RenegadeRows
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Oh and good idea to split up the doses to avoid the parasthesia. Does it help with your focus / mental clarity during the day as well?
Volcom’s, Controlled Labs NEW White Flood CAPS (Sponsored TESTER)
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VolcomX311
Legend
ROFL @ Mythology Hour. You've got a great sense of humor bro.
I don't think you give yourself enough credit. Sure sure, it's okay to blame the CL products, but I think most of that was your will to win, especially after a long day like that.
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VolcomX311
Legend
It's hard to give a definite yes or no, but more yes then no, because for myself, really solid focus only manifests in conjunction with physical activity. It needs to be triggered per se. I seem to be more mentally energized, meaning, I don't feel mentally beat and lethargic throughout the day, which is common for my butt crack of a rooster's dawn schedule. But the real focused & creative mental acuity occurs mostly intra workout. I do get pre-workout mental excitations from the WF, but the bulk of it manifests once I get moving.
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vikinginc
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Man, I'd love to be dosing that White Flood at a full 8 caps pre-workout ! mmm mmm mmm . . .
Damn, man, I've never seen more pressing for a deltoid workout . . How'd ya manage ? When your tris fail !? DID THEY !? Man, I've got deltoids coming up myself today, just got to have a PSlin and a carb meal . . and an Endorush . . and 6 grams of Beta Alanine . . and i'll be good to go ! I believe we got viking war-footage happening today; and from all this damned pressing, Volcom, I just MAY have met my match ! lol
Damn, man, I've never seen more pressing for a deltoid workout . . How'd ya manage ? When your tris fail !? DID THEY !? Man, I've got deltoids coming up myself today, just got to have a PSlin and a carb meal . . and an Endorush . . and 6 grams of Beta Alanine . . and i'll be good to go ! I believe we got viking war-footage happening today; and from all this damned pressing, Volcom, I just MAY have met my match ! lol
VolcomX311
Legend
Yes you would. The full serving of WF CAPS actually feel a little more intense then the two scoops of powder (in terms of paresthesia). I can't explain the logic (or mere subjective perception) of how dissolving drip CAPS can be more intense then a powder spike, or perhaps I'm misconstruing intensity for plain duration.... hmmm... either way, I had paresthesia for a good 3 hours, whereas, the powder usually last about 1.5 hours.
My tri's are a strange body part for me. They're not freebies in that I don't need to train them in order for them to develop, but they are naturally, highly enduring. My workout partner usually cannot go further in our chest routines due to a lack of ability to compound press (tri/delt fatigue) but I will remain perfectly okay in the tri area. My tri's hardly ever fatigue in shoulder days, compared to the load they have to share on chest days, shoulder days are pretty smooth sailing.
All that said, your delts look better, so whatever, you win.
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MrBrightside
Active member
Excellent descriptions as always, Volcom. I'll jump in here and study up.
VolcomX311
Legend
Good to have you Brightside.
VolcomX311
Legend
Day 4: Forearmacide
Occasionally, I like to really blast my forearms, with the emphasis on the brachioradialis and forearm extensors. Today was one of those days.
Forearmacide
Standing, Barbell Reverse Curls
65lbs x 12 reps
75lbs x 10 reps
85lbs x 8 reps
95lbs x 6 reps
Preacher, Short-Barbell Reverse Curls
35lbs x 10 reps
40lbs x 8 reps
45lbs x 7.5 reps
45lbs x 6 reps
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65lbs x 15 reps
75lbs x 12 reps
85lbs x 10 reps
95lbs x 6 reps
Seated, One Arm, Cable Reverse Curls - Suicide Grip Invalid Link Removed
50lbs x 15, each arm
60lbs x 12 reps, e.a.
70lbs x 8 reps, e.a.
80lbs x 8 reps, e.a.
90lbs x 6 reps, e.a.
No DOMS from my bi's workout or my shoulder workout. I've already moved my doses from 2/2/4 and it seems to be alright.
Occasionally, I like to really blast my forearms, with the emphasis on the brachioradialis and forearm extensors. Today was one of those days.
