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Strong math ITT. Everything listed so far adds up to 18.7 grams...the serving size is 25 grams...

That leaves 6.3 grams...you peeps giving 1-2 gram ingredients think there are 4 + grams of flavoring, coloring, and ?
 
LLN said:
Strong math ITT. Everything listed so far adds up to 18.7 grams...the serving size is 25 grams...

That leaves 6.3 grams...you peeps giving 1-2 gram ingredients think there are 4 + grams of flavoring, coloring, and ?
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The ingredients are in descending order. That would appear that the missing one is 2 grams or less.
 
LLN said:
Strong math ITT. Everything listed so far adds up to 18.7 grams...the serving size is 25 grams...

That leaves 6.3 grams...you peeps giving 1-2 gram ingredients think there are 4 + grams of flavoring, coloring, and ?
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4+ grams of color flavor and magic, of course..
 
2 grams L-Citrulline and 4 grams straight table salt & pepper. How's THAT for innovation??? Would buy ASAP.
 
Considering the front of the label states 3g Creatine and only 2 grams listed so far on the label, I can only assume its 1g of Creatine Mono Or Anhydrous......unless im missing something
 
Adizzle1 said:
Considering the front of the label states 3g Creatine and only 2 grams listed so far on the label, I can only assume its 1g of Creatine Mono Or Anhydrous
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So 5 grams of filler? Man it better taste like straight MAGIC then.
 
AntM1564 said:
I may have missed this, but is there a specific reason for a 4:1:1 ratio on the aminos?
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LLN said:
Strong math ITT. Everything listed so far adds up to 18.7 grams...the serving size is 25 grams...

That leaves 6.3 grams...you peeps giving 1-2 gram ingredients think there are 4 + grams of flavoring, coloring, and ?
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Adizzle1 said:
Considering the front of the label states 3g Creatine and only 2 grams listed so far on the label, I can only assume its 1g of Creatine Mono Or Anhydrous......unless im missing something
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LLN said:
inb4 5 grams of sugar that are unaccounted for.
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This label is actually slightly off, the finished product is 24g total weight/scoop, not 25g like shown.

The total actives per scoop come out to be: 19,700mg, so that leaves us with 4.3g for flavoring, sweetners, coloring, and excipients.

With a single scoop weighing so much(~3-4x the amount of actives per scoop when compares to the average pre-wo or flavored product), 4.3g is pretty dang reasonable...especially with our amazing flavoring systems.

Dat Rainbow Sherbet....hngggggggg
 
for some perspective, lets compare the "extras" to a forum favorite, Conqu3r Unleashed:

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Conqu3r Unleashed: 14g total per scoop, with 11.31g active per scoop, leaving you with 2.69g of "extra" = 19.2% "extra"

Finish Line: 24g total per scoop, with 19.7g active per scoop, leaving you with 4.3g of "extra" = 17.9% "extra"



so at the end of the day, a smaller percentage of Finish Line is "extra" when compared to a product like Conqu3r Unleashed.
 
VaughnTrue said:
This label is actually slightly off, the finished product is 24g total weight/scoop, not 25g like shown.

The total actives per scoop come out to be: 19,700mg, so that leaves us with 4.3g for flavoring, sweetners, coloring, and excipients.

With a single scoop weighing so much(~3-4x the amount of actives per scoop when compares to the average pre-wo or flavored product), 4.3g is pretty dang reasonable...especially with our amazing flavoring systems.

Dat Rainbow Sherbet....hngggggggg
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I don't see the issue with having a few grams of non-actives, assuming that those few grams are accounted for and logical. Depending on the flavor/color/sweeteners used, a few grams may be needed, especially if you're dealing with particularly bitter and/or bad tasting ingredients. As long as the product is properly dosed, does it really matter?
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I don't see the issue with having a few grams of non-actives, assuming that those few grams are accounted for and logical. Depending on the flavor/color/sweeteners used, a few grams may be needed, especially if you're dealing with particularly bitter and/or bad tasting ingredients. As long as the product is properly dosed, does it really matter?
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No...but it's a new product, you gotta find some fault in it!

LOL it does look like a lot for a single scoop, but that's simply because each scoop is so dang heavy. Like I pointed out above, it actually has less non-actives than the average flavored product out there.
 
