Tell Us What You Would Like to See From SNS & CEL (2023 Edition)

TommyTuffGuy said:
It's opposite for me, as the dude on Fitness Deal News says: AY makes me go into SURVIVAL MODE!!!
YHCL has NO sides for me whatsoever.
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I’m like that too. AY makes me anxious and jittery as hell even at low doses. Y-HCl I can take about 15mgs a day when cutting and feel 100% fine - and I usually add it to an EC stack.
 
LucasBagoDoce said:
I’m like that too. AY makes me anxious and jittery as hell even at low doses. Y-HCl I can take about 15mgs a day when cutting and feel 100% fine - and I usually add it to an EC stack.
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man i wish a supplement could make me anxious. i would turn that anxiety into pure productivity.
 
thescience said:
man i wish a supplement could make me anxious. i would turn that anxiety into pure productivity.
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Problem is that this kind of anxiety is so counterproductive… jitters, brain fog, irregular heartbeat, dizziness.
Y HCl makes me feel good, though. Active, energetic, and productive
Guess I’m the opposite of most people when it comes to Yohimbine
 
sns8778 said:
We are going to be doing a very comprehensive hair, skin, and nails formula probably Q1 of next year. It's a very special project to me and it will be more than just a product; not trying to sound vague, it's just a lot to it and will tie in with some special causes and things so there's a lot more to planning it than just the formula, which itself is done.

First, congratulations on the pregnancy. I will keep you and her in my prayers.

The issue with hair loss and pregnancy is that it is usually hormonal but can be from other things. Biotin is one of the standard go to's for that and it does work for a lot of women, but not everyone. The issue and risky part there is that its not safe or ethical for any ingredients to be tested on pregnant women, so there is a lack of knowledge in general on how things will help with that. I do know of a couple of ingredients that may help, but you would need to check with your doctor to make sure it is okay for her to use them - I have seen clinical studies showing that it is, but this is one of those always ask your doctor situations before having her use anything. BUT I want to check and see if I can find a brand of it that I trust or trust more than others for you - do me a favor and send me a pm with your email address, or if you have my email address, send me an email about this. I am making a note to look and see who is making what I'm thinking about right now. I'm actually thinking of doing one when we do a women's line, but that will be next year sometimes.
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pm sent, thank you very much!
 
sns8778 said:
We are going to be doing a very comprehensive hair, skin, and nails formula probably Q1 of next year. It's a very special project to me and it will be more than just a product; not trying to sound vague, it's just a lot to it and will tie in with some special causes and things so there's a lot more to planning it than just the formula, which itself is done.

First, congratulations on the pregnancy. I will keep you and her in my prayers.

The issue with hair loss and pregnancy is that it is usually hormonal but can be from other things. Biotin is one of the standard go to's for that and it does work for a lot of women, but not everyone. The issue and risky part there is that its not safe or ethical for any ingredients to be tested on pregnant women, so there is a lack of knowledge in general on how things will help with that. I do know of a couple of ingredients that may help, but you would need to check with your doctor to make sure it is okay for her to use them - I have seen clinical studies showing that it is, but this is one of those always ask your doctor situations before having her use anything. BUT I want to check and see if I can find a brand of it that I trust or trust more than others for you - do me a favor and send me a pm with your email address, or if you have my email address, send me an email about this. I am making a note to look and see who is making what I'm thinking about right now. I'm actually thinking of doing one when we do a women's line, but that will be next year sometimes.
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Very excited about this product and will 100% be buying.
 
kjscatch said:
Very excited about this product and will 100% be buying.
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Thank you. I'm very excited about that product and about the project in general.
 
I wanted to let everyone know that we received Cloma-Plex in stock yesterday.

Here is a link to the post in the thread with the back in stock discount prices:

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Are you still coming out with a product for gut health or is it already out? I remember reading that somewhere on here and was interested in picking it up once it came out.
 
Stacks1 said:
Are you still coming out with a product for gut health or is it already out? I remember reading that somewhere on here and was interested in picking it up once it came out.
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We are still planning on coming out with it.

There are actually going to be several different products - a very comprehensive overall gut health formula, a multi biotic formula that will be very unique, and then a probiotic that has a specific emphasis on fat loss in addition to gut health and immune support.
 
sns8778 said:
We are still planning on coming out with it.

