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Vitamin D3 : up test ?

its helps promote healthy tesosterone levels but as far as being a great muscle builder due to it? you won;t see those effects.
 
vitamin d does too much to list. that and I am too lazy. But seriously. You need to be taking it.
 
So far its been helping my joints pain while on an anti-e. Idk about test increase. If so it would be the cheapest test booster I have ever came across, by far.
 
Vit d improves athletic performance so much info on the web about it, any test increase i believe will be modest and will take some time, there is studies in pubmed with it, increases fast twitch muscle fibers to, there the ones that grow the biggest and strongest (weight lifting/bbuilding)
 
check out l-carnitine. i wanna say the study was recently, but i take it now with all my cycles. it's been shown to increase androgen receptor density.
 
Do you think that one living in the northern hemisfer in spring/summer time with 12 hours of sunlight should use this supplement?
 
amarula said:
Do you think that one living in the northern hemisfer in spring/summer time with 12 hours of sunlight should use this supplement?
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Tough to say. Some people produce optimal D or D3 with only 20 to 30 minutes of sun exposure and some don't produce optimals levels after hours of sun exposure. Get tested if have concerns. Nit sure I buy into all the hype unless some is deficient. I have seen all kinds of claims with regard to many different vitamins and minerals all over the net.

If your low end or low, say 40 or less, then be concerned about bone density if older. Dexa can ameliorate that concern. Also, spend a little more time with direct sun exposure to upper torso and upper legs and if still deficient, I would think supp with maybe 800 ius a day with direct exposure to sun and retest. I have heard some doctors say taking mega doses of D3 can be bad. D3 can be contraindicated or effect efficacy of medications. A doctor may want to check calcium levels, history if stones, BUN, creatinine, and etc. before advising large doses of D3. Perhaps take some K with D3 for arteries.

I am a professional surfer and even I have had a couple of low D3 readings, but these can be all over the board. A lot if factors may influence D3 levels on any given day. D3 may be good in moderation, but taking a whole bunch of it thinking it us cheap and going to be a panacea for all thinks anabolic and athletic is a bit silly. What about supping with good old vitamin C, tocotronels and tocopherols (e), and a small dose of D3 in the 400 to 800 iu per day range and get tested. The c, e and small doses of d3 will help support natural test levels.
 
No sure about T-Nation article, but this is a recent article that I think makes a lot of sense about D intake levels, how much is too much and whether exceeding 600 or 800 ius does anything positive. Note comments on lack of clinical trials and information used in a lot of so called studies. Just have seen this over and over throughout my life with different vitamins, minerals and supplements. People tout something as being the panacea and then latter retract or simply fade off into the sunset.

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Can anyone nail down optimal timing for a dose of 1000iu?

I get 1000iu from my muti v and have been supplementing 1000iu daily with my largest meal along with 500mg vit c, 300mg calcium, and 150mg magnesium.

I've read that d3 is best taken at bed time? Any ideas?
 
chedapalooza said:
Can anyone nail down optimal timing for a dose of 1000iu?

I get 1000iu from my muti v and have been supplementing 1000iu daily with my largest meal along with 500mg vit c, 300mg calcium, and 150mg magnesium.

I've read that d3 is best taken at bed time? Any ideas?
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Timing is irrelevant, just take it with a fatty meal if possible.
 
I'm not sure about all the hype of Vitamin D. No doctor I've had has ever suggested it or even tested for it, the same goes for TRT. It seems these two things are all the rage lately. Guess my doc isn't trendy enough!
 
T-Bone said:
I'm not sure about all the hype of Vitamin D. No doctor I've had has ever suggested it or even tested for it, the same goes for TRT. It seems these two things are all the rage lately. Guess my doc isn't trendy enough!
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I've definitely seen an increasing trend in doctors recommending Vitamin D (and CoQ10, since we were discussing that as well). TRT is a different story, but most people who get TRT generally need it and are aware of what it means longterm.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I've definitely seen an increasing trend in doctors recommending Vitamin D (and CoQ10, since we were discussing that as well). TRT is a different story, but most people who get TRT generally need it and are aware of what it means longterm.
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Yeah I just replied in the other thread about Vitamin D3. It has just been on my mind lately because my wife was tested and has been prescribed high dose vitamin d3.
 