That rainbow sherbet flavor is awesome.. I think the products are solid my only complaint would be wishing the coloring wasn't soo heavy. The powders of Hemavol and max out just look very artificial to me. Taste and work great but the color is a turn off imo.. But I'm also not 99% of their customer base so I can't expect things to change do to my opinion
 
AntM1564 said:
I may have missed this, but is there a specific reason for a 4:1:1 ratio on the aminos?
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We believe that the 4:1:1 ratio offers the most benefit as it allows for enough Leucine to truly impact mTOR, while still providing enough of the other 2 BCAAs to be effective. 4:1:1 is the highest BCAA ratio that we like to utilize, as going beyond that seems to have less benefit for the user while still increasing price.
 
Mkgain1 said:
That rainbow sherbet flavor is awesome.. I think the products are solid my only complaint would be wishing the coloring wasn't soo heavy. The powders of Hemavol and max out just look very artificial to me. Taste and work great but the color is a turn off imo.. But I'm also not 99% of their customer base so I can't expect things to change do to my opinion
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I hear you loud and clear. Unfortunately, we have gotten massive complaints in the past when our coloring wasn't "bright" enough.

For example, the lemon drop max out used very little coloring, and as a result the rhodiola rosea gave it a yellow/brown final coloring when mixed. People complained about the coloring and sales were low. When we upped the yellow coloring, sales shot through the roof. Literally not a single other change.

The Solution said:
Rainbow Sherbert you should make Compete in that flavor.
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available in both 30 and 50 serving tubs!
 
VaughnTrue said:
No...but it's a new product, you gotta find some fault in it!
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No interest to bash, only transparency boss. That's a luxury of AM over bb.com.

I actually like how the product is shaping up, but to clarify then if there were a line which said carbs, how many grams would we find on it?
 
LLN said:
No interest to bash, only transparency boss. That's a luxury of AM over bb.com.

I actually like how the product is shaping up, but to clarify then if there were a line which said carbs, how many grams would we find on it?
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I didn't mean anyone was trying to bash, I was just playing along. I love that people here on AM are critical of products...you should be!


There are no countable carbohydrates within this product. The "other ingredients" lists Maltodextrin, but as it is included at less than 500mg(.5g) per scoop, it cannot be counted as containing carbohydrates/calories per FDA nutrition guidelines. If it were included at 501mg+, we would be required to list it as 1g carbs, providing 4 calories.
 
Mkgain1 said:
That rainbow sherbet flavor is awesome.. I think the products are solid my only complaint would be wishing the coloring wasn't soo heavy. The powders of Hemavol and max out just look very artificial to me. Taste and work great but the color is a turn off imo.. But I'm also not 99% of their customer base so I can't expect things to change do to my opinion
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Haha then stay away from Gold Star Nutrition Triple X...I have the blue raspberry and it basically stains my shaker and mouth blue. Coloring is more intense than the product!
 
VaughnTrue said:
I hear you loud and clear. Unfortunately, we have gotten massive complaints in the past when our coloring wasn't "bright" enough.

For example, the lemon drop max out used very little coloring, and as a result the rhodiola rosea gave it a yellow/brown final coloring when mixed. People complained about the coloring and sales were low. When we upped the yellow coloring, sales shot through the roof. Literally not a single other change.



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Yeah I mean I know you guys gotta do what's best for the company as a whole, a lot of people do like more color, as long as the product quality itself isn't affected I'll suck it up and still use the products you gotta appeal to the masses
 
Mkgain1 said:
Yeah I mean I know you guys gotta do what's best for the company as a whole, a lot of people do like more color, as long as the product quality itself isn't affected I'll suck it up and still use the products you gotta appeal to the masses
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yup, coloring has no effect on how the product behaves/works for a user. You're good to go.
 
BRUstrong said:
Haha then stay away from Gold Star Nutrition Triple X...I have the blue raspberry and it basically stains my shaker and mouth blue. Coloring is more intense than the product!
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That seems awful I feel for you haha that's why I enjoy man sports, good products, great flavors, zero color to the powder. To me it almost portrays high quality with a colorless powder that tastes and works soo well
 
Mkgain1 said:
That seems awful I feel for you haha that's why I enjoy man sports, good products, great flavors, zero color to the powder. To me it almost portrays high quality with a colorless powder that tastes and works soo well
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all the products on the market would behave identically if they didn't include the coloring agents. MAN sports raws/formulas are no different than any of the others on the market, they just leave out the dyes. For what it's worth, I guess they hit their target market very effectively it seems.
 
