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thundergod said:
Chainsaw or anyone else--- What if we were using BN's bulk testofen powder and suspended it in some extra virgin olive oil ourselves? Would this improve delivery at all? And would this same idea help with other powders such as divanil, horny goat weed and others? Also, how about the guy who said he held uncapped superdrol in his mouth to let it absorb sublingually? Does this work, and would it also work with powders like testofen, divanil, HGW? Someone with more knowledge than me please help me out. PLEASE!!!
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that is a novel idea thundergod.
or maybe coconut oil?
I'd love to suspend my powders in liquid form.
would make them so much easier to take.
and olive oil, even the EVOO is really cheap in bulk online.
 
the thing that jumped out at me on your test results re testofen was no change whatsoever in bmi ....that combined with a test from jissn found here : Invalid Link Removed
that states Methoxyisoflavone does not effect body composition or influence anabolic/catbolic hormone status or general markers of catabolism make me leary (surprise huh) i mean if testofen does nothing for bmi and this study show these results with methoxyisoflavone one would be leary right? I mean what would it do re muscle gain? Based on the above results re your test result with testofen and bmi and independant study re methoxy - it would do nothing to increase muscle mass. Do you have any independent tests of methoxyisoflavone and its results ?( and not being a smartass but it would be nice if the tests were on humnas..like the one you did on testofen..they were informative) thanks....
and hey if you dont thats fine too...these are just a couple immediate observations i made which brought up a question i felt it prudent to ask. Dont take this wrong ,your claims are intriguing and i have much interest in your response. thanks again...
 
steveironman said:
the thing that jumped out at me on your test results re testofen was no change whatsoever in bmi ....that combined with a test from jissn found here : Invalid Link Removed
that states Methoxyisoflavone does not effect body composition or influence anabolic/catbolic hormone status or general markers of catabolism make me leary (surprise huh) i mean if testofen does nothing for bmi and this study show these results with methoxyisoflavone one would be leary right? I mean what would it do re muscle gain? Based on the above results re your test result with testofen and bmi and independant study re methoxy - it would do nothing to increase muscle mass. Do you have any independent tests of methoxyisoflavone and its results ?( and not being a smartass but it would be nice if the tests were on humnas..like the one you did on testofen..they were informative) thanks....
and hey if you dont thats fine too...these are just a couple immediate observations i made which brought up a question i felt it prudent to ask. Dont take this wrong ,your claims are intriguing and i have much interest in your response. thanks again...
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BMI has nothing to do with bodyfat or muscle. BMI can stay the same while muscle increases and fat goes down. The Testofen group did have a favorable change in lean body mass and body fat reduction that the BMI would not indicate.

Perhaps the methodologies and design of the study you mentioned where insufficient to identify statistical significance… but this is only a guess… since they didn’t find any ergonomic effect on the 3 different supplements they tested.

Besides, this study contrasts the results you mentioned from the above study, and so do the patent claims and user anecdotes -

Incledon, TVGD; Antonio, J. The effects of 5-methyl-7-methoxyisoflavone on body composition and performance in college-aged men. Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2001;33

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
BMI has nothing to do with bodyfat or muscle. BMI can stay the same while muscle increases and fat goes down. this is technically true but for the # to remain so close to identical just raised my curiousity...understandably! the exact amt of muscle gain and bf lost for # to reamin the same? Anyway no biggie.The Testofen group did have a favorable change in lean body mass and body fat reduction that the BMI would not indicate.

Perhaps the methodologies and design of the study you mentioned where insufficient to identify statistical significance… but this is only a guess… since they didn’t find any ergonomic effect on the 3 different supplements they tested.

Besides, this study contrasts the results you mentioned from the above study, and so do the patent claims and user anecdotes -

Incledon, TVGD; Antonio, J. The effects of 5-methyl-7-methoxyisoflavone on body composition and performance in college-aged men. Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2001;33
Yes there are conflicting studies with methoxy - thats why i noted a very credible study and asked if u had your own studies like with testofen .
-Eric
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Good luck with your new product...
 
Primordial Perf said:
The New Year sale is officially here –
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30% off everything until next week! (The 14th)

Guys, this makes Invalid Link Removed only $41.97 with this sale!

