DreamWeaver
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Hey how yah been... :cheers:
Can't go wrong with Epi-Strong
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Hey how yah been... :cheers:
indysoccer16
Member
Hey Dream, I am not sure if someone said this or not and I don't get a lot of time to read on these forums so I figured I would toss this out there since I am on my 5th week with epi
I saw progress with 30 to 45mg day but once I went to 60mg a day I really saw results, big ones.
I dosed like this
30, 30, 45, 45, 60, 60
Dosed 2 at wake up, one before workout, one around 9pm
60mg I feel really is the sweet spot for this sup, and there are a couple other people no the board who agree, 60 as long as your joints are fine is really the place to be.
I saw progress with 30 to 45mg day but once I went to 60mg a day I really saw results, big ones.
I dosed like this
30, 30, 45, 45, 60, 60
Dosed 2 at wake up, one before workout, one around 9pm
60mg I feel really is the sweet spot for this sup, and there are a couple other people no the board who agree, 60 as long as your joints are fine is really the place to be.
RickRock13
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GoHardOrGoHme
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:wiggle:anxiously awaiting
BarbellBeast
Well-known member
Right on bro, 60mg is the sweet spot for most :cheers:
thundergod
Well-known member
just started 60 today myselfand 45 was good too
Have to agree with you guys on this one. I ran a cycle of Epi dosing it at 60 mgs. per day along with 30 mgs. of D-Bol for 6 weeks and it was the best oral-only cycle I ever ran.
This was also the last oral-only cycle I ran. Now everything gets an injectable Test base. The way it should be. :cool2:
Oral-only cycles have their place. It's just hard to solidify and keep the gains made on-cycle.
DreamWeaver
Legend
No I received it but this is my week off to rest up. I will start dosing late this week and training on Sunday.
I will feel this out, joints can be a bit of a problem at my age, I do have cissus though.
Soon, just 3 more days, hey I'm getting anxious as well. I ofen start my logs 5 or 6 days ahead to get advice on my plan. I am no expert when it comes to prohormones so I like to have my T's crossed.
DreamWeaver
Legend
:slomo:
A_I_Sports_Nutrition
AI Sports Nutrition
DreamWeaver
Legend
Hows about 60/60/60/60/60 all the way through?
lol yah I will ease into it and see what happens...
thundergod
Well-known member
2 more days. See post #58. :cheers:
A_I_Sports_Nutrition
AI Sports Nutrition
That is the best approach. I say that not only for Epi but alot of supps start off slow for a day or 2 to let the body adjust. More is not always better.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah October 22nd and I can hardly wait!!!!!
Hey if you're looking for a good bridge prodcut look up a product coming out called Phytoserms347, looks interesting. I tried to pester Needto to let me run it with my PCT... It's not out yet but imminent. If half the claims are true it will be amazing. I have been looking for some really kick ass Test booster to stack with Testopro and this seems to be a very nice fit.
Yah better safe than sorry in this case.
DreamWeaver
Legend
You and me both, I'm pretty stoked!!
Killerkanadia
Well-known member
Do you know where info is on phytoserm347? Doesn't seem to be any on the RL site.
DreamWeaver
Legend
PM sent...
Killerkanadia
Well-known member
Well... got me interested
DreamWeaver
Legend
Well... got me interested
Yah it's pretty wild... the uses for something like this are boundless.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Sorry about that, I just thought I would lay things out early as, like I said, I am not versed in cycling so I was expecting more adjustments to be made. Turns out I'd done my homework and everybody likes the cycle. Who knew, I'm a bit anal about such things. I'm no spring chicken and I have to be thorough where health may be at risk. Tomorrow is my first dose!!
Epi-strong 8am and 5pm with after meals and with fish oil
6 grams of fish oil ed (may increase to 9)
5 Super Cissus
2 scoops cycle support
1 multi
3 grams C
4 HghPro before bed
oufinny
Well-known member
Over planning done, check! Everybody ready to see DW crush it, check! Now get that dang Epi and start killing it DW!!!!!! :twak:
DreamWeaver
Legend
First thing Tomorrow...it's been hard for me not just start swollowing pills :sorry:
A_I_Sports_Nutrition
AI Sports Nutrition
The ride is about to begin!!!!!
antknee
Guest
dont mean to crash the thread but a few asked if i was gonna log my derma/epi run- i would but i have limited internet right now and it would be a waste to follow it..i will say ive been on 8 days and im up about 6lbs..i feel good but work threw me a curve with crap sched and my girl was in the ER two days ago so training and diet have been less than ideal. also had a random nosebleed this morning- prob dry air..
enjoy your ride man!
enjoy your ride man!