There are actually going to be several different products - a very comprehensive overall gut health formula, a multi biotic formula that will be very unique, and then a probiotic that has a specific emphasis on fat loss in addition to gut health and immune support.
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Oh nice! I'm looking forward to it. I feel like companies should be addressing this more. Seems to be overlooked.
 
Stacks1 said:
Oh nice! I'm looking forward to it. I feel like companies should be addressing this more. Seems to be overlooked.
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Thank you. I agree.

I feel like more companies should be addressing this and I also feel like a lot of the existing products are formulated in a way to make the cheapest possible product and identify it as the highest CFU amounts - and that is deceptive because high CFU amounts may seem impressive, but their are some strains that high CFU amounts really still don't mean much, whereas there are some very potent forms that don't require high CFU amounts.
 
The SNS, CEL, and Muscle Addiction Labor Day Sale is now live.

See this thread for full details and specials:

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And just a fun teaser of exciting things to come soon.

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Searched and didnt look like the folks at AM were too excited about Peptistrong when Glaxon introduced it lol

Glaxon Anomaly - AnabolicMinds.com

Surprised nobody has talked about this. New muscle builder by Glaxon: ANOMALY INGREDIENTS: PeptiStrong™ - A biologically active network of peptides discovered by artificial intelligence in the common Fava bean. PeptiStrong™ has been shown to support overall muscle health by downregulating...
anabolicminds.com anabolicminds.com
 
Madevilz said:
Searched and didnt look like the folks at AM were too excited about Peptistrong when Glaxon introduced it lol

Glaxon Anomaly - AnabolicMinds.com

Surprised nobody has talked about this. New muscle builder by Glaxon: ANOMALY INGREDIENTS: PeptiStrong™ - A biologically active network of peptides discovered by artificial intelligence in the common Fava bean. PeptiStrong™ has been shown to support overall muscle health by downregulating...
anabolicminds.com anabolicminds.com
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In the link you posted, no one said anything of any substance about the ingredient itself - and I doubt that many looked into it well enough to - that thread went straight to 'let's bash Glaxon for their prices and shiny labels'.

And one of the negative posters in that thread used to bash basically everything and finally got himself banned for it.

So I don't think a less than a page thread of people complaining about Glaxon's prices and labels and one person complaining over something he didn't even understand really has anything to do with the ingredient itself.

Here is a good article on PeptiStrong you can check out:

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thescience said:
the machines are taking over and ensuring I have ample MTOR activation. stoked.
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Ha. I'm glad you're excited.

I'm very excited for this one myself.
 
Madevilz said:
Searched and didnt look like the folks at AM were too excited about Peptistrong when Glaxon introduced it lol

Glaxon Anomaly - AnabolicMinds.com

Surprised nobody has talked about this. New muscle builder by Glaxon: ANOMALY INGREDIENTS: PeptiStrong™ - A biologically active network of peptides discovered by artificial intelligence in the common Fava bean. PeptiStrong™ has been shown to support overall muscle health by downregulating...
anabolicminds.com anabolicminds.com
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thanks for including the link. yeah there is a guy on there saying who cares about a comparison to the protein synthesis induced by insulin! newsflash: the effect insulin has on protein synthesis is absolutely no joke.

my experience with mtor supporting ingredients has been either a profound hit or a total miss. sometimes i wonder if all the leucine i take has maxed me out in that area. regardless, anything along these lines is a must-try
 
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thescience said:
thanks for including the link. yeah there is a guy on there saying who cares about a comparison to the protein synthesis induced by insulin. the effect insulin has on protein synthesis is absolutely no joke.

my experience with mtor supporting ingredients has been either a profound hit or a total miss. sometimes i wonder if all the leucine i take has maxed me out in that area. regardless, anything along these lines is a must-try
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The person in that thread saying that was one of the most disrespectful and antagonizing posters on AM. He used to bash pretty much any legit ingredient and company. He would put down legit researched ingredients but then try to promote random peptide or nootropic nasal sprays.

Finally got himself banned for bashing after the Admin warned him a ton of times.

I had went out of my way to be nice to him and I don’t think that’s even what he even wanted; just wanted start trouble and argue.
 
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sns8778 said:
The person in that thread saying that was one of the most disrespectful and antagonizing posters on AM. He used to bash pretty much any legit ingredient and company. He would put down legit researched ingredients but then try to promote random peptide or nootropic nasal sprays.

Finally got himself banned for bashing after the Admin warned him a ton of times.

