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Thanks!i am very happy with TA, even if i'm waiting the good stuff :)
Have you tried going off few days then retry with 1-2 caps a day? it's a shame you can't use it now...
Yes I tried to take 2 weeks break and run just 200mg but it was same :(
Very very sad because i felt like SEX machine on it. Sick energy, random erections, was horny like hell +++
 

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Yes I tried to take 2 weeks break and run just 200mg but it was same :(
Very very sad because i felt like SEX machine on it. Sick energy, random erections, was horny like hell +++
Yes, powerful stuff!! strange to see this on you, i feel sorry for you :(
 
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What weRe your negative sides again Danes?
 
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Yes I tried to take 2 weeks break and run just 200mg but it was same :(
Very very sad because i felt like SEX machine on it. Sick energy, random erections, was horny like hell +++
So you just got anxiety?
 
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I believe its coincidence :)
Maybe I've even mistaken the hayfever side effects with my head cold!

I've definitely got a cold
I caved and gave one a go this morning (100mg I got close to no side effects)
 

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It was at 200mg. I felt no stronger sides at 600 compared to 200mg. But libido was insane with higher dose
How this impacted your mood (the higher doses)?Because mine goes definitely up with higher doses. Maybe at moments i fell a little super-energized, don't know how to explain. Not like a coffee buzz, but the opposite, like a calm but strong effect..hell don't know ahah :D
 

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Maybe I've even mistaken the hayfever side effects with my head cold!

I've definitely got a cold
I caved and gave one a go this morning (100mg I got close to no side effects)
I get a hot head...like feeling very hot in the back head :261:
 
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Very interested in trying LJ100! I've searched through this thread but can't find an answer. Can it be stacked with Strentgth unleashed and epic unleashed, which I'm currently 4 weeks into. Libido isn't what it used to be!
 

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I have been on that stack for the last month and have 3 more months of each.
 
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Very interested in trying LJ100! I've searched through this thread but can't find an answer. Can it be stacked with Strentgth unleashed and epic unleashed, which I'm currently 4 weeks into. Libido isn't what it used to be!
Absolutely.

I'm on those now plus Tr1umph.

The extra mood + libido is great, and the increase in test + reduction in cortisol helps too.

I've only gone up to 2 caps LJ per day so far. I might go up to 3/day but right now I'm getting great benefits at 2.
 
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Holy moly I love LJ100

The confidence and mood boost is second to none. I am more arrogant and cocky towards girls and the focus I have at work is great

Libido is high and that's only on one (definitely higher at two)

I am hoping I mistaken the sides as a current cold I caught
 

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Holy moly I love LJ100

The confidence and mood boost is second to none. I am more arrogant and cocky towards girls and the focus I have at work is great

Libido is high and that's only on one (definitely higher at two)

I am hoping I mistaken the sides as a current cold I caught
Yes those are really the benefits i can feel!
 

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How many lj100 u taking a day? What u notice from the stack?
 

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4 lj100 mood, energy, confidence and libido. As stated b4 I was on 5 mg cialis Ed and weened off with lj100. Side note with the stack I notice awesome vascularity, recovery and and bad shoulder feels way better since starting strength unleashed. These have all become staples as long as I can afford which OL has made possible with all the e****lent insider deals. Oh and don't let me forget to mention nutriverse.
 

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4 lj100 mood, energy, confidence and libido. As stated b4 I was on 5 mg cialis Ed and weened off with lj100. Side note with the stack I notice awesome vascularity, recovery and and bad shoulder feels way better since starting strength unleashed. These have all become staples as long as I can afford which OL has made possible with all the e****lent insider deals. Oh and don't let me forget to mention nutriverse.
My friends too noticed more vasculatiry even in non training days. That's a lot, i've never had vascularity like this, maybe only on triazole + activate xtreme + cistanche + 75 % icariin last year.
 

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4 spread out evenly, when I dosed two at the same time I got a little anxious.
 
