PES Select Protein: Read up!

mw1 said:
Bulk luecine doesn't really have a taste. If you mix it with a protein you wouldnt even know it. I regularly add some in Xtend as well
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This. Leave overnight and it mixes. Imo the cost:benefit ratio is better if adding leucine is your goal.
 
Thought Coop mentioned once that Leucine makes you fat; and Oxylite Protein was the best profile around?

Guess that was before the PES protein. And I love Leucine. Can't wait to get my tub. Good job PES
 
mr.cooper69 said:
MPI is 80/20 casein whey. The protein is 50/50 whey casein. So there is more MPI than WPC. The leucine peptides are then titrated to a dose to achieve 5g leucine per serving. I'm not going to break down all the math, though I've obviously done it in a separate document, and while it can be reverse-engineered, I'd rather not make it easy as pie. Most formulators out there would have a tough time reversing the math, sadly (though to our benefit). And I have no problem with your questions here. I was getting comments about other stuff which is now deleted so I never even saw it. I just want us to be respectful around here. You obviously know I'm a huge fan of SNS, the only other company I ever worked for and I still hold many of the reps near and dear to my heart. People are making it out to be this SNS vs PES thing, which is the last thing I want as they are my 2 favorite companies.
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I though 3 grams was leucines cap according to layne.
 

noone care on anything other then djbomb vs beanpole

we all waiting no longer delay you bro do this now no need for shy my brother
 
southsideguy said:
Thought Coop mentioned once that Leucine makes you fat; and Oxylite Protein was the best profile around?

Guess that was before the PES protein. And I love Leucine. Can't wait to get my tub. Good job PES
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I've never said leucine makes you fat. Unless I was drunk. I've been using leucine through AS for months and through SNS for years
 
Has anyone noticed that someone has been voting all of the PES threads down to 1 star? lol.
 
I'm stumped as to who that could be... :)
 
I have a feeling it wont have much if any effect on the ironclad reputation PES has around here lol.

Haters are pathetic.
 
Driven2lift said:
I have a feeling it wont have much if any effect on the ironclad reputation PES has around here lol.

Haters are pathetic.
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I have a firm belief that nobody ever reached the top of their industry without gaining hatred somewhere.

Although it is frustrating, I like to take it as byproduct of us growing at such a fast rate. :)
 
Same as with all of the copycats of PES formulas, yes it sucks but it means you're doing it right.
 
bdcc said:
I have a firm belief that nobody ever reached the top of their industry without gaining hatred somewhere.

Although it is frustrating, I like to take it as byproduct of us growing at such a fast rate. :)
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A company acting the fool only helps the other company, it's amazing marketing having one company continuously involved in Marketing of another brand(yes they are marketing but they will never think that but they are). It's a powerful technique and the company being attacked should be grateful to the company on the attack, maybe send them a check....

It may even be an intentional tactic....Beef sells, the rap game has thrived on it since inception of rap...

If any company doesn't spark emotion, its not selling product and the company who is always complaining is not selling products...

at the end of this all we'll probably witness a stack between both companies at Nutraplanet. The consumer should hope for that..
 
USPlabsRep said:
A company acting the fool only helps the other company, it's amazing marketing to have one company continuously involved in Marketing of another brand(yes they are marketing but they will never think that but they are). It's a powerful technique and the company being attacked should be grateful to the company on the attack, maybe send them a check....

It may even be an intentional tactic....Beef sells, the rap game has thrived on it since inception of rap...

If any company doesn't spark emotion, its not selling product and the company who is always complaining is not selling products...

at the end of this all we'll probably witness a stack between both companies at Nutraplanet. The consumer should hope for that..
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So *that's* why Tim has been absent lately :p
 
USPlabsRep said:
A company acting the fool only helps the other company, it's amazing marketing having one company continuously involved in Marketing of another brand(yes they are marketing but they will never think that but they are). It's a powerful technique and the company being attacked should be grateful to the company on the attack, maybe send them a check....