I had went out of my way to be nice to him and I don’t think that’s even what he even wanted; just wanted start trouble and argue.
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He was an odd duck - started off on here as a nice fellow, asked a lot of questions and seemed interested in learning. But then somewhere along the way he started majoring in the minors, looking at all of the most fringe/lowest evidence ingredients/methods as the answer to everything AND suddenly gaining a superiority complex for it. Ripping on anything he didn’t decide to try and acting like he was better than everyone else. Got pretty bipolar, and lots of posting very obviously under the influence when he was in a mood.

Good riddance!
 
Hyde said:
He was an odd duck - started off on here as a nice fellow, asked a lot of questions and seemed interested in learning. But then somewhere along the way he started majoring in the minors, looking at all of the most fringe/lowest evidence ingredients/methods as the answer to everything AND suddenly gaining a superiority complex for it. Ripping on anything he didn’t decide to try and acting like he was better than everyone else. Got pretty bipolar, and lots of posting very obviously under the influence when he was in a mood.

Good riddance!
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It's funny that you mentioned that about him because I remember when I saw some posts of his where he was being a real jerk, thinking to myself - is this the person I thought it was? But then I figured I maybe confused him with someone else; but my initial thought then was that he had been nice and helpful at one point. The way you described him at first is the way I remembered it, nice and seemed genuinely interested in learning.

But yeah, it was like all of a sudden he became one of the most condescending and antagonizing posters on here, and you're absolutely right - it was like all of a sudden he thought he was smarter and better than everyone else.

I remember several time he tried to argue with me over thing related to the supply chain in the industry and was going off of what he read on Reddit - whereas I got my start in the industry doing raw material sourcing and formulation for other companies before I even started SNS, and have been working on the supply chain side for 19 years. I remember trying to nicely explain to him the way things actually worked on that side of things, and he had no interest in learning, he just wanted to be right.

And I remember him bashing brands and ingredients that were good brands and had legit studies, but then in the next breathe was promoting nootropic and peptide nasal sprays and stuff that people were literally just making in their homes. It was almost surreal - it seemed like he kind of became a conspiracy theorist and thought the answer to all supplements lay with some obscure companies and that all the companies that did things the right way were conspiring together. Really odd.

I remember the subject that got him banned - the Admin had deleted stuff and said for it to stop multiple times, gave him and a few others every chance in the world to stop it; and the stuff they were saying was so against the forum rules (and wrong) that it was baffling that it just kept happening. I think the disrespect there with that situation was one of the reasons that now the Admin just bans people and doesn't even really give much in the way of chances.
 
I’m not sure if this was requested, but as far as anti aging or slowing down the aging process or improving skin quality and elasticity etc.
Is there is anything in the works!
 
NattyJuicer said:
I’m not sure if this was requested, but as far as anti aging or slowing down the aging process or improving skin quality and elasticity etc.
Is there is anything in the works!
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there was a thread about it, still waiting on the product. Gonna hit 39 in a month, not getting any younger Steve!!
 
NattyJuicer said:
I’m not sure if this was requested, but as far as anti aging or slowing down the aging process or improving skin quality and elasticity etc.
Is there is anything in the works!
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I know there’s been talk of anti-aging supps at some point here, but I wanted to mention that growth hormone also does help skin elasticity/shrink looser skin some - and elevated GH is actually aging. But you see it with “anti-aging” clinics still because it helps skin quality. Of course you don’t need much of it.

So I wanted to draw attention to the idea that in addition to any actual longevity anti-aging supps, any supplements that increase your growth hormone would help support that skin goal too.

This is also a benefit of doing some periodic extended fasts for a few days, where the longer you fast the higher your GH creeps up (and autophagy helps clean up old damaged cells).
 
Hyde said:
I know there’s been talk of anti-aging supps at some point here, but I wanted to mention that growth hormone also does help skin elasticity/shrink looser skin some - and elevated GH is actually aging. But you see it with “anti-aging” clinics still because it helps skin quality. Of course you don’t need much of it.

So I wanted to draw attention to the idea that in addition to any actual longevity anti-aging supps, any supplements that increase your growth hormone would help support that skin goal too.

This is also a benefit of doing some periodic extended fasts for a few days, where the longer you fast the higher your GH creeps up (and autophagy helps clean up old damaged cells).
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I thought about doing something along the lines of a GH type increasing supplement under the anti-aging/longevity lineup when that happens; but also, we should be launching the updated version of Growth Factor XT soon too.
 
