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Topical Dermacrine as a Base to All PH/DS Cycles

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gymrat827 said:
Dont you think taking 100mg of DHEA would pretty much be the same thing as running Dermacrine??
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Lol i try wallmart DHEA i went over 300mg and nothing happen... tried PP dermacrine i felt great the whole cycle i was like a porn star lolz i will buy again even from Ruthless supplements!!!
 
badbart said:
How suppressive is Dermacrine?
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Dermacrine is very mild. So mild in fact that the manufacturer says a PCT is not required for uses of a month or less. Anything over that length or when dosed over 5 pumps a day may need a light PCT
 
2die4 said:
Lol i try wallmart DHEA i went over 300mg and nothing happen... tried PP dermacrine i felt great the whole cycle i was like a porn star lolz i will buy again even from Ruthless supplements!!!
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Well said!!

Comparing DHEA to Dermacrine is like comparing caffeine to N2KTS.

Sure DHEA is in there, but there is a lot in there besides that. And that's what makes it work!
 
Well i started my cycle a few days early...applied the derma for the first time today its alot soupier than i had originally thought. But thats a good thing so it absorbs pretty quick. Im not too flexible i got as much as i could on my upper back and shoulders then put the left overs on my chest and a little on the family jewels for good measure. Well i got my fingers crossed so lets hope it works some magic!
 
reecew said:
Well i started my cycle a few days early...applied the derma for the first time today its alot soupier than i had originally thought. But thats a good thing so it absorbs pretty quick. Im not too flexible i got as much as i could on my upper back and shoulders then put the left overs on my chest and a little on the family jewels for good measure. Well i got my fingers crossed so lets hope it works some magic!
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Did you make sure it wasn't seperated? I read another log, where the guy had to put it in warm water for a bit and shake it to get it all mixed together.I should have my order by next week, and i had planned on doing this before using it.
 
beastybean said:
Did you make sure it wasn't seperated? I read another log, where the guy had to put it in warm water for a bit and shake it to get it all mixed together.I should have my order by next week, and i had planned on doing this before using it.
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Hmm it shouldn't be separated unless it sat for quite some time.
 
It is more of a lotion consistency not thicker like a cream like some other transdermals I have used. So far I don't know how I feel only on second day of it.
 
Someone try and say Dermacrine ten times fast lol
 
Just did, not as hard as I thought it would be. LOL
 
By the end of me trying it my wife turned to me and said what our you doing... Shouldnt have screemed it out loud.
 
derma crine derma crine derma crine.... just say it like that instead of dermacrine dermacrine...
you can do it!:dump:
 
muscl3s said:
derma crine derma crine derma crine.... just say it like that instead of dermacrine dermacrine...
you can do it!:dump:
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I wound up saying
krungdermakrungderma
 
I been using the Transdermal dermacrine for over 5 years now. I run cycles of it almost all the time and some times just stay on it for months at a time. Simple for the feeling of well being alone. HOwever one of the main reasons I started using the transdermal dermacrine ears ago was because I know it works.

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I took this test 2 weeks before and 2 weeks after using the transdermal dermacrine
and as you can see it lowers estrogen, doubles test levels and triples DHE levels this was only in 2 weeks time. So just think what it does in 4 weeks time, or 6 weeks time. I am sure it peaks out around 4-6 weeks but the product clearly works.

You can get the ruthlesssupplements only transdemral brand of dermacrine here at nutraplanet Invalid Link Removed

Stack the dermacrine with Ruthless supplements phytoserm-347 for the perfect natural enhancement stack Invalid Link Removed sure to drive test up... I feel this stack or even just dermacrine alone is also a great pre pct product/product combo. Or even used as a bridge between two cycles often used as a bridge between two oral cycles.

As a bridge between two oral cycles Transdermal dermacrine is plenty strong enough to keep you from losing any gains at all and even gaining some as well between the two oral cycles. It will give your liver and lipids the short month brake needed and then you can jump back on another cycle again. Then fallow them both up with a good pct.

One cycle I have seen that people seem to love is a str8 bulk faze cycle followed by a clear lean bulk faze cycle. Something along the lines of this.

weeks
1-4 Dieselbolan 2.0 1 cap 3 times a day (Invalid Link Removed)
1-4 forged liver support (Invalid Link Removed)

4-8 Transdermal dermacrine 5 pumps every am.( Invalid Link Removed) you can also add bridge from NTBM.com or even phytoserm-347 too. I think TCF from pp would be a good add here too.