Forearmacide
Standing, Barbell Reverse Curls
65lbs x 12 reps
75lbs x 10 reps
85lbs x 8 reps
95lbs x 6 reps
Preacher, Short-Barbell Reverse Curls
35lbs x 10 reps
40lbs x 8 reps
45lbs x 7.5 reps
45lbs x 6 reps
Standing, Smith-Barbell Reverse Curls - Suicide Grip Invalid Link Removed
65lbs x 15 reps
75lbs x 12 reps
85lbs x 10 reps
95lbs x 6 reps
Seated, One Arm, Cable Reverse Curls - Suicide Grip Invalid Link Removed
50lbs x 15, each arm
60lbs x 12 reps, e.a.
70lbs x 8 reps, e.a.
80lbs x 8 reps, e.a.
90lbs x 6 reps, e.a.
No DOMS from my bi's workout or my shoulder workout. I've already moved my doses from 2/2/4 and it seems to be alright.
GreenSquats
Active member
What code are you using on all these freaking smileys. LOL.
Lemme try one. :suicide: Edit: Crud, it didn't work.
So the White Flood TABS are just as good or better even than the powder? Shiiiiit. I am def. getting these now.
Lemme try one. :suicide: Edit: Crud, it didn't work.
So the White Flood TABS are just as good or better even than the powder? Shiiiiit. I am def. getting these now.
VolcomX311
Legend
Volcom Monologue: White Flood & Beta Alanine
Volcom Monologue: White Flood & Beta Alanine
Firstly, I've been thinking to myself, asking questions and contemplating over how I could have experienced such an acute effect on lactate threshold, as (theorized) demonstrated during my last bi's workout, containing that ridiculous increase in performance.
Secondly, I realized I have been focusing a lot on the benefits of Beta Alanine in regards to White Flood and I asked myself, "what would I tell someone if they asked me, if Beta Alanine has been the prime catalyst of your sudden increase, then what are the benefits of using White Flood, over simply purchasing Bulk Alanine?" As BA has been the star of my discussions.
I came to a simple realization that could explain both inquiries. First we have to provide a simple explanation of what is a lactate threshold and how does it apply to performance.
Simply put, Lactate Threshold is your bodies ability to flush out lactic acid, as quickly as it's accumulating in the muscle (this is technically called the lactate steady state, but I don’t want to throw too many terms around). What separates a good sprinter from the winning sprinter, consists of a few variables, VO2 max, Explosive Speed, Acceleration, and Top Speed. The most significant culprit that separates the winner from everyone else, is actually the sprinter's lactate threshold. It's not who has the greatest explosive speed (off the line), it's not who reaches top speed the fastest (acceleration) and it's not who posses the fastest top speed, those are all weighed in, but the most significant factor, is who can maintain top speed the longest, which is regulated by your lactate threshold. Michael Johnson was never first off the line, nor was he the first to reach top speed, nor did he posses the fastest top speed, but what he was able to that separated him from the pack, was that he was able to “maintain” his top speed the longest and would continue to pull forward as the other sprinter's top speed began to diminish. Without getting into a big, detailed debate, this significant lactate threshold element holds true as a "general" rule, for superior performance.
Why did I bring this up? To paint the significance of your lactate threshold.
What the hell does this have to do with bodybuilding? The higher your lactate threshold, the more reps you can perform that would bring you closer to true muscle failure (rather then muscle fatigue as a result of lactic acid and H+ build up, we’ll get there.). Once you exceed your lactate threshold, then it becomes increasingly difficult to the point of impossible, to forcefully contract. Therefore, having a higher lactate threshold is a very powerful adaption to have.
Now that we know the importance of lactate threshold and we understand that Beta Alanine has a direct effect over this adaption, why White Flood and not just Bulk BA?
I came to this conclusion myself, I'm not pushing Controlled Labs nor am I doing this for the sake of CL nut-huggery (nor is this that brilliant, this may be common knowledge, but its something I thought about before I read it from someone else, which I’m sure it’s already been discussed here or somewhere). I come to rational, scientific conclusions and enjoy sharing them for enlightenment or scrutiny.
Before we continue, a subsidiary effect that coincides with the whole lactate threshold operation, are the build up of hydrogen ions. H+ is the byproduct of ATP, therefore, the more you contract, using ATP as fuel, the more H+ accumulates. H+ also causes the numbing and burning, which perpetuates the performance stunting effect discussed earlier.