-Eric
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a plant hormone that increases testosterone, as well as protein synthesis, nitrogen retention, recovery, as well as thermogenesis..what an innovative product!:thumbsup:..get on it fellas!:food:..LOL..:thumbsup:
 
bslick69b said:
a plant hormone that increases testosterone, as well as protein synthesis, nitrogen retention, recovery, as well as thermogenesis..what an innovative product!:thumbsup:..get on it fellas!:food:..LOL..:thumbsup:
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I'm way ahead of yuy there slick lol I picked up 3 bottles with NP new years sale to run with Prime and SuperSap.... I have been dying to try to see what happens with a test boosting stack and Prime.
 
DreamWeaver said:
I'm way ahead of yuy there slick lol I picked up 3 bottles with NP new years sale to run with Prime and SuperSap.... I have been dying to try to see what happens with a test boosting stack and Prime.
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:thumbsup:.will we be seeing a log of this;)
 
Terencec said:
How is the sexual side effects on this product compared to Sustain which had great side effects :).
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Ive heard reports of it increasing libido and not having any effect… I think Sustain is stronger for overall sexual enhancement effects if that’s what you’re looking for.

-Eric
 
I am sure that Phyto-Test must be contributing to my increased libido... there is very impressive testicular fullness as well.
 
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From now until tomorrow night (Monday, the 27th at midnight) you can get a months supply of Phyto-testosterone for only $29.97.

Just checkout the warehouse clearance sale at Invalid Link Removed...

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
Guys.. now is your chance to get your hands on Invalid Link Removed at a 40% discount.

From now until tomorrow night (Monday, the 27th at midnight) you can get a months supply of Phyto-testosterone for only $29.97.

Just checkout the warehouse clearance sale at Invalid Link Removed...

-Eric
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There is about 6 hours left on this sale... dont miss out guys...

-Eric
 
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There is only 45 mins left on this sale. Get you some!!! :)
 
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Anyone try dosing Phyto Testosterone at 5 or 6 caps a day?

I just started today at 6 caps. curious if results would be better if I dosed 1 or 2 caps more a day, or does everyone think 4 caps would do the same thing.
 
JudgementDay said:
Anyone try dosing Phyto Testosterone at 5 or 6 caps a day?

I just started today at 6 caps. curious if results would be better if I dosed 1 or 2 caps more a day, or does everyone think 4 caps would do the same thing.
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At your size there is no need to go higher. Dosing recommendations are based on guys in your size range as the 175-200lb range is average size. Now for someone like myself in the 250lbs+ range I would recommend 6 caps. I don't think you would see a discernible difference between 4 caps or dosing higher honestly. The theory of more is better is not always the way to go. In this instance just run it according to the recommended dose and you should get some nice results.

Now what I will recommend though is that you run two bottles of it back to back. With running herbal test boosters you should never just do a one bottle run...the real fun doesn't usually begin until week 3 on herbal test boosters.

Cheers!:cheers:

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
 
SamBoz19 said:
At your size there is no need to go higher. Dosing recommendations are based on guys in your size range as the 175-200lb range is average size. Now for someone like myself in the 250lbs+ range I would recommend 6 caps. I don't think you would see a discernible difference between 4 caps or dosing higher honestly. The theory of more is better is not always the way to go. In this instance just run it according to the recommended dose and you should get some nice results.

Now what I will recommend though is that you run two bottles of it back to back. With running herbal test boosters you should never just do a one bottle run...the real fun doesn't usually begin until week 3 on herbal test boosters.

Cheers!:cheers:

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
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Awesome thanks! I will stick to 4 caps a day, I'll only be running it for my last 4 weeks of my cut tho, I ended up trading some stuff for a bottle so I figured I'll add it in now:)
 
IMO, two bottles would be great, I think natty T boosters should be run or 8 weeks or longer. That way you get a cumulative effect on the increase in hormone levels.
 