NattyJuicer said:
I’m not sure if this was requested, but as far as anti aging or slowing down the aging process or improving skin quality and elasticity etc.
Is there is anything in the works!
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Yes, I've been considering doing a few anti-aging & longevity products under SNS, but also have been wanting to do a sub-brand of SNS that would be specifically geared towards anti-aging and longevity. It's a huge project and one that I've put a ton of time and research into, and I'm hoping if all goes well to be able to launch it Q1 of next year.

Madevilz said:
there was a thread about it, still waiting on the product. Gonna hit 39 in a month, not getting any younger Steve!!
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Ha. I'm doing my best, I need it too haha.

On a serious note, I'm hoping to launch some really unique and comprehensive anti-aging/longevity products around the beginning of the year if all goes well.
 
NattyJuicer said:
I’m not sure if this was requested, but as far as anti aging or slowing down the aging process or improving skin quality and elasticity etc.
Is there is anything in the works!
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Tretinoin: The most researched, science backed ingrediant for skin. It's prescription only. Though it's not illegal to import or posses in the U.S.

Vitamin C(+ Vit. E & ferulic acid) serum: Vitamin C is a cofactor for the synthesis of Collagen). Our skin is made up of 70-80% collagen. The downside is that Vit. C oxidizes rapidly(especially in the presence of oxygen) but Vit. E and Ferulic acid have shown to extend it's lifespan, increase it's antioxidant levels and adds further to its photoprection.

Phoprotection is extremely important to skin health. Sun exposure is the quickest way to age your skin, increases wrinkles, suns⁸pots and the likelihood of skin cancer.

Niacinamide: A book could be written on this ingrediant. Acceptional Pre/Post sun/photoprotection, improves uneven skin tone, brightens skin, helps fix a damaged skin barrier and so much more.

Oil Cleansing Method(OCM): Great way to clean/cleanse your skin(face), improve your skin barrier protection and the quality/appearance of your skin.

These are your top three for skin/skin quality. There are more but most herbs/ingredients have little to no research or flawed studies. I could mention a few more if you are interested.
 
sns8778 said:
I thought about doing something along the lines of a GH type increasing supplement under the anti-aging/longevity lineup when that happens; but also, we should be launching the updated version of Growth Factor XT soon too.
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That would definitely be something for him to look at!
 
Brianmc83 said:
Steve any update on focus xt? Really been missing this my favorite all time supplement
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I'm really hoping that we will have most of the flavors back in stock in October.

As soon as we get the existing ones back in stock we plan to launch a few new flavors too.
 
Ape McGrapes said:
Tretinoin: The most researched, science backed ingrediant for skin. It's prescription only. Though it's not illegal to import or posses in the U.S.

Vitamin C(+ Vit. E & ferulic acid) serum: Vitamin C is a cofactor for the synthesis of Collagen). Our skin is made up of 70-80% collagen. The downside is that Vit. C oxidizes rapidly(especially in the presence of oxygen) but Vit. E and Ferulic acid have shown to extend it's lifespan, increase it's antioxidant levels and adds further to its photoprection.

Phoprotection is extremely important to skin health. Sun exposure is the quickest way to age your skin, increases wrinkles, suns⁸pots and the likelihood of skin cancer.

Niacinamide: A book could be written on this ingrediant. Acceptional Pre/Post sun/photoprotection, improves uneven skin tone, brightens skin, helps fix a damaged skin barrier and so much more.

Oil Cleansing Method(OCM): Great way to clean/cleanse your skin(face), improve your skin barrier protection and the quality/appearance of your skin.

These are your top three for skin/skin quality. There are more but most herbs/ingredients have little to no research or flawed studies. I could mention a few more if you are interested.
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Great info thank you .
Niacinamide
I need to research this !!!
 
Hyde said:
I know there’s been talk of anti-aging supps at some point here, but I wanted to mention that growth hormone also does help skin elasticity/shrink looser skin some - and elevated GH is actually aging. But you see it with “anti-aging” clinics still because it helps skin quality. Of course you don’t need much of it.

So I wanted to draw attention to the idea that in addition to any actual longevity anti-aging supps, any supplements that increase your growth hormone would help support that skin goal too.