In revisiting the definition of lactate threshold, lactate threshold is about your bodies ability to flush out lactic acid, as fast as it's building up. Beta-Alanine's role in this process has nothing to do with flushing, but buffering. BA is a rate limiting pre-cursor to carnosine and increased BA concentration leads to increased carnosine concentration, and carnosine buffers the accumulating H+ in the contracting muscle. This buffering of H+ allows you to perform a greater number of forceful contractions before the H+ associated muscle numbing manifests. This H+ buffering via the carnosine, via the beta-alanine will raise your lactate threshold and allow further forceful contractions without inhibition apart from muscle failure.
BA = Buffering, but increased Lactate Threshold is inherently regulated by flushing and circulation. This is where the White Flood comes into play. White Flood contains the combination of Arginine and Ornithine. Arginine and Ornithine are precursors to NO, which leads to vasodilation. Vasodilation increases blood flow, circulation and thus, would inherently aid in the flushing out of the lactic acid from working muscles.
Simple Review:
- Beta-Alanine = Buffering of H+ in contracting muscle.
- Arginine and Ornithine = Vasodilation = increased blood circulation = increased flushing of lactic acid from contracting muscles.
Both of these effects are the primary catalysts for an increase in lactate threshold. The BA will buffer H+ and therefore, lead to an increase in the lactate threshold, where the Arginine and Ornithine will further augment the increasing of the lactate threshold process with the aided vasodilation, thus, flushing.
Therefore, to answer my own first question. Perhaps all I was experience was a “slight” buffering of H+ but a significant increase in the assisted flushing of the lactic acid. Answer to question number two, everything above. H+ Buffering AND an enhanced plumbing system. This is what we in bodybuilding call, A Synergy. Without getting into the other benefits, BA/Arginine & Ornithine are a double edged sword to increasing Lactate Threshold.
I’m sure this was done with intent, having BA along side increased Vasodilation make for a great 2fer and a truly significant synergy which behaves as the proverbial double edged sword in increasing lactate threshold.
That’s all.
P.S. I don’t claim to know everything, nor do I get defensive if you don’t agree with my theories or simply think I’m full of it. I’m not the smartest guy here by FAR, so I don’t have myself on an intellectual pedastool where people must accept and agree with my personal ruminations. That said, I didn’t pull this from me arse. Just putting two and two together and expressing it for ya’llz.
Volcom Monologue: White Flood & Beta Alanine
Firstly, I've been thinking to myself, asking questions and contemplating over how I could have experienced such an acute effect on lactate threshold, as (theorized) demonstrated during my last bi's workout, containing that ridiculous increase in performance.
Secondly, I realized I have been focusing a lot on the benefits of Beta Alanine in regards to White Flood and I asked myself, "what would I tell someone if they asked me, if Beta Alanine has been the prime catalyst of your sudden increase, then what are the benefits of using White Flood, over simply purchasing Bulk Alanine?" As BA has been the star of my discussions.
I came to a simple realization that could explain both inquiries. First we have to provide a simple explanation of what is a lactate threshold and how does it apply to performance.
Simply put, Lactate Threshold is your bodies ability to flush out lactic acid, as quickly as it's accumulating in the muscle (this is technically called the lactate steady state, but I don’t want to throw too many terms around). What separates a good sprinter from the winning sprinter, consists of a few variables, VO2 max, Explosive Speed, Acceleration, and Top Speed. The most significant culprit that separates the winner from everyone else, is actually the sprinter's lactate threshold. It's not who has the greatest explosive speed (off the line), it's not who reaches top speed the fastest (acceleration) and it's not who posses the fastest top speed, those are all weighed in, but the most significant factor, is who can maintain top speed the longest, which is regulated by your lactate threshold. Michael Johnson was never first off the line, nor was he the first to reach top speed, nor did he posses the fastest top speed, but what he was able to that separated him from the pack, was that he was able to “maintain” his top speed the longest and would continue to pull forward as the other sprinter's top speed began to diminish. Without getting into a big, detailed debate, this significant lactate threshold element holds true as a "general" rule, for superior performance.
Why did I bring this up? To paint the significance of your lactate threshold.
What the hell does this have to do with bodybuilding? The higher your lactate threshold, the more reps you can perform that would bring you closer to true muscle failure (rather then muscle fatigue as a result of lactic acid and H+ build up, we’ll get there.). Once you exceed your lactate threshold, then it becomes increasingly difficult to the point of impossible, to forcefully contract. Therefore, having a higher lactate threshold is a very powerful adaption to have.
