EvoMuse Presents: TopMuscle™ (writeup)

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Has anyone seen Dsade recently?
I placed an order yesterday but I’m concerned that it’ll be ages before they sent it out and I’m really keen to receive it before Christmas
Update.
They replied to the message I dropped Evomuse on Facebook two/three days later and my package is on its way.
I’m very happy, thank you guys!
 
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Update.
They replied to the message I dropped Evomuse on Facebook two/three days later and my package is on its way.
I’m very happy, thank you guys!
I handed it to her personally, much to the consternation of the 40 people in line. Sorry for the delay, but the product improvement is worth it.
 

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I handed it to her personally, much to the consternation of the 40 people in line. Sorry for the delay, but the product improvement is worth it.
This pisses me off - I sent an email to [email protected] re: order 6645 and many follow ups and have not received any response. I am a really good customer of yours. Please respond.
 
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I handed it to her personally, much to the consternation of the 40 people in line. Sorry for the delay, but the product improvement is worth it.
I appreciate it my man. Can’t wait to capitalise on those festive calories ��
 

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I just received my upgraded TopMuscle today and I gotta say this is a massive improvement on the smell front. It has kind of a citrus vanilla sort of undertone to it. I had my wife give it a sniff test and she said it was actually quite pleasant smelling. I don't know if I expect a massive improvement in effectiveness as the beta product I'm using is already highly effective.
I can back this statement. major improvements on smell and less flushing as matt alluded too earlier. great product.
 
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I just received my upgraded TopMuscle today and I gotta say this is a massive improvement on the smell front. It has kind of a citrus vanilla sort of undertone to it. I had my wife give it a sniff test and she said it was actually quite pleasant smelling. I don't know if I expect a massive improvement in effectiveness as the beta product I'm using is already highly effective.
Well damn now I have to order more the new version. The smell really started to bother me. I was constantly concerned if others were smelling it on me. It prevented me from using it everyday.
 

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I ripped off an upper body push workout last night, and as with the original betas I had a great pump afterwards from the updated formula. I can't state enough how much better the scent is on this product, it's a little reminiscent of cologne in a way, more of a manly scent in my eyes than the vanilla would imply. When I catch a whiff of the product I think "damn that smells good" instead of "I might be able to convince myself I kind of like this smell". As noted by ironkill there is less flushing effect from this formula. The original didn't bother me, I just experienced a little redness and warmth at the area of application, no itching as some users suffered from.

I have 3.5 bottles of the original unlabelled beta formula left, I'll likely use those exclusively for my home gym workouts. For the odd time I lift away from home, as well as follow up applications when I am away from home I'll use the new reformulated product.

Oddly enough I have next to no DOMS today, I'll see if I have any delayed DOMS tomorrow.
 
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I respect your attitude Matt

Not all investors are like that tho.
An investor who truly understands the industry will know better than to start skimping on the formula to increase margins in this day and age

If you guys could keep your products in stock 80+% of the time then your yearly revenue would probably increase substantially (I’m not sure exactly how much of the time your products are usually out of stock).
Invest some money in an initially aggressive advertising campaign to introduce more people to Evomuse and your regular consumer base would probably get substantially bigger too. This too would increase your yearly revenue and the increase in production volume needed to satiate the demand may also enable you to acquire ingredients for less, thus reducing per units costs, which would naturally slightly increase your margins and increase revenue.
If those two things are done then your financial position would become improve by a lot, helping to pay off the initial investment.

I actually happen to own a company that helps SMEs (small and medium sized companies) grow and/or start doing business abroad. We also offer incubation services.
We could have a look at your company if you’d like and see if we can help.
Drop me a PM anytime man
Oh and regardless of my offer, I’d really consider bringing in an extra worker for Evomuse, even just part-time. Someone to help you get orders processed, packed and sent off, to help you get products mixed and bottled up, and to help you get through your emails.
I know how difficult it can be to stay on top of your emails if you’re a busy man which is why I’m getting an assistant myself, and I’m 22 and a part-time student lol.
If your customers run out of your products then what they aren’t doing is consuming your products, which means lost revenue for you. If they spend 3 months a year on average without certain items, then you’re both losing out on 3 months’ worth of opportunity. You lose out on 3 months’ worth of consumption (per customer) and they lose out on 3 months’ worth of additional progress (gains, cuts, intangibles, etc).

