Supplements That Have Blown You Away

mr.cooper69 said:
I fixed it for you. Looks...non-compliant. I personally wouldn't use it. Sunifiram has a grand total of zero human trials. It has been used on longecity and many users reported irreversible cognitive issues
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That label has "bust us FDA" written all over it.
Adrafinil has some documented hepatotoxic effects and is purely a drug ( pro-drug to the prescription drug Modafanil/Provigil used mostly in narcoleptics). Putting that in there alone is shady business. Also 50mg is way below the pharmacological dose so you're not even getting the best bang for using it.
 
Interesting from a drug/nootropic angle. Though its basically a kitchen sink product of these compounds. If the compounds interest you realize they aren't dietary supplements by any measure and research thoroughly.
My feelings with things like that are to use them isolated way before mixing.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Unlike other racetams with human trials, sunifiram is neither a racetam nor is it proven safe in humans. There's rat data, but seeing as this is a research chem, I'd proceed with caution
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hell most new supps rely on rat studies ha
 
supps have come a long way since this thread.
amentoflavone (incredibe strength gains for me)
secretabridge (heals injuries in days)
ergonox (pumps and vascularity, strong carboydrate uptake into muscle cells)
c-o-p (strength)
burn24(fat loss even in the most stubborn areas on massive amounts of calories, carbs and junk food :)
 
HyperMax actually blew me away in terms of energy. I was not expecting it out of a pre but it exceeded my expectations. Suppwiththat also ranked it #1 Invalid Link Removed

AlphaMax has been getting nothing but positive reviews and people seem to love it
 
redman24 said:
supps have come a long way since this thread. amentoflavone (incredibe strength gains for me) secretabridge (heals injuries in days) ergonox (pumps and vascularity, strong carboydrate uptake into muscle cells) c-o-p (strength) burn24(fat loss even in the most stubborn areas on massive amounts of calories, carbs and junk food :)
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Burn24 really that great in your honest opinion?
Also, what is C-o-P?
I've got my staples covered:
Orange triad multi
Green Mag creatine
BCAAS (Xtend & purp Wraath & Compete)
Fish oil
High Volume(Amentoflavone)
Also Norcodrene. And cycle with GAT Jet Fuel

What recommendations? Got some AlphaMax saved up but it made me really irate.
 
i was a tester for the og aspire from pal, they sent us testers these plain brown pills, turns out they were double dosed....for you noobs-aspire was pulled because it had subtrates of sildenafil. powerful stuff, lol.

anyone else ever get better results from samples or tester logs than when later buying the product? the og stim fx sample packs were killer, better than bottles, imo. and when i test logged one companys product results were so amazing i thought it was spiked, bought it several times after logging it and never got those kind of results again.
 
I forgot about Aspire 36. That stuff was money. Of course the headaches sucked but talk about being the man of steel.
 
For protein: San raw fusion vanilla, damn it taste good
 
I should add E-Pharm Joint Spray. I've had several minor injuries from working out and this stuff seems to work pretty good IMO.
 
MTS is not amino spiked and I've met Lobliner and he's a good dude. The protein tastes good. I'm not concerned about the cholesterol content.
 
cumminslifter said:
you know dietary cholesterol has little to no impact on blood cholesterol levels
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Well, I had high cholestrol and after switching protien powder I went down to low normal... My protien during the hight cholestrol reading had 90mg per scoop which is ridicules, it's no reason any healthy protien powder should be that high in cholestrol!
 
alwaysfirst said:
Well, I had high cholestrol and after switching protien powder I went down to low normal... My protien during the hight cholestrol reading had 90mg per scoop which is ridicules, it's no reason any healthy protien powder should be that high in cholestrol!
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Guess eggs aren't healthy either.
 
alwaysfirst said:
Well, I had high cholestrol and after switching protien powder I went down to low normal... My protien during the hight cholestrol reading had 90mg per scoop which is ridicules, it's no reason any healthy protien powder should be that high in cholestrol!
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.......ya it was the protein lol
 
Rodja said:
Nobody said that, but what you're saying goes against actual scientific data regarding dietary cholesterol and serum cholesterol.
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I still don't think that protien powder with a "good profile" should have that much cholestrol.

PES Select have a "good profile" and have only 10 mg of cholestrol in every scoop.

A clean protien powder without fillers shouldn't be that high in cholestrol.

