EvoMuse Presents: TopMuscle™ (writeup)

Rostam said:
Has anybody used it only pre workout? if so any feedback on results?
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I used it for two and a half months only preworkout. I always achieved great pumps in the muscle groups where it was applied. Strength increases were there as well but those seemed to level off over time. Still got the increased DOMS that everyone has talked about. Those too however, seemed to level off over time.

All in all it’s great product. I feel that I’ve really kept a lot of gains from it in my calves and chest. Applying it preworkout only might’ve lessened some of the gains I saw but I don’t think that’s the case. The pumps were always great and would last a genuinely long time after.

Had it been a more convenient and less smelly, colored topical, I probably would’ve applied it twice. That being said, with the ingredients Matt is using, I just don’t see this ever being a “clean” topical.

I will be purchasing this product again in the future.
 
Something that I've utilized with TopMuscle and other Evomuse topicals to somewhat mitigate the bad smell is to simply change my clothes before heading out somewhere. I find that even if I wait for the products to fully dry before putting on clothes over top there is still a bit that transfers to my clothing. Placing fresh clothes on top later on reduces the noticeable odor a great deal.
 
I sprayed my self down with ax and I still smell of top muscle lol . Today I did tri and back . I will see if I’m sore tomorrow .
 
djbombsquad said:
Let’s see how this goes. I will be doing my normal protein intake and not change my calories up. The only thing I will do is add the top muscle cream to my program and let’s see if I put in some size over the next two bottles .
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Keep us up to date please.

I’ve just received two bottles and I’ll do likewise.
A few muscles have been plateaued this past month or two so hopefully thisll be smash the plateau
 
JohnnieFreeze said:
I suspect its due to lower BF percentage and thin skin in your calves.
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A difference in BF% between the two parts is the first thing that comes to mind for me too.
It’s also possible tho that your arms are much closer to your genetic limit and so progress would naturally be slower than it would with a relatively undeveloped body part.
Also, I feel that theoretically top muscle should be extra synergistic when used with high volume training
 
First workout using top muscle so I can’t say much about it yet but the smell of this ‘new and improved batch’ with the added fragrance really isn’t bad at all and even kinda pleasant
 
Week two day two. I still smell in the gym. I like what I have so far . To early to tell . I don’t know if I’m any stronger or if I’m recovering faster .
 
u_e_s_i said:
First workout using top muscle so I can’t say much about it yet but the smell of this ‘new and improved batch’ with the added fragrance really isn’t bad at all and even kinda pleasant
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I wish . My stinks like a mofo.
 
how important is it that we have a shower before each application?
Would wiping down the application area with wet wipes beforehand be sufficient?
 
Unlike with the Evomuse fat loss topicals, I don't recall there being any need for showering beforehand for this product.
 
u_e_s_i said:
First workout using top muscle so I can’t say much about it yet but the smell of this ‘new and improved batch’ with the added fragrance really isn’t bad at all and even kinda pleasant
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That is great to hear! Did you try the first version?

I worked out before, prior to my son's football game and one of the mother's (who follows me along the sidelines) kept remarking that kept smelling urine. After the game, my wife said, "I think she was smelling the topical that you were wearing!" lol.
 
spiderduncan said:
That is great to hear! Did you try the first version?

I worked out before, prior to my son's football game and one of the mother's (who follows me along the sidelines) kept remarking that kept smelling urine. After the game, my wife said, "I think she was smelling the topical that you were wearing!" lol.
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That's what my wife told me 1 of the 2 bottles of reformulated TopMuscle smells like as well.
 
u_e_s_i said:
how important is it that we have a shower before each application?
Would wiping down the application area with wet wipes beforehand be sufficient?
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It’s your call on that one. It has absorption enhancers, like many topicals, so it could bring anything sitting on your skin along with it. That’s why showering is recommended. Totally up to you how closely you want to follow that.
 
spiderduncan said:
That is great to hear! Did you try the first version?

I worked out before, prior to my son's football game and one of the mother's (who follows me along the sidelines) kept remarking that kept smelling urine. After the game, my wife said, "I think she was smelling the topical that you were wearing!" lol.
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My wife has told me a few times now that I smell like wet dog (after getting home from the gym when I used beta version Top Muscle).

I have two bottles of the “improved” versions on the way. Hoping the smell is more tolerable.
 
I workout before work this morning. I woke up and showered then applied beta version Top Muscle in the bathroom. 30 minutes after I left for the gym I get a text from my wife asking if I was throwing up in the bathroom this morning because it stunk lol
 
ELROCK said:
I workout before work this morning. I woke up and showered then applied beta version Top Muscle in the bathroom. 30 minutes after I left for the gym I get a text from my wife asking if I was throwing up in the bathroom this morning because it stunk lol
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A cross between urine and vomit? So essentially one can expect to consistently smell like they were up all night hitting the clubs. Every night!
 
spiderduncan said:
That is great to hear! Did you try the first version?

