new formestane product

It's all about what the hot topic of today is...and since athletes use/used this stuff for a competitive edge on the competition...people look down on them and the products they used...politicians especially will use ANYTHING that is of hot topic to gain them election/reelection...just the way this country (and I'm sure others) works...go for the majority! I do not have to say anything about BigPharma since it has already been mentioned but pharm companies make so much f'n money it's sick...but throw out the little men because gov't isn't taking in money from it...gov't can say it's to protect us from bunks, scams and contaminated products but the prestigious and reliable companies get their shyt tested...I'm probably missing something but I'm tired and heading to bed...night y'all! haha
 
Once again, I think I'm probably responsible for steering a legitimate thread so far off-topic we may actually be lost. Sorry. :sad:
So, here's my feeble attempt at redemption...
dsade -- you said there's one more Form source you may tap. Do you think there's a decent chance this may succeed? Or are we going to lose this one?
 
Sorry to hear about the situation Dsade. Luckily it's not like this in the UK (probably as nothing is made over here anyway...)
 
ImJ2x said:
Once again, I think I'm probably responsible for steering a legitimate thread so far off-topic we may actually be lost. Sorry. :sad:
So, here's my feeble attempt at redemption...
dsade -- you said there's one more Form source you may tap. Do you think there's a decent chance this may succeed? Or are we going to lose this one?
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Good question, lets not give up yet. I probably was one of the first to panic. I just love the stuff sooo much.:drunk:
 
fitnecise said:
I'll never forget this in the way my biochem professor taught it- "you'll know you drank methanol because you will go blind before you die." But yeah down as much alcohol on the way to the hospital as possible and you might make it.

What do you know about the risks of aspartame hydrolyzing in heat to methanol? Is it consensus that Gulf War Syndrome was mainly because of that?
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Thread Jack! Sorry 'bout this one guys.

From what I was able to dig up, apartame is N-(L-α-Aspartyl)-L-phenylalanine-1-methyl ester (I don't know how wikipedia thinks that's the IUPAC name). Naturally, the ether and ester run the risk of coming off, and degrading this into methanol, phenylalanine, and apartic acid in a similar manner as CEE degrades into creatine and ethanol (and then to creatinine and ethanol).

The safety comes more with the lines of how much are you getting in a period of time. Methanol metabolizes pretty quickly, and doesn't take up very much of the aspartame molecule (10.5%-ish). So 100mg of aspartame, which is like as sweet as 18g of sugar, has about 10-11mg of methanol and that's like 0.0087 mL of 200proof methanol at room temp.
 
damn lushes
 
thesinner said:
Thread Jack! Sorry 'bout this one guys.

From what I was able to dig up, apartame is N-(L-α-Aspartyl)-L-phenylalanine-1-methyl ester (I don't know how wikipedia thinks that's the IUPAC name). Naturally, the ether and ester run the risk of coming off, and degrading this into methanol, phenylalanine, and apartic acid in a similar manner as CEE degrades into creatine and ethanol (and then to creatinine and ethanol).

The safety comes more with the lines of how much are you getting in a period of time. Methanol metabolizes pretty quickly, and doesn't take up very much of the aspartame molecule (10.5%-ish). So 100mg of aspartame, which is like as sweet as 18g of sugar, has about 10-11mg of methanol and that's like 0.0087 mL of 200proof methanol at room temp.
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I like the new avatar. I have to say that I like Mario 2 the best... There's nothing like pulling out a weed and realizing that there's an obtuse piece of butternut squash with a big, wide smiley face staring you straight in the eye. ;)
 
Naseem said:
the real true revolution start against our first most dangerous enemy ourselves it s juss you against your self this the hardest!
i mean you have to fight your own devil 1st !
by the way neo! how come now days evrebody is doin the satanic symbol especially in the usa the one u juss did in u r post above!
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Just to answer you and not get into a discussion here (General Chat if you want to), the \__/ hand signal you are talking about :head: is common in the states because of satanic or alleged satanic rock / metal bands making it popular aka Kiss etc. It's not the devils horns to me but just a way of saying "yeah goooooo buddy!" or something similar.