The increase in yearly revenue will probably more than pay for the new temp’s salary

All of this will help to unlock Evomuse’ vast potential
 
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Forgive me as I know this is going to sound silly--but I've only used a couple topicals and I applied them to the same place every time. The directions say to apply to "each working muscle group" and users here have mentioned calves..do I apply it to the split I'm doing (ie, tri's//chest, back//bi's). Or can I always apply it to the chest/shoulder/trap area?
 

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Forgive me as I know this is going to sound silly--but I've only used a couple topicals and I applied them to the same place every time. The directions say to apply to "each working muscle group" and users here have mentioned calves..do I apply it to the split I'm doing (ie, tri's//chest, back//bi's). Or can I always apply it to the chest/shoulder/trap area?
In the case of top muscle only...you need to apply it to the muscle area being worked (pre-workout) and then again about 12 hours later. I personally use it only for one lagging area...so a bottle lasts me a while.
 
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Interesting. Thank you for the quick response!

My bottle is on the way from DPS!
 
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Well then I guess you have to

1. Evaluate the information in the writeup
2. Take into account my reputation as a researcher and formulater
3. Take into account the reputation of the people posting

And either take a chance, or you can either not purchase or wait a few more months for more feedback.

I'm not really sure what more you're asking for, honestly
Ordering two bottles.
 
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Let’s see how this goes. I will be doing my normal protein intake and not change my calories up. The only thing I will do is add the top muscle cream to my program and let’s see if I put in some size over the next two bottles .
 

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How does everyone apply it for back day? Lol
I just put the product on parts I can reach. I apply to traps, sides of lats, rear of shoulders, biceps and forearms since those are all heavily worked during my back workout.
 
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Can’t we just rub it on our abs or do we need to rub it on the muscle we workout ?
 

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Can’t we just rub it on our abs or do we need to rub it on the muscle we workout ?
Apply it to the muscle being worked and avoid joints. Apply 15-30 pre-workout and about 12 hours later. I use it sparingly just for a lagging body part (2 workouts a week).
 

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Has anyone else noticed differences in effects based on which bodypart(s) on which they’re using Top Muscle? For me, I was using on calves and upper arms. My arms are a strong group for me, but I always want them bigger, naturally. Calves have been a lifelong struggle for me. My calves blew up on Top Muscle, but it made almost no difference in my arms.
 
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Has anyone else noticed differences in effects based on which bodypart(s) on which they’re using Top Muscle? For me, I was using on calves and upper arms. My arms are a strong group for me, but I always want them bigger, naturally. Calves have been a lifelong struggle for me. My calves blew up on Top Muscle, but it made almost no difference in my arms.
I suspect its due to lower BF percentage and thin skin in your calves.
 
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So you guys are seeing significant growth using this product? It sounds interesting, in just worried I'll order and be let down if it shows no effects. Planning on grabbing defuse soon because I been craving chinese buffet so this might get added if it's worth it.
 

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Has anyone else noticed differences in effects based on which bodypart(s) on which they’re using Top Muscle? For me, I was using on calves and upper arms. My arms are a strong group for me, but I always want them bigger, naturally. Calves have been a lifelong struggle for me. My calves blew up on Top Muscle, but it made almost no difference in my arms.
Interesting. I am only using it on one body part.
Possibly you were using higher or lower reps in one of these areas?
It would be cool to find out if certain body parts react more (maybe absorption and or the make up of the body part fast slow twitch muscle for example) or if its the stimulation through working having more of an effect?
 

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So you guys are seeing significant growth using this product? It sounds interesting, in just worried I'll order and be let down if it shows no effects. Planning on grabbing defuse soon because I been craving chinese buffet so this might get added if it's worth it.
I think it works super well when focusing on a particular body part. Mass seems to come on easily and especially under high reps. I am using it for chest and shoulders only so one bottle really lasts.
 
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I think it works super well when focusing on a particular body part. Mass seems to come on easily and especially under high reps. I am using it for chest and shoulders only so one bottle really lasts.
Hmm, might have to grab some sounds ideal for calves.
 

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Sorry if it’s been said already but is it a product that needs to be used everyday to be effective or can it be used twice a week for the body part your wanting to bring up?
 