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My friends too noticed more vasculatiry even in non training days. That's a lot, i've never had vascularity like this, maybe only on triazole + activate xtreme + cistanche + 75 % icariin last year.
The most logical explanation would be due to increased production of adenosine triphosphate (ATP) which is caused by TA
 
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Now i'm even more interested in knowing what compound in TA can cause this.
Normaly TA would decrease Anxiety but we do respond differently to plants/herbs.
Usualy TA should decrease tension/tense feeling and there is a human study about it but last run of TA gave me uncomfortable Tension/Tense feeling
 

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Normaly TA would decrease Anxiety but we do respond differently to plants/herbs.
Usualy TA should decrease tension/tense feeling and there is a human study about it but last run of TA gave me uncomfortable Tension/Tense feeling
I was reading that while it decrease cortisol, it can increase adrenaline a little. Don't know if it's true, and if which compound can cause that.
Now have to go to bed. Bye Danes :)
 
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I was reading that while it decrease cortisol, it can increase adrenaline a little. Don't know if it's true, and if which compound can cause that.
Now have to go to bed. Bye Danes :)
Bed time here too :) good Night buddy :)
 

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TA is the real deal. It disrupts my sleep a bit, so I tend to have to not use it, but I definitely felt alpha when I did two short runs of it.
 
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TA is the real deal. It disrupts my sleep a bit, so I tend to have to not use it, but I definitely felt alpha when I did two short runs of it.
Tried to take just one dose in the morning :) ?
 

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Tried to take just one dose in the morning :) ?
Maybe for counteract this effect we can try this, looks promising:

http://www.ergo-log.com/withaniasomnifera.html

a little part extracted: "In the infertile men with normal sperm, the herb increased testosterone production by fifteen percent. In the men with a low sperm count we're talking about an increase of forty percent, and in men with slow moving sperm an increase of 21 percent."

The study calculated an average of 40 % increase, but what is more important to us, is the cortisol reducing and sleep-aid effect:

http://www.anabolicmen.com/ashwagandha-testosterone/

"Since ashwagandha is an adaptogen, it should reduce stress, anxiety, and balance stress hormones (mainly cortisol). To my surprise, ashwagandha is actually well-proven to do all of those, while also improving subjective well-being. Take this well-done double-blind placebo study for example, where 300mg’s of KSM-66 ashwagandha given to human subjects for 60 days, was able to slash cortisol levels by 27%, while also greatly reducing anxiety and mental-stress in the test subjects. Another study with KSM-66 noted 14% reductions in cortisol, while in one study which used 5g of the root powder, up to 32% reductions in cortisol were noted in subject males who suffered from stress-related infertility. Multiple animal studies have come to same conclusions: ashwagandha supplementation consistently reduces cortisol levels and improves many stress-related symptoms."

I know it's a little off topic, so sorry, but this herb can help if the TA cause sleep problems. Definitely a good add-on to the Eurycoma i think! :)
 
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Took two this morning and I swear if anyone gets on my bad side I will destroy them! Haha

Nah just feeling super alpha and in a great clear focused head state. Can definitely feel a slight nervous energy and can understand anxiety at higher doses

My favourite supplement at the moment
 
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Maybe for counteract this effect we can try this, looks promising:

http://www.ergo-log.com/withaniasomnifera.html

a little part extracted: "In the infertile men with normal sperm, the herb increased testosterone production by fifteen percent. In the men with a low sperm count we're talking about an increase of forty percent, and in men with slow moving sperm an increase of 21 percent."

The study calculated an average of 40 % increase, but what is more important to us, is the cortisol reducing and sleep-aid effect:

http://www.anabolicmen.com/ashwagandha-testosterone/

"Since ashwagandha is an adaptogen, it should reduce stress, anxiety, and balance stress hormones (mainly cortisol). To my surprise, ashwagandha is actually well-proven to do all of those, while also improving subjective well-being. Take this well-done double-blind placebo study for example, where 300mg’s of KSM-66 ashwagandha given to human subjects for 60 days, was able to slash cortisol levels by 27%, while also greatly reducing anxiety and mental-stress in the test subjects. Another study with KSM-66 noted 14% reductions in cortisol, while in one study which used 5g of the root powder, up to 32% reductions in cortisol were noted in subject males who suffered from stress-related infertility. Multiple animal studies have come to same conclusions: ashwagandha supplementation consistently reduces cortisol levels and improves many stress-related symptoms."