This is also a benefit of doing some periodic extended fasts for a few days, where the longer you fast the higher your GH creeps up (and autophagy helps clean up old damaged cells).
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Always been interested in this !
Mk677 was good but sides not worth it!
 
sns8778 said:
Yes, I've been considering doing a few anti-aging & longevity products under SNS, but also have been wanting to do a sub-brand of SNS that would be specifically geared towards anti-aging and longevity. It's a huge project and one that I've put a ton of time and research into, and I'm hoping if all goes well to be able to launch it Q1 of next year.



Ha. I'm doing my best, I need it too haha.

On a serious note, I'm hoping to launch some really unique and comprehensive anti-aging/longevity products around the beginning of the year if all goes well.
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I can’t wait bro !
And thank you so much for the products you bring to the market !
 
NattyJuicer said:
I can’t wait bro !
And thank you so much for the products you bring to the market !
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Thank you. We have a lot of exciting things planned - we just have to balance brining out new things with promoting the existing ones and increasing inventory levels of existing products to keep things in stock.
 
I'm a sucker for single ingredient stuff where I can mix and match easily into stacks...

Something I don't think I've seen solo but would love to be able to try on it's own: Oxyjun. I've seen it included in MST's cordyceps product, but thats about it.
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I looked at OxyJun when formulating Cardiovascular Support XT and had decided to go with ArjunaPure for it.

OxyJun is by InnoPhos and we do use a couple of their ingredients, but a lot of their ingredients are extremely expensive as compared to the same ingredient by other companies and in some of these cases, the specs are no different.

We use more branded ingredients than probably any other company our size and I love using branded ingredients BUT I'm always careful at selecting the ones that make sense to use, meaning that I'm not willing to charge a customer 3x the amount for using one that is comparable to the exact same ingredient. I hope that makes sense.

The only thing I'll say related to branded ingredients under the MST brand is that there has been an issue with at least one branded ingredient by them. Example - they claim to sell a branded single ingredient Capsimax and they name it Capsimax. The issue? Omni, the patent holder, does not allow anyone to use Capsimax in the name of the product and the licensing agreement with them requires them to review the labels - SO, if that's not allowed then they obviously never let Omni review their labels; so that leads one to question how they're actually getting the raw materials? Note: I'm not speaking badly about them; just speaking the truth.
 
lionking999 said:
any movement on the “prime” replacement ? extremely excited about that..
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The raw materials part of this was easy because I knew exactly where they got their raws for this, so that was no problem at all. They've already been ordered and the product is in process.

The hardest thing about this has just been figuring out what I was going to name it. I have to decide 100% on a name for it and then finalize the label text and how want the label to look. It will probably be the Recomp20 label style; I think that would make the most sense for this.

I had thought about doing 150 caps or 180 caps and leaning towards 180 caps because I really think the 5 on, 2 off pitch that did for dosing was more based on a sales pitch and to save a little cost per bottle than any actual rationale for it.
 
alvin1 said:
And what about the CEL NattyBolic, still a thing?
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Absolutely.

The story behind that is that I just wasn't 100% happy with the formula and I'm kind of a perfectionist. My original idea was to make a couple changes to it, but then I became involved in the process of working with a branded ingredient company on a really cool new branded ingredient that is in final testing stages and I really wanted that to be in there.

So, the original idea for Nattybolic is actually going to still be coming out but in a much better formula with more cool ingredients and under a different name here within the next few months. And then Nattybolic will be out not too long after and will contain a really exciting new branded ingredient as part of a very inclusive overall formula.

Those will both be under CEL.

The next new natural anabolic release in general will be SNS Pepti-Plex.
 
sns8778 said:
Absolutely.

The story behind that is that I just wasn't 100% happy with the formula and I'm kind of a perfectionist. My original idea was to make a couple changes to it, but then I became involved in the process of working with a branded ingredient company on a really cool new branded ingredient that is in final testing stages and I really wanted that to be in there.

So, the original idea for Nattybolic is actually going to still be coming out but in a much better formula with more cool ingredients and under a different name here within the next few months. And then Nattybolic will be out not too long after and will contain a really exciting new branded ingredient as part of a very inclusive overall formula.

Those will both be under CEL.

The next new natural anabolic release in general will be SNS Pepti-Plex.
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Great time Ahead! What is better to boost Mtor Pepti-plex or PA? What are the advantage of one compare to the other one? Should we stack both, or the mechanism of action will be to similar?
 
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