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or we could just use "I love you" in american sign language

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neoborn said:
Just to answer you and not get into a discussion here (General Chat if you want to), the \__/ hand signal you are talking about :head: is common in the states because of satanic or alleged satanic rock / metal bands making it popular aka Kiss etc. It's not the devils horns to me but just a way of saying "yeah goooooo buddy!" or something similar.

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or we could just use "I love you" in american sign language

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SURE NEO! take it to the general chat! open thread i ll be there! we dont wanna hijack that one!
still u cant change the meaning of from what it is meant to be!
even if u dont mean it , i know hard rock and metal groups use but those the admit to worship satan!

also the ms13 " mara svatroucha " salvodrian gangs know they use that sign in it s original meaning aka pledge alleges to SATAN!
 
All I know is, 99.9% of Americans who throw that sign around have no intention of summoning the Dog Lord; they're just trying to be cool. So relax, bro. :head:
 
Great stuff.
I stop by to check out the latest formestane drama and end up learning about aspartame & hand signs.
Outstanding.
 
TSB4me said:
Great stuff.
I stop by to check out the latest formestane drama and end up learning about aspartame & hand signs.
Outstanding.
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Lol Here's another one-:FUfinger:

JUST KIDDING.:toofunny:

And to get back on track.. Formestane is going out of stock everywhere. DOH!
 
I'm telling you, neo -- if the FDAholes ever decide to go after Cissus, it's fukcing on. Seriously.
 
neoborn said:
This is seriously f*cked. How do we take action for the continued supply of Form?
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if that darn thread of yours wouldn't have taken off like it did, formestane would have stayed a relatively unknown substance. it's all neo's fault.:drunk: just kidding. considering how well it works, and how inexpensive it is plus the fact that it was introduced as a first generation breast cancer pharmaceutical, i am surprised as hell that it has lasted this long.:cheers:
 
no no no no no.....don't quit on me like that! Let's get this going and make it happen. Please talk to as many supp companies as you can about the association thing that LGSciences proposed in their forums on here!

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Dsade? Be p!ssed off enough to get involved with this association banter and let's take some action! Seriously!

Someone talk to Ryan Deluca as well...please?
 
Lol @ Neo banning PA from "the association". :rolleyes:

Whatever happened with the USFA anyways, after the Anti-Andro bill and whatnot?
 
PA can be a 'guest speaker' lol with no ties though or power, just because in my personal opinion he's a .Gov sellout. Not a dig just the way it is :(
 
neoborn said:
PA can be a 'guest speaker' lol with no ties though or power, just because in my personal opinion he's a .Gov sellout. Not a dig just the way it is :(
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just for the sake of controversy, what if a major marketer of an aromatase inhibitor tipped off the fda about formestane. it's increasing popularity and inexpensive price tag could have been seen as a threat. the supplement industry has become a serious money game. btw-i believe that is what happened to aspire, just an opinion.:cheers:
 
This is a no contraversy zone.....sorry :) Only happy people for the betterment of society and humanage are allowed in here :)

:rasp: Don't Drink Teh H8torade! :rasp:
 
neoborn said:
This is a no contraversy zone.....sorry :) Only happy people for the betterment of society and humanage are allowed in here :)

:rasp: Don't Drink Teh H8torade! :rasp:
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thanks for fiiling me in on that, for a minute i forgot this was your thread. sorry for jacking your thread there, neo...:wave:
 
thebigt said:
thanks for fiiling me in on that, for a minute i forgot this was your thread. sorry for jacking your thread there, neo...:wave:
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Not my thread, just a note to hopefully stop me from joining in and going to town on subjects that bring no positive result. I would really love to see us all band together and make a real difference!

