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Go easy on the Yo until ya know!

Ed, go easy on the Yo until you have tested it. It can turn your stomach sometimes, especially the first dose or two. If it bothers you a bit try taking with a little fat of some sort and it may not be too bad. Now I can take it without any issue but at first it was a litle work and I am stim junkie. It just has the ability to make you queazy more so than over stimmed if you are sensitive to it but it goes away as your body gets used to it.
 
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My next request, sir, is a 400+ pound bench press.
 
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start with .4ml of the helios....trust me its strong as sh!t
 
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start with .4ml of the helios....trust me its strong as sh!t
sounds good mate, thx.

Helios
Clenbuterol HCL: 40mcg/ml and Yohimbine HCL: 5.4mg/ml.

so 0.4ml it is commencing after the oral phase of this cycle

and Ill be a keeping a close eye on the BP
 
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My next request, sir, is a 400+ pound bench press.
Ok so i think i need to be 345 x 6 and its game time

Next chest session Wednesday see how 345 goes and play by ear

Ill nail it within the said 30 days.... I got 10 more days to go :)

Definitely forgoing some strength with the recomp but it has to be done, I bulked up built a base now its time to get lean and mean and stay that way

The only way is up :)

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24 weeks total and ur only 20 days in... were at pg. 10 in this epic adventure!! Glad I started reading this from day 1. Haha this mofo is gunna be like 80 pgs!!
 

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Wow 24 weeks that makes me jealous. I'm toying with the idea of extending my cycle to 12 weeks.......
 
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epi/tren 40/120mg ED
Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 500mg EW

Weight 231.4 + 6.4lb
Waist
BP

Yesterday i got a butal 70 minutes of legs done. Was seeing stars on couple of accasions, felt awesome.

Yesterday was a low carb day and weight remains constant, i literally feel as though the fat is melting away, constantly sweating. Im getting some crazy tren night sweats as well.

Abs still not visible :( but i can feel them :) i will be continuing a full on ab attack in an effort to bring them to the surface, multiple sets of weighted cable crunches to failure.

So plan for today is
40 mins Abs
70 mins back
40 mins bis
Cardio if possible

This was a bit ambitious
Actually did
30 mins Abs
60 mins back
40 mins bis
0 mins Cardio

This was broken into AM back PM bis/abs and i adjusted carbs to reflect that with one extra meal total of 8


Diet - dont try and fix it if it aint broken (thx Mcleen) Keep on truckin

Ill edit in any noteable PR's later today, definitely feel i am forgoing some strength in my quest for recomp but hell i aint going no where and im in this for the long haul :)

Ok... Time to shut up and just do it

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Couple points/questions/concerns....

70 mins of legs seems more of a big lift day (IMO), so low carb may not be the best option (?). Guess we'll see how you feel the next couple days. I know for me when I do legs, if I'm doing any type of carb specific diet (AD, CKD, etc) I use my higher carbs days on leg day.

For today.....I see that you have over 2 hours of workout time already planned, plus cardio? Seems like quite a bit of time IMO, especially with a recomp/lower cal diet that you are doing. You are know your body much better than me or anyone else, so Im sure you are able to read on how much is too much, just my 2 cc's.

Also, if you dont mind, any chance you could breakdown your meal schedule for low carb days such as yesterday, and a regular day? (if you havent already, just dont remember reading it). Or if you would rather PM it to me that would be great. Just curious to see what your intake is. I know you said its working great so far, thats why I am interested.

Thanks brotha :)
 
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Man...much respect for your progress so far. But I honestly think you are seriously overtraining.

Case in point:
So plan for today is
40 mins Abs
70 mins back
40 mins bis
Cardio if possible


I don't see how your body has the chance to respond. Remember that rest is as important a part of the equation as exercise and nutrition.

Also at this level, where do you go from there to increase intensity?

Don't get me wrong as I think your dedication is unreal, but just remember this is for the long haul. I think of the Tortoise and the Hare in that aspect.
 

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There were two bulls up on a hill, one old and one young. They were looking down on all the heifers and the young one said "let's run down there and f*** one of those cows". The old wise bull said "let's just walk down and f*** em' all".
 

