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NEW PRODUCT!! FOLLIDRONE FAQ

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For those wondering if your strength decreases after ceasing use of (-)- epicatechin.... NO!!!
Before folli my squat was 165 for 6 or 8.... One month after folli... 165 for 10... For 8 full sets!! Then 185 for 10.. Then 205 for 10. Hell yeah. Still felt like I could do 205 for 2 or 3 more sets!! GVT routines are certainly no joke!!
 
htghunterray said:
For those wondering if your strength decreases after ceasing use of (-)- epicatechin.... NO!!!
Before folli my squat was 165 for 6 or 8.... One month after folli... 165 for 10... For 8 full sets!! Then 185 for 10.. Then 205 for 10. Hell yeah. Still felt like I could do 205 for 2 or 3 more sets!! GVT routines are certainly no joke!!
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Maybe but for how long??? I have fears of coming off Follidrone.
 
ELROCK said:
Maybe but for how long??? I have fears of coming off Follidrone.
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With it being released about April I doubt many of us will know until about fall. I know what ya mean though
 
Uncapped and threw it in with my PWO and it went down just fine, was def. shocked
 
wow! I have no favorites in this game: hell, in fact, I've stayed away from here because of this kind of childishness, and the bull**** nature of most supplements. This argument you're carrying on with OL has really turned me off to your company. I've been checking out what's come along in the last few years, but I think now I'll just stear clear of your company--your behaviour in this matter (as well as a cardiac arrest at 40yo "while on cycle") makes me believe you lack sound--or any--judgement.

Crowbar
 
Good. More Follidrone for me.

But seriously man. It seems dropped.

Plus and probably the most important part here is, there wouldn't BE an EP1C if there wasn't a Follidrone. Or a Brundel to think of such a product.

That's the industry for you man. It's perfectly fine.
 
brundel said:
Just to be fair......
Formeron is not a CEL clone.
I used Formeron in its present state for many years. Before CEL even existed and long before their TD form.
We also have a completely different carrier.
Also CEL form is not even a current product. Hasnt been for a long time.
OL recreates anything new that comes out. The epi product is exactly the same ingredients and is marketed as a clone.
SO get your facts straight.

To imply that BLR makes clones of anything is frankly insulting but also false.

And sure....this is how things go....there is even follidrex now.
Didnt even try to come up with a name.

And again..if you knew anything about how chem testing works you would understand that the test provided doesnt prove anything.
Trying to call us out on it has only served to work against you.
Like I said.....I promise.
Ill make sure its much bigger than an AM post though.

You guys want to make clones of everyones products and do nothing for yourself...fine...its just who you choose to be.
Dont expect to make any friends doing so.
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Formeron is just as much of a clone of CEL Formestane as Epi /Folli.
Do you used Formeron in its present state before CEL? Yea right..you are definitely full of it
 
Can we put this to rest already, seriously this has gotten to the point where everything about this is becoming saddening especially btw 2 companies killing the game. I get that theres alot of pride between your product lines, but the consumers are only seeing bantering as many of us arent going to do our research to understand where anyone is coming from.

With that said I hope everyone is having a Great 4th with their family and friends in some way or another.
 
Man... At the end of the day no matter what you have to respect Brundel. Epicatechin, boron, tongkat all of this stuff has been around for years! He didn't make it!! This man just took countless time and research to see what works! He found what works and now have a great product. If tomorrow Brundel finds out that eating grass out your back yard grows muscle and sticks it in a bottle and is successful you can't be mad!! Lol
 
TheMovement said:
Can we put this to rest already, seriously this has gotten to the point where everything about this is becoming saddening especially btw 2 companies killing the game. I get that theres alot of pride between your product lines, but the consumers are only seeing bantering as many of us arent going to do our research to understand where anyone is coming from.

With that said I hope everyone is having a Great 4th with their family and friends in some way or another.
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It's not just two companies but about 4 that Brundel has repeatedly used his Subforum to bash and slander others.
 
Johnold said:
I got you Brundel. I didn't think much of any of that stuff anyways. It's out of my handle anyway.

Like I said before, YOU came out with Epicatechin as a useful product.

I guess I'd be mad Too if I didn't think of that as well. But no big deal. It's not gonna stop clones from coming out and all the negative or positive hype that comes with.

Life is too short for that type of stuff.
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Did he come out with it before EvoMuse? I know Matt posted something about MyoSynergy before I heard anything about Folli.

From what I understand EM was working on it for quite a while before the release.
 
jimbuick said:
Did he come out with it before EvoMuse? I know Matt posted something about MyoSynergy before I heard anything about Folli.

From what I understand EM was working on it for quite a while before the release.
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I'm sure Matt was working on MyoS.

I believe FD came out first. Brundel made sure FD came out first.

But whatever. Let's just get back to overdosing on Epicatechin and grow gainz!
 
Wow I was finally able to place an order, I've been trying for months but I work 2 jobs it's always out of stock I can't wait!
 
Johnold said:
I'm sure Matt was working on MyoS.

