YELLOW GOLD - Is it Magic? (Unsponsored Log)

VolcomX311 said:
could somone explain explain what paracuting is? YG sounds like a sound product if its suppose to be like Anabolic Pump, but I can't spend anymore money on a cap-m-kit, at least not right now. I've always just dumped the powder in mouth and swigg it down with some water or my protein, but I'm not familiar with parachuting.
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I have the cap some more YG soon, used up almost the first 50 I made.
 
I just dump it into a small piece of a single ply of paper napkin, fold it up, twist the tail, and swallow :)
 
I wish I understood why I can't take YG... i took it for like 3 weeks then 1 day I took my normal dose and could not stop vomiting... then I tried anabolic pump and the same thing happened vomiting until blood started coming up... guess I became allergic to it or something.
 
DAY 16
Dosing: 1 15mins pre Breakfast, PWO meal and Dinner. All these had atleast 70g complex carbs which is how it usually is. Judging from the pics and how I feel, I haven't noticed much of a pumped look except for a tiny bit in my chest I think.

It's hard to say if YG has prevented fat gain or not , but I haven't actually felt anything to tell me it's working. Will keep on going, and see how my clean bulk progresses.
 
Steveoph said:
DAY 16
Dosing: 1 15mins pre Breakfast, PWO meal and Dinner. All these had atleast 70g complex carbs which is how it usually is. Judging from the pics and how I feel, I haven't noticed much of a pumped look except for a tiny bit in my chest I think.

It's hard to say if YG has prevented fat gain or not , but I haven't actually felt anything to tell me it's working. Will keep on going, and see how my clean bulk progresses.
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howmuch YG u doing daily now?

try doing 750 3x if possible, max at 1g 3x for 3gdaily i hear that def works

i noticed nothing at 500,500,500
 
DAY 17
Took 1 cap (530mg still) with Breakfast, PWO and Dinner. Down to my last 4 caps, so I will be recapping. I'm still trying to decide how much to do for my next batch. I might do 500 mg again and just double up on some meals and see how that goes.

DAY 18
Took my YG, then things got crazy and I didn't manage to eat my oatmeal for an hour afterwards, and I after eating my porridge I was still starving. It felt like I ate nothing lol, even though I ate the exact same amount. For dinner today I'm going to take 2 caps because its a potluck, will be very carb heavy and a large meal. I'll see how I handle all the carbs tonight, will update tomorrow.

Ncyste, I might try 750mg, it's just I don't really want to toss back the YG like I do other bulk powders b/c I hear its terrible, but I might try it for a few tries, or maybe I'll try parachuting.
 
just recap it... do 500mgs again

just take 2 pills per meal for a few days see if anything changes
 
DAY 19
Well I luckily managed to control myself and didn't gorge at the potluck, but it was almost all carbs since it seems there's never enough meat at these dinners. Took 2 caps before the big meal, but it's hard to judge if AP is working or not for me because the are no quick effects.

DAY 20
I used up the last of my 3 caps today. I wasn't quite with it today though, I was downing my shake and I realized it didn't quite have the usual kick. Sure enough I had forgotten to put the protein powder in :( And I was stuck in classes for the next 4 hours straight. Other than that I can't say a whole lot about YG except that I tried throwing it back at dinner and it definitely calls for capping.

I'm going to let the results speak for themselves, just got to keep giving it time. I'm going to be doing 1g x 3 per day for the next few days and see how that goes. I will keep my carb meals the same at about 70g or so with the YG, but I might bump it up if I notice I get hungrier quicker or anything to suggest more carbs would be useful.
 
DAY 21:
Today was a rest day, but it was a REALLY restful day. I got in quite a few hours of studying, and didn't leave the house so basically no extra calorie burning at all. After days like these I usually feel a bit bloated around my gut the next day, which I didn't experience this morning. I ate about 300 above my target and that's with YG and carbs, and I have to say I think this convinced me YG is helping.

I'm looking as lean as when I started and am up about 5 pounds or so during this log. I'm up 10 since Oct 10th my Thanksgiving, I recapped another round of YG to 540mg/cap, and was going to start doing 2caps per meal, but one cap seems to be effective enough for me.