I know it's a little off topic, so sorry, but this herb can help if the TA cause sleep problems. Definitely a good add-on to the Eurycoma i think! :)
I used KSM66 when I was on TA but but my sleep didnt improved to be honest.
Before i added TA and 3-5 first days on KSM66 I felt tired 24/7. Strong sedative effect which went away :)
 

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Lol, is that potent regarding sedative effect? in certain situations can help me a lot.
 

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So I tried 600mg yesterday. 300mg pre workout and 100mg with each of my 3 meals. I had a great day with lots of energy and muscles felt full and pumped all day. Also my mind was wandering all day about certain thoughts. I'll try this dosage for a few days and then bring it back down. I had no trouble with sleep last night, but I was pretty tired from a long day. I will see if it disrupts my sleep this weekend at this dosage though.

Danes - LJ100 at 600mg per day is pretty intense, but the mental and physical benefits are amazing. I am now really looking forward to trying some of those TA extracts with 2% or higher Eurycomanone content.
 

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Them 2% or higher extracts should be better than lj100?
 
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So I tried 600mg yesterday. 300mg pre workout and 100mg with each of my 3 meals. I had a great day with lots of energy and muscles felt full and pumped all day. Also my mind was wandering all day about certain thoughts. I'll try this dosage for a few days and then bring it back down. I had no trouble with sleep last night, but I was pretty tired from a long day. I will see if it disrupts my sleep this weekend at this dosage though.

Danes - LJ100 at 600mg per day is pretty intense, but the mental and physical benefits are amazing. I am now really looking forward to trying some of those TA extracts with 2% or higher Eurycomanone content.
I am very glad to hear that.
I gave LJ100 to an 53 years old Police officer here where I live.(right now he is on 600). He LOVE it! Amazing libido, energy, feeling great +++. I have said many times TA is the BEST single Testosterone boosting ingredients at the moment(ofcourse there are herbs ,plants which may work better but they are waiting to be found) :)
 
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for testosterone, i think yes. Eurycomanone and 13-alpha epoxy eurycomanone are the active ingredients for T production :)
Honestly, I do mean the same !
LJ100 works and it is NO doubt about that. Rather buying LJ100 (which is patented TA extract/quality 100:1) than buying TA sold around on different sites claiming to be pure 200:1 extract which is nothing than maybe cheap tribulus raw or horrible TA extract.
Personaly, I dont believe there is anything called EuryPeptides. It is just made up and there are 4 scientists who confirmed that. Its just a marketing trick to make HP Ingredient TA sounds more interessting and special.
Even Dr.Tambi was no sure in Eurypeptides. He and other scientists said they Believe Quassinoids such as eurycomanone,13α,21-dihydroeurycomanone and 13α(21)-epoxyeurycomanone are responsible for Testosterone increasing effect, Estrogen decreasing effect, SHBG decreasing effect ++++.
There is an extract called TAF 273 which is an extract enriched for 3 quassinoids like I mentioned. But I cant find it anywhere to buy.
In theory and technicaly a real 200:1 extract has 2x potency as LJ100 (which is an 100:1). It means you need to take 300mg of 200:1 to get same effect of 600mg of 100:1 (LJ100).

Like I said, rather spend money on a good 100:1 extract such as LJ100 than throwing money on garbage extracts claiming to be 200:1
 

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Honestly, I do mean the same !
LJ100 works and it is NO doubt about that. Rather buying LJ100 (which is patented TA extract/quality 100:1) than buying TA sold around on different sites claiming to be pure 200:1 extract which is nothing than maybe cheap tribulus raw or horrible TA extract.
Personaly, I dont believe there is anything called EuryPeptides. It is just made up and there are 4 scientists who confirmed that. Its just a marketing trick to make HP Ingredient TA sounds more interessting and special.
Even Dr.Tambi was no sure in Eurypeptides. He and other scientists said they Believe Quassinoids such as eurycomanone,13α,21-dihydroeurycomanone and 13α(21)-epoxyeurycomanone are responsible for Testosterone increasing effect, Estrogen decreasing effect, SHBG decreasing effect ++++.
There is an extract called TAF 273 which is an extract enriched for 3 quassinoids like I mentioned. But I cant find it anywhere to buy.
In theory and technicaly a real 200:1 extract has 2x potency as LJ100 (which is an 100:1). It means you need to take 300mg of 200:1 to get same effect of 600mg of 100:1 (LJ100).

