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KLEEN'S Corner - Where the Cool Kidz Kick It!

The PB, bananas and honey sounds great! I'm scared to have a tub of marshmallow fluff at my house.
Agreed, unless in the middle of a massive carb load. Only problem then would be no peanut butter because it would need to be relatively low fat.
Tomorrow is my heavy stiff deads day. I have PB and bananas so I might try those two on that bread for my post workout carbs
Nice that will be good. If you have honey too just drizzle it don't go too heavy on it.

Pretty much why I don't buy a lot of things. I can sit there & tell myself that jar of Nutella is only gonna be occasionally, & post-WO, but the reality is it's gonna be in the middle of a lazy off-day & it's gonna be about 5 spoonfuls of shame. No thanks lol; it's easy enough for me to cheat as is.
This is awesomeness! Mine is icecream, we have to buy pints and I finish mine in one sitting but I will leave everyone elses pint alone. If we get a half or gallon size I will go back 2 - 3 times a day for large bowls and that doesn't even count the "spoonfuls of shame" in between were I just pop the top eat a spoonful and put it back. LOL I am really bad with a few other things to like I have a REALLY hard time stopping eating pizza once I start I will eat it until it is gone or I am so full I am miserable. So I don't even start it most of the time.
Kinda like that box of pop tarts where one foil wrapped bag becomes a whole box 'serving'...

Yep! Can't buy pop-tarts anymore cause of that type of sh!t right there
I am lucky on the Pop Tarts although I love them I can manage to keep it to a sleeve at a time if that is what is required. Plus if I put the box out of daily site I can keep it until the next time I refeed.
Biscuits & gravy. Not postWO, just in general. There's NEVER the right time for them, yet somehow it's ALWAYS the right time for them. Just sayin'.
No doubt and man I don't honestly remember the last time I had them. I love them with sausage crumbled in the gravy too!!!! Just so happens I love the colorado omelet with a waffle at IHOP more so that is what I get when cheating. Man IHOP waffles are fugging awesome!!!!!! Mouth just watered.

I generally try to avoid pressing anything behind the neck, it puts a pretty serious strain on the ol rotator cuff and since I've already had two shoulder injuries.....
The point of impingement is below the crown of the head getting back into the neck area. These don't go that deep so it isn't as bad.

The over and backs really aren't too harsh on the rotator cuffs for whatever reason. I'm assuming its a ROM thing. They never bothered mine anyway. And everything bothers my shoulders haha
Exactly it is the ROM he recommends you keep the barbell higher in the back side of the press to avoid the impingement plus you will also notice he pushes his head forward so he is really only moving the plane of movement back about 3 inches not the entire depth of the head. Typically bending your head down wouldn't be good but the weight is light and you aren't craning your neck just moving your head forward.


So I am looking pretty good right now. I am up a pound but a little leaner the increases in calories are obviously going in the right place. I am enjoying having a few new foods in my diet. Each week is going to open up new options for me which I am very happy for. I don't check in with coach until next Friday so my current strategy for adding calories will remain or I will just ask him if he wants to modify anything. He is really good about the on the fly changes. Right now we still are not doing any real cardio the cals are still low and not trying to push a deficit from cardio when we can manage rest periods and intensity to burn a little fat if we want.

On to life in general, it is my daughters BDay this weekend and we are having her annual slumber party on Saturday. This will more than likely serve as my cheat as there will be both pizza and ice cream and as mentioned above WEAKNESS! The good news it is all starting in the evening so I can treat it as a CBL style carb load by avoiding carbs all day up until then. Anyway very proud of the little girl and excited for her on this birthday. For her big present we agreed to paint and decorate her room in big girl fashion. So we got her a trundle day bed which we are painting to match the room. That means next weekend I will be painting my daughters room and redecorating it. We got wall decals and things for her and new comforter so she should be pretty happy.
 
Pretty much why I don't buy a lot of things. I can sit there & tell myself that jar of Nutella is only gonna be occasionally, & post-WO, but the reality is it's gonna be in the middle of a lazy off-day & it's gonna be about 5 spoonfuls of shame. No thanks lol; it's easy enough for me to cheat as is.

