NEW PRODUCT!! FOLLIDRONE FAQ

[BigGame84]

Toron or FreeT ? Something that emphasizes "T".

 

[murk01]

Or BigBallBlasters ...thats also a good name

 

[bswanny]

Or BigBallBlasters ...thats also a good name

BigBallBlasters seems legit. I'd buy it on name alone.

 

[mtinsideout]

The tongkat Boron mix will be ready soon. I just need to decide on a name and make labels.

Tongkat is a great plant. Lots of good properties for lifters. Libido, mood, energy, test increase.
Boron is very good at binding up SHBG. My free test went up to 608ng/dl The reference range only goes to 150 so 608 is very high.

The combo is very solid.
Our tongkat is the best available and Ill stand by that.

Tongkat+Boron = Toboron-T... T for test of course

 

[toddmuelheim]

The tongkat Boron mix will be ready soon. I just need to decide on a name and make labels. Tongkat is a great plant. Lots of good properties for lifters. Libido, mood, energy, test increase. Boron is very good at binding up SHBG. My free test went up to 608ng/dl The reference range only goes to 150 so 608 is very high. The combo is very solid. Our tongkat is the best available and Ill stand by that.

Boron +
Tongkat Ali=....wait for it

Borat Ali

I might accept free product for payment.

 

[grocker]

Just got my tracking #. Should be here by friday or saturday. Will be starting it on Monday. I can't wait.

 

[burpees]

The tongkat Boron mix will be ready soon. I just need to decide on a name and make labels.

Tongkat is a great plant. Lots of good properties for lifters. Libido, mood, energy, test increase.
Boron is very good at binding up SHBG. My free test went up to 608ng/dl The reference range only goes to 150 so 608 is very high.

The combo is very solid.
Our tongkat is the best available and Ill stand by that.

are u nervous, brundel ?

 

[burpees]

The tongkat Boron mix will be ready soon. I just need to decide on a name and make labels.

Tongkat is a great plant. Lots of good properties for lifters. Libido, mood, energy, test increase.
Boron is very good at binding up SHBG. My free test went up to 608ng/dl The reference range only goes to 150 so 608 is very high.

The combo is very solid.
Our tongkat is the best available and Ill stand by that.

are u nervous, brundel ?

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

Can this be used for a cut?

 

[abformulations]

Can this be used for a cut?

Yes sir. It can be used for any situation.

 

[BigGame84]

My order has been shipped. I upgraded the shipping so I'm guessing I should have this by Friday at the latest.

 

[ma70]

My order just shipped too. I may or may not do an extensive log if I have time

 

[Mystere3]

Shipped!

 

[digitalducki]

How are they shipping already I thought it said eta 7-10 days? Not that id complain if I got it early lol

 

[ma70]

How are they shipping already I thought it said eta 7-10 days? Not that id complain if I got it early lol

I put an order today and NP just told me it shipped.

 

[BigGame84]

How are they shipping already I thought it said eta 7-10 days? Not that id complain if I got it early lol

Brundel said he overnighted about 50 units yesterday. I think this is why some orders are shipping.

 

[cbsharpe]

Got a shipment notice too!

 

[raekwonse]

Got mine too!! Would this stack with alphamine and burn24?

 

[digitalducki]

I ordered a bottle of XTRACT that said "on order" thinking I had time. Burn.

 

[ma70]

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/247627-cutting-stack-follidrone.html

That's my log when Follidrone comes in. Main purpose: Strength retention/gain while cutting, conditioning.

 

[BigGame84]

Mine comes Friday

 

[hrdgain81]

I ordered a bottle of XTRACT that said "on order" thinking I had time. Burn.

I did the same thing not realizing it, held up by a stupid shaker bottle of all things lol.

 

[theonslaught]

Whoa 500mg of epicatechin? Or 500mg including the Filler?

How much epicatechin is actually in this?

200mg epicatechin is the perfect dose for a 200 pound man.