VaughnTrue said:
all the products on the market would behave identically if they didn't include the coloring agents. MAN sports raws/formulas are no different than any of the others on the market, they just leave out the dyes. For what it's worth, I guess they hit their target market very effectively it seems.
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Well I mean are there products I believe work better than man sports products? Definitely, I actually like a couple Iforce products better than man products head to head, but I just find its appealing without the dyes. If your product is a better formula ultimately that's what I'm going to choose, that's realistically what matters.
 
Mkgain1 said:
Well I mean are there products I believe work better than man sports products? Definitely, I actually like a couple Iforce products better than man products head to head, but I just find its appealing without the dyes. If your product is a better formula ultimately that's what I'm going to choose, that's realistically what matters.
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for sure. If i had my choice, i'd use a product that had my favorite actives + natural flavoring and no artificial dyes/flavoring...but they don't taste/look as good, so they don't sell as well unfortunately
 
VaughnTrue said:
for sure. If i had my choice, i'd use a product that had my favorite actives + natural flavoring and no artificial dyes/flavoring...but they don't taste/look as good, so they don't sell as well unfortunately
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Yeah but the og hemavol though....

I have also logged og dexaprine and conquer (iforce had the OG conquer ) also used iforce protean

Artifical dyes or not...they beat the OG GameDay. That shiz was nasty (in my opinion )
Man sports just seems to be popular atm because I believe marc lobliner. Everything he touches blows up.
 
VaughnTrue said:
for sure. If i had my choice, i'd use a product that had my favorite actives + natural flavoring and no artificial dyes/flavoring...but they don't taste/look as good, so they don't sell as well unfortunately
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Of course, and if what you make doesn't sell.. You no longer have a job. So the bigger picture is more important from the business standpoint. It's because your damn flavors sound so good if they don't taste that way people will be pissed lol
 
pyrobatt said:
Yeah but the og hemavol though....

I have also logged og dexaprine and conquer (iforce had the OG conquer ) also used iforce protean

Artifical dyes or not...they beat the OG GameDay. That shiz was nasty (in my opinion )
Man sports just seems to be popular atm because I believe marc lobliner. Everything he touches blows up.
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I think they've become such a hot company at this point because of the candy flavors imo, who isn't going to be interested enough in that to try it? But also some of the products are actually really solid products imo so that's gotta stand for something as well
 
dave39 said:
I tried their Chocolate Chocolate Chip and was really dissapointed. Just tasted like an average chocolate protein powder.
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That's just because it's not loaded with fillers and flavors and all that it's just a quality protein with an affordable price tag
 
VaughnTrue said:
For example, the lemon drop max out used very little coloring, and as a result the rhodiola rosea gave it a yellow/brown final coloring when mixed. People complained about the coloring and sales were low. When we upped the yellow coloring, sales shot through the roof. Literally not a single other change.



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**** people are stupid !!
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VaughnTrue said:
yea...it's showing up fine for me. It's for Finish Line, a new IFN product
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Thanks Vaughn. Finish Line sounds like a good name for a "post" workout supplement. "Starting Line" would've been better for a pre-workout haha, especially amongst young athletes/team sports.
 
dave39 said:
Thanks Vaughn. Finish Line sounds like a good name for a "post" workout supplement. "Starting Line" would've been better for a pre-workout haha, especially amongst young athletes/team sports.
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yup, Finish Line is our first entry into the post workout market. Max Out and Hemavo2 Max are our pre-workouts
 
booneman77 said:
Reviews for joint force xt are just coming in as its brand new. I know thebigt is putting it to the test as we speak and so far (just a few days in) may be seeing results already. Should be great stuff but as far as reviews available they're just starting to come in
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I just started taking it myself and feel like I'm getting some inflammation relief already. Only a few days in, can't wait until about the 10 day mark :)
 
Mkgain1 said:
Any idea of more new ifn products on the horizon for 2016?
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we're looking to release some more protein flavors on top of our newest releases Red Velvet Cake and Blueberry Muffin, bring back Dymethazine, Protodrol, and Bold200(with Hi-Tech patented compounds + Cyclosome technology), and more :) 2016 gonna be a big year for us!
 
VaughnTrue said:
we're looking to release some more protein flavors on top of our newest releases Red Velvet Cake and Blueberry Muffin, bring back Dymethazine, Protodrol, and Bold200(with Hi-Tech patented compounds + Cyclosome technology), and more :) 2016 gonna be a big year for us!
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Never got to try Dymethazine. Interesting!
 
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