Now that we know the importance of lactate threshold and we understand that Beta Alanine has a direct effect over this adaption, why White Flood and not just Bulk BA?
I came to this conclusion myself, I'm not pushing Controlled Labs nor am I doing this for the sake of CL nut-huggery (nor is this that brilliant, this may be common knowledge, but its something I thought about before I read it from someone else, which I’m sure it’s already been discussed here or somewhere). I come to rational, scientific conclusions and enjoy sharing them for enlightenment or scrutiny.
Before we continue, a subsidiary effect that coincides with the whole lactate threshold operation, are the build up of hydrogen ions. H+ is the byproduct of ATP, therefore, the more you contract, using ATP as fuel, the more H+ accumulates. H+ also causes the numbing and burning, which perpetuates the performance stunting effect discussed earlier.
In revisiting the definition of lactate threshold, lactate threshold is about your bodies ability to flush out lactic acid, as fast as it's building up. Beta-Alanine's role in this process has nothing to do with flushing, but buffering. BA is a rate limiting pre-cursor to carnosine and increased BA concentration leads to increased carnosine concentration, and carnosine buffers the accumulating H+ in the contracting muscle. This buffering of H+ allows you to perform a greater number of forceful contractions before the H+ associated muscle numbing manifests. This H+ buffering via the carnosine, via the beta-alanine will raise your lactate threshold and allow further forceful contractions without inhibition apart from muscle failure.
BA = Buffering, but increased Lactate Threshold is inherently regulated by flushing and circulation. This is where the White Flood comes into play. White Flood contains the combination of Arginine and Ornithine. Arginine and Ornithine are precursors to NO, which leads to vasodilation. Vasodilation increases blood flow, circulation and thus, would inherently aid in the flushing out of the lactic acid from working muscles.
Simple Review:
- Beta-Alanine = Buffering of H+ in contracting muscle.
- Arginine and Ornithine = Vasodilation = increased blood circulation = increased flushing of lactic acid from contracting muscles.
Both of these effects are the primary catalysts for an increase in lactate threshold. The BA will buffer H+ and therefore, lead to an increase in the lactate threshold, where the Arginine and Ornithine will further augment the increasing of the lactate threshold process with the aided vasodilation, thus, flushing.
Therefore, to answer my own first question. Perhaps all I was experience was a “slight” buffering of H+ but a significant increase in the assisted flushing of the lactic acid. Answer to question number two, everything above. H+ Buffering AND an enhanced plumbing system. This is what we in bodybuilding call, A Synergy. Without getting into the other benefits, BA/Arginine & Ornithine are a double edged sword to increasing Lactate Threshold.
I’m sure this was done with intent, having BA along side increased Vasodilation make for a great 2fer and a truly significant synergy which behaves as the proverbial double edged sword in increasing lactate threshold.
That’s all.
P.S. I don’t claim to know everything, nor do I get defensive if you don’t agree with my theories or simply think I’m full of it. I’m not the smartest guy here by FAR, so I don’t have myself on an intellectual pedastool where people must accept and agree with my personal ruminations. That said, I didn’t pull this from me arse. Just putting two and two together and expressing it for ya’llz.
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thundergod
Well-known member
:goodpost: Excellent stuff there Sam. Very good info. And I concur with your conclusions. I also feel it is a combo of BA and Arginine (AAKG: the "alpha keto-glutarate" is best) that is changing my own workouts for the better here lately. I was able to gut out a few extra reps on most exercises this morning. Those extra reps with heavy ass weight are growth-inducing for sure. I'm almost at the 2-week mark on BA and AAKG and the effects are starting to snowball into some big results. Thomas and metroba say that BA just keeps getting better the longer you use it. I used 5 grams pre-workout this morning. I'll slowly add an extra gram until I'm up to 8. I think Thomas used 10 grams (5 pre and 5 intra) for his workout yesterday. So I'm placing another order for another 500 grams tomorrow. Thanks for a great post Volcom!! :clap2:
GreenSquats
Active member
:goodpost:
VolcomX311
Legend
Thanks Thunder, and luckily for you, you don't get any of the less desired effects of BA (IMO), such as paresthesia. Some people have it, some people don't.
I remember the last time I used bulk BA, around the day mark was when I started noticing the most dramatic improvements.