8-12 Beastrol 1 cap 3 times a day option 1
helladrol 75mg ed spread out and katanadrol 250mg ed spread out option 2
or even just 100-125mg helladrol ed
8-12 forged liver support or N2guard (Invalid Link Removed)

12-16 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm
12-16 unleashed and post cycle combo 1 cap 3 times a day of each.
25mg ed clomid or 10mg ed nolva is an optional add in too.


But that is about the basics of the way I have seen people using it as a bridge. Then again so many people love to use it during the cycle one could just use dermacrine throughout the entire cycle and it will still work fine as the birdge between. Maybe add bridge or tfc to it as well.
 
gymrat827 said:
I dont think it works as well like HCGenerate does. Ive taken both on cycle.
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Well as for keeping the sex drive no I dont think dermacrine works better for this. Hcgenerate is a super sex drive upper lol, and also prevents shut down but I have found a few cycles work better using the "transdermal dermacrine" rather then hcgenerate. Beastdrol aka superdrol is one of them Because dermacrine seems to fend off Lethargy a lot better. . No reason not to run both though. :afro:
 
Ginandtonic said:
so is the LV dermacrine version junk in comparison to the transdermal?
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IDK if its junk just not as potent. I used the LV one (8ml ED)and didnt get the best effects, it prevented shutdown and that was it.

Everyone has jumped on me for the HCGenerate comment, I have to try the Topical Derm. Sh!tty thing is im on day 28 of PCT so its going to be a while. Ill stock up with a few bottles after this thread tho. Sounds like its worth every penny it costs. :friday:
 
I'll be stacking some Dermacrine + Bridge + Phytoserms 347 + DAA here pretty soon. Should be a good run before my next bulk cycle in March :D
 
gymrat827 said:
IDK if its junk just not as potent. I used the LV one (8ml ED)and didnt get the best effects, it prevented shutdown and that was it.

Everyone has jumped on me for the HCGenerate comment, I have to try the Topical Derm. Sh!tty thing is im on day 28 of PCT so its going to be a while. Ill stock up with a few bottles after this thread tho. Sounds like its worth every penny it costs. :friday:
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I dont think anyone was jumping on you for the hcgenerate comment bro. Hcgenerate is a amazing product and you can bet your as$ its great for on cycle and for pct. It will deff keep your sex drive up and prevent shut down on cycle ( better) then dermacrine IMO. But at the same time transdermal dermacrine is another great On cycle product and works in different ways
 
Dermacrine goes very well with SD:D

I've been happier and hornier than a 3 peckered billygoat!!
 
needtogetmuscle said:
In comparison yes IMO :bling:
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Considering I noticed a change in the transdermal dermacrine on about day 2, I would say 100% yes. LV you don't get the conversion rate or conversion to target hormones that you can get through the transdermal.
 
I cant find topical derma anywhere. Anyone know when it will be back in stock? Im thinking I might just have to order the lv version.
 
We are now in the process of making our ALL NEW RUTHLESS.INC DERMACRINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We will be changing Dermacrin to the new forma-stanzol stile trans dermal delivery system. Anyone who is a huge fan of transdermals and has used the forma-stanzol knows that this Transdermal system is by far the most advanced Transdermal on the market. Very well known peeps who know there trandermals like thebigt and others will tell you this Transdermal is hands down the best...

So what does this new change mean???????????

1. We will no longer be calling the product Dermacrine. Its a all new product.
2. The new product will come with a full month and maybe even 2 months worth of product in a bottle. Not this 25 days worth bull Sh*t. People want a full months worth of more. And we Aim to give it to them.
3. And we am to give it to them at a much cheaper price!!!!
4. THe new Transdermal will be just like the forma-stanzol.. IE you will not have to lather up half your entire body and sit around and wait 20-30 mins for it to dry.
A full dose will go on easy and dry within seconds!!!! and a full dose will not be 2 gallons of slop that smells like a big troth lmao.. It will smell good, Dry in seconds. You will also
not ever ever get a rash from it like a lot of people do from the version the way it is now.


