....we are crazy and its ok they love us anyway.
 
Army Guy said:
however these are the same schmucks who want a miracle pill or a miracle vibrating dumbbell to save them from the fat lazy turds that they are...
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HI-OOOOH!!!!!

ah-cha-cha
 
lol you guys are killing me!!! Love the pic and vids!!!

quick update. Hit the gym this morning and was going to do back and biceps, but did back and legs in stead. The biceps were a bit fatigued from the back workout and I want maximum push when I hit them as they are by far my worst upper body muscle group
Back
6 sets of 10-15 reps pull downs both wide and narrow grip
stayed around 200lbs
5 sets one arm rows
pyramid from 1 plate per side up to 5 per side. got 15 reps on all but the last set with the 5 plates
decided to try DL with the knee. Only did 135 for obvious reasons. I want to form to be absolutely perfect on these. only did 2 sets. Form was shaky on the 1st few reps set one and the last few set 2 with the knee adjusting to the weight again. The bending of the knee was what kept the form a bit shaky. There was a bit of pain, but it was rehab pain not "what the hell are you doing?" pain, so that was good
Legs
single leg extensions
only did 37lbs here for obvious reasons. Nice and slow fighting through the pain, but the good pain not the bad
4 sets
leg press
up to 100lbs for 4 sets. Knee felt good on these
calf raises
4 sets
abs
bike for 15 minutes and the pressure on the knee was good. The knee felt good upon leaving, no pain at all just a little soreness. Nice and slow, but pretty happy with the first time on legs since getting cut open!
 
Army Guy said:
lol thanks guys, and I think one has to be a bit on the insane side in order to do what we do. It seems perfectly normal to us, but the rest of the world looks at the pain we put our bodies through and calls us nuts!!!
however these are the same schmucks who want a miracle pill or a miracle vibrating dumbbell to save them from the fat lazy turds that they are...
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I was trying to explain the love of pain to some co-workers yesterday, the best I could come up with is that I can feel the difference between good pain and injury and I like the good pain... I crave it... relish it ... make it last.
 
Army Guy said:
lol you guys are killing me!!! Love the pic and vids!!!

quick update. Hit the gym this morning and was going to do back and biceps, but did back and legs in stead. The biceps were a bit fatigued from the back workout and I want maximum push when I hit them as they are by far my worst upper body muscle group
Back
6 sets of 10-15 reps pull downs both wide and narrow grip
stayed around 200lbs
5 sets one arm rows
pyramid from 1 plate per side up to 5 per side. got 15 reps on all but the last set with the 5 plates
decided to try DL with the knee. Only did 135 for obvious reasons. I want to form to be absolutely perfect on these. only did 2 sets. Form was shaky on the 1st few reps set one and the last few set 2 with the knee adjusting to the weight again. The bending of the knee was what kept the form a bit shaky. There was a bit of pain, but it was rehab pain not "what the hell are you doing?" pain, so that was good
Legs
single leg extensions
only did 37lbs here for obvious reasons. Nice and slow fighting through the pain, but the good pain not the bad
4 sets
leg press
up to 100lbs for 4 sets. Knee felt good on these
calf raises
4 sets
abs
bike for 15 minutes and the pressure on the knee was good. The knee felt good upon leaving, no pain at all just a little soreness. Nice and slow, but pretty happy with the first time on legs since getting cut open!
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Proud of you Major, it must have taken a lot of restraint not to push it. Well done on the rest of the workout, you are seriously a beast on some of your exercises! :box:
 
DreamWeaver said:
I was trying to explain the love of pain to some co-workers yesterday, the best I could come up with is that I can feel the difference between good pain and injury and I like the good pain... I crave it... relish it ... make it last.
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yeah I am not that successful explaining this either... uggghhhhh
edwitt said:
Nice to see the leg holding up mate, respect

Great job
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thanks my friend!!
VolcomX311 said:
Are you using knee wraps AG?
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I have some kind of ninja knee wrap thing from my last surgery that I use. It is uncomfortable, but holds things together for the time being
ex-tightend83 said:
Bwahahahahahahaha!!! Good one, DW!!!
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:stooges: :bigok:
 
ex-tightend83 said:
Bwahahahahahahaha!!! Good one, DW!!!
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lol yah and I was thinking the extra large vibrator and the big lady is a good way to describe our obsession with pain... They both hurt but it feels good... a rather unpleasant metaphor imagery wise but it drives home the point...
 
DreamWeaver said:
lol yah and I was thinking the extra large vibrator and the big lady is a good way to describe our obsession with pain... They both hurt but it feels good... a rather unpleasant metaphor imagery wise but it drives home the point...
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Give me the big girl but you can DEFINITELY keep the vibrator. Pass-a-dena!!!
 
Anything "ninja" is always pre-approved.

However, I would suggest INZER triple strapped knee wraps. If the ninja wrap no longer suffices.
 
I am thinking about purchasing knee wraps myself but I read somewhere that just like belts, you do not want your body to get used to support. As long as you do the exercise properly then you will be fine. It this true?
 