It may even be an intentional tactic....Beef sells, the rap game has thrived on it since inception of rap...

If any company doesn't spark emotion, its not selling product and the company who is always complaining is not selling products...

at the end of this all we'll probably witness a stack between both companies at Nutraplanet. The consumer should hope for that..
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Exactly. There is no such thing as "bad PR". Therefore, it has come to my attention that PES, SNS, and USPLabs all adulter their products with the blood of infants.*











*make checks payable to "Bioman" at 1245 Internet Troll Blvd.
 
bioman said:
Exactly. There is no such thing as "bad PR". Therefore, it has come to my attention that PES, SNS, and USPLabs all adulter their products with the blood of infants.*










*make checks payable to "Bioman" at 1245 Internet Troll Blvd.
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If that's the case support Evomuse. We supply them with the infants. Bad PR alert!
 
I've always used whey casein blend for protein. However post workout casein just seemed hard to put down. I always stick with isolate and 5g Leucine.
 
chainsaw said:
I've always used whey casein blend for protein. However post workout casein just seemed hard to put down. I always stick with isolate and 5g Leucine.
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not 100% necessary unless lactose for the isolate. Food overlap and also BCAA overlap from intra-wrokout beverage or pre-workout meal.
 
USPlabsRep said:
With DMAA, not Aegeline, it's hurting...
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Jacobo Geissler that is from German origins? Cyrus that I think is Persian origin. I have pretty good on guessing origin of names. I have traced my famiglia back for generation on the ancestry.com Ben Carpenter sound to American should change it like to Ben Carpenshire
 
Touey said:
Jacobo Geissler that is from German origins? Cyrus that I think is Persian origin. I have pretty good on guessing origin of names. I have traced my famiglia back for generation on the ancestry.com Ben Carpenter sound to American should change it like to Ben Carpenshire
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Cyrus is not Persian lol.

Don't make the mistake I made of Googling his surname and making that assumption lol.
 
De__eB said:
50/50 casein/whey has been around for ages, Dave has been touting that ratio in UP for what a decade?

The only other thing to copy would be the pepform, and nobody who is copying products is going to splurge on proprietary licensed ingredients ;)

Open product information is good for everyone.

Shooting you a PM.
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I was thinking along the same lines when reading the initial posting, and the theme of "non-full-disclosure" due to fear of copycats....I don't particularly need to know everything and how it weighs out, but I thought it had been common knowledge for a decade or more that whey/casein blend = Better than either alone, and that whey is insulinogenic taken alone, Leucine is "good", etc. That being said, its still great that protein powders are evolving to include all this good stuff, and proper ratios, plus more. Random protein powders of yesteryear are like caveman protein now lol.
 
bdcc said:
Cyrus is not Persian lol.

Don't make the mistake I made of Googling his surname and making that assumption lol.
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no only to say the name I make guess for Persian origin
 
AnabolicHolic said:
I was thinking along the same lines when reading the initial posting, and the theme of "non-full-disclosure" due to fear of copycats....I don't particularly need to know everything and how it weighs out, but I thought it had been common knowledge for a decade or more that whey/casein blend = Better than either alone, and that whey is insolugenic taken alone, Leucine is "good", etc. That being said, its still great that protein powders are evolving to include all this good stuff, and proper ratios, plus more. Random protein powders of yesteryear are like caveman protein now lol.
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Going back 10 years ago people started doing it. There was not concrete proof of it yet. Most of the studies on the blend of whey and casein are done in the last few years, some of the best ones only being a few months old.

So it's sort of like the high leucine ratio BCAA story. We all know its better because it makes sense scientifically. But you get the guy who says "ooo but only 2:1:1 has been studied im gonna stick to my inferior stuff".

People said the exact same thing about combining whey and casein years ago, and drew up theories about how it could be worse. Then it was researched and the science spoke up showing how superior it is, as people with good protein knowledge expected it to be.