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looks great ,only question would be on frontloading but other than that very good,btw you have made fantastic progress be proud . needles are in my mind the only way to go and i hate them but it is worth it
 
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Man...much respect for your progress so far. But I honestly think you are seriously overtraining.

Case in point:
So plan for today is
40 mins Abs
70 mins back
40 mins bis
Cardio if possible


I don't see how your body has the chance to respond. Remember that rest is as important a part of the equation as exercise and nutrition.

Also at this level, where do you go from there to increase intensity?

Don't get me wrong as I think your dedication is unreal, but just remember this is for the long haul. I think of the Tortoise and the Hare in that aspect.
I agree but I said from the start I would go balls to the wall for the 1st 30 days (the oral phase) the epi/tten combo has amazing recomp abilities. I will be dropping to a more traditional 4/5 days a week after this leg ;)
 
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Couple points/questions/concerns....

70 mins of legs seems more of a big lift day (IMO), so low carb may not be the best option (?). Guess we'll see how you feel the next couple days. I know for me when I do legs, if I'm doing any type of carb specific diet (AD, CKD, etc) I use my higher carbs days on leg day.

For today.....I see that you have over 2 hours of workout time already planned, plus cardio? Seems like quite a bit of time IMO, especially with a recomp/lower cal diet that you are doing. You are know your body much better than me or anyone else, so Im sure you are able to read on how much is too much, just my 2 cc's.

Also, if you dont mind, any chance you could breakdown your meal schedule for low carb days such as yesterday, and a regular day? (if you havent already, just dont remember reading it). Or if you would rather PM it to me that would be great. Just curious to see what your intake is. I know you said its working great so far, thats why I am interested.

Thanks brotha :)
NP. Id normally have more carbs on leg day but just wanna shed this last few pounds and I'm not looking to build huge wheels, would not have gone so low on chest or back day.
My macros are 60 20 20 for the week but it will vary on a day to day basis and as you will see mostly high quality fats

Anway yesterday

Meal 1 6.30am
4 whole omega 3 eggs 8 eggs whites
2 cups raw

Meal 2 9am pre WO
One cup egg whites 1 scoop ispoure (zero carb 25g protein)
I banana 1/2 cups of oats approx 50g carbs

Meal 3 11am post WO
2 sccoops isopure
1/2 scoop waxymaize + banana approx 50g carbs

Meal 4 12.15pm Post post
1/2 of flank steak and some salad carbs were cut here

Meal 5 3.15pm
4 omega 3 eggs 10 eggs whites
Total 2 cups raw

Meal 6 6.45pm
1/2lb Tuna Steak and asparagus

Meal 7 11pm
4 omega 3 eggs 8 egg whites
2 cups raw

Suplemented into this i added 8g of fish oil and 8g CLA distributed throughout the day

So majority of my carbs are centered around my WO. Normall 50 50 50 yesterday was 50 50 0. When i get where i want in terms of bf ill adjust that to 90 120 50 to really maximize my anabolic window

As far as energy goes feel fine.

Ill post todays meal plan up later
Carbs will do more like 60 60 50 today as you noted got long WO planned

Today
Meal 1 6.30am pre WO
1/banana 1 1/2 cups oats 1 cup milk 1 scoop isopure 1 cup egg whites
About 60g protein 60g carbs 0 fat

Meal 2 8.30am Post WO
2 scoops isopure 1/2 cup waxymaise 1 banana
50g p, 50g c, 0g f


And i know i prob could have had my bench up 50-60lbs by now and blown through that 400lb lift i want so bad, if id eaten bigger but the plan was recomp for the oral section and i cant argue with bench +35lb weight +6.4lbs waist -1.6
Thats increased strength with additional muscle mass whilst reducing BF

Had conversation with Mckleen re this and he told me and i quote him

"If you aren't feeling low energy though I would keep doing exactly what you are doing now. It is working well for you right now, let it continue until progress slows. Consistency will be what tell you the tale of how a diet treats you. Change it up all the time you won't know if it is the diet or the chaos you create making your body respond."
 
