Wife Has COVID-19

[rob112]

 

[Kronic]

my GF wants to hang out on New year's Eve, she will be 9 days since showing symptoms then. still not confirmed if actually it's actually covid.

I'm glad I bought her a thermometer gun before we left. she's 98 degrees now. so I'm thinking it might be safe to see her New year's eve

 

[rob112]

my GF wants to hang out on New year's Eve, she will be 9 days since showing symptoms then. still not confirmed if actually it's actually covid.

I'm glad I bought her a thermometer gun before we left. she's 98 degrees now. so I'm thinking it might be safe to see her New year's eve

She’s a boy band from the early 2’s? Lol

Around me it’s a pain to get tested Bc everyone thinks everything is Covid it’s nuts. I had to call around for at home for the boy and luckily found one. Even urgent cares said like 2 days out.

 

[rob112]

israel is recommending a 2nd booster shot-number 4 in total for those over 60.

pop quiz-for you guys who are 'fully vaxxed' how many booster shots are you willing to get?
3
4
5
as many as it takes.

1984 shots

 

[GreenMachineX]

my GF wants to hang out on New year's Eve, she will be 9 days since showing symptoms then. still not confirmed if actually it's actually covid.

I'm glad I bought her a thermometer gun before we left. she's 98 degrees now. so I'm thinking it might be safe to see her New year's eve

Have you had it yet?

 

[mase1]

Should just call it the covid shot, like we call it the flu shot. No vaccination going on, hopefully less severe for the old and out of shape population. But clearly not helping as more deaths with a vaccine then without. Of course someone will say Delta, had it not a big deal. Others maybe a big deal. Again 75% vaccinated population and here we are. Just proof that vaccines are not 95% effective as claimed and not effective enough to be mandated.

 

[Kronic]

She’s a boy band from the early 2’s? Lol

Around me it’s a pain to get tested Bc everyone thinks everything is Covid it’s nuts. I had to call around for at home for the boy and luckily found one. Even urgent cares said like 2 days out.

I was gonna ask her to test but I guess people are positive for a while after not being contagious

 

[Kronic]

Have you had it yet?

probably not. she got me sick coming back from Hawaii 2 years ago but we don't know if it was covid. I haven't tested antibodies. never lost sense of taste or smell. I'm gonna guess I have been asymptomatic and encountered it

 

[rob112]

http://instagr.am/p/CX_5uHfOkJ9/
You guys should follow these guys. Apparently the CO2 we breath in daily masked at work is higher than what OSHA allows. I didn’t read the links yet but interesting none the less

 

[HIT4ME]

I thought I made myself pretty clear by now, but just to clear any confusion:

1.) I think vaccines are effective at reducing the severity of infection and likelihood of hospitalization or death. (A simple, straightforward statement. No need to read anything more, or less, into it.)

2.) I am against all covid vaccine mandates. (Same as above)

In all of the scenarios and formula you laid out, unless I missed it, you neglected to include the possibility that the emergence of the Delta variant is responsible for the increased death rate. It is not disputed that Delta is a more virulent strain of the virus. Did you simply forget about Delta?

So we agree on #2 - it's #1 is a little more nuanced. I don't 100% disagree with you and may not really disagree at all. What I disagree with is the myth that the vaccine is 90% effective, or that it will solve the problem, etc.

I'm open to the possibility that the Delta variant has had an impact on the increased death rates - and I've been trying to eliminate some variables for simplicity - but early reports suggested the Delta variant was possibly 2x as deadly, but this wasn't for certain.

So if we have a 90% effective vaccine in 75% of the population and a virus that kills twice as many people - we should see a little more than half the # of deaths in the population than without the vaccine with the prior virus and 1/4 the deaths we would have seen with the new virus and no vaccine.

Clearly this isn't happening.

Having said that - I'm not saying it has had 0 effect. The early Pfizer data, according to some critics who requested public release of more info (not sure if it ever happened) - suggested a real efficacy of somewhere around 30%. The marketing department at Pfizer didn't use that number of course.

I think 30-50% seems to play out with the math at hand - as you've pointed out, we have a more deadly virus so that factors into the number of deaths.

Is the vaccine useless? No. Is the dogma around the vaccine dangerous? It could be.

Good discussion my friend, thanks for going back and forth with me in a reasonable fashion...it's hard to have these conversations, especially in writing.

 

[THOR 70]

View attachment 211186

He needs held accountable like someone in the show would have been.