VolcomX311
Legend
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VolcomX311
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Something worth noting. I'm currently 211lbs, and naturally thick skinned, therefore, vascularity is not on my menu at the moment. I don't normally see vascularity until I'm at least in the 200lbs and below marker. However, I noticed some significant vein protrusion in my bi's today, when I was performing the reverse curls. The vasodilation from White Flood is definitely up to par.
Emerge
Well-known member
Dude, your shoulder day is insane. Lol. I'm finally starting my log on Monday. Any advice for dosing? I'm about 170 basically and I plan on working out at 630 P.M. I wake up at around 8 a.m.
Also, if you have the time, you mind checking out my final review for Cre-02? The link is in my sig if you are so inclined. (I'm taking you up on that buddy invite if you can't tell. Lol)
Also, if you have the time, you mind checking out my final review for Cre-02? The link is in my sig if you are so inclined. (I'm taking you up on that buddy invite if you can't tell. Lol)
VolcomX311
Legend
I believe taking the full 8 cap serving pre-workout is the optimal way to go. The only reason I'm splitting up my doses is for building up tolerance to the paresthesia, because I'm hyper-sensitive to it. If paresthesia does not bother you, or like some here, you don't get it at all, then definitely go the full 8 cap serving. I'm weaning my way upward to that, but its out of necessity, not strategy.
rolandajoint
Well-known member
i had a friend of mine try BA for the first time and he had to leave the gym because he said, and i quote, "roland, my skin feels like its crawling off of my bones...." and he was scratching his arms and face like tyrone from the chappelle show haha. is your experience similar to this?
snagency
Banned
Occasionally eh? Mr. Forearm basher himself says occasionally..
LOL on Forarmacide! :lol:
Keep bringing the sickness dood! :thumbsup:
RenegadeRows
Well-known member
LOL sounds about right, but i love that sensation
snagency
Banned
Geeez I hope not man. Isn't a pedastool one of dem stool's that pedophiles have to sit on when they get caught? lol, okay okay, I tried..
VolcomX311
Legend
Painfully so. The first time I took BA, I was using the Bulk Powder. I didn't know exactly how to dose it, so I used my creatine scoop, which I would learn later that it was way too much. I was at the gym in Grand "trying" to work chest with my workout partner when the paresthesia came on more and more intensely has our workout progressed. I kept scratching and scratching at myself until i looked like a Bengal Tiger, but with red claw lines across my legs, arms, chest, back, face. From then I always took my BA with protein & maltodextrin.
This is why I'm establishing some tolerance levels with my dosing split. The first day I took all 8 caps and it reminiscent of my Begal Tiger experience, but this dosing split is working really well.
I don't know if it's neuro sensor fatigue or what, but once I get the initial morning dose paresthesia out of the way, the rest of the doses create a dramatically less paresthetic effect.
I've already taken my 2 at 6:00am, 2 at 9:30am, and I know if I dose another 2, I won't even get paresthesia. My tolerance is building up nicely. I did a 2/2/4 dose yesterday and it was fine. I might go 2/6 next, until I can just pop all 8 pre.
Some people don't even get paresthesia, matter of fact, of the friends here, I'm the only one that does or at least experiences it in an undesired manner. Thunder is paresthesia free, so is Snag, Jas who frequents the MMA forum doesn't get it and Thomas actually likes it. More people like it then don't, that I've run into.
Paresthesia feels exactly like a Niacin Flush. Once I got my friend to take some Niacine just so I can watch him experience the flush as a practical joke and he actually ended up liking it. He said it made him feel like Ghost Rider, because he perceived the itchyness as super elevated body heat and I tried this same practical joke, only with my Bulk BA powder on a roommate and he didn't get any paresthesia. I seem to be the only guy who doesn't like it and on top of that, I happen to be extraordinarily sensitive to it.
VolcomX311
Legend
Thanks Snag. Is it me or do you look extraordinary tan in this avi? (no homo).
I originally placed the "(no homo)" before the question mark and then I realized, that would almost imply homo-osity, so I had to adjust.
