Guest viewing is limited

Tell me about Cistamax

aceroni said:
Has anyone figured out how to dose these? I have found ideas but no clear cut answers.
Click to expand...

They have explained it multiple times.

Cista:
4 pre workout , off days split with meals

Ament:
Pre workout > fasted > 30 mins before meal as gda

For me that is 1 cap on waking, another 2 caps added to pre workout in afternoon
 
Driven2lift said:
They have explained it multiple times.

Cista:
4 pre workout , off days split with meals

Ament:
Pre workout > fasted > 30 mins before meal as gda

For me that is 1 cap on waking, another 2 caps added to pre workout in afternoon
Click to expand...

Thanks driven.
 
PES reps, would running a 8 week cycle of this while reverse dieting be worth it? Or should i wait till i am in a cal surplus?
 
NoAddedHmones said:
PES reps, would running a 8 week cycle of this while reverse dieting be worth it? Or should i wait till i am in a cal surplus?
Click to expand...

I'd run it while reversing. I'm personally noticing some pretty intense thermogenesis with it. Curious if any of the new users will report a marked rise in body heat about 30 min post consumption
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I'd run it while reversing. I'm personally noticing some pretty intense thermogenesis with it. Curious if any of the new users will report a marked rise in body heat about 30 min post consumption
Click to expand...

Sounds good, will start tomorrow and update you in a few days whether i experience that effect. Im thinking of adding anabeta in at week 4 once cals are closer to maintainence, should be a fun cycle.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I'd run it while reversing. I'm personally noticing some pretty intense thermogenesis with it. Curious if any of the new users will report a marked rise in body heat about 30 min post consumption
Click to expand...

i been trying to figure out what has been making me sweat balls during my workout the last few weeks. BTW the boners and libido on this stack rocks
 
I started cistamax two days ago. Nothing much to report yet. I have been looking a little leaner and Fuller but I believe that's from adjusting my diet because I don't think you'd notice anything in two days.

Edit. Now that I think about it I just realized I've been really warm, more warm than usual. Might be the cistamax
 
NoAddedHmones said:
what effects have both of you guys noticed so far, besides the sweating?
Click to expand...
Well I've run it long enough to know how I respond. The body heat thing was present the whole time but I guess I only really paid attention to it recently.The main things I notice are a fuller, more vascular look, improved breathing and cardiovascular performance (particularly noticeable since I have asthma), and a better sense of well-being
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Well I've run it long enough to know how I respond. The body heat thing was present the whole time but I guess I only really paid attention to it recently.The main things I notice are a fuller, more vascular look, improved breathing and cardiovascular performance (particularly noticeable since I have asthma), and a better sense of well-being
Click to expand...

Any impact on libido?
 
so, when you say Cistamax can act as an agonist to the androgen receptor, does that mean it "activates" it or whatever? The same way a natural androgen would, such as testosterone? So this is ALMOST akin to a SARM in some aspect?
 
BurghHardcore said:
so, when you say Cistamax can act as an agonist to the androgen receptor, does that mean it "activates" it or whatever? The same way a natural androgen would, such as testosterone? So this is ALMOST akin to a SARM in some aspect?
Click to expand...
In theory, yes. I personally noticed no change in libido...more in terms of body composition and performance
 
mr.cooper69 said:
In theory, yes. I personally noticed no change in libido...more in terms of body composition and performance
Click to expand...


Ok, that's very cool. I'm not worried about libido, any bump there might just drive me to insanity. Body comp, strength, etc are more the effects I'm looking for. So an obvious choice to stack with this would be LCLT?
 
well i have 5 bottles of this. im using it right now with MyoSynergy liking it allot. i thought the heat feeling was from myo, must be this lol since others have reported it. i have noticed im allot more aggressive, been snapping at family out of the blue, morning fullness is great for being on low carbs and mood is great to.
 
Auslifter said:
well i have 5 bottles of this. im using it right now with MyoSynergy liking it allot. i thought the heat feeling was from myo, must be this lol since others have reported it. i have noticed im allot more aggressive, been snapping at family out of the blue, morning fullness is great for being on low carbs and mood is great to.
Click to expand...


Huh?
 
Lmao, this guy is an absolute joke when it comes to the amount of supplements he takes and the claims he is making. Going by his post history he is currently on:

Burn 24 Forskolin 95 Komodo Visceral Response Bulk Yohimbe ALCAR AnaBeta Elite Amentomaxx Norcodrene, cistamax, Myosynergy, Splyce and probably a whole range of other ****.

but hey, Cistamax is making me snap at my family LOLOLOLOLOL.

soz for targeting you Auslifter, but you are an annoying kent.
 
