20% vs 95% forskolin

a case? lol
 
When using the 95% extracts i noticed no GI discomfort at all but when we messed around with the 20% extracts GI discomfort was a lot more common.
 
All i know when i was running Forskolin 95% at 75mg daily it were great! too bad it can't be taked year round , thinking about getting it up to 100mg daily.
never tried 20% though
 
Pop A Molly said:
All i know when i was running Forskolin 95% at 75mg daily it were great! too bad it can't be taked year round , thinking about getting it up to 100mg daily.
never tried 20% though
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Think I read nattyD saying taking it year round at 50mg...if I recall...
 
This is totally honest here:

I used to use 20% PF forskolin before SS had a 95%. I actually found that it ended up crushing my gains in the gym. I was weak, lethargic, and constantly hypotensive. The high dose of coleus forskohlii causes a secretory, cholera-esque diarrhea that can be ergolytic for many people.

In contrast, I've used up to 150mg SS Forskolin-95 with no GI issues, increases in strength/LBM, and loss of bodyfat. The "GI side effects" of low % forksolin are more than a simple inconvenience; they disrupt electrolyte/fluid balance in the body and can affect your strength negatively.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
This is totally honest here:

I used to use 20% PF forskolin before SS had a 95%. I actually found that it ended up crushing my gains in the gym. I was weak, lethargic, and constantly hypotensive. The high dose of coleus forskohlii causes a secretory, cholera-esque diarrhea that can be ergolytic for many people.

In contrast, I've used up to 150mg SS Forskolin-95 with no GI issues, increases in strength/LBM, and loss of bodyfat. The "GI side effects" of low % forksolin are more than a simple inconvenience; they disrupt electrolyte/fluid balance in the body and can affect your strength negatively.
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So this is meaning that coleus forskohlii has hypotensive properties independent of just its forskolin content, correct?
 
aaronuconn said:
So this is meaning that coleus forskohlii has hypotensive properties independent of just its forskolin content, correct?
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Negative. Secretory diarrhea results in chloride ion flux into the GI lumen, which releases an isotonic solution into the gut (and eventually out the anus). This draws directly from the ECF and loss of interstital ECF is also reflected in one of the sub-compartments: the plasma. This is a physical reduction in blood volume, not a vasodilation effect.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Negative. Secretory diarrhea results in chloride ion flux into the GI lumen, which releases an isotonic solution into the gut (and eventually out the anus). This draws directly from the ECF and loss of interstital ECF is also reflected in one of the sub-compartments: the plasma. This is a physical reduction in blood volume, not a vasodilation effect.
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Thank you, that makes more sense. I thought you were indicating that coleus forskohlii had to profound of an impact on lowering BP, independent of Forskolin's impact on BP.
 
Hmmm I have used Forskoliln 20% with no GI issue, but I'm wondering if it is negatively effecting my strength gains in the gym now. I am currently in a deficit with no real noticable strength loss (a little on bench but could be due to the weight loss).
 
For me it seems that a combination of potential GI disrupting ingredients give me problems. Standalone I'm cool but when I start combining too much crap together I have issues
 
How do you dose at 100mg? 50mg twice a day? Also, when stacking with dopa, do you take at the same time? I stocked up during the last Analyzed sale - primary goal is fat loss.
 
EBF Inc said:
But like anything your body will probably get used to it


But analyzed supps has it nice and cheap right now. Grab a case and run it
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True I would get GI issues for the first day or two on the old version of PCT Assist......oh course double dosing did not help either:p
 
Could the GI issue also be caused by the quality of the product? I'm using a 20%, but it's supplying it from Forslean (Sabinsa), and have had no issues with it.
 
nattydisaster said:
Read the hundreds of people who suffer from indigestion from lower % of extracts vs the number of people who dont from 95%

I dont know the contents of the other 80% of the extract to know what exactly is causing it
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Do you think it is possibly because 95%(just threw out #) of the companies used the lower % for years and very few have the higher percentage?
 
nattydisaster said:
Read the hundreds of people who suffer from indigestion from lower % of extracts vs the number of people who dont from 95%

I dont know the contents of the other 80% of the extract to know what exactly is causing it
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mw1 said:
Do you think it is possibly because 95%(just threw out #) of the companies used the lower % for years and very few have the higher percentage?
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No, studies in GI models show that several constituents of coleus forskohlii extrude chloride ions into the GI lumen. Water follows, creating a secretory diarrhea
 
mr.cooper69 said:
No, studies in GI models show that several constituents of coleus forskohlii extrude chloride ions into the GI lumen. Water follows, creating a secretory diarrhea
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My GI issues with Forskolin has never been diarrhea but cramping..extreme cramping for several hrs
 
mr.cooper69 said:
No, studies in GI models show that several constituents of coleus forskohlii extrude chloride ions into the GI lumen. Water follows, creating a secretory diarrhea
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I'm interested why it gives people diarrhea though as it also relaxes small intestinal smooth muscle. Wouldn't a delay in transit allow for re absorption of some of the secretions and counter that effect? Or would its spasmolytic properties not be that strong compared to the secretions it causes?
 
Why do people use Forskolin?
 
EBF Inc said:
Is the effects of it that much better when jumping from 50mg to 75mg?
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I feel so. I find 100mg to be my "sweet spot" from a price and effect stand point, but am playing around with ~150mg right now (due to the crazy deal AS had on F-95 recently).

I find 50mg is a solid and effective dose alongside other ingredients, while 100mg+ is very effective even pretty much standalone.
 
bolt10 said:
I feel so. I find 100mg to be my "sweet spot" from a price and effect stand point, but am playing around with ~150mg right now (due to the crazy deal AS had on F-95 recently).

I find 50mg is a solid and effective dose alongside other ingredients, while 100mg+ is very effective even pretty much standalone.
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Are you following my log ? I'm using it in my stack maybe ill bump it to 75? I got 2 bottles left

The skinny stack. Is the name of the log
 
Ya I've been following along in there. You got a sick combo of things going on. :D
 
50mg is sufficient, but if you have more than I'd say give 75 a shot. ;)
 
bolt10 said:
I feel so. I find 100mg to be my "sweet spot" from a price and effect stand point, but am playing around with ~150mg right now (due to the crazy deal AS had on F-95 recently).

I find 50mg is a solid and effective dose alongside other ingredients, while 100mg+ is very effective even pretty much standalone.
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I stick around 75 for me. I feel it works the best for my body. I was playing around with 50 first but it wasn't enough.i needed more. Then I bumped it up and man what a difference in everything. It really worked.
 
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