I worked out before, prior to my son's football game and one of the mother's (who follows me along the sidelines) kept remarking that kept smelling urine. After the game, my wife said, "I think she was smelling the topical that you were wearing!" lol.
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I haven’t tried the first version. Ngl tho I don’t think I missed out on much haha
 
ELROCK said:
With a hint of wet dog essence
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So basically it’s like being desperate to wipe off your dog who was caught in a thundershower before letting him in the car, and the only thing you can find is your pair of tighty whities that you forgot you threw in the back of your trunk after going for a 5 mile jog in the middle of July the prior week. Then once you catch a whiff of the smell, you spontaneously vomit and find yourself having to use the same pair of tighty whities to clean yourself off?
 
So just for you all that are reading and, you know, NOT wanting to buy (thanks for that)....the scent has been fixed.
 
The updated Top Muscle scent is 100% better! It is very light with a hint of vanilla. No more spoiled milk, wet dog, urine and vomit combo like the beta version.
 
ELROCK said:
The updated Top Muscle scent is 100% better! It is very light with a hint of vanilla. No more spoiled milk, wet dog, urine and vomit combo like the beta version.
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what about the result? Do you get the joint paint like a normal ARA run?
 
alvin1 said:
what about the result? Do you get the joint paint like a normal ARA run?
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The joint pain can happen if I rub it in too close to a joint. It is meant to be rubbed in to the muscle belly and not over the joints. However, if I use too much or too many days in a row it can bring on some joint pain. Not nearly as bad as oral ARA though.

Intense pumps- they come on after just 1 set of a muscle group. The pumps are long lasting. I no longer use pump products for the gym.

Muscle growth- I have noticed a bit of growth in my arms, traps and calves. Nothing too crazy, but nonetheless improvements.

Increase DOMS- more then usual DOMS the day after the workout.

Endurance- no noticeable increased endurance.

Strength- not significant.

This is with only doing the pre-workout application.
 
I just had my first workout with what I assume is the newest version. This batch is significantly better than the previous version I used and, at the time, I considered it my favorite supplement to date.

The pump wasn't as intense as previous bottles but I don't smell like a wet dog or am so flush that I look like I'm having an allergic reaction either.
 
So far I’m doing okay . Nothing crazy . Weight hasn’t changed and strength hasn’t changed but Lets see after bottle one and go to my second bottle .
 
Is the Top Muscle on the DPS Nutrition site the newest good smelling vanilla version? I see that it’s sold out on the Evomuse site, so was going to order through DPS but wanted to make sue thats the most current version. (If anyone here knows!)
 
NudgeThePudge said:
Is the Top Muscle on the DPS Nutrition site the newest good smelling vanilla version? I see that it’s sold out on the Evomuse site, so was going to order through DPS but wanted to make sue thats the most current version. (If anyone here knows!)
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It is the new one, but OOS was a mistake. I have some stock.
 
ELROCK said:
The joint pain can happen if I rub it in too close to a joint. It is meant to be rubbed in to the muscle belly and not over the joints. However, if I use too much or too many days in a row it can bring on some joint pain. Not nearly as bad as oral ARA though.

Intense pumps- they come on after just 1 set of a muscle group. The pumps are long lasting. I no longer use pump products for the gym.

Muscle growth- I have noticed a bit of growth in my arms, traps and calves. Nothing too crazy, but nonetheless improvements.

Increase DOMS- more then usual DOMS the day after the workout.

Endurance- no noticeable increased endurance.

Strength- not significant.

This is with only doing the pre-workout application.
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How long have you been using it for?
 
I Am on my second bottle of and can’t tell any difference . I’m consuming the same 4-5k of calories that I always do.
 
BigGame84 said:
Not surprised. IMO, I think this product has way too many ingredients and I don’t think ARA is all it’s talked up to be. For building muscle, I think BMP is the better product.. when it’s available.
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For me it’s a better muscle builder then BMP. Plus the pump on it is instant and better then most of the pump products on the market.
 
Did anyone here got a skin reaction after application? I have applied twice on my shoulders and arms and both times I got extremely red skin, burning sensation and a bit of itching (I have the old version, stinky one). Thanks!
 
luckuyguy said:
Did anyone here got a skin reaction after application? I have applied twice on my shoulders and arms and both times I got extremely red skin, burning sensation and a bit of itching (I have the old version, stinky one). Thanks!
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The beta version did that to me at the beginning. Then, it stopped after using it for awhile.

The new version doesn’t do that at all.
 
What is the deal with taking fish oil/anti inflammatory supps because of the Arachidonic Acid? Best to take them as far away as possible from top muscle?
 
mavup said:
What is the deal with taking fish oil/anti inflammatory supps because of the Arachidonic Acid? Best to take them as far away as possible from top muscle?
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Not as crucial as when taking ArA orally.
 
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