T-Bone said:
Huh?
Click to expand...
*most of the day, but its like when something goes wrong i.e argument or waiting on something i feel irritable for no reason. and in gym aggression is there like this fat guy was hogging the squat rack to do shrugs for like 20 mins, kept giving him dirty stares lol
NoAddedHmones said:
Lmao, this guy is an absolute joke when it comes to the amount of supplements he takes and the claims he is making. Going by his post history he is currently on:Burn 24 Forskolin 95 Komodo Visceral Response Bulk Yohimbe ALCAR AnaBeta Elite Amentomaxx Norcodrene, cistamax, Myosynergy, Splyce and probably a whole range of other ****.but hey, Cistamax is making me snap at my family LOLOLOLOLOL.soz for targeting you Auslifter, but you are an annoying kent.
Click to expand...
why you mad pght i don't take all of them every fkn day m7 just because i have a fuk load of chit on hand dosen't mean im running them all. pls go
 
Big words keyboard warrior, look at your post history...
half the sh*t you take doesnt provide accute effects anyways so that further shows how full of sh*t you are.
 
half the **** i take? i try allot of things seems like your upset for stating my opinion on my experiences using "x" supplement now your assuming im taking it alongside multiple others, just because i have posted i use them before? your a ****ing retard mate stay mad lol im not on centerlink time so i try allot of **** get over it bud
 
Auslifter said:
half the **** i take? i try allot of things seems like your upset for stating my opinion on my experiences using "x" supplement now your assuming im taking it alongside multiple others, just because i have posted i use them before? your a ****ing retard mate stay mad lol im not on centerlink time so i try allot of **** get over it bud
Click to expand...

He's snapping. Must be the cistamax
 
EBF Inc said:
I like Cistanche. I run it w butea
Click to expand...

Out of curiosity, if these two herbs have the same MOA what's the point in stacking them? It's not like both herbs would work to stimulate the androgen receptor more effectively then just one... or do they?
 
Any positives or negatives to running it with exogenous androgens? The not natural kind.
 
So Coop, I'm just going to assume that one wouldn't need any type of AI while running this? Since actual hormone levels aren't rising at all, there should be nothing to aromatize, right? Though one might find adding an AI useful or intriguing, its not necessarily recommended right?
 
BurghHardcore said:
So Coop, I'm just going to assume that one wouldn't need any type of AI while running this? Since actual hormone levels aren't rising at all, there should be nothing to aromatize, right? Though one might find adding an AI useful or intriguing, its not necessarily recommended right?
Click to expand...

Correct.

No negatives in running this with any other natural or unnatural androgens...except we don't know if you'd need to PCT those.
 
Coop, second night in a row Ive had issues with waking up during the night since starting Cista, Have you noticed this effect or reckon its complete placebro. Also havent noticed any thermogenic effects when bolus dosing 4 caps at once.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Coop, second night in a row Ive had issues with waking up during the night since starting Cista, Have you noticed this effect or reckon its complete placebro. Also havent noticed any thermogenic effects when bolus dosing 4 caps at once.
Click to expand...

Of our testers, one (out of over 10) noticed this. It disappeared after a week and was a non-issue if dosed at least 2 hours before bed. Like you, the tester may have had sleep issues for other reasons altogether, but try spacing it from bed anyway to see if it helps.
 
Can I take all 4 pre workout or 2 pre workout and 2 post with food? training 7am
 
I've been using cistanche for a while and currently trialling cistamax. On the topic of cycling it, supposedly it's eaten as a food in some cultures, so I wouldn't have thought that cycling it is necessary, despite it being an extract rather than a whole plant in this case.
 
EBF_2356 said:
Can I take all 4 pre workout or 2 pre workout and 2 post with food? training 7am
Click to expand...

Hey man really sorry we missed this question when you first asked. The general recommendation has been just to have it around workouts, but when I use it I will be trying all 4 pre. :)

test112 said:
I've been using cistanche for a while and currently trialling cistamax. On the topic of cycling it, supposedly it's eaten as a food in some cultures, so I wouldn't have thought that cycling it is necessary, despite it being an extract rather than a whole plant in this case.
Click to expand...

How have you liked it so far? While it may be in food sources an extraction is probably different, hence the cycling (or would be the reasoning in my mind).
 
test112 said:
I've been using cistanche for a while and currently trialling cistamax. On the topic of cycling it, supposedly it's eaten as a food in some cultures, so I wouldn't have thought that cycling it is necessary, despite it being an extract rather than a whole plant in this case.
Click to expand...

Well that's why. When you extract for actives, you're getting far different levels than what you'd get in a meal.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Well that's why. When you extract for actives, you're getting far different levels than what you'd get in a meal.
Click to expand...

Most extracts I've seen are 10:1. Not sure what cistamax is but assuming it's largely full spectrum then a 2700mg recommended dose is equivalent to 27g of the stem - easily achievable if it's normally eaten as a bulk vegetable.

bolt10 said:
How have you liked it so far? While it may be in food sources an extraction is probably different, hence the cycling (or would be the reasoning in my mind).
Click to expand...

