The Original Dermacrine, do you want to see it come back to NutraPlanet?

1-T Tren is a controlled substance homie. Illegal.

Yeah yeah yeah, I got dreams too! Either way 1-T was one of the products I never got to try which sucks.
 
1-T gave me some really solid gains. 14lbs and it reduced my bf% by quite a bit. The only downside to it is the lethargy, which can be pretty bad after a few weeks on.
 
1-T gave me some really solid gains. 14lbs and it reduced my bf% by quite a bit. The only downside to it is the lethargy, which can be pretty bad after a few weeks on.

1-T or 1-T Tren?
 
Oh my god that would be amazing. 1-T and the original 1-AD are two of my favorite compounds of ALL TIME! You guys seriously need to make this happen!

yes please.
 
The people always can vote, we pass anything you guys say onto Eric/Matt.

1-T with the new LV technology or just make it a transdermal in a bigger serving bottle.
 
PP seems to be open to listening to what us, the customers, really want. And I think that if enough pressure is put on we can get a 1-T product back. Hopefully that's just not wishful thinking though!
Hopefully we'll see a lot of request for that one as its one I didnt get to try.

Also heads up guys our Dermacrine is ready to buy at our homesite. Only 500 bottles as well.
 
Once again, Milas, I end up at:

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LOL, you've got to talk to some of the hard-core home brewers, those guys know WAAAAAY more than I can even fake on transdermals and chemical research!
 
You can get the bulk tren and add it to the PP carrier they sell I imagine, no clue what the dose would need to be and if the carrier would need something else added to it to make it like the original 1-T Tren.
 
I would love to see the 1-T and 1-T Tren come back....I've heard nothing but great things about both
If we had enough requests for it, like we did with Dermacrine then I could see a good possibility of it coming back, otherwise Andromass is a goin to be your best source. I will say I loved my one and only run with 1T back in the day...
 
Wasn't the active in 1-T banned and now a controlled substance?

I thought that is why it got pulled
 
Wasn't the active in 1-T banned and now a controlled substance?

I thought that is why it got pulled

That was the original 1-AD; 1-T was 1-DHEA IIRC which is still legal and used in stuff like 1-AD by AMS or various other 1-Andro products out now. The 1-DHEA has extra conversion steps to get to the target 1-Test versus OG 1-AD. 1-Test makes you lethargic as all getout is the real drawback, that's why I believe there was DHEA in the PP 1-T.
 
1AD and 1T are a bit different. For example, 1AD has good oral bioavailability, but 1T's is very poor, which is why transdermal was the preferred route. 1AD was basically the PH to 1T aka dihydroboldenone.
 
1AD and 1T are a bit different. For example, 1AD has good oral bioavailability, but 1T's is very poor, which is why transdermal was the preferred route. 1AD was basically the PH to 1T aka dihydroboldenone.

Some also speculated that the original 1AD had some intrinsic values that gave it a little extra umph in the gains department.
 
1AD and 1T are a bit different. For example, 1AD has good oral bioavailability, but 1T's is very poor, which is why transdermal was the preferred route. 1AD was basically the PH to 1T aka dihydroboldenone.

Right, I was going with the layman's explanation, but more thorough. 1T (1-DHEA) has been played with to improve oral bioavailability though, things like AndroMass, AlphaMass and even AMS' 1-AD UTT. The transdermals are good though, I like TD, and I would've liked to try it but wouldn't now with wife/son in the mix.

Some also speculated that the original 1AD had some intrinsic values that gave it a little extra umph in the gains department.

Already active instead of just a PH to 1-Test? I hadn't read that, but could very well be. But then wouldn't 1-T (1-DHEA) also have some extra oomph too since some of it will convert to androstenedione/diol?
 
Already active instead of just a PH to 1-Test? I hadn't read that, but could very well be. But then wouldn't 1-T (1-DHEA) also have some extra oomph too since some of it will convert to androstenedione/diol?
Yep.
There's been this speculation with 4AD as well.
I've read that too. It's something that can always be speculated about when dealing with a compound that produces hormonal metabolites bi-laterally. Heck the entire androseries line falls in this category as well.
 
Hmmmm...

For some reason I was under the impression that Primordials 1-T product was a transdermal pro-dienalone

Guess I was mistaken
 
I took 1-Andro for 7 weeks recently, when you up that dose the lethargy sucks but the results are worth it to an extent. AndroHard gave me energy then I would up it to twice the dose (1 gram of the OG) and it was a sleeper. I am curious about the transdermal but if the AndroSeries already has this covered, why get a lower bio-availability like a transdermal of the same thing?
 
Trenazone?

I got into the supp world far later than most of you, but based on what I've read, I'm coming up with that they're talking about pro-dien, whereas Trenazone is just dien - no conversion (loophole that the active wasn't banned, but the pre-curser was).
 
I got into the supp world far later than most of you, but based on what I've read, I'm coming up with that they're talking about pro-dien, whereas Trenazone is just dien - no conversion (loophole that the active wasn't banned, but the pre-curser was).

This. The clever company will always find a loophole in the legislation.
 
Gotcha. Well, no reason you can't do that...I'm sure ya'll at PP could find a way to make it better
Maybe, thing is it isn't exactly an area we are wanting to venture. The hammer is going to hit at some point and people are already being criminally charged for selling certain DS/PH.
 
Maybe, thing is it isn't exactly an area we are wanting to venture. The hammer is going to hit at some point and people are already being criminally charged for selling certain DS/PH.

smoking gun, please do tell the who and the what

if you dont mind.
 
smoking gun, please do tell the who and the what

if you dont mind.

Pretty sure it's systematic in terms of how big the labs were/how large the companies were. That's all I know atm, I forget exactly which companies were being hit first (Purus?? I may be totally off on this).
 
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