 

[SkRaw85]

http://instagr.am/p/CX_5uHfOkJ9/
You guys should follow these guys. Apparently the CO2 we breath in daily masked at work is higher than what OSHA allows. I didn’t read the links yet but interesting none the less

Correct. This is responsible for the major drop in IQ during recent times.

 

[GreenMachineX]

Correct. This is responsible for the major drop in IQ during recent times.

Lol

 

[thebigt]

1984 shots

1984 was a good van halen album...but i gotta go with prince-it's time to party like it's 1999.


although personally 1984 was a great year--the year i was discharged from the navy and moved to the philippines....being a young/single man living in olongapo city in the 80s was a wet dream come true...just sayin.

 

[AdelV]

I'm not anti-vax, I've been waiting for Novavax.
Otherwise I'll never be able to travel I assume.

i don't head out much either, woke up today with a sore throat and runny nose which is odd
I have asthma too, so it's a little concerning and I know my symptoms very well.

 

[GreenMachineX]

I'm not anti-vax, I've been waiting for Novavax.
Otherwise I'll never be able to travel I assume.

i don't head out much either, woke up today with a sore throat and runny nose which is odd
I have asthma too, so it's a little concerning and I know my symptoms very well.

Are you going to get tested?

 

[Kronic]

I'm not anti-vax, I've been waiting for Novavax.
Otherwise I'll never be able to travel I assume.

i don't head out much either, woke up today with a sore throat and runny nose which is odd
I have asthma too, so it's a little concerning and I know my symptoms very well.

could be allergies? got a headache?

 

[rob112]

1984 was a good van halen album...but i gotta go with prince-it's time to party like it's 1999.


although personally 1984 was a great year--the year i was discharged from the navy and moved to the philippines....being a young/single man living in olongapo city in the 80s was a wet dream come true...just sayin.

1984 is one of if not the best book I’ve ever read…also the year I was born. Halen with Roth was killer…and Prince was a beast! Yea I said it

 

[HIT4ME]

I'm not anti-vax, I've been waiting for Novavax.
Otherwise I'll never be able to travel I assume.

i don't head out much either, woke up today with a sore throat and runny nose which is odd
I have asthma too, so it's a little concerning and I know my symptoms very well.

Well, some potentially good news - a recently study suggest that allergies, such as asthma, reduce the risk of developing covid apparently. Go figure.

 

[thebigt]

1984 is one of if not the best book I’ve ever read…also the year I was born. Halen with Roth was killer…and Prince was a beast! Yea I said it

i knew you were talking about the orwell book...was just trying to insert a little humor into this otherwise sad and humorless thread...

my favorite van hale song-aint talkin bout love...favorite prince-when doves cry.

i was livin large in olongapo the year you were born-imagine that, lol...google olongapo 80s

 

[AdelV]

Well, some potentially good news - a recently study suggest that allergies, such as asthma, reduce the risk of developing covid apparently. Go figure.

Are you going to get tested?

could be allergies? got a headache?

Probably not, my mother is normal as I'm with her while I build my house.

I haven't even left the house since Christmas. I did drink alot, and normally drinking destorys my immune system.

I took vitamins, my nose is starting to dry up and sore throat is slowly disappearing.

I think line ups to get tested here are 5-6 hours, I ain't waiting that long :/

Interesting about Asthma!

 

[thebigt]

Truth For Health Foundation

 

[mechka_grizli]

http://instagr.am/p/CX_5uHfOkJ9/
You guys should follow these guys. Apparently the CO2 we breath in daily masked at work is higher than what OSHA allows. I didn’t read the links yet but interesting none the less

Statement is false and has been proven false time and time again

This what im talking about with some of the views expressed in this thread. That's a link from an obviously biased source. The agenda is apparent after only a few clicks. LEFT leaning or RIGHT leaning, we gotta stop trusting stuff just cause it aligns with the beliefs we already have

 

[thebigt]

Statement is false and has been proven false time and time again

cnn is not instructing the general public to wear N95 masks to protect against omicron variant?

 

[Kronic]

cnn is not instructing the general public to wear N95 masks to protect against omicron variant?

n95 are safe afaik. they have been required at many locations for a while now. the airforce base my dad works at has required them for a while now. surgical masks are not good enough for many. if they are recommending n95 for everyone now, it's because they aren't worried about supply for medical staff. that's the only reason fauci backpedaled on n95 in the first place.