We will have a new formula, New look, all better , all cheaper, and all in less then 30 days from now this will be ready to roll!!!!!!!!!!! We always Go the extra mile to make things better. We make Lemonade lemons all the time and people love us for it. Thanks guys
 
nice! i can't wait to wipe your stuff on my body... wait... yeah
 
I agree the transdermal carrier for Formastanzol is CRAZY effective, smells good and dries fast. I can't wait for our new product to come out.
 
needtogetmuscle said:
We are now in the process of making our ALL NEW RUTHLESS.INC DERMACRINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We will be changing Dermacrin to the new forma-stanzol stile trans dermal delivery system. Anyone who is a huge fan of transdermals and has used the forma-stanzol knows that this Transdermal system is by far the most advanced Transdermal on the market. Very well known peeps who know there trandermals like thebigt and others will tell you this Transdermal is hands down the best...

So what does this new change mean???????????

1. We will no longer be calling the product Dermacrine. Its a all new product.
2. The new product will come with a full month and maybe even 2 months worth of product in a bottle. Not this 25 days worth bull Sh*t. People want a full months worth of more. And we Aim to give it to them.
3. And we am to give it to them at a much cheaper price!!!!
4. THe new Transdermal will be just like the forma-stanzol.. IE you will not have to lather up half your entire body and sit around and wait 20-30 mins for it to dry.
A full dose will go on easy and dry within seconds!!!! and a full dose will not be 2 gallons of slop that smells like a big troth lmao.. It will smell good, Dry in seconds. You will also
not ever ever get a rash from it like a lot of people do from the version the way it is now.


We will have a new formula, New look, all better , all cheaper, and all in less then 30 days from now this will be ready to roll!!!!!!!!!!! We always Go the extra mile to make things better. We make Lemonade lemons all the time and people love us for it. Thanks guys
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I look forward to this, not that I really have any complaints about the current one you are using that PP makes for RLS (besides that BS they pulled on you guys), I am sure this will be an improvement. The better drying transdermal will be nice though, hanging out in a towel or with no shirt for 5-10 after it is applied post shower is a little annoying to say the least; pretty much makes AM applications before work not possible.
 
needtogetmuscle said:
We are now in the process of making our ALL NEW RUTHLESS.INC DERMACRINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We will be changing Dermacrin to the new forma-stanzol stile trans dermal delivery system. Anyone who is a huge fan of transdermals and has used the forma-stanzol knows that this Transdermal system is by far the most advanced Transdermal on the market. Very well known peeps who know there trandermals like thebigt and others will tell you this Transdermal is hands down the best...

So what does this new change mean???????????

1. We will no longer be calling the product Dermacrine. Its a all new product.
2. The new product will come with a full month and maybe even 2 months worth of product in a bottle. Not this 25 days worth bull Sh*t. People want a full months worth of more. And we Aim to give it to them.
3. And we am to give it to them at a much cheaper price!!!!
4. THe new Transdermal will be just like the forma-stanzol.. IE you will not have to lather up half your entire body and sit around and wait 20-30 mins for it to dry.
A full dose will go on easy and dry within seconds!!!! and a full dose will not be 2 gallons of slop that smells like a big troth lmao.. It will smell good, Dry in seconds. You will also
not ever ever get a rash from it like a lot of people do from the version the way it is now.


We will have a new formula, New look, all better , all cheaper, and all in less then 30 days from now this will be ready to roll!!!!!!!!!!! We always Go the extra mile to make things better. We make Lemonade lemons all the time and people love us for it. Thanks guys
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Hell yes... This is friggin great!!!! Send me 10 bottles Nate, LOL!
 
needtogetmuscle said:
We are now in the process of making our ALL NEW RUTHLESS.INC DERMACRINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We will be changing Dermacrin to the new forma-stanzol stile trans dermal delivery system. Anyone who is a huge fan of transdermals and has used the forma-stanzol knows that this Transdermal system is by far the most advanced Transdermal on the market. Very well known peeps who know there trandermals like thebigt and others will tell you this Transdermal is hands down the best...

So what does this new change mean???????????