Epicatechin is no ploy or joke. Its a true myostatin inhibitor. I've had amazing results when I ingested 100 grams of Indonesia cacoa beans while I was there. Epicatechin is real, so depending on how much is actually in this, I say Provo to black lion for making a supplement.

So please BLR, I need to know the exact amount of epi in this lol

 

[cbsharpe]

Whoa 500mg of epicatechin? Or 500mg including the Filler?

How much epicatechin is actually in this?

200mg epicatechin is the perfect dose for a 200 pound man.


Epicatechin is no ploy or joke. Its a true myostatin inhibitor. I've had amazing results when I ingested 100 grams of Indonesia cacoa beans while I was there. Epicatechin is real, so depending on how much is actually in this, I say Provo to black lion for making a supplement.

So please BLR, I need to know the exact amount of epi in this lol

Dang bro...reading your post about the results..almost gave me a hard on (no homo) LOL! But seriously, I am extremely looking forward to trying this.

 

[ma70]

Whoa 500mg of epicatechin? Or 500mg including the Filler?

How much epicatechin is actually in this?

200mg epicatechin is the perfect dose for a 200 pound man.


Epicatechin is no ploy or joke. Its a true myostatin inhibitor. I've had amazing results when I ingested 100 grams of Indonesia cacoa beans while I was there. Epicatechin is real, so depending on how much is actually in this, I say Provo to black lion for making a supplement.

So please BLR, I need to know the exact amount of epi in this lol

It's 500mg total. He put in some filler to mask the dosage so competitors could not copy him.

 

[MikeST]

It's 500mg total. He put in some filler to mask the dosage so competitors could not copy him.

i think it would be safe to say there is at least 200mg of (-)-epi in there from previous posts (that is purely my assumption based on various quotes)

 

[BigGame84]

It's really the rice flour that makes you buff.

 

[mbaran]

Given that epicatechin has been shown to be an MAO-B inhibitor:

"Monoamine oxidase B (MAO-B) inhibition by active principles from Uncaria rhynchophylla"

Could Follidrone cause enough inhibition to negatively interact with medications known to be influenced by MAOI's?

 

[theonslaught]

Makes sense. But the amount of epi is crucial to results. 200mg epi is a close dosage for 200 pounder.

My results: 20lbs. In three months.
I was on testp. 200mg/ teenS 600mg per week.
But wtf? 20lbs while looking leaner?
I have no clout here so people can believe or suspect me of BLR affiliatuon. I never use this site but as I did a search about epicatechin supplements (today) this came up. So its very exciting to me.

Key points:

The epicatechin content of raw cocoa beans was in the range of 270 - 1235*mg/100 g cocoa beans. Based on the two assays, Sulawesian beans exhibited the highest antioxidant*capacity followed by Malaysian, Ghanaian and Cote d’Ivoirian beans for both extracts.


Based on the above, I could have very well had been taking 1235mg of epi. per day. Especially since I was eating raw unfermented beans at 100grams.

Unfortunately, myostatin inhibitor gains seem hard to keep unless you're constantly taking the inhibitor. I will tell you though, I did feel like my tendons/joints hurt at the end. Was it from Myo being inhibited or tren, idk.

Id love to do it again and add in a dozen of fertile eggs per day (more follistatin)
For the presale price, this is a major steal.
I unfortunately can't purchase this right now so I'm sad.

 

[brundel]

Boron +
Tongkat Ali=....wait for it

Borat Ali

I might accept free product for payment.

Borat was actually running through my head over and over lol. It just wont fly though.

 

[brundel]

Got mine too!! Would this stack with alphamine and burn24?

I dont know whats in these but seeing as they look like stim names I would make sure to take the time to research the stimulants used as these days lots of companies are using newer stimulants that have very little human research or are known to be hazardous.