 

[thebigt]

n95 are safe afaik. they have been required at many locations for a while now. the airforce base my dad works at has required them for a while now. surgical masks are not good enough for many. if they are recommending n95 for everyone now, it's because they aren't worried about supply for medical staff. that's he only reason fauci backpedaled on n95 in the first place.

i thought he said that statement was false and had been proven false time and time again?

WTH?

 

[Kronic]

i thought he said that statement was false and had been proven false time and time again?

WTH?

sounds like fauci

 

[rob112]

Statement is false and has been proven false time and time again

This what im talking about with some of the views expressed in this thread. That's a link from an obviously biased source. The agenda is apparent after only a few clicks. LEFT leaning or RIGHT leaning, we gotta stop trusting stuff just cause it aligns with the beliefs we already have

I’ll take your source if you got it. I wouldn’t be surprised if hyperbolic, but heard similar from a
few people with health monitoring watches so it sounded plausible.

And dude no need to get all upset. It used to be pretty common in the time before “words are violence” where people would exchange information and let the best information rise.

In the before time, in the long long ago…

 

[Kronic]

I’ll take your source if you got it. I wouldn’t be surprised if hyperbolic, but heard similar from a
few people with health monitoring watches so it sounded plausible.

And dude no need to get all upset. It used to be pretty common in the time before “words are violence” where people would exchange information and let the best information rise.

In the before time, in the long long ago…

shouldn't it be easilly detectable with a pulse oximeter? also I don't think he was upset. he has been in this thread for a while and contributes level headed opinions

 

[rob112]

shouldn't it be easilly detectable with a pulse oximeter? also I don't think he was upset. he has been in this thread for a while and contributes level headed opinions

Yea that’s what it was. I heard A couple podcasters, but they didn’t make like a huge deal just mentioned in passing.

I guess it was the way it was worded. I clearly said it was interesting BUT I need to look into it. Unfortunately the article is long as hell with sources, and haven’t had time yet.

If I took the tone wrong Mechi my bad no hard feelings. Sometimes it’s hard to get tone through text.

 

[Kronic]

Yea that’s what it was. I heard A couple podcasters, but they didn’t make like a huge deal just mentioned in passing.

I guess it was the way it was worded. I clearly said it was interesting BUT I need to look into it. Unfortunately the article is long as hell with sources, and haven’t had time yet.

If I took the tone wrong Mechi my bad no hard feelings. Sometimes it’s hard to get tone through text.

sheet now I wanna test it. my guess is that some people have better lung function than others and it only effects some people. I bet I couldn't reproduce it. I mostly worry about the kids in school supposed to be learning. if it's true, it's probably hindering some less fortunate kids' development.

 

[GreenMachineX]

shouldn't it be easilly detectable with a pulse oximeter? also I don't think he was upset. he has been in this thread for a while and contributes level headed opinions

Wearing masks has never affected my oxygen or heart rate on a pulse oximeter.

 

[HIT4ME]

Wearing masks has never affected my oxygen or heart rate on a pulse oximeter.

"The sole source of the validity of any idea is the experiment." -Richard Feynman

Somehow I should have expected GreenmachineX to be the one who already ran this experiment.

 

[Nodus1]

Statement is false and has been proven false time and time again

This what im talking about with some of the views expressed in this thread. That's a link from an obviously biased source. The agenda is apparent after only a few clicks. LEFT leaning or RIGHT leaning, we gotta stop trusting stuff just cause it aligns with the beliefs we already have

Where has that statement been proven false? I've seen sources (like the Mayo Clinic) state that the rise in cO2 "is not significant", but nothing which refutes the facts stated on the "Just Facts" site.

Is it the Just Facts site you claim has an agenda? What is the agenda? I looked at their mask articles and I see several studies cited and opinions from doctors from institutions such as Stanford University.

 

[HIT4ME]

Ok, I'm not sure that the CO2 mask thing stating that levels are above OSHA limits means much to me. OSHA is a money-making scheme and they set rules and requirements to be met, with no risk and plenty of margin for error. They have a history of ridiculous requirements, just like any other entity setting such requirements. Not saying they are all bad - just that you need a grain of salt suggesting that any minimal increase above OSHA guidelines is imminently dangerous.

Having said that, here's some info on the subject that 10 minutes of Google afforded me:

What can you expect to happen at various levels of CO2?

https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2015-06/documents/co2appendixb.pdf

Is there an increase in CO2 from wearing a mask - it appears the answer is YES. Is this increase clinically significant based on the above link? Maybe, but probably not.