Exactly why I don't have pb in the house.....it's my favorite with oats and that's a big no no atm lol.
 
Exactly why I don't have pb in the house.....it's my favorite with oats and that's a big no no atm lol.

I totally get it , lol...
I was so sad when my PB got cut out during my show prep....lol...
The best week ever was my last week of prep( fat loading, lol..)
I ate 3kg of all natty PB in that one week, ha ha...
 
Reese's Peanut Butter Puffs...that is all.
 
I tried the bread spread with PB and had 6 slices of banana on there! Very good!
Nice!

So this weekend was pretty packed with chaos! I had no idea we had so much to do and so many things planned. We had my brother in laws girlfriends daughter for the night Friday on top of party preparations, then Saturday was all party prep up into the party where we had 9 girls between the age of 7 and 10 spending the night. They left at Noon Sunday, once this was over we had to go to late lunch with some other friends visiting from Austin, finish that up drop my daughter off at another girls party, then we go leave pick up another cake and have another celebration for my daughters birthday with just the family since Sunday was her real birthday. So all in all I simply did not make it to the gym this weekend... Talk about life getting in the way eh...

Today is scheduled as an off day. I probably need one not so much for muscle recovery as simply recovering from being exhausted having so little sleep and downtime this weekend. Trying to decide if I am going to go ahead and lift tonight or just rock it out tomorrow. Will really depend on how I feel when I get home. Right now I feel there may be a possibility but sometimes the ride home let's me know how tired I really am. If I am still feeling this tired I will just go to bed early and kill it tomorrow.

I did get my Tren Devastation Liquid Suspension Sub-lingual Drops and plan to either take my first dose tonight before my workout or tomorrow just depends. Pretty excited to give it a shot supposed to be as close to the injection gear as you can get right now. We shall see!!!!
 
Nice! So this weekend was pretty packed with chaos! I had no idea we had so much to do and so many things planned. We had my brother in laws girlfriends daughter for the night Friday on top of party preparations, then Saturday was all party prep up into the party where we had 9 girls between the age of 7 and 10 spending the night. They left at Noon Sunday, once this was over we had to go to late lunch with some other friends visiting from Austin, finish that up drop my daughter off at another girls party, then we go leave pick up another cake and have another celebration for my daughters birthday with just the family since Sunday was her real birthday. So all in all I simply did not make it to the gym this weekend... Talk about life getting in the way eh... Today is scheduled as an off day. I probably need one not so much for muscle recovery as simply recovering from being exhausted having so little sleep and downtime this weekend. Trying to decide if I am going to go ahead and lift tonight or just rock it out tomorrow. Will really depend on how I feel when I get home. Right now I feel there may be a possibility but sometimes the ride home let's me know how tired I really am. If I am still feeling this tired I will just go to bed early and kill it tomorrow. I did get my Tren Devastation Liquid Suspension Sub-lingual Drops and plan to either take my first dose tonight before my workout or tomorrow just depends. Pretty excited to give it a shot supposed to be as close to the injection gear as you can get right now. We shall see!!!!


Happy bday to the lil one!
 
So what you're saying is you ate a lot of cake.... :)
 
Hey Chris just checkin in. Been doing pretty good added some big time mass over the winter. A little too much weight maybe 8-10 lbs. Tough for me when there is no immediate goal. I am pretty pleased though. I am 224 and was able to do 8 really nice pullups which is about 8 more than I can usually do at this weight. Focus has been mainly on increasing chest size and getting wider.

I may be going into training full time soon and going back to Ottawa where there are a lot of people who want my help to turn things around in their life. I might be able to pull it off.
 
Hey Chris just checkin in. Been doing pretty good added some big time mass over the winter. A little too much weight maybe 8-10 lbs. Tough for me when there is no immediate goal. I am pretty pleased though. I am 224 and was able to do 8 really nice pullups which is about 8 more than I can usually do at this weight. Focus has been mainly on increasing chest size and getting wider.

I may be going into training full time soon and going back to Ottawa where there are a lot of people who want my help to turn things around in their life. I might be able to pull it off.