I just took advantage of the sale and bought Phyto for the first time.. Im will be running it along with the TRS, your creapure at 5gms a day, and Jack3d. Would you two suggest anything else from experience or anything that you believe would be a beneficial addition? Ive been thinking of running Androhard solo and following it up with the trs+ phyto... but I havent bought it yet (thinking about doing a natty stack this time to be honest, but damn that androhard is tempting).
 
crowpass said:
I just took advantage of the sale and bought Phyto for the first time.. Im will be running it along with the TRS, your creapure at 5gms a day, and Jack3d. Would you two suggest anything else from experience or anything that you believe would be a beneficial addition? Ive been thinking of running Androhard solo and following it up with the trs+ phyto... but I havent bought it yet (thinking about doing a natty stack this time to be honest, but damn that androhard is tempting).
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If you are looking to stick with a natty stack DAA our TCF-1 product would be a fantastic addition. Still on sale for 20 bucks
 
crowpass said:
I just took advantage of the sale and bought Phyto for the first time.. Im will be running it along with the TRS, your creapure at 5gms a day, and Jack3d. Would you two suggest anything else from experience or anything that you believe would be a beneficial addition? Ive been thinking of running Androhard solo and following it up with the trs+ phyto... but I havent bought it yet (thinking about doing a natty stack this time to be honest, but damn that androhard is tempting).
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My suggestion is the same as Ryans, but even without you have a solid set up going there!
 
crowpass said:
I just took advantage of the sale and bought Phyto for the first time.. Im will be running it along with the TRS, your creapure at 5gms a day, and Jack3d. Would you two suggest anything else from experience or anything that you believe would be a beneficial addition? Ive been thinking of running Androhard solo and following it up with the trs+ phyto... but I havent bought it yet (thinking about doing a natty stack this time to be honest, but damn that androhard is tempting).
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TRS+Phyto would be great after Androhard, imo, enough for PCT. Also, sale continues until the 4th so you have time to decide!
 
I am amazed how all of you reps had some sort of input. The fact shows that you all believe in your products. Believe me, if I have any questions im not going to be afraid to ask. Im 25 years old 5'10 sitting at about 163.. Id say my bf is lower than 10 because im pretty vasular and have a six pack or eight depending if I flex my abdominals. Honestly I really have no fat at all... I own my own pool cleaning business so im always active... 6 days a week from 8-7 at night here in Dallas. so you can hopefully get the picture of how lean I am.. anyways if I were to run Androhard or Androlean would I benefit from either... I take 3 protien shakes a day along side my brekfast (wafflehouse or original house of panckase) and my lunch and dinner wich consist of lubys/ market street type food and home cooking.... meat, veggies and potatoes/ pasta. any input?
 
crowpass said:
I am amazed how all of you reps had some sort of input. The fact shows that you all believe in your products. Believe me, if I have any questions im not going to be afraid to ask. Im 25 years old 5'10 sitting at about 163.. Id say my bf is lower than 10 because im pretty vasular and have a six pack or eight depending if I flex my abdominals. Honestly I really have no fat at all... I own my own pool cleaning business so im always active... 6 days a week from 8-7 at night here in Dallas. so you can hopefully get the picture of how lean I am.. anyways if I were to run Androhard or Androlean would I benefit from either... I take 3 protien shakes a day along side my brekfast (wafflehouse or original house of panckase) and my lunch and dinner wich consist of lubys/ market street type food and home cooking.... meat, veggies and potatoes/ pasta. any input?
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WAAAAYYYY more food is needed based upon your stats.
 
Iv noticed more from just the Phyto alone, but have never stacked the two for natural gains(TCF-1 and Phyto)...Im on Androhard right now, and might run those after to keep the gains..One thing I will say though, Phyto will make you eat like a mofo!! so thats great for gaining muscle naturally
 
vpower said:
Iv noticed more from just the Phyto alone, but have never stacked the two for natural gains(TCF-1 and Phyto)...Im on Androhard right now, and might run those after to keep the gains..One thing I will say though, Phyto will make you eat like a mofo!! so thats great for gaining muscle naturally
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I still have yet to try it, but I might strictly for the appetite increase alone.
 
vpower said:
Iv noticed more from just the Phyto alone, but have never stacked the two for natural gains(TCF-1 and Phyto)...Im on Androhard right now, and might run those after to keep the gains..One thing I will say though, Phyto will make you eat like a mofo!! so thats great for gaining muscle naturally
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It has the same effect on me... massive hunger
 
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