1. We will no longer be calling the product Dermacrine. Its a all new product.
2. The new product will come with a full month and maybe even 2 months worth of product in a bottle. Not this 25 days worth bull Sh*t. People want a full months worth of more. And we Aim to give it to them.
3. And we am to give it to them at a much cheaper price!!!!
4. THe new Transdermal will be just like the forma-stanzol.. IE you will not have to lather up half your entire body and sit around and wait 20-30 mins for it to dry.
A full dose will go on easy and dry within seconds!!!! and a full dose will not be 2 gallons of slop that smells like a big troth lmao.. It will smell good, Dry in seconds. You will also
not ever ever get a rash from it like a lot of people do from the version the way it is now.


We will have a new formula, New look, all better , all cheaper, and all in less then 30 days from now this will be ready to roll!!!!!!!!!!! We always Go the extra mile to make things better. We make Lemonade lemons all the time and people love us for it. Thanks guys
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This is GREAT NEWS!! Nate is basically taking everything that could be better with Dermacrine and making it better!! WOW!! now we can finally get the amount we need out of 1 bottle and not have to wait forever for the stuff to dry!!

I can't wait to get some of this..:D
 
WOW WTF! Im excited now haha. Like everyone said as if dermacrine wasnt good as it was now it will be way better. Kind of sucks it coming out after we all started our cycles! Im on day 6 of the transdermal version and call it placebo or what you will but i cant stay off the wife or out of the bathroom if you catch my drift lol. I can tell you the LV didnt kick in this fast or hard but thats just my opinion and experience. Even if the new stuff carries roughly the same price tag and last 30+ applications it will be a win! I already see it now Nate's going to hook us all up with a killer sale on it when its released RIGHT???? lol
 
reecew said:
WOW Even if the new stuff carries roughly the same price tag and last 30+ applications it will be a win! I already see it now Nate's going to hook us all up with a killer sale on it when its released RIGHT???? lol
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Thats always a possibility ;)

We all know how Nate and NTBM rolls...:)
 
Hell I could probably foresee a few people getting chosen to log it.. LOL

Dont shoot me Nate I'm just following your patterns lol
 
This is awesome.

Anyone who has tried MrSupps Forma-stanzol LOVES the transdermal delivery. Bigt loves it and ryansm I remember really liked the transdermal delivery off the top of my head. I've seen some other great reviews for it from trusted members and reps of other companies. So this should be an amazing product.

Put some more DHEA in there per serving please Nate :D
 
chocolatemilk said:
This is awesome.

Anyone who has tried MrSupps Forma-stanzol LOVES the transdermal delivery. Bigt loves it and ryansm I remember really liked the transdermal delivery off the top of my head. I've seen some other great reviews for it from trusted members and reps of other companies. So this should be an amazing product.

Put some more DHEA in there per serving please Nate :D
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Now there's an idea^! :bling:


Yea I wouldnt doubt logging opportunities for people just based on past history :mischievous:.
 
needtogetmuscle said:
We are now in the process of making our ALL NEW RUTHLESS.INC DERMACRINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We will be changing Dermacrin to the new forma-stanzol stile trans dermal delivery system. Anyone who is a huge fan of transdermals and has used the forma-stanzol knows that this Transdermal system is by far the most advanced Transdermal on the market. Very well known peeps who know there trandermals like thebigt and others will tell you this Transdermal is hands down the best...

So what does this new change mean???????????

1. We will no longer be calling the product Dermacrine. Its a all new product.
2. The new product will come with a full month and maybe even 2 months worth of product in a bottle. Not this 25 days worth bull Sh*t. People want a full months worth of more. And we Aim to give it to them.
3. And we am to give it to them at a much cheaper price!!!!
4. THe new Transdermal will be just like the forma-stanzol.. IE you will not have to lather up half your entire body and sit around and wait 20-30 mins for it to dry.
A full dose will go on easy and dry within seconds!!!! and a full dose will not be 2 gallons of slop that smells like a big troth lmao.. It will smell good, Dry in seconds. You will also
not ever ever get a rash from it like a lot of people do from the version the way it is now.


We will have a new formula, New look, all better , all cheaper, and all in less then 30 days from now this will be ready to roll!!!!!!!!!!! We always Go the extra mile to make things better. We make Lemonade lemons all the time and people love us for it. Thanks guys
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BUMP!!!!