Changes noticed:
- tighter abs
- sore knees, but that's not from AP

I've put on muscle so I've got more mass, but I wouldn't say there has been any noticeable change in definition except a bit for my abs. I'm liking YG so far; there's no way to "feel that it's working" but I'm seeing results and my keeping everything else pretty steady I'd have to say that it is helping me with my lean bulk.

Edit: Some people asked me to mention what carbs I take with my YG, so I will try and post what my carb meals were.

Dosing:
Morning: 120g Oats (70g CHO)
Lunch: Sweetpotato, Wholewheat Biscotti and Veggies (65g CHO)
Dinner: Beans and Veggies (60g CHO)
 
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DAY 22:

Today was an awesome workout, although my left knee is starting to feel sore. I take 1/4tsp bulk Cissus 24% right upon waking to help lower cortisol and help my joints. I also take Glucosamine, but I think I'm beating up my knee joint somehow. I only do a leg workout about every 5 days, and I haven't been jogging since the summer so I don't know why they're still sore. I might start taking 1/4 tsp. after my workout.

Dosing: 540mg with
Breakfast: 120g Oat Bran
PostWO: Buttnerut Squash Soup, Pea Soup Immediately post-WO, Sweet potatoes + Veggie Stew 1 Hour after, ~140g CHO
Dinner: Leftover Sweetpotato, Veggies and Beans (65 CHO)

After that lunch I'm feeling kind of bloated, was a bit too much carbs for my body probably should have taken 2 YG.
 
DAY 42:

This has come a long way. I've been continually dosing the YG at ~580mg per cap, and one cap 10mins before my oatmeal breakfast (80g Complex Carbs), my PWO Meal (~80g Carbs, mostly complex from sweetpotatoes beans, etc) and with a meal around 5-6pm that has atleast 60g carbs. I've been eating about 300-500cal over maintenance on most days, with an extra 300-500cals depending on my workouts that day.

As far as bowel movements, I've definitely noticed some patterns. If I take in <35g of fibre the day previous, about 20 minutes after finishing my massive bowl of porridge I will find I have some soft stools. I suppose if I had very little fiber I might get it even softer, but I usually get about 40g+ of fiber daily so I just have a sizeable dump after breakfast, not a cause for concern at all.

The main issue is fat gain; I am having another body analysis done on Saturday, so I'll have my % then. I stopped taking creatine 2 weeks ago so I lost a bit of water weight so I can't just go by that, so I will update you guys on that. As far as strength goes, I think it is pretty independent of YG which is just a nutrient partitioner, but I've had some decent gains in the gym. I'll see how my squat is today, but overall everything is going well. Personally I need a fair bit of carbs to keep myself energized so I really like taking YG with my carbs.

Can I say YG "blocks the fat cells" from getting glucose and shuttles it all to my muscles cells? Well I'm slightly skeptical, but I think it does help to some extent. On my off days, I feel that my large carb meals don't stick on me like they do w/out YG. I know when I initally started this log, people advised me to double up on my dosage to about 1g. I still have a bunch of caps with 590mg in them, but I might try doubling it up to 1g per meal for a week or two and see how it goes. I still have a fair bit of YG left so lot's of time to experiment, and I might be getting some more with my Christmas order since it's only $30 for 150g which lasts almost 3months at this rate! I'm looking into getting some corosolic acid to get even closer to the AP formulation, but NP doesn't carry it yet. I will try and keep this updated every couple of days still , exams are almost over now :)
 
Alright here's your Christmas update.

I got my body scan done on Saturday, and I have put on another 4 lbs of lean mass, but also 3 lbs of fat in the past month. I've been eating super clean, but I was eating over my maintenance by a bit more than I was used to; I suppose since I was studying so much I had about 300cal less per day because of lack of just walking here and there, which resulted in the fat gain. I still have been doing my 3 >60g CHO meals a day with 600mg YG.

Clearly it's not magic and there is still the basic rule about energy in and energy out; I'm not disillusioned by the fat gain because I'm super lean and can drop a few % when I get up to 10% bodyfat, but I was expecting to see almost no fatgain. I am having great results with strength and overall body comp; these last 5 lbs of muscle have really packed on nicely on my chest and legs.