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Wow, thats as solid as it comes to diet.

Love the fact that you are utilizing alot of our friend the egg :). Great source their ;)
 
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looks great ,only question would be on frontloading but other than that very good,btw you have made fantastic progress be proud . needles are in my mind the only way to go and i hate them but it is worth it
Yea front-loading

i wasnt to sure about this one either

but i figured to harm no foull and a very knowledgeable vet advised this
 
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Wow, thats as solid as it comes to diet.

Love the fact that you are utilizing alot of our friend the egg :). Great source their ;)
my wife thinks im insane

im cracking eggs morning noon and night quite literally
 
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Just checkin' in broski. Glad to see things are working out nicely. I just kicked off yesterday myself. Should be interesting...
 
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Day 22

epi/tren 40/120mg ED
Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 500mg EW

Weight 231.6 + 6.6lb
Waist -2.0" :)
BP

Forgot to take Proviron last night so had 50mg @ 6.30am

Off to Docs thid morn pick up prescription inj TRT :)

Then carb up and see if ive got anything extra in the tank re chest. Will 400 fall today @ a guess id have to say no, 345 x 6 is the magic number

2.0" off of my waist in 21 days I am stoked with that :)

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Day 22

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Test E 500mg EW

Weight 231.6 + 6.6lb
Waist -2.0" :)
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Forgot to take Proviron last night so had 50mg @ 6.30am

Off to Docs thid morn pick up prescription inj TRT :)

Then carb up and see if ive got anything extra in the tank re chest. Will 400 fall today @ a guess id have to say no, 345 x 6 is the magic number

2.0" off of my waist in 21 days I am stoked with that :)
Rock on brutha!
 
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Good news

Doctor switched me off those damn patches and prescribed Test Cyp. Thats so good on so many fronts

1) Can preload and travel with gear :)
2) can start to educate the wife and get closer to acceptance
3) In the mean time legitimizes any Drug Paraphernalia :)

Chest
i figured out a way to set up a safety mechanism exactly 1/2" lower than my chest so that i could lift in full confidence without have to worry about a spotter.

And it was a huge confidence booster.. Exhilarating WO :)
I did more sets and more reps than ever before... Id say im at or very close to that 400lb lift. I decided not to attempt it and heres the game plan for that lift

In 2 chest sessions time, Day 30 of this cycle and last day of the epi/tren 40/120mg
Warm up for 10 minutes with 135lb
1 x 5 x 225
1 x 5 x 315
1 x 1 x 365
1 x 1 x 385
1 x 1 x 400

Well thats the plan anyway.... Think it would have been close today and should be a foregone conclusion in 8 days time

And i ate for size today
pre WO 60g P, 70g C, 0g F
post WO 50g P, 90g C, 0g F
Post post 55g P, 50g C, 23g F
Fats were all 18g Omega 3, 5g CLA

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Ok so i just got doctor precribed Test cyp and my insurance doesnt cover

Rite Aide is $99 for

Test cyp 200mg/ml 10ml vial

Anyone have suggestion where i can get precription filled for the best price?

Maybe an online pharmacy? Any suggestions?

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Ok so i just got doctor precribed Test cyp and my insurance doesnt cover

Rite Aide is $99 for

Test cyp 200mg/ml 10ml vial

Anyone have suggestion where i can get precription filled for the best price?

Maybe an online pharmacy? Any suggestions?
Hey bud, I am a health ins. agent.

Why is your plan not covering it? Do they exclude prescriptions? If not it seems rather bizarre to have doctor prescribed TRT declined unless it was labeled a preexisiting.
 

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To bad they won't cover it but that's not a bad price for pharm grade T. I'm sure many of us would trade places with ya on that deal.
 
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Question: How much did this cycle run you?

Answer: It's nothing when you own FHM and Maxim.

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Lets see some business gettin done.
 
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To bad they won't cover it but that's not a bad price for pharm grade T. I'm sure many of us would trade places with ya on that deal.
Lol. Y. I spoke with ins and if doc calls them they will most likely pay :)

I like my doctor a whole lot
 
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Question: How much did this cycle run you?