Good to see you around again big guy.
 
Holy Fugger! DW is spotted on AM! Nice to see you back here!

Thanks Man I got very busy at work for a while but like I said might want to go into the fitness scene full time so will be able to free up some time to contribute here.

My training has not suffered though :) working hard as always.
 
If it aint old Iron Man Doug in the house. Hope all is well and good luck with your future plans
 
Happy bday to the lil one!
Thanks SB!

You definitely had a packed weekend! Your going to love the liquid tren! Can't wait!
I have no doubt the feedback is pretty good so far the 2 logs that are already going.
Are you on TRT yet, Kleen?
Not yet.
If not, he sure is working on it lol
Absolutely! I was going to go to one place and then found out how much they were gouging and decided not to go there. Then was going to go where Monte goes but they want cash in hand and I have the money for my TRT stashed in my benefits card so it was a surprise to find out they would not take it...
Now my buddy just got on with this PCP who actually specializes in HRT, and he was able to come completely clean with her regarding his AAS and OTC Oral use. She put him on 150mg cyp a week, and insurance pays for the visits he just has to pay for the testosterone at the pharmacy. So my plan is to go there and see if I can get all my needs met plus have her aware that I intend to compete and my bloods are simply going to get a bit out of whack.

Right now I am simply doing a Cruise > Blast Scenario with methyls on the blasts and non methyls or SARM during the Cruise periods. Remember I already know I have no recovery, I have done the High Dosed SERMS and even an HCG Blast to get my levels back up to no avail. The only thing that has slowed me down getting on TRT is that my current Dr won't put me on it if my liver values are off. Once I waited and got it to where they should have been back down but I got a nasty chemical burn a couple days before my bloods and my liver values were high from all the toxins. It has just been a parade of strange situations surrounding the times I have gone to get my bloods done.

Hey Chris just checkin in. Been doing pretty good added some big time mass over the winter. A little too much weight maybe 8-10 lbs. Tough for me when there is no immediate goal. I am pretty pleased though. I am 224 and was able to do 8 really nice pullups which is about 8 more than I can usually do at this weight. Focus has been mainly on increasing chest size and getting wider.

I may be going into training full time soon and going back to Ottawa where there are a lot of people who want my help to turn things around in their life. I might be able to pull it off.
Man that would really be awesome Doug! I know it is what you love to do! Glad you are back on here even if just to pop in. I hope to see you around more Old Fugger!

For the rest of you that responded the darn multi-quote pooped out on me so that is why you are not being quoted.

So yesterday was basically a complete loss as far as working out goes. I left work yesterday mentally getting pumped up for my first workout on Tren Devastation last night and got to my wife's work where she informed me we were taking Nana out for dinner for her birthday. So I quickly changed the mental gears into Lovey Sweet Chris instead of growling and intense gym Chris and went about spoiling Nana!

Tonight I will go in and hit it hard. I feel I haven't been to the gym in forever which really sucks.
 
How much is trt?
 
How much is trt?

It really depends on where you go. The initial place I was going to go I found out was gouging charging like 1000 for initial consult and blood work. EH WRONG!!!
The other place that was cash only was $250 every 10-12 weeks the testosterone is included. With this PCP doctor it will be whatever my normal Dr copay is and about $50 per 10ml of test which will last 10-20 weeks depending on the TRT dose they prescribe. Like the 150mg per week my buddy is getting the bottle would last 15 weeks.

The big difference is most of the cash only or no insurance places will end up giving you higher doses because they want your business and they don't have to report to your insurance. Plus the cash places don't test for everything they tend to only test for your hormone levels and not health markers like a PCP would.
 
I had to find the new log all by myself :(

Yeah I tried putting a list of names in a post to call people in here and was going to come back and finish the list and never got around to it. I was sure I had you in there too. That is just how it goes when you start rushing in between calls at work to get things done. Sorry I missed ya B!
 
Yeah I tried putting a list of names in a post to call people in here and was going to come back and finish the list and never got around to it. I was sure I had you in there too. That is just how it goes when you start rushing in between calls at work to get things done. Sorry I missed ya B!