 

[brundel]

Given that epicatechin has been shown to be an MAO-B inhibitor:

"Monoamine oxidase B (MAO-B) inhibition by active principles from Uncaria rhynchophylla"

Could Follidrone cause enough inhibition to negatively interact with medications known to be influenced by MAOI's?

Generally speaking MAO B isnt as much of a concern as A.

MAO-A is involved in the metabolism of tyramine; inhibition, in particular irreversible inhibition of MAO-A can result in a dangerous pressor effect when foods high in tyramine are consumed such as cheeses. MAO-A is involved in the metabolism of serotonin, noradrenaline and dopamine where as MAO-B metabolises the dopamine neurotransmitter.[3] MAO-B is an enzyme on the outer mitochondrial membrane and catalyzes the oxidation of arylalkylamine neurotransmitters[4]

Monoamine oxidase A (MAOA) generally metabolizes tyramine, norepinephrine (NE), serotonin (5-HT), and dopamine (DA) (and other less clinically relevant chemicals). In contrast, Monoamine oxidase B (MAOB) mainly metabolizes dopamine (DA) (and other less clinically relevant chemicals). The differences between the substrate selectivity of the two enzymes are utilized clinically when treating specific disorders: Monoamine oxidase A inhibitors have been typically used in the treatment of depression, and monoamine oxidase B inhibitors are typically used in the treatment of Parkinson's disease.[5][6] Nonspecific (i.e. MAOA/B combined) inhibitors can pose problems when taken concomitantly with tyramine-containing foods such as cheese, because the drug's inhibition of MAOA causes a dangerous elevation of serum tyramine levels, which can lead to hypertensive symptoms. Selective MAOB inhibitors bypass this problem by preferentially inhibiting MAOB, which mostly metabolizes DA. If MAOB is inhibited, then more DA is available for proper neuronal function, especially in Parkinson's Disease.

 

[ma70]

Unfortunately, myostatin inhibitor gains seem hard to keep unless you're constantly taking the inhibitor.

Hmmm.....

 

[brundel]

i think it would be safe to say there is at least 200mg of (-)-epi in there from previous posts (that is purely my assumption based on various quotes)

There is at least if not more (-)-epicatechin per 2 caps than was used in any study I am aware of.

 

[brundel]

Actually in studies the effects of (-)-epicatechin were still present 15 days after cessation of administration.

 

[bswanny]

Actually in studies the effects of (-)-epicatechin were still present 15 days after cessation of administration.

Is it known if once you are off (-)-epicatechin, your myostatin levels just return to baseline or a more favorable myostatin level than before taking it? Sorry if this sounds retarded but just wondering if their is a swing in myostatin levels in either direction of baseline once you are off it.

 

[bdybldnaam]

Can't wait to get this to the UK.

 

[cbsharpe]

ohhhhh purchasing schnow!

Smart man.

 

[mbaran]

Generally speaking MAO B isnt as much of a concern as A.

MAO-A is involved in the metabolism of tyramine; inhibition, in particular irreversible inhibition of MAO-A can result in a dangerous pressor effect when foods high in tyramine are consumed such as cheeses. MAO-A is involved in the metabolism of serotonin, noradrenaline and dopamine where as MAO-B metabolises the dopamine neurotransmitter.[3] MAO-B is an enzyme on the outer mitochondrial membrane and catalyzes the oxidation of arylalkylamine neurotransmitters[4]

Monoamine oxidase A (MAOA) generally metabolizes tyramine, norepinephrine (NE), serotonin (5-HT), and dopamine (DA) (and other less clinically relevant chemicals). In contrast, Monoamine oxidase B (MAOB) mainly metabolizes dopamine (DA) (and other less clinically relevant chemicals). The differences between the substrate selectivity of the two enzymes are utilized clinically when treating specific disorders: Monoamine oxidase A inhibitors have been typically used in the treatment of depression, and monoamine oxidase B inhibitors are typically used in the treatment of Parkinson's disease.[5][6] Nonspecific (i.e. MAOA/B combined) inhibitors can pose problems when taken concomitantly with tyramine-containing foods such as cheese, because the drug's inhibition of MAOA causes a dangerous elevation of serum tyramine levels, which can lead to hypertensive symptoms. Selective MAOB inhibitors bypass this problem by preferentially inhibiting MAOB, which mostly metabolizes DA. If MAOB is inhibited, then more DA is available for proper neuronal function, especially in Parkinson's Disease.

