Mattrag and MankoOyaji's leanville quest with Mdrol/AH

Hey I am going to do HST and was wondering if anyone had exp on it? I have read most of the FAQs, just can't find anyone who actually got responses on the programming. I am already doing 5x5 so HST is like 5x5 with more rep ranges and focusing on just going up every workout with a deload to re sensitize the muscle to weights. Any help is good.

Next week is PCT... here is my PCT~~


Nolva
20/20/10/10

clomid
50/50/25/25

Ostarine

20/20/20/20/20

DAA

3/3/3/3/3

Erase pro

0/0/1/1/1/1

Glycobol 1 cap per meal.

Cabergolean

8/8/8/8/8

VidaTest
4/4/4/4/4

Yes my PCT is extensive... I also have ResV2 I can run. And I will be using beast mode when I get it. Until then it's craze and probably Hemoval in the AM for it's GDA effects.

Comments? Advice? I'm all ears.

I also have Torem (hehehe, but I wanna save it and use up all my older serms)
 
Two SERMs huh? I was going to do that at one time to see if it improved recovery, but didn't end up doing it. Definitely interested in how it works for you ;)
 
RickRock13 said:
Two SERMs huh? I was going to do that at one time to see if it improved recovery, but didn't end up doing it. Definitely interested in how it works for you ;)
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Any idea on if dosing one in the am and one in the pm is better?

Hmm...
 
Today's workout


Bench press

135x5
225x5
295x5
315x5 (pr tie)

Bent over row

135x15
155x15
245x12
295x10
315x10
335x10

Squat

135x10
195x10
225x10
245x10
265x10

Power clean

155x5

Bent over row (Yates grip)

185x15
225x10
225x10
225x10
225x10

Upright row

70x15
70x10

Ez bar curl/over head tri cep

70x15/70x15
70x15/70x15



Great pump today. No pre workout or mdrol. Must be the residual mdrol still in me lol. Another week of just androhard solo and I will run the awesome pct.
I'm not going to go for anymore prs unless I'm feelin extremely good. I will just shoot for matching the previous weeks weight and adding a rep. Then I will do hst. (kinda doing it now. Just really haphazard....)

Any ideas on dosing the serms? Am/pm. Together/apart?
 
mattrag said:
Any idea on if dosing one in the am and one in the pm is better?

Hmm...
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Since they both have very long half lives measured in days, I would say it makes no difference IMO
 
Where the andro hard being dosed at? I would mega dose right now if I were you ;)

Pct looks sick bro, should serve you well!
 
Yeah bro your going crazy. I remember when you were just getting back into it in late summer and stuff. Or early fall. Haha. Come along way. Man makes me wish I was running a lil something. A few more years for that though ;)


Bench is looking sick too man. Any idea on a 1rm
 
RickRock13 said:
Since they both have very long half lives measured in days, I would say it makes no difference IMO
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Thanks! Ill just take um at once then ;)

Onlychevy6 said:
Dang son. Putting up some good numbers.
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Haha, I wish I could put up more... nearing the end, gotta make sure I dont over do it in PCT...
Thanks for all your support man!

Onlychevy6 said:
Where the heck is manko is he slacking
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Him his GF and NOTABEAR went to Thailand for 2 weeks. Just got back on monday... We might see him make an appearance... lol

Sourdough said:
Where the andro hard being dosed at? I would mega dose right now if I were you ;)
Pct looks sick bro, should serve you well!
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I figure 8-9 a day is good. Seeing the new AH is supposedly AHv2 double dosed, I see no reason why I shouldnt be dosing it at 8-12 ;)
 
CountryLiftin said:
Yeah bro your going crazy. I remember when you were just getting back into it in late summer and stuff. Or early fall. Haha. Come along way. Man makes me wish I was running a lil something. A few more years for that though ;)


Bench is looking sick too man. Any idea on a 1rm
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Thanks! haha, yea i got a tad bit stronger since then ;)

My back has made leaps and bounds since I blew it out in late July. You got all the hormonal support you need in that young body ;)

Bench 1RM? Maybe if I went all out I could get 365? Or maybe 375? I dont plan on testing it anytime soon though lol.
 
