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PreMax - The most effective pre-workout performance drink!

Primordial Perf said:
Yes, that is right.

You have to consider that people will spend 3 or 4 bucks on a **** monster energy drink or coffee frizalatte, so $5 for a serving of a well rounded performance beverage isn't too crazy.

Plus, if you are looking to get the most cost benefit out of this product, we recommend you use it during your hardest workout days, which could make a container last over a month. (at 2-3 workouts per week)

-Eric
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Thats a good point
 
djbombsquad said:
Price is not expensive when you think about it. They are putting a clinical does of GPLC they are putting peptopro at 11 grams thats pretty high up there. It is like a jacked type of product just a few ingreadients.
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Yea. They coulda went with some shabby prop blend and left everyone guessing and put 100mg of GlycoCarn in there...but the went the honest, full dose route. Props on that:cheers:
 
Trauma1 said:
Hey guys. First off, I can certainly understand the concerns that some of you have with the price of the product. The utmost goal with all of our products is to provide a high quality product, with the scientific evidence to back the specific ingredient profile. Our PreMax formula contains dosing that has shown in research to be clinically significant/effective. I know that many of you may have tight budgets finacially (especially with this current economy), so I can understand your voiced concerns. Our profit margin with a product of this nature is very slim to say the least. The ingredient profile makes this a bit pricey, but I can also attest that it contains top of the line ingredients. We're very dedicated and focused on providing the most effective product formulations that we can; some may be more expensive than others, but we're not going to make a half-azz products.

I really don't recommend cutting the dose in half for those that want to stretch it out. We've specifically formulated this to have each serving on par with what's been determined a clinically significant and effective dose. I would recommend using this only 3 x weekly (on your heavy workout days) if you'd want to stretch it out a bit. That should give you a solid 3 weeks with each individual container.

You never know when we'll have a sale or coupon code, so I'll keep you all updated when/If that happens in the near future. If any of you have any specific questions, I'd be glad to help you out.

As always, we thank you ALL for your incredible support of Primordial Performance!! :cheers:
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No problem brother. Quality over Quantity anyday. It is refreshing though to see a company actually take the opposite route of...oh say MuscleTech and provide a detailed ingredient profile and a thorough product. Goodluck with this guys.
 
Quality over quanity is the general rule of thumb but in this day and age most people can't drop that type of bread on that type of product, especially when tvere are descent priced alternatives out there
 
If I was a pro athlete, I'd be all over it. I'm not, and I'm poor, so there's not a chance I'll try it, right now.
 
:lol: There's not a doubt in my mind this stuff will be one of the best on the market. I don't even need to try it to know. But the average joe can do EVERYTHING he needs with food only, supplements are simply a luxury. Something like Pre-Max could help a pro eke every last bit of performance and recovery out of himself, it could give him the .5% that would mean a win. But most of us aren't operating at 99.5% capacity, and cheaper things give us the boost we're looking for.

I'm not saying it's right, that's just the way I see it. I agree with the assessment: people will happily blow $5 of a crappuccino at STarbucks, but bitch about $5 for an OLympic level supplement that is cilinically proven and will provide world class gains in performance. Myself, I can't afford $5 latte's, so I certainly can't afford $5/serving pre-workout supps. If I could, I would.
 
Question which I thought I saw answered but cant find it

Wont the carbs blunt GH release ? So if your on a prodcut such as HGHup would this have a negitive effect on that supplment ?

I am intrested in this product and will swing the cash but dont want to pour other sups down the drain to use it

Thanks in advance for your insight
 
juice3320 said:
AM is the KING OF FORUMS so gotta produce! :thumbsup: dang I wish I could find a girl who looked like that :cheers:
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Haha my bird's pretty close ;) Megan will always have a special place with me...my bedroom :D
 
dollar662 said:
Question which I thought I saw answered but cant find it

Wont the carbs blunt GH release ? So if your on a prodcut such as HGHup would this have a negitive effect on that supplment ?

I am intrested in this product and will swing the cash but dont want to pour other sups down the drain to use it

Thanks in advance for your insight
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Products like HGHup dont give you instant 4 hour HGH increase, but rather a prolonged effect over the course of the day. So to answer your question, no it wont.
 
I will admit that the profile on this looks great. Personally, I do like a stimulant in my pre-workout ****tail, but thats me. I would definitely try this....but like everybody else here, the price concerns me. The best product on the market is a complete waste if nobody can benefit from it. This product may just price itself out of the market. And don't insult the intelligent and well researched among us by comparing it to the over-inflated cost of useless Monster drinks and coffee ****tails.
 
dollar662 said:
Question which I thought I saw answered but cant find it

Wont the carbs blunt GH release ? So if your on a prodcut such as HGHup would this have a negitive effect on that supplment ?

I am intrested in this product and will swing the cash but dont want to pour other sups down the drain to use it

Thanks in advance for your insight
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13gm of sugars (or 12g PeptoPro) wont cause enough insulin release to blunt your GH response to exercise. Plus these sugars are coming from pomegranate which wont induce a large insulin response anyway.

