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So you hit up fasted cardio on AP and do u eat right after? or do you wait a little bit then eat?
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
So you hit up fasted cardio on AP and do u eat right after? or do you wait a little bit then eat?
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yah not long after, I am taking 11 grams BCAA/EAA's and two scoops of XTEND which is good for another 7 grams BCAA's pre-cardio also.
 
DreamWeaver said:
yah not long after, I am taking 11 grams BCAA/EAA's and two scoops of XTEND which is good for another 7 grams BCAA's pre-cardio also.
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Loving this. Melt the fat away, leave the muscle to stay!
 
haha...well i dont think ill need that much BCAA's, ur significantly larger then myself

tried it out for the first time this morning, felt alot better during cardio
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
haha...well i dont think ill need that much BCAA's, ur significantly larger then myself

tried it out for the first time this morning, felt alot better during cardio
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Yah and I have taken my Vat Attack and rising as well, so there is some extra feel good. Oh I cheated on Sunday I took a couple YRD I keep around for recreational purposes... :mischievous:
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
haha...well i dont think ill need that much BCAA's, ur significantly larger then myself

tried it out for the first time this morning, felt alot better during cardio
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Just get in a little or even a little glutamine, something to keep the body from trying to feed on muscle to create glycogen that way you stay anabolic instead of catabolic. That is really the idea with the BCAA and or glutamine supplementation for fasted training. Heck if nothing else, a 5-10 gram dose of whey 15 minutes before your workout could help. The amount of carbs is minimal, but BCAA or GLutamine is a better option.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Just get in a little or even a little glutamine, something to keep the body from trying to feed on muscle to create glycogen that way you stay anabolic instead of catabolic. That is really the idea with the BCAA and or glutamine supplementation for fasted training. Heck if nothing else, a 5-10 gram dose of whey 15 minutes before your workout could help. The amount of carbs is minimal, but BCAA or GLutamine is a better option.
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Yes now that my bodyfat is getting uncharacteristically low for me I think this is more and more necessary. There comes a point in time when I believe that the body is less likely to just use fat only as a source of energy in a fasted situation. Even during heavy workouts in a non-fasted as you get leaner it's probably wiser to get more aminos in and around your workout.
 
You know if you USP comes out with too many new supps, that a great way to go broke fast!!

And im trying to save up for a Prime bonanza cycle....not cool
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
You know if you USP comes out with too many new supps, that a great way to go broke fast!!

And im trying to save up for a Prime bonanza cycle....not cool
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Yah purchased my remaining Prime for my big stack.. when the new products come out I will have to be resourcefull to convince the wife..:mischievous:
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah purchased my remaining Prime for my big stack.. when the new products come out I will have to be resourcefull to convince the wife..:mischievous:
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Um.....good luck there!! I've never been able to justify to any girl im dating why i drop the money i do on supps and food. Even my own mom gets livid at my dad for not only allowing it...but doing it himself.

Is there anyway to write these supps off as a business expense...(for those non sposored athletes)....
 
i am currentlty using the asteroid stack..on week 3, so far the prime def seems to be a good product. but could someone tell me more about PRIME?? i was under the impression it was a test booster but i hear ppl say it is not!?? what is it? I am taking 3 caps 3 x day of the 800 mg..is that too much?

also can i take it while on a havoc cycle?
 
wolfe14 said:
i am currentlty using the asteroid stack..on week 3, so far the prime def seems to be a good product. but could someone tell me more about PRIME?? i was under the impression it was a test booster but i hear ppl say it is not!?? what is it? I am taking 3 caps 3 x day of the 800 mg..is that too much?
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that dosing is fine..keep dosing like that on training days, and try 6 caps on off days (2x3)..I think you'll dig the results, and it'll last a bit longer too.

check out the information to learn about Prime:
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also can i take it while on a havoc cycle?
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I would see this as overkill..save the Prime for when you come off Havoc.
 
snagency said:
that dosing is fine..keep dosing like that on training days, and try 6 caps on off days (2x3)..I think you'll dig the results, and it'll last a bit longer too.

check out the information to learn about Prime:
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I would see this as overkill..save the Prime for when you come off Havoc.
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cool thanks! answer me this is prime a test booster???
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
Um.....good luck there!! I've never been able to justify to any girl im dating why i drop the money i do on supps and food. Even my own mom gets livid at my dad for not only allowing it...but doing it himself.