Like I said, rather spend money on a good 100:1 extract such as LJ100 than throwing money on garbage extracts claiming to be 200:1
Very well said! don't even know of that TAF 273...must be amazing!
 

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Honestly, I do mean the same !
LJ100 works and it is NO doubt about that. Rather buying LJ100 (which is patented TA extract/quality 100:1) than buying TA sold around on different sites claiming to be pure 200:1 extract which is nothing than maybe cheap tribulus raw or horrible TA extract.
Personaly, I dont believe there is anything called EuryPeptides. It is just made up and there are 4 scientists who confirmed that. Its just a marketing trick to make HP Ingredient TA sounds more interessting and special.
Even Dr.Tambi was no sure in Eurypeptides. He and other scientists said they Believe Quassinoids such as eurycomanone,13α,21-dihydroeurycomanone and 13α(21)-epoxyeurycomanone are responsible for Testosterone increasing effect, Estrogen decreasing effect, SHBG decreasing effect ++++.
There is an extract called TAF 273 which is an extract enriched for 3 quassinoids like I mentioned. But I cant find it anywhere to buy.
In theory and technicaly a real 200:1 extract has 2x potency as LJ100 (which is an 100:1). It means you need to take 300mg of 200:1 to get same effect of 600mg of 100:1 (LJ100).

Like I said, rather spend money on a good 100:1 extract such as LJ100 than throwing money on garbage extracts claiming to be 200:1
I agree on this as well.
 
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Very well said! don't even know of that TAF 273...must be amazing!
TAF 273 standarization:
23.6% (+/-0.9%) eurycomanone
6.4% (+/-0.1%) 13α(21)-epoxyeurycomanone
0.8% (+/-0.1%) 13α,21-dihydroeurycomanone
4.8% (+/-0.2%) eurycomanol
 
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So I tried 600mg yesterday. 300mg pre workout and 100mg with each of my 3 meals. I had a great day with lots of energy and muscles felt full and pumped all day. Also my mind was wandering all day about certain thoughts. I'll try this dosage for a few days and then bring it back down. I had no trouble with sleep last night, but I was pretty tired from a long day. I will see if it disrupts my sleep this weekend at this dosage though.

Danes - LJ100 at 600mg per day is pretty intense, but the mental and physical benefits are amazing. I am now really looking forward to trying some of those TA extracts with 2% or higher Eurycomanone content.
I am not game enough to increase the dosage from 200mg haha

I've only had one day break
 

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I am not game enough to increase the dosage from 200mg haha

I've only had one day break
Do it! I was hesitant myself, but Danes was spot on about upping the dosage. LJ100 truly shines at 400mg and above. The only problem I have now is that all future runs will have to be at 400mg and above because I have now felt the difference. There is no going back.
 
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Do it! I was hesitant myself, but Danes was spot on about upping the dosage. LJ100 truly shines at 400mg and above. The only problem I have now is that all future runs will have to be at 400mg and above because I have now felt the difference. There is no going back.
Nice!
This is also same with many other ingredients too like PA as example. The "recommended" dose was ok but taking higher dose was MUCH better
 

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Alphamax XT apparently has 200:1 extract at 300mg (LJ100 600mg basically). So whoever has tested 600+ mg LJ100, anyone care to try this stuff out when its out? Haha.
 
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Alphamax XT apparently has 200:1 extract at 300mg (LJ100 600mg basically). So whoever has tested 600+ mg LJ100, anyone care to try this stuff out when its out? Haha.
Agreed :)i know how I reacted to 600mg LJ100. So I could try it
 

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