I believe FD came out first. Brundel made sure FD came out first.

But whatever. Let's just get back to overdosing on Epicatechin and grow gainz!
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I remember brundel having to force the release early to try to compete with EMs scheduled release of MyoSynergy.

But, I agree, no reason to argue over crap that doesn't matter. I just don't particularly care for the way all of this has been handled by certain parties.
 
crowbar46 said:
wow! I have no favorites in this game: hell, in fact, I've stayed away from here because of this kind of childishness, and the bull**** nature of most supplements. This argument you're carrying on with OL has really turned me off to your company. I've been checking out what's come along in the last few years, but I think now I'll just stear clear of your company--your behaviour in this matter (as well as a cardiac arrest at 40yo "while on cycle") makes me believe you lack sound--or any--judgement.

Crowbar
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Maybe you should stay away a little longer;)
 
What's the half life of -epi?
 
(-)-Epicatechin does NOT taste bad....at least quality sourced (-)-Epicatechin doesn't. Weird that you would say that.

(Not doubting your quality)

:blink:
 
moontan360 said:
(-)-Epicatechin does NOT taste bad....at least quality sourced (-)-Epicatechin doesn't. Weird that you would say that. (Not doubting your quality) :blink:
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May I ask how you know this? I haven't, but I would assume it would be tart like unsweetened cocoa is.
 
jaycuda said:
May I ask how you know this? I haven't, but I would assume it would be tart like unsweetened cocoa is.
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I've looked heavily into sourcing it for a product. We've spent a lot of time researching and sourcing this raw in the process. With that said, I'm not here to debate as to who has the best Epicatechiin product, but just stating what I know. I'll also state that we've decided to move on from this ingredient as well due to the sudden influx of competing products. It's a really expensive material to use, and with all the competition, it's margins have been drastically reduced to a point that's not worth the cost in our eyes.

Great ingredient, just not for us at this point.

My post was purely out of curiosity, as it has very little taste. To help further that point, some recent Follidrone users even reports opening the capsule and it had little taste to it.
 
moontan360 said:
I've looked heavily into sourcing it for a product. We've spent a lot of time researching and sourcing this raw in the process. With that said, I'm not here to debate as to who has the best Epicatechiin product, but just stating what I know. I'll also state that we've decided to move on from this ingredient as well due to the sudden influx of competing products. It's a really expensive material to use, and with all the competition, it's margins have been drastically reduced to a point that's not worth the cost in our eyes. Great ingredient, just not for us at this point. My post was purely out of curiosity, as it has very little taste. To help further that point, some recent Follidrone users even reports opening the capsule and it had little taste to it.
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Me either. Just saw your post and wondered where that knowledge came from. Pretty nice to know since I do plan to use it in the future.
 
mw1 said:
Formeron is just as much of a clone of CEL Formestane as Epi /Folli.
Do you used Formeron in its present state before CEL? Yea right..you are definitely full of it
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As always fantastic intelligent contribution. You should be proud of yourself for literally offering nothing of value. Ever.

I did use formeron in its current formula for about 12-15 years give or take.
I like how you said (-)-epicatechin was bogus when we released it but now you promote every company pushing it. Of course you do this just to be a jerk.

Again....your parents must be so proud of you.



Probably not.
 
moontan360 said:
(-)-Epicatechin does NOT taste bad....at least quality sourced (-)-Epicatechin doesn't. Weird that you would say that.

(Not doubting your quality)

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Your actually right.
I had just heard it was removed often from cocoa s it was bitter. Ive never tasted it but our chem supplier, who reads reads threads mentioned to me it doesnt taste bad.
My mistake.
 
This bashing needs to stop. Can we just appreciate the products please.

5 days into follidrone and the volume I can output is just amazing. I've had to cut most of my workouts short this first week due to existing engagements but I never want to leave the gym. Great product!
 
Joshlm69 said:
This snapping needs to stop.
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indeed noone likes thieving testudines


[video=youtube;81720bVYf9Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81720bVYf9Q[/video]
 
Joshlm69 said:
This bashing needs to stop. Can we just appreciate the products please.

5 days into follidrone and the volume I can output is just amazing. I've had to cut most of my workouts short this first week due to existing engagements but I never want to leave the gym. Great product!
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I know what ya mean, when you mix Conquer and Folli the results will take any man to new heights
 
Touey said:
indeed noone likes thieving testudines Invalid Link Removed
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Touey, you should repost your week by week breakdown and recommendations in a new thread. I'm on week 4 and am definitely going to be scaling back this week, maybe even taking a few days off of follidrone. It came out of nowhere and hit me like a truck. Glad you posted it before though bc I'm not shocked or anything now.
 
brundel said:
Your actually right.
I had just heard it was removed often from cocoa s it was bitter. Ive never tasted it but our chem supplier, who reads reads threads mentioned to me it doesnt taste bad.
My mistake.
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Awesome. I was thrown for a loop when I seen that. Good deal!

:party:
 
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