Okay. So today is day two of JUST androhard. Noticed that my body feels pretty tired. After last nights workout I felt like I was dying. Slept a bit longer tonight (thought the night before I barely slept...first time in years have I had a night like that), woke up feeling pretty good.

After dosing the andohard and stuff and eating... Felt kinda nauseated. Donno why. Could be the weather. Or it could be that I am getting sick. I vaguely remember but after my last 6week cycle of hdrol I got sick during pct... And I tried to cut. Not cutting this time at least so I can get in some more food to help myself heal.

Today I think will be a rest day. It should be. Just some cardio. Maybe some pull ups and push ups.
 
Wouldn't hurt to throw in some creatine mono. I take my nolva right before bed just because I seem to get pretty irritable after I take it. Rest days aren't a bad thing, sometimes you just gotta take an unplanned one to let that body recover. I took a few during my 4 week cycle especially doing that heavy ass 5x5 routine. Get some rest so you can murder this PCT!
 
Diabolik said:
Wouldn't hurt to throw in some creatine mono. I take my nolva right before bed just because I seem to get pretty irritable after I take it. Rest days aren't a bad thing, sometimes you just gotta take an unplanned one to let that body recover. I took a few during my 4 week cycle especially doing that heavy ass 5x5 routine. Get some rest so you can murder this PCT!
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Ah. Yea. I have the creatine, bcaa, taurine, beta alanine, glutamine etc. :)

Yea. Well it's kinda a planned rest day as yesterday was pretty intense lol. And I should be doing one on one off training.
 
Your bench is absolutely sick bro. You've had some awesome strength increases through this cycle. ;)
 
RickRock13 said:
Your bench is absolutely sick bro. You've had some awesome strength increases through this cycle. ;)
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Yea. I think at 20mgs I am definitely feeling it. Or was. I'm gonna sum up the cycle in a couple of posts. Running andohard now at 2x dose till the end of the week. Just aiming to keep my weight the same while holding on to the strength. Gonna be a smooth transition into the 5s on the HST training pyramid. Then running a cycle of hst. Got the numbers and exercises set. It's gonna be a big year. :)
 
mattrag said:
Yea. I think at 20mgs I am definitely feeling it. Or was. I'm gonna sum up the cycle in a couple of posts. Running andohard now at 2x dose till the end of the week. Just aiming to keep my weight the same while holding on to the strength. Gonna be a smooth transition into the 5s on the HST training pyramid. Then running a cycle of hst. Got the numbers and exercises set. It's gonna be a big year. :)
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My sugar gliders are looking forward to the ostarine. They want to see how much it improves their gliding abilities.
 
mattrag said:
Yea. I think at 20mgs I am definitely feeling it. Or was. I'm gonna sum up the cycle in a couple of posts. Running andohard now at 2x dose till the end of the week. Just aiming to keep my weight the same while holding on to the strength. Gonna be a smooth transition into the 5s on the HST training pyramid. Then running a cycle of hst. Got the numbers and exercises set. It's gonna be a big year. :)
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amen to this statement, we are all gonna get facking ripped this year! Hopefully we all hit any goals plus, I know my goal last year is a few lbs back so I'm hoping for another good year.
 
bigdavid said:
My sugar gliders are looking forward to the ostarine. They want to see how much it improves their gliding abilities.
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Those gliders are gonna have a great time I think!
Haha.
 
LiveToLift said:
amen to this statement, we are all gonna get facking ripped this year! Hopefully we all hit any goals plus, I know my goal last year is a few lbs back so I'm hoping for another good year.
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Oh yes!! And look like gods!
 
Today's workout was great! Definitely still
Strong!!

Yates rows

135x15
225x8
315x5
315x5 drop set 225x10

Sumo squats
135x10
225x10
315x5
315x5 drop set 225x10

Bench press

135x15
225x10
315x5
315x5

Upright rows

70x15
70x15

Ez bar Bicep curl

70x15
90x5
90x5 drop set 21s @70lbs

CG bench

135x10
205x5
225x5
225x5 drop set 135x10

Lateral raises
Front/side /bent over

20x10/20x10/20x10

Matched prs for all my lifts and did 2 sets of them.
 