Answer: It's nothing when you own FHM and Maxim.

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Lets see some business gettin done.
:)

I went to the Maxim superbowl party on Miami ;) ill just say RIDICULOUS
 

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+6.6lbs!!!! nice dude you'll get that 400 lb. lift I know it. Give it a week. That's sweet you got the script. How much are you "supposed" to take a week per doctors orders?

Oh yea, Ed how's your appetite man? I have been RAVENOUS and it's only day 8! I ate a 1.1 lb porterhouse, a baked potato, and a salad and I wasn't EVEN FULL. normal?
 
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+6.6lbs!!!! nice dude you'll get that 400 lb. lift I know it. Give it a week. That's sweet you got the script. How much are you "supposed" to take a week per doctors orders?

Oh yea, Ed how's your appetite man? I have been RAVENOUS and it's only day 8! I ate a 1.1 lb porterhouse, a baked potato, and a salad and I wasn't EVEN FULL. normal?
Yea ravenous but I'm keeping my meals to 7 a day 50-60g P. Recomp is a biitch
 
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Day 23

epi/tren 40/120mg ED
Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 500mg EW

Weight 231.2 + 6.2lb
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250mg left delt

Shoulders/tris/abs Supersets 70 mins
Good strong WO
Low carb day

Sill no sides to report inj dont hurt at all at this point. Sides are just night sweats from the tren so all in all a great success so far

No real cardio today but will get an hour of light cycling in later

Diet does not waver,its like 2nd nature at this point dont even have to think about it, im like a machine
 

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Test E 500mg EW

Weight 231.2 + 6.2lb
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250mg left delt

Shoulders/tris/abs Supersets 70 mins
Good strong WO
Low carb day

Sill no sides to report inj dont hurt at all at this point. Sides are just night sweats from the tren so all in all a great success so far

No real cardio today but will get an hour of light cycling in later

Diet does not waver,its like 2nd nature at this point dont even have to think about it, im like a machine
Don't you love that feeling whne you get your diet dialed in and you just stick to it. Getting the diet on track is the most rewarding part of the whole experience, especially when on cycle and your body seems to react so quickly to the changes and efforts you put into your diet, really makes the rewards worth it.

for me i noticed proviron massively increases my appetite despite not being all that anabolic, maybe its just from freeing up the extra test?

Maybe this time around you'll realize that diet/training being lined up matter more than gear! No offense, we all gotta learn somehow.
 
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Don't you love that feeling whne you get your diet dialed in and you just stick to it. Getting the diet on track is the most rewarding part of the whole experience, especially when on cycle and your body seems to react so quickly to the changes and efforts you put into your diet, really makes the rewards worth it.

for me i noticed proviron massively increases my appetite despite not being all that anabolic, maybe its just from freeing up the extra test?

Maybe this time around you'll realize that diet/training being lined up matter more than gear! No offense, we all gotta learn somehow.
I've never unerestimated diet and training. Infact peroonally I think of the two diet is more omportant than training and by far the hardest.

So far in this journey I've taken myself from 175 to 255 and I have to tell you I wasn't sitting at home on the xcouch eating piza. I was cooking whole foods and eating every 2 hours for 11 months and it wasn't fun and I was only on cycle for a total of 2 months.

Then come January, I re adjusted my diet and acrdio in such a way to loose weight but not muscle that was 2 months on the ECA stack with a very discaplined diet. Then cam 6 weeks of Clen/VAR with the same dialed in diet

That leads us upto this current cycle. Starting out I felt at this point I had gotten to know my body so well that I really was on autopilot as far as diet is comcerned. I could tweak carbs and cardio on a daily basis to speed up or slow down the process according to my goal.

Its an amazing feeling haveing that amount of control, I don't have to write any of this down anymore, I know exactly Kals protein carbs and fats off the top of my head and iif I go a couple of days with no/wrong results I know exactly what and where to tweak

I know how certain carbs effect me I know how timing of carbs effect me I know how a 40 min bike ride will effect me, fats etc

One other thing I know is that I'm damn hungry most of the time, looking fwd to being done with recomp and adding 400-500 kals for lean bulk

:)
 
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Day 24

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Weight 231.6 + 6..6lb
Waist -2.2" :)
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Day 25

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Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 500mg EW

Weight 231 + 6lb
Waist -2.65" :)
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As you can see ive jacked the epi/tren up for the last few days.