Carbon dioxide increases with face masks but remains below short-term NIOSH limits - BMC Infectious Diseases

Background and purpose COVID-19 pandemic led to wide-spread use of face-masks, respirators and other personal protective equipment (PPE) by healthcare workers. Various symptoms attributed to the use of PPE are believed to be, at least in part, due to elevated carbon-dioxide (CO2) levels. We...

bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2781743

Carbon dioxide increases with face masks but remains below short-term NIOSH limits - PubMed

Although, significant increase in CO2 concentrations are noted with routinely used face-masks, the levels still remain within the NIOSH limits for short-term use. Therefore, there should not be a concern in their regular day-to-day use for healthcare providers. The clinical implications of...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

It may be seen, by some, as ironic that some of the "no place for fear mongering" advocates are suggesting the CO2 increase from a mask is something to be afraid of.

 

[rob112]

Ok, I'm not sure that the CO2 mask thing stating that levels are above OSHA limits means much to me. OSHA is a money-making scheme and they set rules and requirements to be met, with no risk and plenty of margin for error. They have a history of ridiculous requirements, just like any other entity setting such requirements. Not saying they are all bad - just that you need a grain of salt suggesting that any minimal increase above OSHA guidelines is imminently dangerous.

Having said that, here's some info on the subject that 10 minutes of Google afforded me:

What can you expect to happen at various levels of CO2?

https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2015-06/documents/co2appendixb.pdf

Is there an increase in CO2 from wearing a mask - it appears the answer is YES. Is this increase clinically significant based on the above link? Maybe, but probably not.

Carbon dioxide increases with face masks but remains below short-term NIOSH limits - BMC Infectious Diseases

Background and purpose COVID-19 pandemic led to wide-spread use of face-masks, respirators and other personal protective equipment (PPE) by healthcare workers. Various symptoms attributed to the use of PPE are believed to be, at least in part, due to elevated carbon-dioxide (CO2) levels. We...

bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2781743

Carbon dioxide increases with face masks but remains below short-term NIOSH limits - PubMed

Although, significant increase in CO2 concentrations are noted with routinely used face-masks, the levels still remain within the NIOSH limits for short-term use. Therefore, there should not be a concern in their regular day-to-day use for healthcare providers. The clinical implications of...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

It may be seen, by some, as ironic that some of the "no place for fear mongering" advocates are suggesting the CO2 increase from a mask is something to be afraid of.

Yea the point of sharing wasn’t like “we are all gonna die from masks” it was more of a haha the government contradicts itself, again. I work and have worked in several OSHA regulated fields and they are over top for sure. For example you can’t go above like 6 feet without harness or enclosure.

Myself and several others have noticed, and may be internal biases, that once having them off for awhile breathing better; anecdotally. That doesn’t mean I think it’s killing me. I do however worry about the effects on developing minds not seeing facial expressions. In my humble opinion it is very helping for judging situations and people…in particular bad situations with shady people.

Whole different issue. I actually thought to write the OSHA thing but I am always afraid of saying too much in the age of 150 characters or less. Since you write that way maybe I will too at times to avoid any confusion on my interest in sharing a particular set of information.

 

[Kronic]

it's definitely easier to breath without a mask, I think everyone can agree on that. I think it's probably mostly due to the air in the mask being warmer though. my whole body gets warmer while wearing masks usually. maybe wearing masks promotes thermogenic fat burning lol

 

[GreenMachineX]

Yea the point of sharing wasn’t like “we are all gonna die from masks” it was more of a haha the government contradicts itself, again. I work and have worked in several OSHA regulated fields and they are over top for sure. For example you can’t go above like 6 feet without harness or enclosure.

Myself and several others have noticed, and may be internal biases, that once having them off for awhile breathing better; anecdotally. That doesn’t mean I think it’s killing me. I do however worry about the effects on developing minds not seeing facial expressions. In my humble opinion it is very helping for judging situations and people…in particular bad situations with shady people.

Whole different issue. I actually thought to write the OSHA thing but I am always afraid of saying too much in the age of 150 characters or less. Since you write that way maybe I will too at times to avoid any confusion on my interest in sharing a particular set of information.

I noticed that while I worked at a gym, we all became very good at reading the eyes while wearing masks. Just thought it was interesting.