So tell me... before you moved to Japan... did you ever do Sumo squats or deads??? or was that a cultural influence??? LOL
 
Sourdough said:
So tell me... before you moved to Japan... did you ever do Sumo squats or deads??? or was that a cultural influence??? LOL
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Lmao. I have used both before.... But then again, I am 1/2 Japanese. Haha
 
ahhhhhh... that explains everything!!! LOL... just playin bro.

So did you speak any japanese growing up? how fluent is your japanese now?
 
Sourdough said:
ahhhhhh... that explains everything!!! LOL... just playin bro.

So did you speak any japanese growing up? how fluent is your japanese now?
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I was able to converse in Japanese before japan. But not well. Now many of my co workers forget I speak English at all lol.

My mom is 3rd generation Japanese. So she only knows a few words and phrases of Japanese.
 
mattrag said:
I was able to converse in Japanese before japan. But not well. Now many of my co workers forget I speak English at all lol.

My mom is 3rd generation Japanese. So she only knows a few words and phrases of Japanese.
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Thats cool man... I wish I could speak Japanese... Both my unlce and Cousin speak it fluently...
 
Workout this morning (My HST is AM/PM split but yesterday I got up late so I am moving the cycle up by a half a day...)

Standing military

45x20
135x8
175x5
175x5 drop set 135x10

T-bar rows

55x5
75x5
125x5
170x5
170x5

EZ bar tricep extention

70x5
70x5

Bent over row

205x10
315x5
315x5

SLDL
135x10
205x5
205x5

EZbar curl

70x15
90x5
90x5 drop set to 70 (21s)

15lbs shoulder laterals 2 sets of 10 reps.


Craze is great... only problem is it gives me insomnia.... Still pretty strong... Seeing last night I worked out pretty hard and didn't have a whole lot of food inbetween the workout at night and the morning workout. Started drinking Controlled labs Golden Feast. It's pretty dang good now that I figured I NEED to have it mixed it a bit more water. 14ozs for two scoops does the trick for me. Great stuff. Take this after I lift, then about 1.5hrs later I eat a pretty big meal. Weight is still hovering right at around 220lbs. 2 more days then I hit PCT :D
 
mattrag said:
Wow! Are they Japanese? or lived there for like the military or something?
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Well my Uncle and Dad grew up overseas, My Grandpa worked for the state department in the embassy's, so they were always moving around crazy places(Japan, Germany, france, Cambodia are a few of the places I can name that I remember)... THEN my Uncle went on his Mission to Japan for the LDS church.... Came back and works now with Japanese folks, I think he does translating and other business stuff, cant remember, but speaks japanese as part of his living.... then his son, my cousin, went on his mission to Japan as well!(not common at all for that to happen) and came back, did some work speaking japanese, married a japanese woman(who wound up not being the best I guess and got a divorce) then he was approached by the CIA and recruited... I cant tell you the rest or else Id have to kill you... or I guess he would, LOL... SERIOUS. (really, though we think hes a spy now)

Either way they both speak Japanese and the whole family has visited there multiple times, I think my Uncle regularly goes there too but works in D.C.
 
Sourdough said:
Well my Uncle and Dad grew up overseas, My Grandpa worked for the state department in the embassy's, so they were always moving around crazy places(Japan, Germany, france, Cambodia are a few of the places I can name that I remember)... THEN my Uncle went on his Mission to Japan for the LDS church.... Came back and works now with Japanese folks, I think he does translating and other business stuff, cant remember, but speaks japanese as part of his living.... then his son, my cousin, went on his mission to Japan as well!(not common at all for that to happen) and came back, did some work speaking japanese, married a japanese woman(who wound up not being the best I guess and got a divorce) then he was approached by the CIA and recruited... I cant tell you the rest or else Id have to kill you... or I guess he would, LOL... SERIOUS. (really, though we think hes a spy now)

Either way they both speak Japanese and the whole family has visited there multiple times, I think my Uncle regularly goes there too but works in D.C.
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Wow interesting story my friend. Didn't know you came from such a diverse family hehe.

Don't kill me.... I know you could... and I know you're on tren...
 
oh WHAT???

I JUST noticed the NTBM in your sig! congrats! when did that happen?
 
mattrag said:
I was able to converse in Japanese before japan. But not well. Now many of my co workers forget I speak English at all lol.