I am not noticing the large post-breakfast bowel movements that I was noticing before; I have run out of oatbran that I often had for breakfast instead of my steelcut oats which can be a result of this. Overall it's hard to say if YG is working; I guess solid proof would have been me managing to get no fat gain while still putting on good LBM but that would be almost too perfect. I've still got probably another 1.5 months left of YG and will keep taking it, but I'm undecided right now if I will reorder it. Eating clean and just doing a bit of cardio might be all I need for my clean bulk, but at $30 for a few months supply it works out to pennies a day!
 
smeton_yea said:
so this stuff makes you hungry , takes inches off your waist and adds muscle, and makes it look fuller, if you have anythign else in order like Nutrition, sleep , and training huh?

Im tuned in
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First time taking YG this morning and I was out and about buying sQuinoa and dam I began to feel like I had not eaten in days!!!
 
boxmeman said:
First time taking YG this morning and I was out and about buying sQuinoa and dam I began to feel like I had not eaten in days!!!
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I've found sometimes it gives me a massive appetite, and sometimes not. I think it depends on how fast it gets absorbed; today after my YG + Lunch I'm stuffed, but on my high carb pm meal last night I was starving and went through 4 massive hearty bowls of soup like it was pure water.
 
Steveoph said:
I've found sometimes it gives me a massive appetite, and sometimes not. I think it depends on how fast it gets absorbed; today after my YG + Lunch I'm stuffed, but on my high carb pm meal last night I was starving and went through 4 massive hearty bowls of soup like it was pure water.
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It basically is water lol
 
DAY 56
Well my lean bulk is coming along well. I've put on a few pounds of fat, but I'm still going to be bulking into January, when hopefully I'll be starting an X Factor log. My strength has been improving nicely,

I feel like I should be updating my log daily, but really this product isn't something that affects me on a day to day basis. I basically take it with my 3 large carb meals, same dose every day and always 10 minutes before eating. I've tried taking it when I eat as well, and there was no noticeable difference. I just recapped another round at 570mg per cap. I'll try and post any things I notice day to day, but really I haven't found any effects really. No anabolic dumps, although when I get back to university I'm going to load up on oat bran and perhaps those crazy breakfasts are what causes them for me, so I'll keep you updated. I think I've probably got another month and a bit left, so I'll be keeping this updated until the end of January when I'll post final #'s and my overall impression. If you guys got any questions about Yellow Gold just ask :)
 
smeton_yea said:
Have you tryed dosing at 1,000 mgs three times daily ?

do you think this could work greater?
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When I get back to university next week, I'll try doing 1150 mg (2 caps) for a few days and will log each of those days specifically to let you guys know what I find if anything. I've taken 2 caps in the past and tried varying the time before I eat, and didn't notice anything. I've even taken 2 caps then waited for 30 minutes to see if I would become extra hungry or any changes and didn't notice anything, but I remember reading USPLabs saying that it shouldn't make you feel super hungry because it only potentiates the muscle cells to uptake glucose and doesn't affect insulin, or something along those lines.
 
Great log man! I'm thinking about running this with my cutting stack this spring or wait till my end of summer recomp.
 
smeton_yea said:
so it does have extra benefits dosing at two caps?
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I think that it would; the way I see YG is sort of something that opens the "floodgates" of nutrients into the muscle cells; 600mg would open the gates say a certain amount, and doubling the dose would further optimize the muscle cells for nutrients.

In the past when I took two caps I didn't actually feel any different, but when I try this next week for a few days of double-dosing I'll let you guys know. I think this is why AP has the banaba extract (Corosolic Acid), it helps the muscle cells become even more receptive to the extra glucose.
 
DAYS 57-59

Still continuing to take the YG as before, will start doubling up doses on Tuesday I think. Haven't noticed anything over the last few days worth noting. My lean bulk is coming along nicely and I've survived English Christmas, got a big meal tomorrow night for Ukrainian Christmas then I've made it through :) I just finished up my bulk cooking for when I head back to university, got lots of chili, beef stew and chicken made :)
 
Vipersg123 said:
I wish I understood why I can't take YG... i took it for like 3 weeks then 1 day I took my normal dose and could not stop vomiting... then I tried anabolic pump and the same thing happened vomiting until blood started coming up... guess I became allergic to it or something.
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classical conditioning
 
psychology term. heard of pavlov's dog? basically, b/c vic threw up trying to consume YG, his mind/reflexes thereafter associated any other supplement (stimulus generalization) he would try to consume with the same response.
 