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I think it works super well when focusing on a particular body part. Mass seems to come on easily and especially under high reps. I am using it for chest and shoulders only so one bottle really lasts.
Christ I just posted a question and this is the answer, sorry guys missed this somehow.
 
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Day one Put one pump for a total of 4 pumps both chest and biceps .
 

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Interesting. I am only using it on one body part.
Possibly you were using higher or lower reps in one of these areas?
It would be cool to find out if certain body parts react more (maybe absorption and or the make up of the body part fast slow twitch muscle for example) or if its the stimulation through working having more of an effect?
Don’t think it’s rep ranges. I do a good variety with every body part. Muscle fiber types is an interesting thought. I was just wondering mostly about more responsive muscle groups vs. less responsive ones. Like my body is able to activate all the anabolic signals in my arms well enough, but for whatever reason struggles with the calves, so Top Muscle made a much greater impact there. Idk, just curious if I’m the only one.
 
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Should I wear a glove when applying it? It’s brown and smells like ass.
 

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Day one Put one pump for a total of 4 pumps both chest and biceps .
You are over applying, you can use 1 pump for matching bodyparts. IE 1 pump covers both pecs, another pump covers biceps, etc.
 

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Should I wear a glove when applying it? It’s brown and smells like ass.
I use nitrile gloves when applying. I carefully remove the gloves so that I can use them multiple times.
 
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I have the newest one.
Unfortunately I've noticed there is a variance in scent with the reformulated product from bottle to bottle, just as was the case with the original. The first bottle of new product I tested out smells quite nice, kinda like a vanilla musk cologne smell, not bad at all. The second bottle I opened up is pretty bad, I think of it as vanilla scented hobo. It's quite unpleasant, and possibly worse than the original product smell.
 
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Unfortunately I've noticed there is a variance in scent with the reformulated product from bottle to bottle, just as was the case with the original. The first bottle of new product I tested out smells quite nice, kinda like a vanilla musk cologne smell, not bad at all. The second bottle I opened up is pretty bad, I think of it as vanilla scented hobo. It's quite unpleasant, and possibly worse than the original product smell.
I noticed the same thing with my 3 beta bottles. All 3 different smells and shades of brown. If things like that are so inconsistent, I can only presume the amount of active ingredients in each bottle are a crapshoot as well. I’m just glad I moved on from the product and no longer smell like I have sour milk poured over me every workout.
 

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I noticed the same thing with my 3 beta bottles. All 3 different smells and shades of brown. If things like that are so inconsistent, I can only presume the amount of active ingredients in each bottle are a crapshoot as well. I’m just glad I moved on from the product and no longer smell like I have sour milk poured over me every workout.
I can't say I've noticed a difference in effectiveness from bottle to bottle, it just seems to be the aroma that varies.
 
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My Gym is not happy with my smell :(
 
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Should we rub it on twice a day ?
 
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I work out around 1 but go to bed at around 10 that’s cutting it. I will do it just before bed .
 
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I work out around 1 but go to bed at around 10 that’s cutting it. I will do it just before bed .
I just did it pre and post workout after some time bc my bed sheets and pillow cases started to become stained brown and have an odor to them. My post-workout application was about 1-2 hours before I’d shower. This way I went to bed clean with none of that residue on me.
 
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I just did it pre and post workout after some time bc my bed sheets and pillow cases started to become stained brown and have an odor to them. My post-workout application was about 1-2 hours before I’d shower. This way I went to bed clean with none of that residue on me.
It should all absorb correct?
 
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It should all absorb correct?
It’s been said on here that it should be applied at least an hour before showering, so that’s what I stuck to. I don’t know the logistics of how much is actually absorbed based on how long one waits, or if it even matters all that much.
 

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I work out around 1 but go to bed at around 10 that’s cutting it. I will do it just before bed .
You could apply the following morning if you prefer. Shouldn’t affect results too much, I wouldn’t think.
 
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Today was day 3 leg day. Felt very strong .
 

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You could apply the following morning if you prefer. Shouldn’t affect results too much, I wouldn’t think.
I've found both ways works fine. I've applied 8-10 hours after a workout in the evening, as well as 16-20 hours later the following morning and seen good results both ways.
 
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Has anybody used it only pre workout? if so any feedback on results?
 

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