I started taking it at the same time I started using CDP-choline and a few others so it's obviously hard to be scientific here, but endurance and libido spiked when I started and the last few months I've been able to work extremely hard and not burn out. Take that with a grain of salt though.

The benefits sure look good on paper. It contains salidroside, one of the actives in rhodiola and apparently more responsible for the dopaminergic effects (rosavins being more serotonergic).

I also read some rat and mice studies on the website of a company that produces an extract that it increases test production and increases gene expression of 5ar in the liver. This was for the tubulosa variety but it's supposedly quite similar to the deserticola.
 
test112 said:
Most extracts I've seen are 10:1. Not sure what cistamax is but assuming it's largely full spectrum then a 2700mg recommended dose is equivalent to 27g of the stem - easily achievable if it's normally eaten as a bulk vegetable.I started taking it at the same time I started using CDP-choline and a few others so it's obviously hard to be scientific here, but endurance and libido spiked when I started and the last few months I've been able to work extremely hard and not burn out. Take that with a grain of salt though.The benefits sure look good on paper. It contains salidroside, one of the actives in rhodiola and apparently more responsible for the dopaminergic effects (rosavins being more serotonergic).I also read some rat and mice studies on the website of a company that produces an extract that it increases test production and increases gene expression of 5ar in the liver. This was for the tubulosa variety but it's supposedly quite similar to the deserticola.
Click to expand...
Ours isn't a ratio-based extract, as they are often unpredictable and of low QC. We extracted for phenylethanoids using the study protocol
 
I'm finishing up week 2 of AmentoMax and CistaMax out of a 8 week run. I've been on a norco/Alpha T2 run for awhile now with my other basic supps so I can attribute the new effects to Amento and Cista. (I moved around doses so I can be taking amento and cista preworkout instead of with norco/t2) Since dosing 2 caps amento preworkout I have added 10lbs to my Incline Dumbell press. From 80's to 90's. Similar gains on other lifts as well probably from increased endurance that I'm able to handle a little more weight. I also have experienced the body heat effect and can't stop sweating now during workout. I workout in the evening and it seems to stay until I go to bed. Last night I woke up as well from being too hot. This hasn't happened while on norco/t2 since I'm usually finished with those doses for the day by 2:00. The extra sweating and increased body heat sure is welcome though since I'm cutting.

Week 2 conclusion:

- Very noticeable strength/endurance increase

- Very noticeable body heat and sweating effect

- I haven't noticed any hormonal changes like libido, etc.

P.s I just now have noticed I misspelled my friggin username. Don't hold it against me!!
 
NueroJohn said:
I'm finishing up week 2 of AmentoMax and CistaMax out of a 8 week run. I've been on a norco/Alpha T2 run for awhile now with my other basic supps so I can attribute the new effects to Amento and Cista. (I moved around doses so I can be taking amento and cista preworkout instead of with norco/t2) Since dosing 2 caps amento preworkout I have added 10lbs to my Incline Dumbell press. From 80's to 90's. Similar gains on other lifts as well probably from increased endurance that I'm able to handle a little more weight. I also have experienced the body heat effect and can't stop sweating now during workout. I workout in the evening and it seems to stay until I go to bed. Last night I woke up as well from being too hot. This hasn't happened while on norco/t2 since I'm usually finished with those doses for the day by 2:00. The extra sweating and increased body heat sure is welcome though since I'm cutting.

Week 2 conclusion:

- Very noticeable strength/endurance increase

- Very noticeable body heat and sweating effect

- I haven't noticed any hormonal changes like libido, etc.

P.s I just now have noticed I misspelled my friggin username. Don't hold it against me!!
Click to expand...

Thanks for the update. Drop some more when you get through a bottle and then when you finish your 8 weeks as well if you don't mind.
 
NueroJohn said:
I'm finishing up week 2 of AmentoMax and CistaMax out of a 8 week run. I've been on a norco/Alpha T2 run for awhile now with my other basic supps so I can attribute the new effects to Amento and Cista. (I moved around doses so I can be taking amento and cista preworkout instead of with norco/t2) Since dosing 2 caps amento preworkout I have added 10lbs to my Incline Dumbell press. From 80's to 90's. Similar gains on other lifts as well probably from increased endurance that I'm able to handle a little more weight. I also have experienced the body heat effect and can't stop sweating now during workout. I workout in the evening and it seems to stay until I go to bed. Last night I woke up as well from being too hot. This hasn't happened while on norco/t2 since I'm usually finished with those doses for the day by 2:00. The extra sweating and increased body heat sure is welcome though since I'm cutting.Week 2 conclusion:- Very noticeable strength/endurance increase- Very noticeable body heat and sweating effect- I haven't noticed any hormonal changes like libido, etc.P.s I just now have noticed I misspelled my friggin username. Don't hold it against me!!
Click to expand...
These results are almost perfectly consistent with what I'm feeling. After about 2 weeks, the endurance effects really take off...I find myself breathing so easily and moving from set to set like it's nothing
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top