LOL its all good... Look great BTW ;)
 
LOL its all good... Look great BTW ;)
Thanks Brother! I have 2 birthdays worth of cake to burn off right now... Not fat or anything but I have a little water on me today. I am sure it will be gone by tomorrow.
 
So these cash only joints, what prerequisites do you have to meet to get on TRT? Like, can any joe-blow with the money to pay for the visits walk in off the street & ask to be put on?

Just asking out of curiousity (srs). I got a LONG time before I'd be looking at that.
 
How much is trt?


I think the best bet is insurance thru your work if possible. My test injections were free if I had them done at the doctors & so was the test crypt.
Then I switched to the patch, not only are they a pain in the a$$ & a piece of $hit, they're costing me 45$ a box!
Back to injections for sure after this cycle with a bunch of patches saved up.
Bummer you gotta go on TRT Chris but it does feel great after your loaded up!
 
So these cash only joints, what prerequisites do you have to meet to get on TRT? Like, can any joe-blow with the money to pay for the visits walk in off the street & ask to be put on?

Just asking out of curiousity (srs). I got a LONG time before I'd be looking at that.

Well you're levels must be lowish to go to the one I personally go to.

I walked in with 251 test level at 27 years old.

250mg every week :) BOOM
 
Well you're levels must be lowish to go to the one I personally go to.

I walked in with 251 test level at 27 years old.

250mg every week :) BOOM

Hyde, exactly what Monte said. Those places are in it for the cash, but you do have to qualify by being low enough for them to prescribe it. I called them and they said just come up and do the blood work then we will set an appointment for you to come back in a couple days to get the Dr Visit where things are prescribed.
 
Thanks for the info, guys. For some reason I was thinking it would be a lot more.
 
Kleen, will the doc allow you to pin yourself or do you have to go into doctor's office?
 
You guys are lucky you have a the scenario for TRT that allows you to get the help you need to get set up. I looked into it here and you have to go to a private clinic and it's pretty costly then at the end of it they want to use the andro cream on you... not sure if it's worth it.
 
You guys are lucky you have a the scenario for TRT that allows you to get the help you need to get set up. I looked into it here and you have to go to a private clinic and it's pretty costly then at the end of it they want to use the andro cream on you... not sure if it's worth it.

Id be alright with androgel or something as long as it kept me in the natural level, which for me before I started this last blast was 5-600ish. Not a huge fan of high test. I get worse sides from test/estro than anything else. Love blasting other compounds. I'm falling in love with deca my arthritis is all but gone on 300mg a week. Even my shoulder that suffers a SLAP tear has been relatively "comfortable".

DW you live fairly close to the border, would it possibly be worth coming down here? Idk how stuff like that would work tho.
 
Id be alright with androgel or something as long as it kept me in the natural level, which for me before I started this last blast was 5-600ish. Not a huge fan of high test. I get worse sides from test/estro than anything else. Love blasting other compounds. I'm falling in love with deca my arthritis is all but gone on 300mg a week. Even my shoulder that suffers a SLAP tear has been relatively "comfortable".

DW you live fairly close to the border, would it possibly be worth coming down here? Idk how stuff like that would work tho.

I never considered that didn't know you could do that.
 
Idk if you can but I'd imagine it'd be worth looking into. I know Canadians come down here for medical stuff they don't want to wait for.

Great idea, I'll look into it, I have heard of people going down for medical stuff come to think of it.
 
With the looming hike to Tricare coming up I may just stick to domestic UGLs for blasting and a clinic for maintenance
 
hey edge ... glad to be back. So your with Olympus now I guess will have to have a look at the line.

Great products! Highly dosed, quality tested...and a big bang for your bucks.

Tr3st, Furaza-300 will be my next cycle.

Ep15tane and tr3n are highly dosed aswell. Exciting times my friend.

Maybe some cool promo's in the near future;) hint hint
 
Great products! Highly dosed, quality tested...and a big bang for your bucks.

Tr3st, Furaza-300 will be my next cycle.