 

[McBurly]

I wear a surgical mask (not n95) for 8-12 hours a day at work (minus a lunch and 10min break). Running up and down 2 flights of stairs regularly and throwing freight (40lbs to 85lb boxes) depending upon the load that shows up that day. I have no problem breathing. Its all in your head.

 

[Kronic]

I wear a surgical mask (not n95) for 8-12 hours a day at work (minus a lunch and 10min break). Running up and down 2 flights of stairs regularly and throwing freight (40lbs to 85lb boxes) depending upon the load that shows up that day. I have no problem breathing. Its all in your head.

this is overly dismissive.
12 hours with a mask and you don't look like this?

 

[GreenMachineX]

this is overly dismissive. View attachment 211222
12 hours with a mask and you don't look like this?

I never did.

 

[Kronic]

I never did.

huh I start to get bruising on my nose pretty fast

 

[GreenMachineX]

huh I start to get bruising on my nose pretty fast

Maybe it depends on the type of mask. When my face is fat and bloated lol, I get the lines on my cheeks, but as long as I eat clean, no big deal.

 

[HIT4ME]

Yea the point of sharing wasn’t like “we are all gonna die from masks” it was more of a haha the government contradicts itself, again. I work and have worked in several OSHA regulated fields and they are over top for sure. For example you can’t go above like 6 feet without harness or enclosure.

Myself and several others have noticed, and may be internal biases, that once having them off for awhile breathing better; anecdotally. That doesn’t mean I think it’s killing me. I do however worry about the effects on developing minds not seeing facial expressions. In my humble opinion it is very helping for judging situations and people…in particular bad situations with shady people.

Whole different issue. I actually thought to write the OSHA thing but I am always afraid of saying too much in the age of 150 characters or less. Since you write that way maybe I will too at times to avoid any confusion on my interest in sharing a particular set of information.

Haha - My comment wasn't really pointed at YOU or anyone in the thread per se, although we all have some of these beliefs from the outside, it is just that I found a general irony in the fact that the MOST anti-mask people are usually also the MOST anti-vax and then will use logic like, "CO2 levels go up 1% while wearing a mask! Why aren't they telling everyone this?!"

But yeah, gov't and the general public is full of contradictions and I think this is why Mechka was pushing back a little. Sometimes someone makes a crazy statement that seems to support their side but if it goes to far it actually hurts the main arguement and this is on both sides. There are some REALLY looney liberals and some pretty looney conservatives out there.

As far as 150 characters - ha. I'm lucky if I can do 150 words or less. Share your full thoughts, this is Anabolic Minds, not "We can't read so limit your text to 1 line" Twitter.

it's definitely easier to breath without a mask, I think everyone can agree on that. I think it's probably mostly due to the air in the mask being warmer though. my whole body gets warmer while wearing masks usually. maybe wearing masks promotes thermogenic fat burning lol

I wonder if they have done any studies on altitude training masks!?

 

[rob112]

I wear a surgical mask (not n95) for 8-12 hours a day at work (minus a lunch and 10min break). Running up and down 2 flights of stairs regularly and throwing freight (40lbs to 85lb boxes) depending upon the load that shows up that day. I have no problem breathing. Its all in your head.

I’ve had to wear a mask at work the whole pandemic too. I never said I can’t breathe, it just subjectively feels much better breathing without one. I love getting done work and taking it off. Maybe you don’t notice it and forget to take it off and wear it to bed I don’t know. To each their own. No biggie.

 

[thebigt]

n95 are safe afaik. they have been required at many locations for a while now. the airforce base my dad works at has required them for a while now. surgical masks are not good enough for many. if they are recommending n95 for everyone now, it's because they aren't worried about supply for medical staff. that's the only reason fauci backpedaled on n95 in the first place.

recommending is one thing...it is my opinion that money would be better spent to send everyone a couple of EFFECTIVE N95 masks rather than covid tests...what the hell are people who test positive going to do-there is no instructions--i see paranoid people overwhelming a already overwhelmed hospital system.

btw-my wife and i wear masks everytime we are in public as a courtesy, even though we understand the masks we buy at CVS aren't going to be very effective, we would actually appreciate receiving in the mail a effective N95 mask or 2.

i looked at what the N95 masks look like, if they are available to public i have not seen ANYONE here where i live wearing one--although i will say i have been seeing more and more people wearing the cheap paper and cloth masks like my wife and i wear.