So while it has been done for a decade by people "in the know" and who understood protein, only recently has it been scientifically backed, and now commercially viable through SELECT Protein.

And it tastes amazing...
 
bdcc said:
Cyrus is not Persian lol.

Don't make the mistake I made of Googling his surname and making that assumption lol.
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Oh great. So SNS is run by terrorists.*






*fees for fake terrorist accusations considerably higher than product content slander.
 
nattydisaster said:
Going back 10 years ago people started doing it. There was not concrete proof of it yet. Most of the studies on the blend of whey and casein are done in the last few years, some of the best ones only being a few months old.

So it's sort of like the high leucine ratio BCAA story. We all know its better because it makes sense scientifically. But you get the guy who says "ooo but only 2:1:1 has been studied im gonna stick to my inferior stuff".

People said the exact same thing about combining whey and casein years ago, and drew up theories about how it could be worse. Then it was researched and the science spoke up showing how superior it is, as people with good protein knowledge expected it to be.

So while it has been done for a decade by people "in the know" and who understood protein, only recently has it been scientifically backed, and now commercially viable through SELECT Protein.

And it tastes amazing...
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This is true, there wasn't too much science to prove the claims back in the day. But as I said, I don't even care about the nitty gritty statistical specifics of how the weight of this and that figures out in the scoop.....and just because some of the ideas used have been known for a while (at least known by people in the know), it does not mean its not an innovative product. You guys put together all the best aspects of protein supplementation and aminos etc into one product, which is beneficial to the consumer. I'll try some next go round instead of whey isolate, which still tastes like shyt years and years later (ON version) lol :D
 
bioman said:
Oh great. So SNS is run by terrorists.*





*fees for fake terrorist accusations considerably higher than product content slander.
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I know only you joke but there are many good Persian just as there in all races
 
Touey said:
I know only you joke but there are many good Persian just as there in all races
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Dude, just watch the movie "300"..it's an historical documentary and pretty much sums up all Persians.



No it doesn't. Totally kidding.
 
bioman said:
Dude, just watch the movie "300"..it's an historical documentary and pretty much sums up all Persians.



No it doesn't. Totally kidding.
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Isn't Kim Kardashian a Persian? She's pretty hot, and has a big ass, which is good. I absolve them of any guilt for this reason only.
 
Come on guys who bought three flavours. Let me know what the deal is!
 
manstr said:
It's here! <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=93383"/>
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No need to brag! Mine isn't getting here till the 10th :(.
 
TeamMetal. said:
I don't know when mine will arrive. No shipping email yet. Didn't get a confirmation email either. Order says complete though.
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Complete? And no email? I'd contact natty or Ben and see what's going on. Chances are it's on a truck heading your way, and there was a snag in the email process.
 
manstr said:
Complete? And no email? I'd contact natty or Ben and see what's going on. Chances are it's on a truck heading your way, and there was a snag in the email process.
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I never got a shipping email either. I know mine is to arrive tomorrow though. How do I know that?. Just log in to your PES account, go to "My account", click on "view order" for the order you want. Then just scroll down a bit and click on "Track your order.".
 
manstr said:
Complete? And no email? I'd contact natty or Ben and see what's going on. Chances are it's on a truck heading your way, and there was a snag in the email process.
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Yeah no email. I just figured out how to track it on the PES site though. Says shipped, just no tracking info available yet.
 
TeamMetal. said:
Yeah no email. I just figured out how to track it on the PES site though. Says shipped, just no tracking info available yet.
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You have to copy and paste the tracking number and search google for it. Google will give you a link to track your package. Or with google chrome, just highlight the tracking number and click, "Search google for..." and the tracking number or what is highlighted.
 
Alright well I was planning on doing cookies and cream first but...
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Don't know how to embed on mobile.. Or desktop for that matter. But here's the first taste.
 
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