VolcomX311
Legend
It seems most people do. The CAPS are working out great by the way :thumbsup:
VolcomX311
Legend
Something else I've noticed. If I am experiencing paresthesia, the only place it will either completely disappear or severely diminish, are the muscle groups being worked. Perhaps its a correlation with increased blood flow, I don't know, but if I'm working back that day, then my back will be the only place where the paresthesia isn't taking place. I'll feel it in my chest, arms and legs. Same if I'm working chest that day, the paresthesia will diminish in the chest and occur in my legs, arms and back.
VolcomX311
Legend
Thanks Shaddow :cheers:
RenegadeRows
Well-known member
Better yet, just pick up some WF! :lol:
VolcomX311
Legend
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VolcomX311
Legend
Ephedrine & White Flood
I don't know when, but one of these weekends, just for $hit$ & kicks, I want to do an Ephedrine, Aspirin, & White Flood pre. I'm not sure what to expect from it, because the true energy-synergy stems from the caffeine & ephedrine, but I'm going to try it once for fun. Other combinations I'd like to give a single run are
- 5 caps RPM/8 caps White Flood
- RPM/White Flood/Ephedrine(aspirin).
The latter two are just hypothetical ideas, but the EAWF is a definite one timer I plan on trying, maybe even as soon as this Saturday, depending on my schedule.
I don't know when, but one of these weekends, just for $hit$ & kicks, I want to do an Ephedrine, Aspirin, & White Flood pre. I'm not sure what to expect from it, because the true energy-synergy stems from the caffeine & ephedrine, but I'm going to try it once for fun. Other combinations I'd like to give a single run are
- 5 caps RPM/8 caps White Flood
- RPM/White Flood/Ephedrine(aspirin).
The latter two are just hypothetical ideas, but the EAWF is a definite one timer I plan on trying, maybe even as soon as this Saturday, depending on my schedule.
snagency
Banned
VolcomX311
Legend
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snagency
Banned
I can picture that I think. That'd be a good one for fasted 1st thing upon waking training.
VolcomX311
Legend
Definitely a morning workout. Ephedrine after 2pm = no sleep until 2am parami. That means, "for me" I use a lot of Spanglish in real life, but I forget you can't hear the culturally inclined rrrrrrr in parami, so it sounds like, pa-ra-me, which sounds more like a sushi of sorts. I don't know why I elaborated on that...
VolcomX311
Legend
Must be the WF LSD effect, I just took another dose at 12pm.
shaddow
Well-known member
I feel like 'no homo' in general is kinda homo in and of itself since this isn't exactly a gay dating forum, but I know a lot of people like throwing the whole 'no homo' thing around. I wasn't gonna say anything...
But this is what all you guys sound like to me with the 'No homo' thing:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30FM57Mg9Kw"]YouTube - No Homo #1 - The Shower[/ame]
:toofunny:
And here's An Old Person's Guide to 'No Homo':
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJnlPP7jm5s"]YouTube - An Old Person's Guide to "No Homo"[/ame]
Just doing my part to help keep AM informed. :thumbsup: :lol:
VolcomX311
Legend
The first video was funny. I think there are things that you can't retract from simply by saying no homo. Like if someone said, "I jerked off to the first video.... no homo" that wouldn't work in my book.
thundergod
Well-known member
I'm betting that you will like that EAWF combo. You know I'm taking even more stims and sh!t than that with my Thundergod Lightening Strike pre-workout drink plus extra BA and an ECAY stack with extra Yohimbine HCL on top as well. So I'm tweaked for my workouts now. I'm vibrating across the floor by the time my session starts. LOL :dance:
rolandajoint
Well-known member
ive never tried white flood, but i think rpm and white flood would be a tremendous combo. i dont really get the stim effect from rpm, just the aggression, focus, and strength, and then having the energy and focus from the white flood, i think it would make for the ultimate pre w/o boost.
oh i tried using the viking grip hammer strength move you talked about, where it was mostly working the traps. i did that supersetted with db shrugs, and it was intense. it was almost starting to hurt like a concentration curl does.
reps for recommending that!
oh i tried using the viking grip hammer strength move you talked about, where it was mostly working the traps. i did that supersetted with db shrugs, and it was intense. it was almost starting to hurt like a concentration curl does.
reps for recommending that!
rolandajoint
Well-known member
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to VolcomX311 again.
VolcomX311
Legend
Sweet! Yeah, it surprised me when I first realized how much that particular grip seemed to stimulate the traps.
VolcomX311
Legend
Geeeze, you're a worse stim junkie then I am! :fool2::fool2::fool2: nice.....