Feel you on the knee thing AG, I am going cautiously on my own until I can put some more money in my HSA to pay for meniscus surgery
 
oafinest said:
I am thinking about purchasing knee wraps myself but I read somewhere that just like belts, you do not want your body to get used to support. As long as you do the exercise properly then you will be fine. It this true?
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Depends how heavy you go. Your knees hardly ever perform "bad form" on a squat or dead lift. It's a hinge joint, it only moves in two directions during a squat or dead lift. The only joints that suffers from bad form are the shoulder and wrist joints and that's because they're multi-directional. Elbows, knees, only move in one or two directions (elbows can't hyper-extend, so they technically only move in one direction, flexion). Joint issues arrive from cumulative stress and your personal genetics will determine whether you get them or not. However, lifting heavy and straining those joints over time will more then likely move you into the "will have" margin.

Also, Knee Wraps are nothing like Belts in principle. Belts may caused diminished natural core strength, core strength is a muscle issue. Knee wraps don't cause a diminish of anything (except for injuries) because you don't have knee bone muscles. You're protecting a hinge with a knee wrap. With a belt, your protecting your spine, but in the process, the belt effects how your abs and spinal erector muscles co-contract (aka your core).

How you know whether someone's advice is good or not, isn't about what they tell you what you should and shouldn't do, it's if they can reasonably explain why you should or shouldn't do it. Otherwise, its more like a myth then sound advice.

The only type of tissues around a knee joint, are cartilage, ligaments and tendons and they don't contract, they just hold things together, therefore, you're not taking anything away with a wrap. With a belt, the pressure causes a false contraction, so the core doesn't necessarily have to contract as hard to create stability and that is the theory as to why belts diminish natural core strength, over time.

and knowing is half the battle.

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VolcomX311 said:
Depends how heavy you go. Your knees hardly ever perform "bad form" on a squat or dead lift. It's a hinge joint, it only moves in two directions during a squat or dead lift. The only joints that suffers from bad form are the shoulder and wrist joints and that's because they're multi-directional. Elbows, knees, only move in one or two directions (elbows can't hyper-extend, so they technically only move in one direction, flexion). Joint issues arrive from cumulative stress and your personal genetics will determine whether you get them or not. However, lifting heavy and straining those joints over time will more then likely move you into the "will have" margin.

Also, Knee Wraps are nothing like Belts in principle. Belts may caused diminished natural core strength, core strength is a muscle issue. Knee wraps don't cause a diminish of anything (except for injuries) because you don't have knee bone muscles. You're protecting a hinge with a knee wrap. With a belt, your protecting your spine, but in the process, the belt effects how your abs and spinal erector muscles co-contract (aka your core).

How you know whether someone's advice is good or not, isn't about what they tell you what you should and shouldn't do, it's if they can reasonably explain why you should or shouldn't do it. Otherwise, its more like a myth then sound advice.

and knowing is half the battle.

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:goodpost:
 
VolcomX311 said:
Depends how heavy you go. Your knees hardly ever perform "bad form" on a squat or dead lift. It's a hinge joint, it only moves in two directions during a squat or dead lift. The only joints that suffers from bad form are the shoulder and wrist joints and that's because they're multi-directional. Elbows, knees, only move in one or two directions (elbows can't hyper-extend, so they technically only move in one direction, flexion). Joint issues arrive from cumulative stress and your personal genetics will determine whether you get them or not. However, lifting heavy and straining those joints over time will more then likely move you into the "will have" margin.

Also, Knee Wraps are nothing like Belts in principle. Belts may caused diminished natural core strength, core strength is a muscle issue. Knee wraps don't cause a diminish of anything (except for injuries) because you don't have knee bone muscles. You're protecting a hinge with a knee wrap. With a belt, your protecting your spine, but in the process, the belt effects how your abs and spinal erector muscles co-contract (aka your core).

How you know whether someone's advice is good or not, isn't about what they tell you what you should and shouldn't do, it's if they can reasonably explain why you should or shouldn't do it. Otherwise, its more like a myth then sound advice.

The only type of tissues around a knee joint, are cartilage, ligaments and tendons and they don't contract, they just hold things together, therefore, you're not taking anything away with a wrap. With a belt, the pressure causes a false contraction, so the core doesn't necessarily have to contract as hard to create stability and that is the theory as to why belts diminish natural core strength, over time.

and knowing is half the battle.

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Excellent post man

:deal:
 
Army Guy said:
decided to try DL with the knee. Only did 135 for obvious reasons. I want to form to be absolutely perfect on these. only did 2 sets. Form was shaky on the 1st few reps set one and the last few set 2 with the knee adjusting to the weight again. The bending of the knee was what kept the form a bit shaky. There was a bit of pain, but it was rehab pain not "what the hell are you doing?" pain, so that was good
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This is what sets you apart from everyone else AG. You're determined to show that leg who's boss. Deadlifts ~2 weeks after surgery? Madness!?! SPARTA!!!!!
 
Army Guy said:
Legs
single leg extensions
only did 37lbs here for obvious reasons. Nice and slow fighting through the pain, but the good pain not the bad
4 sets
leg press
up to 100lbs for 4 sets. Knee felt good on these
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I've been meaning to ask you if you were doing uni-lateral exercises for the good leg.
Some heavy single-legged leg presses are spectacular. Even if you're not injured. It's a good way to mix up things up.
But this way you can keep your good leg's strength up to maximum levels while re-habbing the repaired knee. Go heavy with the good leg and light with the bad one until it catches up.
 
Totally agree with TG!
 
If you lose core strength by using a belt, I have the solution ... wheel of death... it's that simple.
 
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