Is there anyway to write these supps off as a business expense...(for those non sposored athletes)....
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If there was I would have already done it.. and recieved a significant tax break... :afro:
 
you guys just gotta get creative. :wink1:

[and if anybody on here works for the IRS, my account was hi-jacked and I really didn't just post that..] :shhh:
 
snagency said:
you guys just gotta get creative. :wink1:

[and if anybody on here works for the IRS, my account was hi-jacked and I really didn't just post that..] :shhh:
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Actually if you make your living as an athlete then yah they would be a write off. As a matter of fact if your a personal trainer the same should be a go. Tools of the trade...:147:
 
DreamWeaver said:
Actually if you make your living as an athlete then yah they would be a write off. As a matter of fact if your a personal trainer the same should be a go. Tools of the trade...:147:
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DUDE YOU ARE A GENIUS!!!...i can do that part time to pay for med school applications haha im already training like 3 of my friends for free maybe i should start charging.....
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
DUDE YOU ARE A GENIUS!!!...i can do that part time to pay for med school applications haha im already training like 3 of my friends for free maybe i should start charging.....
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FIRST, you need to go get yourself a DBA, then get yourself a tax number for the DBA, then you can write things of that go towards the business. Pay for your certification courses /tests, supplementation and even your gym memberships can be considered as such. Lunches you discuss personal training yada yada yada. Also remember though, you will get taxed on other things that are personal items as well if you use your hoe address for the business then personal items become assets of the company. Like a 4000 dollar gaming computer, well that bad boy is now a taxable asset. Talk to a tax person before doing those things but worth it. I am getting ready to employ a lot of this.
 
Mr.Kleen.... your like willy wonka for lifting, ensuring that all dreams may come true!

Im really gonna consider taking out the license and getting a tax number
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
Mr.Kleen.... your like willy wonka for lifting, ensuring that all dreams may come true!

Im really gonna consider taking out the license and getting a tax number
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Hopefully that is the original Mr. Wonka. Gene Wilder was the BOMB. My 5 year old daughter saw the original the other day and was like Daddy, that one is way better than the one my friend has(new one). When you buy it for me will you get this one. I was like YES, she didn't even have to be told which one is better. OOMPAH LOOMPAHS ROCK!!!!!!

Like I said you may want to talk to a CPA to get things in line so you don't have any issues pop up later like being taxed for personal items, or geing looked at for suspect claims. There are ways to exclude them some of the Tax laws differ from state to state. They can tell you everything that you can write off and what not to try. Many will do a free consult if you are going to have them help you iwth your taxes. Some will charge a reasonable fee for the one time consult. Of course you can always read up on it on the IRS website if you have the time to do so.
 
All the talk about mega-dosing Prime got me planning I have 6 bottles of 800 mg and about 60 600 mg left.

Weeks nwd/wd
1-2 5/5 + 3 600 mg
3-4 6/6 + 3 600 mg
5-6 7/10
7-8 8/11
9-10 9/13
11-12 10/15

Yah I like it!! Going to be a monster run. I start 6 weeks DTHC on Sunday then a week off then the "Mega Progressive Primal Assault"
 
MrKleen73 said:
Hopefully that is the original Mr. Wonka. Gene Wilder was the BOMB. My 5 year old daughter saw the original the other day and was like Daddy, that one is way better than the one my friend has(new one). When you buy it for me will you get this one. I was like YES, she didn't even have to be told which one is better. OOMPAH LOOMPAHS ROCK!!!!!!