-Eric
 
topcop196 said:
I will admit that the profile on this looks great. Personally, I do like a stimulant in my pre-workout ****tail, but thats me. I would definitely try this....but like everybody else here, the price concerns me. The best product on the market is a complete waste if nobody can benefit from it. This product may just price itself out of the market. And don't insult the intelligent and well researched among us by comparing it to the over-inflated cost of useless Monster drinks and coffee ****tails.
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you can buy 200 caffeine tabs for like $5. Thats all thats in all those stim loaded mixes
 
would it work better to take right before getting to the gym or is 45 mins before better? if the bcaas and stuff get into our muscles faster with this product what is the use taking it way before lifting?
 
qwerty33 said:
would it work better to take right before getting to the gym or is 45 mins before better? if the bcaas and stuff get into our muscles faster with this product what is the use taking it way before lifting?
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From experience 5g of GPLC takes about 20-25 minutes to feel the warm sensation, so give it at least a half an hour, the effects LAST.
 
qwerty33 said:
would it work better to take right before getting to the gym or is 45 mins before better? if the bcaas and stuff get into our muscles faster with this product what is the use taking it way before lifting?
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Yeah, it takes about 45 min for the GPLC to absorb and start working, and about 30-40 mins for the PeptoPro to increase protein synthesis. The benefit here is that you are priming you muscles for post-exercise recovery by getting amino acids levels elevated during the workout. (which means you need to take it 30-40 mins before)

Since Ive been using PreMax before workouts, Ive been finding myself very hungry after my workout meal... like right after the meal.. this would be a good sign that protein synthesis is increased and muscle is being built.

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
Yeah, it takes about 45 min for the GPLC to absorb and start working, and about 30-40 mins for the PeptoPro to increase protein synthesis. The benefit here is that you are priming you muscles for post-exercise recovery by getting amino acids levels elevated during the workout. (which means you need to take it 30-40 mins before)

Since Ive been using PreMax before workouts, Ive been finding myself very hungry after my workout meal... like right after the meal.. this would be a good sign that protein synthesis is increased and muscle is being built.

-Eric
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GPLC tends to increase my metabolism, even after I eat a big dinner, I get hunger rather quickly.
 
qwerty33 said:
would it work better to take right before getting to the gym or is 45 mins before better? if the bcaas and stuff get into our muscles faster with this product what is the use taking it way before lifting?
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Short chain peptides actually absorb faster than single amino acids.

If you take Peptopro before lifting you have it's amino acids floating in your bloodstream priming protein synthesis WHILE you workout.
 
Hey eric, if you were to take endoamp max along with this...how far out should you take the endoamp max before taking the pre-max?
 
Bulk GPLC is expensive as **** i'd just like to say, I finally found a few suppliers and said "oww" at just bulk packed powder costs
 
350zTT said:
Hey eric, if you were to take endoamp max along with this...how far out should you take the endoamp max before taking the pre-max?
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You can split them up 20-30 minutes apart pre-workout. Even if you didn't, it really isn't going to have any negative consequences.
 
I dont know what everyone in this tread is complaining about the price if you look at the regular online supplier of bulk powders you will find that making your own blend the price will be up there.lets support a good company it will cause a evolution in this field(supplements) but ONLY if we support companys that are putting research (supplements) into the formulas we consume this will choke out the mass amount of weeds(slumlord supplement companys) we now have.I support this company keep up the good work Eric and I also support the new e-pharm company run by Patric Arnold.
Del
 
delreno, i dont think people are not supporting this company, they are being realistic. This product is not affordable. Its no diffrent buying a car. Id luv to buy a corvette, or a bmw, they are top notch, but there not in my budget. doesnt make them a bad company because I dont buy one.
 
freezito said:
delreno, i dont think people are not supporting this company, they are being realistic. This product is not affordable. Its no diffrent buying a car. Id luv to buy a corvette, or a bmw, they are top notch, but there not in my budget. doesnt make them a bad company because I dont buy one.
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this is one of the most in touch with reality posts i have read in a long time. slick willie said it best 'it's the economy stupid'.:cheers:
 
thebigt said:
this is one of the most in touch with reality posts i have read in a long time. slick willie said it best 'it's the economy stupid'.:cheers:
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I dunno, I still see people buying starbucks, or buying BSN's protein, or paying $4 to buy a muscle milk RTD at the gym. so a $5 serving of a preworkout still doesn't sound that bad if you budget it in place of other stuff.
 
EasyEJL said:
I dunno, I still see people buying starbucks, or buying BSN's protein, or paying $4 to buy a muscle milk RTD at the gym. so a $5 serving of a preworkout still doesn't sound that bad if you budget it in place of other stuff.
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if you ever see me buying starbucks, i will give you the gun to shoot me with. some people are just plain stupid.
 
Like I said earlier, I will try this product once just too c if its as advertised but there is no way Id be able to buy it on a weekly basis. In this economy I have to pick and choose where to spend my money and there are bigger priorities.
 
still I see plenty of people buying muscle milk RTDs at the gym or dropping by the smoothie place after a workout
 
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