Yesterday i took a day off from training, had a very phsically active day. I love how my body is able to tolerate the low carbs and still have plenty of energy, total of 52g carbs yesterday.

I thought in light of all your help in the last year id share a nutritional trick :) Ohh and Irish Cannon inspired this culinary delight. I shall name this video

Iron Chef Witt :) this is the low carb version
Continue with extreme caution

58g Protein 28g fat no carb version, oats and a banana for a carb up



And a special thanks to the film crew (my 10yr old son)
 
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Wow I popped in for a great vid. Fear Factor anyone??? I was watching going please tell me that is gonna be an omelet.

Great progress Bro!
 

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didn't know you were a Brit! that looks disgusting, you couldn't pay me to drink that lol.
WOOOOOOO YEEEE HOOOOO!!!!
 
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didn't know you were an aussie! that looks disgusting, you couldn't pay me to drink that lol.
WOOOOOOO YEEEE HOOOOO!!!!
British mate :)

I gotta work on getting the consistency right, that octopus tentacle at the end was a bit traumatizing.

All good fun tho
 
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Well the last 2 days i have taken a bit of a break from lifting there has been plenty of outdoor activities of course extra curicular activities

Ive kept the carbs extremely low and the waist continues to melt away, today i also upped the epi and tren 50/150mg and will be attacking the gym full out and well rested tomorow afternoon and right through to the end of the oral phase with a 405lb bench day 30 :)



I definitely have a feeling of confidence, strength and overall feeling of well being very ALPHA, libido is ridiculous just wanna nail everything in sight all the time:) Missus is well happy

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Edwitt,

Why not just cook all those ingredients? An omelet sounds good like Kleen suggested. I would stop worrying about your injection site. People receive IM shots all day long and don't have any sides from it. The pain that you feel is more associated with the viscosity of the substance you are injecting. For instance a flu shot doesnt hurt at all while a Tetanus shot kills for days. You will get better with needles with time. Swipe with alcohol, stick, draw back for blood, and then push the plunger. If you dont like the Delt you can always use an alternative site, which IMO is just as good. The buttocks and thigh are some of those other spots. The buttocks requires a slightly longer needle to hit muscle and not subcutaneous fat. People will argue each site but IMO its really going to absorb the same way into the blood stream whether its deltoid, thigh, or buttock.
 
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Edwitt my man, that video was cool, but I don't know how the hell you are drinking that down. I would probably say cook it if you want those ingredients. If you wont, then I would say at least invest in a food processor that will blend/liquify the ingredients better. But man, I have followed your crazy transformation, use of anabolic substances, but I have never realized how hard core/dedicated/CRAZY you are. Cheers man.
 
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Ya u have to find a better way to chop that squid up lol.
 
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Edwitt,

Why not just cook all those ingredients? An omelet sounds good like Kleen suggested. I would stop worrying about your injection site. People receive IM shots all day long and don't have any sides from it. The pain that you feel is more associated with the viscosity of the substance you are injecting. For instance a flu shot doesnt hurt at all while a Tetanus shot kills for days. You will get better with needles with time. Swipe with alcohol, stick, draw back for blood, and then push the plunger. If you dont like the Delt you can always use an alternative site, which IMO is just as good. The buttocks and thigh are some of those other spots. The buttocks requires a slightly longer needle to hit muscle and not subcutaneous fat. People will argue each site but IMO its really going to absorb the same way into the blood stream whether its deltoid, thigh, or buttock.
Injectipns are going great mate no pain at all. As im only inj 2 times a week I'm rotatigg the delts and its been a breeze from day one. I draw and shoot with a 1" 23g np at all. Never had any pain, one time dodnt make sure the pin was secured properly and it fell off but since then is has been plain sailing ;)
 