Like I said you may want to talk to a CPA to get things in line so you don't have any issues pop up later like being taxed for personal items, or geing looked at for suspect claims. There are ways to exclude them some of the Tax laws differ from state to state. They can tell you everything that you can write off and what not to try. Many will do a free consult if you are going to have them help you iwth your taxes. Some will charge a reasonable fee for the one time consult. Of course you can always read up on it on the IRS website if you have the time to do so.
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Now how are your going to top Gene Wilder as Willie Wonka, one of the finer acting performances in childrens entertainment.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Now how are your going to top Gene Wilder as Willie Wonka, one of the finer acting performances in childrens entertainment.
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I remember seeing the digitally remastered one on the hi def and thinking that all of the candy was going to pop off of the screen. Thats it I am going to put that bad boy on my netflix.

I love your planned PRIME dosing protocal there by the way.
 
DreamWeaver said:
All the talk about mega-dosing Prime got me planning I have 6 bottles of 800 mg and about 60 600 mg left.

Weeks nwd/wd
1-2 5/5 + 3 600 mg
3-4 6/6 + 3 600 mg
5-6 7/10
7-8 8/11
9-10 9/13
11-12 10/15

Yah I like it!! Going to be a monster run. I start 6 weeks DTHC on Sunday then a week off then the "Mega Progressive Primal Assault"
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Holy Gains Batman!! My friend weeks 11-12 your gonna run through walls, swim across oceans, and KO chuck norris with a roundhouse to the face.

And please tell me how u acquired 6 bottles of the Prime? Did you walk into GNC and slap the man behind th front desk till he gave you their entire stock?
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
Holy Gains Batman!! My friend weeks 11-12 your gonna run through walls, swim across oceans, and KO chuck norris with a roundhouse to the face.

And please tell me how u acquired 6 bottles of the Prime? Did you walk into GNC and slap the man behind th front desk till he gave you their entire stock?
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Have you seen his stats? That is merely a half hearted bit ch slap from him. Of course they would have to put out the APB as ARMED and dangerous...
 
MrKleen73 said:
Have you seen his stats? That is merely a half hearted bit ch slap from him. Of course they would have to put out the APB as ARMED and dangerous...
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haha do you mean "HEAVILY ARMED" and dangerous?
 
MrKleen73 said:
Have you seen his stats? That is merely a half hearted bit ch slap from him. Of course they would have to put out the APB as ARMED and dangerous...
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Thanks guys, my arms are still around 18.5 but the leaner I get the more impressive they look. Yah I will humbly admit I am pretty good for an old fugger.... Still have some old fugger fat to deal with, stubborn areas but I do believe I am fairly intimidating in a apperance. :drillsergeant:

Jacob was kind enough to send me a couple bottles and I bought 4 more just recently.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Thanks guys, my arms are still around 18.5 but the leaner I get the more impressive they look. Yah I will humbly admit I am pretty good for an old fugger.... Still have some old fugger fat to deal with, stubborn areas but I do believe I am fairly intimidating in a apperance. :drillsergeant:

Jacob was kind enough to send me a couple bottles and I bought 4 more just recently.
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Jacobs kindness brings a tear to my eyes...its like when you look under the christmas tree and Santa brought you u that toy which you have been drooling over since thanksgiving

haha this year i know what im asking for!
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
Jacobs kindness brings a tear to my eyes...its like when you look under the christmas tree and Santa brought you u that toy which you have been drooling over since thanksgiving

haha this year i know what im asking for!
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Yah Jacob gives back... that's why I get pissed when people try to run him down or USP products.
 
Ok I posted this in another thread but thought I would also do so hear.

I have continued my Vat Atack useage as I have vowed to keep using it as long as I see results. Well this morning after 9 weeks of use I continue to see results. I had no idea that there was this much VAT... I put on my 34" jeans and they were feeling pretty loose around the waist ... but I am still over 235 lbs how can this be!! Oh it be!! I thought I had a wide waist and had to live with that fact but it seems there was something hiding causting this problem. I ordered 2 more and there arriving around noon today!! I will continue till I stop seeing progress...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Ok I posted this in another thread but thought I would also do so hear.