Ep15tane and tr3n are highly dosed aswell. Exciting times my friend.

Maybe some cool promo's in the near future;) hint hint

Say no more a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat :) ...
 
Kleen, will the doc allow you to pin yourself or do you have to go into doctor's office?
Yes, this particular doctor will. She did not even make my friend do one in front of her. She told him if he had been injecting himself for years he knew how to do it.
Depends on dr/clinic from what I've seen
Absolutely a lot of them like racking up that visit money...

An Endocrinologist will most likely be the one to let you pin at home or not, seeing him makes the difference here in calif.
No there are a lot of testosterone clinics that work via mail. You send them your bloodwork proving low test and a recent physical or something saying you are in decent general health then they send you the testosterone for a fee. Some of them do things like 300 test and nandrolone a week... It really just depends on where you go and what you are willing to pay for.
Say no more a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat :) ...
Nice one Doug!

Okay so today was Chest and Shoulders. I pulled a page out of the Meadows training and hit it up.

Hammer Strength Decline Press - 90x15, 115x15, 135x8, 180x11 - the seat fell out from under me early on in the set and I lost count. I thought I got 12 so I stopped. Sucks... thinking I had 12 and finding out I should have pushed for another rep.

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BB Incline Press - 135x15, 185x8, 205x7, 185x12 - This felt pretty good but I do feel pressure on my biceps tendon now when benching too. Obviously this isn't going away on it's own. I am calling to make an appointment for an ART session. Weights aren't that impressive but I did push pretty hard on the declines.

Pec Deck 4/4/2's - 2 sets with 135 lbs - Holy Chest Pump Batman! I love these things the fact you can bring your arm a few inches closer to center line really maximizes the contraction on the inner pecs!

DB Side Raise Partials - 45lbs x35, 30, 25, 20 - Holy Hell I was burning from this and my delts were swelling in front of my eyes. I think I may opt to do 2 sets of these and 2 sets of heavy top end on the lateral raise machine.

Rear Delt Machine - 80x15, 90x15, 90x15 - Man these were some perfect form reps. I had the seat just right and kept my scapula protracted, shoulder girdle nice and low completely isolating and squeezing every rep.

DB Rear Delt Destroyers - 45x60>22.5x30>10x10 - Wow I hadn't done these in a bit boy the time off and working the rear delt machine first dropped my strength a bit. At about rep 40 on the first set I had to stop for about 3-5 seconds to breathe some of the fire out of my shoulders before completing the 60 reps. My shoulders were so pumped when I was done it was ridiculous. My rear delt was sticking out close to an inch farther than the top of my triceps. You will see the pump in my post workout video if you follow my log on Swoldiers. If you plan to let me know so I can give you my referral link. So far I made 4 videos for it today, and only 1 or two I can post over here. So that is where all the visual aids are...

Dips 1 set to failure, I failed at 56 reps. - Not too bad after that workout if I do say so myself. I was extremely pumped when this was done.

So after my lift I had a protein shake, no carbs doing most of my carbs in the afternoon and evenings. So you can imagine my surprise when an hour later I look down and see road map veins webbing up and down my arm. Here is what it looked like.

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I have to say that today felt great, I just got in there and pushed some weight. Didn't allow myself to be overly worried about the silly BS injuries I have been babying and instead just moved some weight. Definitely noticed a new aggression from the Tren Devastation. That sub-lingual delivery is something else.
 
You guys are lucky you have a the scenario for TRT that allows you to get the help you need to get set up. I looked into it here and you have to go to a private clinic and it's pretty costly then at the end of it they want to use the andro cream on you... not sure if it's worth it.

In Montreal is it called 'Men's Health Clinic'. We have that in Toronto.. consultation fee is 350... then after that everything is covered by benefits. I have not been myself but know a couple of guys that have.
 
Great products! Highly dosed, quality tested...and a big bang for your bucks.

Tr3st, Furaza-300 will be my next cycle.

Ep15tane and tr3n are highly dosed aswell. Exciting times my friend.

Maybe some cool promo's in the near future;) hint hint

Congrats on the gig Edje
 
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