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Test E 500mg EW

Weight 231.4 +6.4
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Woke up this morn with a sore throat :( other than that i feel well rested for my 2 days off and excited to hit gym hard on my new increased dose. Fingers crossed this sore throat is nothing else. Gonna take a swig of Niquil and try ang get another hour of sleep. Meal 1 down the hatch raw eggs and fish roe

Back/Bis
 
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Weight 231.4 +6.4
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Woke up this morn with a sore throat :( other than that i feel well rested for my 2 days off and excited to hit gym hard on my new increased dose. Fingers crossed this sore throat is nothing else. Gonna take a swig of Niquil and try ang get another hour of sleep. Meal 1 down the hatch raw eggs and fish roe

Back/Bis
Edwitt,
Be careful that you arent getting test flu. Sore throat is one of the ways it can start. Up your carbs and water immediately so that you can fix it if it is test flu. You can ruin a good cycle by not realizing its test flu vs. common cold.
 
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Edwitt,
Be careful that you arent getting test flu. Sore throat is one of the ways it can start. Up your carbs and water immediately so that you can fix it if it is test flu. You can ruin a good cycle by not realizing its test flu vs. common cold.
My son is staying with me this weekend and he has a cold so hoping it that...

How do i differentiate between Test Flu and how do i combat it?

PS upped the fluids regardless also today and tom are carb up days anyway

Thx
 

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a natural defense mechanism - to the sudden increase in exogenous hormone levels. Its the body's way of trying to "flush" out the foreign entity it perceives is there (just as it does w/ a flu virus). There has also been some connection between high BA content and immune response. think the combination of sudden increased hormone levels and a foreign substance being injected into the muscle can cause these symptoms. Some people are sensitive, some arent. Certain people don’t experience it at all and some might just get mild chills (low grade fever) or a runny nose for a few days and not even take much note of it.

etiocholanolone represents only about 20% of the metabolites of testosterone in people. Maybe folks who experience this reaction to testosteone have particularly high levels of 17 beta hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase, the enzyme that converts testosterone into etiocholanolone. Or an isoform of the enzyme that makes the conversion more efficient.

Etiocholanolone is believed to produce fever and flu-like aches and pains because it induces the systemic release of Interleukin-1, a powerful proinflammatory cytokine:

Pyrogenicity of etiocholanolone and interleukin-1 in New and Old World Monkeys.

Steinetz BG, Randolph C, Werner R, Mahoney CJ.

New York University Medical Center, Laboratory for Experimental Medicine and Surgery in Primates, Tuxedo 10987, USA. [email protected]

Etiocholanolone (5beta-androstan-3alpha-ol-17-one; designated E) is one of the major products of metabolism of testosterone and androstenedione (androst-4-ene-3,17-dione) in many mammalian species, including humans. E and several other 5beta-reduced steroids have been found to induce fever in humans. The pyrogenic effect of these steroids has been shown to be due to the release of interleukin-1 (IL-1) from the leukocytes that are mobilized in response to the steroid injections. Old World Monkeys such as Rhesus monkeys (Macaca mu/atta), metabolize androgens similarly to humans, and E is a normal metabolite. However, New World Monkeys such as Squirrel monkeys (Saimiri sciureus), lack hepatic 5alpha- and 5beta-steroid reductases and excrete androgens primarily in an unaltered state; E is not produced. Therefore, we postulate that Squirrel monkeys likewise may have lost the ability to respond to 17-ketosteroids such as E. To test this hypothesis, adult male Rhesus and Squirrel monkeys were treated with E, and their rectal temperatures were recorded over a 24-hr period. Rhesus monkeys exhibited a rise of up to 3 degrees F following E injection. Squirrel monkeys, on the other hand, did not exhibit any increase in rectal temperature over the 24-hr period, even when doses up to 250 times the effective human dose were used. However, both species responded to injected IL-1alpha with a robust increase in rectal temperature. The data show that E is pyrogenic in Rhesus, but not Squirrel monkeys. The findings support the notion that injected E may induce release of IL-1 in Rhesus monkeys, but not in Squirrel monkeys

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