I have continued my Vat Atack useage as I have vowed to keep using it as long as I see results. Well this morning after 9 weeks of use I continue to see results. I had no idea that there was this much VAT... I put on my 34" jeans and they were feeling pretty loose around the waist ... but I am still over 235 lbs how can this be!! Oh it be!! I thought I had a wide waist and had to live with that fact but it seems there was something hiding causting this problem. I ordered 2 more and there arriving around noon today!! I will continue till I stop seeing progress...
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Man that is AWESOME news. I have some VAT Attack at home and haven't employed it yet. However now I am thinking it may be the perfect thing during my clean bulk to keep my waist from getting thick I tend to carry a lot of visceral fat. I get a relatively thin sheath of fat sub-q but most of my fat girth is inside the muscle so I look relatively solid and cant push in much when heavier. I can even comfortably take some time off of RC when the bottle runs out. I have been using for a few months now, and was saving the VAT Attack for for a bridge.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Man that is AWESOME news. I have some VAT Attack at home and haven't employed it yet. However now I am thinking it may be the perfect thing during my clean bulk to keep my waist from getting thick I tend to carry a lot of visceral fat. I get a relatively thin sheath of fat sub-q but most of my fat girth is inside the muscle so I look relatively solid and cant push in much when heavier. I can even comfortably take some time off of RC when the bottle runs out. I have been using for a few months now, and was saving the VAT Attack for for a bridge.
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I have not noticed as much VAT on you but who knows it's sneaky stuff...
 
Man the more i read about VAT Attack the more i want to use it!! But i shall refrain till i drop most of my sub-q fat with Recreate and diet(plus cardio of course) then cycle off and slowly add in VAT Attack.

How long did you think u would use Vat attack for?
And have you noticed any other benefits besides a reduction in VAT around the waist?
And have you seen any negative sides with the continual use of Vat attack?
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
Man the more i read about VAT Attack the more i want to use it!! But i shall refrain till i drop most of my sub-q fat with Recreate and diet(plus cardio of course) then cycle off and slowly add in VAT Attack.

How long did you think u would use Vat attack for?
And have you noticed any other benefits besides a reduction in VAT around the waist?
And have you seen any negative sides with the continual use of Vat attack?
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How long did you think u would use Vat attack for?
Till it stops working that's what I am trying to find out...

And have you noticed any other benefits besides a reduction in VAT around the waist?
Seems to be some mood elevation anything else would be pure speculation.

And have you seen any negative sides with the continual use of Vat attack?
No nor do I anticipate any...
 
DreamWeaver said:
I have not noticed as much VAT on you but who knows it's sneaky stuff...
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You know to be honest since RC has been pretty much a staple it has not been too bad but with increasing calories during the clean bulk something to avoid it comming back into the mix is more my plan. Kind of preventive maintenance I guess. However when my bodyfat goes into 9% and above the thickness becomes more apparent. I get very turtle shell-ish. You can see shadows of abs, they just tend to be distended or arch outward like I am wearing a turtle shell on my stomach.
 
are you planning on combining RC and Vat attack kleen?
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
are you planning on combining RC and Vat attack kleen?
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Maybe at some point but I want to see how the VAT Attack does stand alone during this stack. See if I notice any difference in composition. Also I think I am going to stop the RC beofre this bottle runs out, as I am honestly having a hard time getting my meals in. Just not that hungry which is from the RC's awesome appetite control. I want to put on some good size and need to be eating to do so.
 
Hah my shipment is in

4 Prime
2 Eviscerate
4 PLCAR
4 Bulk Super Cissus
1 1000 cap Omega 3
2 Vat Attack
1 kilo BCAA's
1 Ubiquinol
 
DW, how much Ubiquinol are you taking e/d?
 
DreamWeaver said:
It's for the wife she has CFS....I think she only takes a couple a day...
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Ok, I have been looking into this compound lately and thought you could possibly provide some insight. We 50yr olds just don't produce as much as these other young studs on here.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Hah my shipment is in

4 Prime
2 Eviscerate
4 PLCAR
4 Bulk Super Cissus
1 1000 cap Omega 3
2 Vat Attack
1 kilo BCAA's
1 Ubiquinol
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:bling:
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Ok, I have been looking into this compound lately and thought you could possibly provide some insight. We 50yr olds just don't produce as much as these other young studs on here.
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Yah it's something I would have to take a look at, I've a feeling I would need to take a bit more ... not necessarly though.
 
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