VolcomX311
Legend
Day 5; Rest days gone wild
I was suppose to rest today. I don't normally like going 5 days in a row without a rest. It's not because I can't handle it, but my biggest struggle IS allowing myself to rest, so sometimes I'll have to fight to stay out the gym and give my body some R&R. However, I lost that fight today and my rest day translated into an Incline Smash Session Invalid Link Removed
INCLINE SMASH SESSION
Incline Bench
225lbs x 10 reps
235lbs x 10 reps
245lbs x 8 reps
255lbs x 6 reps
Incline Hammer Press - Viking Grip Invalid Link Removed
320lbs x 10 reps
360lbs x 10 reps
380lbs x 8 reps
390lbs x 6 reps
Incline Hammer Press - Standard Grip
180lbs x 10 reps
200lbs x 9 reps
230lbs x 7 reps
270lbs x 6 reps
Machine Fly Press
150lbs x 10 reps
165lbs x 9 reps
180lbs x 8 reps
195lbs x 7 reps
210lbs x 6 reps
225lbs x 6 reps
Best rest day ever. I have to admit I probably should have rested. I don't believe my shoulders were up to par and fully recovered from my shoulder day, but I managed to handle an effective amount of business, nonetheless.
The paresthesia is becoming more and more tolerable, I believe my 2/2/4 split is becoming more and more comfortable. I'll probably move to a 2/ split by Friday.
Also, I had an insane pump, but admittedly, I did have a ton of carbs right before I worked out, so it wasn't all NO related pump. I'm still excited to see more and more results as I build my tolerance to be able to take a full serving pre-workout and also, for my Beta Alanine to saturate my system, which will provide further benefits.
Lastly, the White Flood has been putting me in really good moods throughout the day, but of course I dose throughout the day, so these nice, spurts of euphoria will no longer be once all my doses are relegated to acutely pre-workout.
I was suppose to rest today. I don't normally like going 5 days in a row without a rest. It's not because I can't handle it, but my biggest struggle IS allowing myself to rest, so sometimes I'll have to fight to stay out the gym and give my body some R&R. However, I lost that fight today and my rest day translated into an Incline Smash Session Invalid Link Removed
INCLINE SMASH SESSION
Incline Bench
225lbs x 10 reps
235lbs x 10 reps
245lbs x 8 reps
255lbs x 6 reps
Incline Hammer Press - Viking Grip Invalid Link Removed
320lbs x 10 reps
360lbs x 10 reps
380lbs x 8 reps
390lbs x 6 reps
Incline Hammer Press - Standard Grip
180lbs x 10 reps
200lbs x 9 reps
230lbs x 7 reps
270lbs x 6 reps
Machine Fly Press
150lbs x 10 reps
165lbs x 9 reps
180lbs x 8 reps
195lbs x 7 reps
210lbs x 6 reps
225lbs x 6 reps
Best rest day ever. I have to admit I probably should have rested. I don't believe my shoulders were up to par and fully recovered from my shoulder day, but I managed to handle an effective amount of business, nonetheless.
The paresthesia is becoming more and more tolerable, I believe my 2/2/4 split is becoming more and more comfortable. I'll probably move to a 2/ split by Friday.
Also, I had an insane pump, but admittedly, I did have a ton of carbs right before I worked out, so it wasn't all NO related pump. I'm still excited to see more and more results as I build my tolerance to be able to take a full serving pre-workout and also, for my Beta Alanine to saturate my system, which will provide further benefits.
Lastly, the White Flood has been putting me in really good moods throughout the day, but of course I dose throughout the day, so these nice, spurts of euphoria will no longer be once all my doses are relegated to acutely pre-workout.
RenegadeRows
Well-known member
Nice 'rest day' Volcom :icon_lol:
snagency
Banned
Haha, yeah I feel ya (uh, no homo) on the "no homo" thing. I never was hip to it till I came (no homo) on this site, and I noticed it runs rampant around here. Thanks for sharpening my head (NO HOMO!) with the history of the phrase. It's all good..
BTW - that first video was gay (no homo).. actually, it was very homo..
shaddow
Well-known member
You're incline hammer pressing considerably more weight with the Viking Grip vs. the standard grip. Is that because it feels physically easier to push more weight?
Hell of a rest day there, bro. :fool2: :rofl:
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