T-Bone said:
Yeah I just replied in the other thread about Vitamin D3. It has just been on my mind lately because my wife was tested and has been prescribed high dose vitamin d3.
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Most americans are deficient. Too many computer gamers and couch potatoes. Vitamin d has been shown in so many ways to help the body.
 
fightbackhxc said:
Most americans are deficient. Too many computer gamers and couch potatoes. Vitamin d has been shown in so many ways to help the body.
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Admittedly, I don't Like the sun/heat.. Occasionally I will tan and spend a dY at the beach, but between work and preference... I dont spend a lot of tome in the sun... 2000 iu recently has done wonders for mood, and body comp
 
I took 5,000iu ED for one year. Just tested and levels were 47. Under 30 is considered deficient. Have upped to 10,000iu ED. From all I've read 60-90 is optimal. Posting because I was hesitant to take 5,000 in the beginning. Definitely get good effects in mood and all things hormonal.
 
Honestly, I don't see how people can really be that deficient unless they never go outside. Is this really a legitimate problem or one that is getting blown out of proportion?
 
If I can find the article I'll post the link. Recently have read and seen several opinions on increasing the dosage to 10000iu per day.
 
kisaj said:
Honestly, I don't see how people can really be that deficient unless they never go outside. Is this really a legitimate problem or one that is getting blown out of proportion?
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I work in a restaurant, I sleep mostly 3am-9 or noon on off days... I workout inside obviously, and im a student.. Could I do some things out doors like hw or study or take a walk.. Sure.. But personally I dont spend much time outside except in travel and what not.. I also cannot tolerate milk and only some yogurts.. So no d3 there really
 
I also supplement with 5000iu/day and live in Fl. It's so cheap and benefits are well documented, so really isn't a reason not to supplement it.
 
badidea said:
I took 5,000iu ED for one year. Just tested and levels were 47. Under 30 is considered deficient. Have upped to 10,000iu ED. From all I've read 60-90 is optimal. Posting because I was hesitant to take 5,000 in the beginning. Definitely get good effects in mood and all things hormonal.
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IMO, 47 is already about as high as I would want to go. Just because its a vitamin doesn't mean more is better. I would shoot for around 40 personally. Take a look at the most recent studies. Of course, nothing is quite definitive regarding vit D levels yet.
 
T-Bone said:
I'm not sure about all the hype of Vitamin D. No doctor I've had has ever suggested it or even tested for it, the same goes for TRT. It seems these two things are all the rage lately. Guess my doc isn't trendy enough!
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If your doctors are similar to the doctors, General Practitioners, in the UK then I'm afraid their knowledge of recent medical research will be limited or non-existent. Until they receive an instruction from high on up they will not alter their methods of diagnosis and recommendations of care plans.
 
I continue to say it, but I do think that knowledge and openness on TRT and things like vit D, etc are somewhat regional. You read on here about guys not begin aware of these topics and/or their docs not beging so. Around here in CO where people tend to be much more physically active and health a priority over other things, it is very well known and common. I feel fortunate that these subjects aren't a foreign concept to anyone I know.

That being said, going back to the vitamin D discussion- I've got a great doc and been to 3 endos, but none of them will or have discussed vit D deficiency. I've brought it up and the general thinking is that this is not really an issue, but they will test if requested.
 
Yeah I've been through a few doctors and none of them ever even suggested or even mentioned in passing anything about TRT or vitamin deficiency. I don't think it's a foreign concept to them, just something that isn't needed or frivolous to them.
 
All of the vitamin D3 stuff is still new....physicians are realizing that their range for normal VD3 levels are way lower than they should be. So some have made new ranges as normal and tons of people are deficient, even here in FL. I have seen it first hand when I worked in the medical field.

I like 2000-3000....give it a full 2 months to really kick in
 
alwaysfirst said:
Is it any danger with "too much" D3?
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Well, its a fat soluble vitamin, so theoretically yes. In ridiculously high doses fat soluble vitamins can have toxic effects, although the chronically consumed dose would need to be very high.

Even water soluble vitamins can have toxic effects at high enough levels, but its very uncommon for vitamin or mineral toxicity to happen.
 
Just picked myself up 100 pills D3 2000IUs per pill...ill be taking 2 a day empty stomach first thing in the a.m...along with whatever i decide to stack it with. Still figuring out how i wanna stack what i have.
 
Jay888999 said:
Just picked myself up 100 pills D3 2000IUs per pill...ill be taking 2 a day empty stomach first thing in the a.m...along with whatever i decide to stack it with. Still figuring out how i wanna stack what i have.
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Taking on an empty stomach is counter productive. Take with a meal that has a decent amount of fat in it.
 
JudoJosh said:
Taking on an empty stomach is counter productive. Take with a meal that has a decent amount of fat in it.
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Ok i guess its like any other supp,take with food...but i thouht i had read somewhere take first thing in the a.m

But ok,thanks,makes sense..I have mixed nuts daily as a snack or part of my meals,so i will take it then.
 
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