DreamWeaver
Legend
Thanks, feel free to post you're findings on this thread and we can complare notes... wow 6 pounds already, that means it kicks in pretty fuggin quick...
antknee
Guest
yeah id say so..although i was down a few lbs off normal being sick for about a week..you are MUCH more on target with diet than i am so im sure you are gonna have a good run..im noticing it first in my delts and arms, size wise, and im getting a bit more vascular as well..i did a close grip bench single the other day with 300lbs..i had been stuck at 290lbs for quite a while..
yeah, if you have no problem with it, ill post in from time to time to kinda compare with you..
yeah, if you have no problem with it, ill post in from time to time to kinda compare with you..
SouthernCharm
Well-known member
Looks like a good supp stack... Good to see you being smart with your health I think that there's nothing wrong with using anabolics as long as you take your health into consideration and you are definitely doing that. Best of luck to you bro.. I hope to see some PRs.. :cheers:
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah PR's will be based on how much I go up within the routine. For intance when I am doing 30 degree incline alt db curls with a drop set the max I have worked with was 40 lb db's cuz I am doing these inside a giant set so anything over that would be a PR. I am tried and true with this kind of routine and have run similar routines for years so I will know where the increases in strength are.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Sounds good, great close grip by the way. I don't ever do singles anymore but 245 for 5 would be about my limit.
antknee
Guest
Thanks man- i hit a hard 265x5 the other day and it was a really close grip due to a dinged up delt..im aiming for around 315 or so..if i can stay healthy, i think im good for it.
DreamWeaver
Legend
We'll see what happens when I get mid cycle. Actually most of my heavy lifting will done during PCT.
SouthernCharm
Well-known member
Did I mention I like the name you chose for your log? - "Can't go wrong with Epi-Strong!"
Has a nice ring to it! LOL
Has a nice ring to it! LOL
DreamWeaver
Legend
Thanks yah sounds like a commercial ..
MrKleen73
Legend
Very interesting can you PM me that info you sent KK?
Your natural way with words Sir...
FlexW99
Well-known member
No need to be sorry, I think I'm just as anxious to see you through this as u are. I'm ordering my cycle support so I too can get started! Will be watching daily DW!
RickRock13
Well-known member
Yeh I would definetely up the fish oil to 9g like you are thinking, maybe even more. That joint pain can suck especially when you hit the higher dosage. That Cissus should help you a lot though man. Good luck with everything. I'll try to keep an eye on your log when I can
DreamWeaver
Legend
Very interesting can you PM me that info you sent KK?
Your natural way with words Sir...
PM Sent..
You know I don't always speak as eloquently as I write. When I have a little extra time to think I am much better at communicating.
Just glad to have your support, you'll love the cycle support. Takes care of business.
Yeh I would definetely up the fish oil to 9g like you are thinking, maybe even more. That joint pain can suck especially when you hit the higher dosage. That Cissus should help you a lot though man. Good luck with everything. I'll try to keep an eye on your log when I can
Yah I think I'll do that have to stock up at Costco... thanks for stopping by...
DreamWeaver
Legend
It has begun!! Nothing to report yet. One thing about Cissus though, it seems to be giving me some euphoric energy which is strange cuz I didn't know there was anything in it that could do that.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Hey guys don't know why I didn't think of this before, any advantage to running Testopro during cycle as people do with HCGenerate? The products do have similarities.
A_I_Sports_Nutrition
AI Sports Nutrition
The Epi kicks in pretty quick. H-drol on the other hand really does not kick in till about week 3.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Good to know, I like the quick kick :13:
A_I_Sports_Nutrition
AI Sports Nutrition
LMAO!!!
Killerkanadia
Well-known member
DreamWeaver
Legend
Only one way to find out
Ok that being said I will run it with my cycle 2 pills twice ed and then bump it up during PCT to 3 X 2 ed..