MOHAWKA said:
psychology term. heard of pavlov's dog? basically, b/c vic threw up trying to consume YG, his mind/reflexes thereafter associated any other supplement (stimulus generalization) he would try to consume with the same response.
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I lobe Psychology and have used it to overcome barriers. So that said you can do the dose again and see if you throw up..and if you do this time maybe its something to this,if its always a pattern or most of the time.
 
Steveoph said:
I think that it would; the way I see YG is sort of something that opens the "floodgates" of nutrients into the muscle cells; 600mg would open the gates say a certain amount, and doubling the dose would further optimize the muscle cells for nutrients.

In the past when I took two caps I didn't actually feel any different, but when I try this next week for a few days of double-dosing I'll let you guys know. I think this is why AP has the banaba extract (Corosolic Acid), it helps the muscle cells become even more receptive to the extra glucose.
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is the banaba from the Lagerstroemia?

Yellow gold seems like a promising supp, results similar to AP's while easy on the wallet. nice. ill probably run it in the spring.
 
What if instead of taking a fixed amount of Yellow Gold with a consistently high amount of carbs each meal, it were taken at a dose proportional to the amount of carbs eaten. For example, in a really lean bulk you might want just 30-40g of carbs in a certain meal, so you might take 300mg-400mg or so with that meal. Then for pre/post workout meals with significantly higher carbs, i.e. >70g, perhaps up to 1g of Yellow Gold were taken. I'm interested in using Yellow Gold as a way to keep me somewhat more hypoglycemic even when I eat carbs at a time I normally shouldn't. Sort of like a way to cheat on meals to make it almost as though you had pure protein when really you had 30g carbs.. that your adipocytes didn't know about thanks to the YG.

I think YG proportional to carbs would be a cool method of taking it. Just a thought.
 
MOHAWKA said:
psychology term. heard of pavlov's dog? basically, b/c vic threw up trying to consume YG, his mind/reflexes thereafter associated any other supplement (stimulus generalization) he would try to consume with the same response.
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I used to have a problem blushing. I read in a psychology paper that if you try the extreme opposite of what sounds normal than the problem would stop. So the next time I had to present in school I thought "BLUSH AS HARD AS YOU CAN!!!" and i didn't blush at all.
 
goslamacamel said:
What if instead of taking a fixed amount of Yellow Gold with a consistently high amount of carbs each meal, it were taken at a dose proportional to the amount of carbs eaten. For example, in a really lean bulk you might want just 30-40g of carbs in a certain meal, so you might take 300mg-400mg or so with that meal. Then for pre/post workout meals with significantly higher carbs, i.e. >70g, perhaps up to 1g of Yellow Gold were taken.

I'm interested in using Yellow Gold as a way to keep me somewhat more hypoglycemic even when I eat carbs at a time I normally shouldn't. Sort of like a way to cheat on meals to make it almost as though you had pure protein when really you had 30g carbs.. that your adipocytes didn't know about thanks to the YG.

I think YG proportional to carbs would be a cool method of taking it. Just a thought.
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Great insight on the lower dose and lowre carbs meals and higher dose on higher carb meals. Were really getting advanced=)
 
Double Doses!

So here`s an update for you guys. For the last 2 days I`ve taken two caps of YG (so roughly 1.2g) with my 3 large carb meals per day. I have noticed thus far almost no difference at all with respect to satiety and any other possible effects. My muscles feel the same, my two workouts were just average days and I didn`t feel that the meal digested quicker or anything. I`m going to keep doing double doses for the next 3 days, but if I haven`t noticed any differences I might just drop down to me 570mg per meal dose.
 
Steveoph said:
Double Doses!

So here`s an update for you guys. For the last 2 days I`ve taken two caps of YG (so roughly 1.2g) with my 3 large carb meals per day. I have noticed thus far almost no difference at all with respect to satiety and any other possible effects. My muscles feel the same, my two workouts were just average days and I didn`t feel that the meal digested quicker or anything. I`m going to keep doing double doses for the next 3 days, but if I haven`t noticed any differences I might just drop down to me 570mg per meal dose.
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My sweet spot was between 1-1.5gr. I forgot are you doing with meals or before? I waited about 30min before eating and that seemed to work better than the 15min. JMO, hope it helps!
 
Distilled Water said:
I waited about 30min before eating and that seemed to work better than the 15min.
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Agreed. I've noticed a pretty big diference taking YG or p-slin 30-45 min before carbs, as opposed to right before.
 
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