(in the voice of Zeus)
MEGA MULTI-QUOTE!!! (bolts of lightening descend from above)
LOL! Thats funny...but IMOP, youd get more out of doubling Turk then stacking with ecdy..but if cost is a factor then stacking half the Turk with a affordable ecdy would be better than half the Turk alone..Thats my .02. cents worth.
This is also why I find E-Bol so frustrating..its good quality but low dose Turk "window dressed" with ginseng and other fluff..Id rather them take all that stuff out and triple dose the Turk.
Window dressed, I like that!
A while ago, I was always 101% dissuaded from purchasing E-Bol. I 'want' to like Thermo Life, because I believe they are a good solid company with an eye fixed on quality AND profits, as any respectable company should be... but NO WAY will I ever purchase a product 'window dressed' when True Turk exists in capsules. Thanks, as always, Johnnie Cold!
"but if cost is a factor"
IT IS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT FACTORS
IMO the 240 cap of Turk has a price point that is just not appealing.
Not appealing: True. Anabolically Appealing: YES! The balance between the two is what keeps me having the prospect of making the purchase swimming around in my mind. I know I will, eventually, for my PCT which will be this Summer in 2011
So... stay tuned everyone (but don't fog up your monitor screens, that's months away).
Maybe the other ingrediants work synergistically to maximize the effects of the ecdysterone?
So if thats the case it wouldnt matter thats its dosed lower, right?
Kinda like when you add caffeine to ephedrine to maximize ephedrine's fat loss effects in a way.....
Dunno......not a scientist here but I think it makes some wonderful broscience sense.
Broscience... both the antithesis
AND the foundational construct of productive discourse and dissection of nutraceuticals.
I've always wondered this myself... My all time favorite ecdy product is Mstak which has methoxy, ecdy and Turk along with other herb and aminos.
The only reason I'm a fervent believer in Methoxy, is ONLY (I used only twice to really emphasize it) because it was part of M-Stak, which I believe you share my sentiments that it was by far the best Ecdy product I have ever used (
although FREE REIGN is QUICKLY approaching the same level of notoriety in my mind)!
With adaptogens the longer the better they take some time while using them in the right environment aids too. Perhaps some Bioperin to improve uptake as well.
I always add in Bioperine, a well know Google generated ad-banner company produces the raw 10mg capsules of it
I have an entire
'systemic physiological amplification system' put into place that I have devised.
I understand. Its why I havent purchased yet, but whether its worth it depends on the results. Depending on whatever else youre taking, perhaps we can break even by stopping some of the other stuff temporarily..say...just take your mandatory staples like protein w/ Turk.
I just had this discussion with someone earlier today via PM... I communicated that I would gladly weed out and minimize the rest of my OTC collection, in order to make way and finances for True Turk or EcdyMorph 99% (what I'm on now).
I can procure, at any time, 1,000g of PURE EcdyMorph 99% Crystalline Extract....... for $1,300! Although it seems insane to spend the price of a brand new high powered 3D Laptop on a supplement powder,
that 1kg will last T-W-O Y-E-A-R-S at OVER 1G PER DAY! Think about
THAT.
Nope..sorry..but I do plan on purchasing in a few weeks. Theres only 2 companies supplying Turkesterone "Imported Directly From The Institute Of The Chemistry Of Plant Substances, Academy Of Sciences, Republic Of Uzbekistan". Thermolife and Tonvara. Since Tonvara is offering 100mg capsules as opposed to 20mg per dose in E-Bol, I know which way Im going. I tried other sources of Turk in the past and got nothing at all..not even megadosing. I firmly believe the ONLY 2 places to buy from other than a direct connection to the above mentioned chemisty plant is Thermolife and Tonvara.
I always enjoy your posts, thanks! Make sure, everyone, to only purchase from true Turk verified sources!!!!!!!!! There is a seller, especially on that well-known auction site, that sells the chinese bunk garbage!
Vitamin C increases the half life of ecdysterone by making urine more acidic which leads to re-absorption of the compounds in the intestines.
Hmmmm......... (in voice of Freud) "Very interesting"
this cant be true. if u want me to explain i will...
Edit to add: ill just explain anyways.
...theres literally no pathways. the majority of ur poop is just bacteria of the intestines such as e. coli and one that starts with an H, cant remember it.
^^i will make a good doctor in 2 years when i graduate, right?
DOH! Phew..... good thing I didn't splurge on that Vit-C
haha, thats a dangerous dose! ill give it to myself in a blast/cruise fashion and scare away my patients with my huge size. one of the guys at my gym does something with cancer therapy and hes the biggest guy ive seen in my life and has won a lot of BB competitions. id be afraid to be his patient if he was in a bad mood
Ohhhh c'mon..... 1g of Test/week ain't so bad. I mean, well I might even know a lad or two who have exceeded that common threshold, and lived to tell the tales 'round the campfire!
This thread is getting confusing LOL
I'm an ECD whore (love the stuff) but now, I have no clue WHICH direction to go down next.
1.
index
2.
Tonvara 100% Genuine Turkesterone From Uzbekistan (thanks JF
)
3. FREE REIGN by SDN (I hate proprietary blends
)
4. Sirovi HumanaTest (never heard of them so there's the trust factor)
5. LG ecdy(In general, they rock, but how do you all feel about their extract?)
LIL HELP DANG IT :spank:...........
I have never tried Turk.... that being said, I would, at this point in time, offer my very confident suggestion to pursue 99% EcdyMorph which is a HIGHLY standardized crystalline extract. As SOON as I gather better more complete perspective from personal trial on Turk, I will offer up my new insight of course.
My next purchase is going to be true Turk. If that helps at all. No one on here has used it so.... I'm gonna say fuc& it and buy it. Has Lg released their ecdy product?
It is strange to me, that there are so few who have tried True Turk, well at least on this forum that is. It is, QUITE EASILY, comfortably within my Top-3 OTC compounds (Ecdy in general, as I have not tried official True Turk). My guess, which I'm sure isn't too far off base, is that it lacks that hyped-up prevalent marketing whiz-bang strategy and 'exotic' feel with multi-syllable works and nomenclature... BUT that's just what appeals to me! The fact it is supported by so little, aside from my own REAL world endeavors, says a lot to me.
I read on another forum that these are the order of effectiveness.
Turkesterone
Ponasterone
ecdysterone
take that for whats its worth
Ohhhhhhh, thanks for throwing a monkey wrench into the whole situation! Just when we were making real progress, this guy shows up and tosses ole' Ponasterone into the mix. NO!!!