 

[rob112]

Haha - My comment wasn't really pointed at YOU or anyone in the thread per se, although we all have some of these beliefs from the outside, it is just that I found a general irony in the fact that the MOST anti-mask people are usually also the MOST anti-vax and then will use logic like, "CO2 levels go up 1% while wearing a mask! Why aren't they telling everyone this?!"

But yeah, gov't and the general public is full of contradictions and I think this is why Mechka was pushing back a little. Sometimes someone makes a crazy statement that seems to support their side but if it goes to far it actually hurts the main arguement and this is on both sides. There are some REALLY looney liberals and some pretty looney conservatives out there.

As far as 150 characters - ha. I'm lucky if I can do 150 words or less. Share your full thoughts, this is Anabolic Minds, not "We can't read so limit your text to 1 line" Twitter.




I wonder if they have done any studies on altitude training masks!?

I hate how all the terminology has changed and now everything has to be qualified with over explanation due to this weird Orwellian world we are living in. For example you could have the Covid vaccine and 20 others, just believe in personal choice, and you are an anti-vaxer.

What is an anti-masker by those standards? Someone who doesn’t believe it should be mandated yet they still wear one ever day? Or someone who does’t wear them but is okay with mandating other people pro mask?

It’s all goofy to me. Just know if I can point out government contradictions I will. I don’t like giving tons of my money to my own oppressors who bomb the living hell out of the world, make the largest prison system in the world, and steal from its own citizens. Left, right, center, I don’t care. I just want more people to question authority.

 

[thebigt]

Haha - My comment wasn't really pointed at YOU or anyone in the thread per se, although we all have some of these beliefs from the outside, it is just that I found a general irony in the fact that the MOST anti-mask people are usually also the MOST anti-vax and then will use logic like, "CO2 levels go up 1% while wearing a mask! Why aren't they telling everyone this?!"

But yeah, gov't and the general public is full of contradictions and I think this is why Mechka was pushing back a little. Sometimes someone makes a crazy statement that seems to support their side but if it goes to far it actually hurts the main arguement and this is on both sides. There are some REALLY looney liberals and some pretty looney conservatives out there.

As far as 150 characters - ha. I'm lucky if I can do 150 words or less. Share your full thoughts, this is Anabolic Minds, not "We can't read so limit your text to 1 line" Twitter.




I wonder if they have done any studies on altitude training masks!?

i don't fit into a square box. i'm a conservative who supports having a safety net[welfare]... i am also pro-life this means i'm not only against abortion but also against capital punishment..my being against COVID vaccines is based mostly on my having already had covid BEFORE vaccines were readily available[march], but my wife and i each got a FLU shot this year and several years ago we got PNEUMONIA shots that are supposedly good for 7 years...AND we both have worn masks in public from the start!!!

 

[rob112]

i don't fit into a square box. i'm a conservative who supports having a safety net[welfare. i am also pro-life this means i'm not only against abortion but also against capital punishment..my being against COVID vaccines is based mostly on my having already had covid BEFORE vaccines were readily available[march], but my wife and i each got a FLU shot this year and several years ago we got PNEUMONIA shots that are supposedly good for 7 years...AND we both have worn masks in public from the start!!!

Exactly. I don’t like saying I am “x” therefor I think “y.” Like you shouldn’t know a persons stance on carbon fuel emissions due to how they feel about the 2nd amendment. Labels are just boxes for people who disagree with you to stuff you in and die(metaphorically).

TBone 2024 nah mean?

 

[mechka_grizli]

cnn is not instructing the general public to wear N95 masks to protect against omicron variant?

i thought he said that statement was false and had been proven false time and time again?

WTH?

The OSHA CO2 reference is what I was referring to and yes that has been disproven

recommending is one thing...it is my opinion that money would be better spent to send everyone a couple of EFFECTIVE N95 masks rather than covid tests...what the hell are people who test positive going to do-there is no instructions--i see paranoid people overwhelming a already overwhelmed hospital system.

btw-my wife and i wear masks everytime we are in public as a courtesy, even though we understand the masks we buy at CVS aren't going to be very effective, we would actually appreciate receiving in the mail a effective N95 mask or 2.

i looked at what the N95 masks look like, if they are available to public i have not seen ANYONE here where i live wearing one--although i will say i have been seeing more and more people wearing the cheap paper and cloth masks like my wife and i wear.

Home depot carries the N95. I personally wear the KN95 mask from Powecom. They were one of two that met the FDA's "rigorous ()" testing and passed.