Sorry bud, hate to break it to you but the supp industry evolves everyday, people want high dosed stims....they got it and are still getting it, some pre's are even at 600mg Caffeine per scoop i.e. Hooligan, etc.. If you really think Hyde PP is the "limit" to how far the industry will go with Caffeine in energy drinks at 350mg you're wrong. Want to argue facts...then present some facts.
And even if I was off on the Starbucks...400mg is just Starbucks, plenty of other "real" coffee out there in specialty shops pushing way over 400mg per serving. People like caffeine, hate to break it to you and it truly doesn't matter the source...either coffee or energy drinks, caffeine is caffeine.
Not a well thought out response at all, dumb actually. So every supp company that has 400mg+ Caffeine in their formulas, when someone double scoops it, they are having seizures or can have a seizure? High dosed Caffeine based Pre's have been around for years and tons of people are prb. double scooping them. Cmon bud you've been around long enough to not make dumb claims like that.