BigT you rule bro and you are welcome to say whatever you want in any thread I start etc.....you sir are the pwn!
 
I have not stopped pushing on this, and we did get someone willing to take up the challenge this weekend.
 
dsade said:
I have not stopped pushing on this, and we did get someone willing to take up the challenge this weekend.
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This might be a dumb question but is this the same issue that is affecting NP and BN in terms of obtaining bulk powder?
 
I really hope this product gets rolling.. I really want to use form as part of a non steroidal stack during the summer.. I have some transdermal and like 5 extra grams from NP on hand, but damn transdermal application is a pain.
 
celc5 said:
This might be a dumb question but is this the same issue that is affecting NP and BN in terms of obtaining bulk powder?
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Correct.

With the clampdown on supply coming out of China, and the threatened penalties, they are freaking out about everything: Formestane, Pheromones - hell, even some herbals.

The limited material we had in country for synthesis would NOT hold the THP ether at the position we were attempting. The new contact I made has 30+ years of experience, and claims to know exactly how to do it simply.

I'm not promising anything, but this is not dead.
 
dsade said:
Correct.

With the clampdown on supply coming out of China, and the threatened penalties, they are freaking out about everything: Formestane, Pheromones - hell, even some herbals.

The limited material we had in country for synthesis would NOT hold the THP ether at the position we were attempting. The new contact I made has 30+ years of experience, and claims to know exactly how to do it simply.

I'm not promising anything, but this is not dead.
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Thanks for puttin so much effort into this D. Regardless of the outcome, I think it's good for the consumer to be aware of everything that goes into making an effective product available.
 
It's good to know it's not dead yet. I have just fallen in love with this supp.
 
dsade said:
Correct.

With the clampdown on supply coming out of China, and the threatened penalties, they are freaking out about everything: Formestane, Pheromones - hell, even some herbals.

The limited material we had in country for synthesis would NOT hold the THP ether at the position we were attempting. The new contact I made has 30+ years of experience, and claims to know exactly how to do it simply.

I'm not promising anything, but this is not dead.
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Don't give up bro! We'll not give up on you :) :thumbsup:

And as I am sure you can see we all, here, appreciate what you are doing and your efforts. Honestly, this is a cash cow....can you hear those $$$

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I don't know much about this importing chemicals from china, but isn't there anyplace else that can manufacture this in another country?
 
leetuser said:
I don't know much about this importing chemicals from china, but isn't there anyplace else that can manufacture this in another country?
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At this point, not at a price that would make bringing this to market even remotely cost-effective.

Vietnam is stepping up, somewhat. India had potential, but there is just something wrong with most suppliers I have dealt with from there - VERY bad quality control standards and an urge to promise you the moon that they cannot deliver. Take the Alpha-Yohimbine as a perfect example.
 
dsade said:
India had potential, but there is just something wrong with most suppliers I have dealt with from there - VERY bad quality control standards and an urge to promise you the moon that they cannot deliver. Take the Alpha-Yohimbine as a perfect example.
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funny, they are exactly the same way in the software industry
 
dsade said:
Correct.

With the clampdown on supply coming out of China, and the threatened penalties, they are freaking out about everything: Formestane, Pheromones - hell, even some herbals.

The limited material we had in country for synthesis would NOT hold the THP ether at the position we were attempting. The new contact I made has 30+ years of experience, and claims to know exactly how to do it simply.

I'm not promising anything, but this is not dead.
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what happens to the old material that wouldn't hold the THP ether?
 
I suppose that Dsade will put it in containers, ask everyone in this thread for their address and ship it out as expired research chemicals not to be used for human consumption.
 
warnerve said:
what happens to the old material that wouldn't hold the THP ether?
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it burned through the container, through three levels of solid steel decking, then ate through the outer hull causing a breach.

We had to take off and nuke it from orbit.

/the only way to be sure.
 
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