If you like that, it's fine, but I don't
 
alwaysfirst said:
I still don't think that protien powder with a "good profile" should have that much cholestrol. PES Select have a "good profile" and have only 10 mg of cholestrol in every scoop. A clean protien powder without fillers shouldn't be that high in cholestrol. If you like that, it's fine, but I don't
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I didn't realize cholesterol was a filler in protein powders. No retort to the egg comment?
 
Thinking that dietary cholesterol will effect blood cholesterol values is debunked,
And of course it is not added as a filler,

But ingredients containing cholesterol, such as creamers, are. Also the value is higher if the whey is not "skimmed" thoroughly.

IMO the number is of no relevance to product quality but in some cases indicates additives.

If you were buying a lean blend, or isolate, you would expect a lower value
 
rob112 said:
Doesn't whey concentrate naturally have cholesterol in it?
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Yessir, milk fats are relatively high sources of it, processing typically removed most, more so in products that are strained more (isolates and such)

The presence if cholesterol really says nothing for the quality of a whey unless it came from additives
 
Rodja said:
I didn't realize cholesterol was a filler in protein powders. No retort to the egg comment?
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Some fillers do contain cholesterol, why are you trying to be such a smart ass?! You're supposed to be one of the "smart guys" on AM, don't you have something better to do?!

What do you want me to say about eggs? I eat eggs if that's what you want to know, I do watch my cholesterol and eat food/supplements with a low cholesterol number FYI
 
Also as Rodja was mentioning, one of the healthiest (IMO) additions to your diet is whole eggs, which contain lots of cholesterol and as such were once (not long ago) demonized.

Since then multiple studies have shown it to have no effect on cholesterol, and if anything assists with dieting and weight loss efforts, which ultimately lower your cholesterol

Your body produces cholesterol, a caloric surplus and inactivity is the bigger demon with high cholesterol
 
alwaysfirst said:
Some fillers do contain cholesterol, why are you trying to be such a smart ass?! You're supposed to be one of the "smart guys" on AM, don't you have something better to do?! What do you want me to say about eggs? I eat eggs if that's what you want to know, I do watch my cholesterol and eat food/supplements with a low cholesterol number FYI
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My point is that you're spouting an archaic, Ornish-esque position regarding dietary cholesterol and serum cholesterol. Dietary cholesterol and saturated fats are not evil like they were once believed to be. The whole egg is called natures perfect protein for a reason.
 
Rodja said:
My point is that you're spouting an archaic, Ornish-esque position regarding dietary cholesterol and serum cholesterol. Dietary cholesterol and saturated fats are not evil like they were once believed to be. The whole egg is called natures perfect protein for a reason.
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You brought eggs up, I have no problems with eggs
 
alwaysfirst said:
You brought eggs up and wanted my comment on that for no reason.
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It's because a whole egg has far more dietary cholesterol in it than protein powder. I wanted to see what your position on the whole egg was in regards to cholesterol content. You implied that a high cholesterol content makes something a bad protein source.

Think about it this way: cholesterol is in a whole egg and whole milk because they're a vital nutrient for a growing/developing creature.
 
Rodja said:
It's because a whole egg has far more dietary cholesterol in it than protein powder. I wanted to see what your position on the whole egg was in regards to cholesterol content. You implied that a high cholesterol content makes something a bad protein source.

Think about it this way: cholesterol is in a whole egg and whole milk because they're a vital nutrient for a growing/developing creature.
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I didn't not "imply" that, I said that a good protien powder profile should not have that high cholestrol content and gave a good profile example of PES Select.
 
alwaysfirst said:
I didn't not "imply" that, I said that a good protien powder profile should not have that high cholestrol content and gave a good profile example of PES Select.
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Let me try this again: you said that your serum cholesterol was high due to overconsuming dietary cholesterol and specifically named your protein as the culprit. Not only does that go against the data we have concerning cholesterol, but that does give the implication that anything with a high cholesterol content becomes a bad source of protein. That is the reason I brought up the whole egg as it is very high in cholesterol especially per gram of protein.
 
Rodja said:
Let me try this again: you said that your serum cholesterol was high due to overconsuming dietary cholesterol and specifically named your protein as the culprit. Not only does that go against the data we have concerning cholesterol, but that does give the implication that anything with a high cholesterol content becomes a bad source of protein. That is the reason I brought up the whole egg as it is very high in cholesterol especially per gram of protein.
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which actually improves cholesterol levels
 
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