I'm effin excited for this :aargh:
 
needtogetmuscle said:
We are now in the process of making our ALL NEW RUTHLESS.INC DERMACRINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We will be changing Dermacrin to the new forma-stanzol stile trans dermal delivery system. Anyone who is a huge fan of transdermals and has used the forma-stanzol knows that this Transdermal system is by far the most advanced Transdermal on the market. Very well known peeps who know there trandermals like thebigt and others will tell you this Transdermal is hands down the best...

So what does this new change mean???????????

1. We will no longer be calling the product Dermacrine. Its a all new product.
2. The new product will come with a full month and maybe even 2 months worth of product in a bottle. Not this 25 days worth bull Sh*t. People want a full months worth of more. And we Aim to give it to them.
3. And we am to give it to them at a much cheaper price!!!!
4. THe new Transdermal will be just like the forma-stanzol.. IE you will not have to lather up half your entire body and sit around and wait 20-30 mins for it to dry.
A full dose will go on easy and dry within seconds!!!! and a full dose will not be 2 gallons of slop that smells like a big troth lmao.. It will smell good, Dry in seconds. You will also
not ever ever get a rash from it like a lot of people do from the version the way it is now.


We will have a new formula, New look, all better , all cheaper, and all in less then 30 days from now this will be ready to roll!!!!!!!!!!! We always Go the extra mile to make things better. We make Lemonade lemons all the time and people love us for it. Thanks guys
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For the record -

RLS can go ahead and try to make their own homebrew version, but it wont have anything to do with Dermacrine, nor will it even be close to the same Primordial Performance transdermal technology. Dermacrine has been perfected for over 4 years, and you are trying to make it seem like your new product is making an improvement with a start-from-scratch kitchen sink attempt.

Nathan -- If you were able to maintain an honest relationship without continual two-face back stabbing and lying we wouldn't have dropped you guys. This is really sad. Hopefully the smarter consumers can see past the multi level falsity here.

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
For the record -

RLS can go ahead and try to make their own homebrew version, but it wont have anything to do with Dermacrine, nor will it even be close to the same Primordial Performance transdermal technology. Dermacrine has been perfected for over 4 years, and you are trying to make it seem like your new product is making an improvement with a start-from-scratch kitchen sink attempt.

Nathan -- If you were able to maintain an honest relationship without continual two-face back stabbing and lying we wouldn't have dropped you guys. This is really sad. Hopefully the smarter consumers can see past the multi level falsity here.

-Eric
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Yet you show your professionalism by bringing what should be between RLS and PP to a public forum... None of us know what happened (nor really care to be honest, we just want to buy the products we like and be able to talk about them... ahem, that is what AM is for, right?) and seeing a back and forth between two companies will do nothing for either company. Keep it to yourselves please.

You may not agree with each others business decisions and/or ways that new products are marketed, but frankly no one needs to read the back and forth banter either. The only real question is why did PP stop making Dermacrine transdermal in the first place if it is, as you said above, "has been perfected for over 4 years"? All I and many consumers see is a product that was dropped, revived in popularity and then the company who made it under license for another wanted to get back in on the action (and more importantly, the profits). Because I respect PP and RLS that is all I will say but trust me, I am biting my tongue pretty hard.
 
well said, oufinny
the last thing we want to see is a company bashing another company on this forum... and i hope this thread doesn't turn into a war between the two... just put out great affordable supps and keep your reps in check, that's all i ask as a reader and consumer
 
"you must spread some reputation around before giving it to Oufinny again"
 
Primordial Perf said:
For the record -

RLS can go ahead and try to make their own homebrew version, but it wont have anything to do with Dermacrine, nor will it even be close to the same Primordial Performance transdermal technology. Dermacrine has been perfected for over 4 years, and you are trying to make it seem like your new product is making an improvement with a start-from-scratch kitchen sink attempt.

Nathan -- If you were able to maintain an honest relationship without continual two-face back stabbing and lying we wouldn't have dropped you guys. This is really sad. Hopefully the smarter consumers can see past the multi level falsity here.

-Eric
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:whiner:
 
Nice, This is like awesome news to me. I have been wanting to try dermacrine but couldnt as I dont have the time to sit around and wait for it to dry. I hope this new stuff is as good, well better than what you guys say dermacrine is/was.

On a side not its a sad day that my two fav supplement companies are feuding. Cant you all just get along.
 
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