I am aware of this. However any medications that release or inhibit dopamine reuptake (Adderall, Ritalin), as well as any supplements that contain phenylethylamine in significant quantities could have an amplified/longer sustained effect. I was curious if any testing was done in this regard.

 

[HTGduck]

Haha. It already has 18 votes on NutraPlanet and of course over a 4 star rating along with all other BLR supplements.

 

[burpees]

Haha. It already has 18 votes on NutraPlanet and of course over a 4 star rating along with all other BLR supplements.

Who goes by NutraPlanet star rating anyways ?

Let BLR cook , it's called marketing It's your job to research

 

[GQNemesis]

Haha. It already has 18 votes on NutraPlanet and of course over a 4 star rating along with all other BLR supplements.

lol nice

 

[brundel]

Haha. It already has 18 votes on NutraPlanet and of course over a 4 star rating along with all other BLR supplements.

Lol. This is funny. Nobody has even got past a few days with it.
I dont think The rating system works.
Some companies have reviews up and star ratings and its not even the same product anymore. So its 100% a lie.
And competitors will go and try to undermine other companies by posting bull**** and bad ratings.
Garbage.

 

[brundel]

Id go by Logs and by perhaps the reviews on AM although people can likely be persuaded to write anything someone paying them says.
This is why some companies have 88888282828282282 reps. So when they say the product is good the uninformed will see 30 replies backing it up but its all reps doing it. I think the whole company rep thing should be stopped.
The good news is with all of our products we have tons of non paid non rep users who back us.

 

[GQNemesis]

Lol. This is funny. Nobody has even got past a few days with it.
I dont think The rating system works.
Some companies have reviews up and star ratings and its not even the same product anymore. So its 100% a lie.
And competitors will go and try to undermine other companies by posting bull**** and bad ratings.
Garbage.

Yup I agree, stars don't mean jack shyt .. I always go by logs and reviews on forums. If you are buying by stars reviews then all your paycheck was prolly invested in pink magic lol

 

[XIXOX]

Hey mr brundel I'm going to stack follidrone in May, How will be follidrone on 5 days high prot + fat and 2 days refeed prot + high carb.

Could I enjoy the benefits of full follidrone with this diet ? I want to keep lean but full (not water)

 

[ma70]

NP says my shipment is coming in this Friday but it's my deload week. Do you think I should start dosing this stuff next week after my deload or should I just let the effects settle in ASAP?

 

[z28spd]

Thoughts:
7% grip strength increase with 6 subjects (untrained) was not statistically significant. Also there was no control group.

The study used a tested extract from Sigma Aldrich (we don't know source of Follidrone's active, or actual amount).

Only says it increased the follistatin/myostatin ratio by 49%. You don't know if it actually lowered myostatin or raised follistatin.

You also state FOLLODRONE (might want to fix this) decreases myostatin levels 49% when you cant conclude that based on above and the studies did not use Follidrone.

 

[koi1214]

Brundel I have a question for you.Do you think that a high volume routine such as GVT would be best to run when taking Follidrone?

 

[brundel]

Hey mr brundel I'm going to stack follidrone in May, How will be follidrone on 5 days high prot + fat and 2 days refeed prot + high carb.

Could I enjoy the benefits of full follidrone with this diet ? I want to keep lean but full (not water)

Its hard to say as only so many people have really run it. I would expect some recomp effects and endurance and strength.
Honestly I want to see how it works in more of a deficit for a cut as there is evidence it helps burn off fat.