My mom is 3rd generation Japanese. So she only knows a few words and phrases of Japanese.
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You're lucky bro. Just moved to Japan with my wife and kids( but still work in Hawaii) and I can't speak a bit of Japanese. I just nod and smile like a moron half the time
 
Onlychevy6 said:
Yeah no kidding when did this happen
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Haha...I got him officially hired yesterday. We are happy to have him with us.
 
Sourdough said:
oh WHAT???

I JUST noticed the NTBM in your sig! congrats! when did that happen?
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Yesterday I believe? Thanks! NTBM has some pretty high quality extracted stuff. So pretty stoked to be on board with them.

Nickmort said:
You're lucky bro. Just moved to Japan with my wife and kids( but still work in Hawaii) and I can't speak a bit of Japanese. I just nod and smile like a moron half the time
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Oh man.. where are you currently located? And what brought on the move?
Smiling and nodding most times is okay in this country where most shady stuff... never happens (provided you arent in Akihabara, Ginza, or Shibuya...)

Onlychevy6 said:
Yeah no kidding when did this happen
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Yesterday heeh.

RickRock13 said:
Haha...I got him officially hired yesterday. We are happy to have him with us.
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Thanks Rick! Great team to be a part of!

Onlychevy6 said:
Sheesh. Well congrats brother man.
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Thanks Jeff!
 
Congrats Matt! I feel slightly offended that you didn't tell me in a pm :(
Lol just messin, but I remember talking about this with you recently.
Promo time???
 
Congrats to both you and NTBM! Just a month ago you weren't a rep now you have two great companies! Nice job man.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Congrats Matt! I feel slightly offended that you didn't tell me in a pm :(
Lol just messin, but I remember talking about this with you recently.
Promo time???
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FL3x I'm sorry. I will send you a bottle of black liver. And special golden shower mdrol excrete. Makes black liver 10x more
Effective.
 
LiveToLift said:
Congrats to both you and NTBM! Just a month ago you weren't a rep now you have two great companies! Nice job man.
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Haha! I found me a new home here at AM and I may as well do my best to help people reach there goals and be huge and lean! Motivation here is great, the community is superb and the fun times are plentiful.
Thanks guys!
:)
 
mattrag said:
Oh man.. where are you currently located? And what brought on the move?
Smiling and nodding most times is okay in this country where most shady stuff... never happens (provided you arent in Akihabara, Ginza, or Shibuya...)

Currently located in Sapporo. Moved here because wife is originally from here but my job keeps me in Hawaii for six months out of the year. And yeah it seems like smiling and nodding is working at the moment but going to have to hurry up and learn the language. I can tell you this though... gyms here re nothing like they are back home. More geared for the elderly here:(
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Congrats Matty!!!worked hard for this one bruv
 
Nickmort said:
mattrag said:
Oh man.. where are you currently located? And what brought on the move?
Smiling and nodding most times is okay in this country where most shady stuff... never happens (provided you arent in Akihabara, Ginza, or Shibuya...)

Currently located in Sapporo. Moved here because wife is originally from here but my job keeps me in Hawaii for six months out of the year. And yeah it seems like smiling and nodding is working at the moment but going to have to hurry up and learn the language. I can tell you this though... gyms here re nothing like they are back home. More geared for the elderly here:(
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Dude... I know what you mean.. I have a full on weight set in my house now. I have a 3 bedroom apartment which is ready to fall apart (actually a few friend's who live in the area have had their apts condemned already...mine is in no better condition..lol)
Do you like Japanese TV? Anime? Me and my brother actually learned/solidified the language by watching and translating anime lol. Granted our "slang" ain't very polite and anime is not really looked upon as a good hobby to have as an adult but hey... it works.

May seem weird but, as far as training you might wanna do some contracting stuff. Like immovable weights/structures and pull/pull for time/force. And for legs pull some sleds (through the snow even, seeing its so cold up there), and do some sprints ;)

btw, I'd never sprint or pull sleds through the snow... but I know that it is sound training lol, just not for me.


Nickmort said:
Oh and congrats on the NTBM repping. Been using their products for a little while and they are awesome!
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Yups, Im glad as I have quite a bit of experience in the department of supplements that include oral PHs, Natty Testboosters, pre workouts and the works. :D

runner_79 said:
Congrats Matty!!!worked hard for this one bruv
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Hehe, I am glad to be a part of a team that believes in their products and uses um!
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