Tell Us What You Would Like to See From SNS & CEL (2023 Edition)

[sns8778]

This is certainly very interesting, but unfortunately it has the very same drawback of Metformin IMO:
I don't want my insulin sensitizer to inhibit Amilase to any significant degree.
I don't want my carbs to get "wasted" even if the product also improves I.S. ; I just want them to be more effectively stored as glycogen.
Amla may benefit obese people and individuals totally incapable to adhere to a diet plan, tho.

I think it really depends on the persons goals and the type of product and results a person is looking for.

I've said a lot over the years that at some point, people started calling blood sugar control supplements GDA's and that certain ingredients are great for people that are wanting to help control their blood sugar &/or use them for anti-aging and longevity purposes but that when I think of a GDA, I think of a product whose purpose should be helping the body make your carbs work for you in order to help maximize results.

 

[xtyler]

I think it really depends on the persons goals and the type of product and results a person is looking for.

I've said a lot over the years that at some point, people started calling blood sugar control supplements GDA's and that certain ingredients are great for people that are wanting to help control their blood sugar &/or use them for anti-aging and longevity purposes but that when I think of a GDA, I think of a product whose purpose should be helping the body make your carbs work for you in order to help maximize results.

My words were from a bodybuilder's perspective indeed, it definitely can work (and fairly well too) for other application areas

 

[aaronuconn]

Cocoa flavanols in Cardiovascular Support XT?

https://www.fda.gov/media/165090/download

 

[sns8778]

Cocoa flavanols in Cardiovascular Support XT?

https://www.fda.gov/media/165090/download

No, there are no cocoa flavanols in Cardiovascular Support XT nor have there ever been any intention of there being.

The formula of Cardiovascular Support XT has been done for some time, and the finished product is actually here and we're just waiting on the proper release timing.

I think that the average person isn't going to understand the link that you posted on this and I don't want it to confuse them, what is your impression of that? (I have my own impression on it and have expressed it in the past; I'm asking you bc I don't want mine to influence yours haha)

 

[aaronuconn]

No, there are no cocoa flavanols in Cardiovascular Support XT nor have there ever been any intention of there being.

The formula of Cardiovascular Support XT has been done for some time, and the finished product is actually here and we're just waiting on the proper release timing.

I think that the average person isn't going to understand the link that you posted on this and I don't want it to confuse them, what is your impression of that? (I have my own impression on it and have expressed it in the past; I'm asking you bc I don't want mine to influence yours haha)

I thought that it allowed brands to promote and leverage specific verbiage around the health benefits of cocoa flavanols.

I’m sure Cardiovascular Support XT is loaded; just thought this was interesting as there aren’t many ingredients the FDA allows this for.

Please correct me if I misunderstand

 

[sns8778]

I thought that it allowed brands to promote and leverage specific verbiage around the health benefits of cocoa flavanols.

I’m sure Cardiovascular Support XT is loaded; just thought this was interesting as there aren’t many ingredients the FDA allows this for.

Please correct me if I misunderstand

Documents like this can be incredibly confusing to read - I would say that me and you know how to read them better than 99% of people and an example of how confusing it can be is that me and you have different opinions.

A lot of the wording in the document goes against them being able to make any claims and then on pages 18 and 19, it sums it up to say:

“Cocoa flavanols in high flavanol cocoa powder may reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease,
although FDA has concluded that there is very limited scientific evidence for this claim.”

“Cocoa flavanols in high flavanol cocoa powder may reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease.
FDA has concluded that there is very limited scientific evidence for this claim.”

“Very limited scientific evidence suggests that consuming cocoa flavanols in high flavanol cocoa
powder, which contains at least 4% of naturally conserved cocoa flavanols, may reduce the risk
of cardiovascular disease.”

To me, the FDA making them emphasize how limited the scientific evidence is of this claim could easily make it be viewed by the average consumer as it probably not being useful for it (even though it may be).

As to what you said about there not being many ingredients that the FDA allows this for, there aren't many companies that are willing to spend the money to try to get the FDA to allow claims like this because it can be a very expensive legal process, and the end result may wind up being either a no or being qualifying language that may make it sound not so great anyway.

I hope that makes sense.

 

[Juiceman]

Will Focus XT & Super Swole powder ever be back in stock? If so, do we have an ETA at this time?

Thanks in advance!

 

[sns8778]

Will Focus XT & Super Swole powder ever be back in stock? If so, do we have an ETA at this time?

Thanks in advance!

Yes, they will.

I don’t like giving ETA’s on things anymore, especially flavored powders bc there are too many variables.

Focus XT we are hoping to have some flavors coming back in by end of the month or beginning of March.

Super Swole powder hopefully by end of March but can’t make any promises on that one.

Here is a thread I set up specifically for out of stocks, back in stocks, and updates.

SNS/CEL - Stock Statuses & Back in Stock Thread - AnabolicMinds.com

I hope that everyone is doing well. The purpose of this thread is to create a master thread for out of stocks and back in stock ETA’s. As many of you know, ever since the Covid pandemic, the supplement industry, along with many other industries, have experienced a variety of supply chain...

anabolicminds.com

 

[slimsaw00]

I doubt it. We haven't really had hardly any requests to do one.

I'm a fan of the ingredient myself though and we use it in several products and likely will in several upcoming ones.

Bum deal….. I would have enjoyed a Teacrine/Dynamine capsule to add to caffeinated beverages.

 

[sns8778]

Bum deal….. I would have enjoyed a Teacrine/Dynamine capsule to add to caffeinated beverages.

I've been considering doing a caffeine free energizer for that purpose. It would have Dynamine and Teacrine both in it, it would just have a few extra things too.

 

[slimsaw00]

I've been considering doing a caffeine free energizer for that purpose. It would have Dynamine and Teacrine both in it, it would just have a few extra things too.

Cool!

 

[jh1]

I've been considering doing a caffeine free energizer for that purpose. It would have Dynamine and Teacrine both in it, it would just have a few extra things too.

I'd be in on this. Dynamine/Zynamite/Teacrine with some high quality Ginseng and a high salidroside Rhodiola would be a great energy combo. Especially for during those caffeine breaks

 

[sns8778]

I'd be in on this. Dynamine/Zynamite/Teacrine with some high quality Ginseng and a high salidroside Rhodiola would be a great energy combo. Especially for during those caffeine breaks

In thinking out a product like this, one thing I think is very important is keeping it to 1 to 2 capsules.

So far, my thoughts are N-Phenethylamine, TeaCrine, Dynamine, and maybe EnXtra.

I thought about adding regular Phenethylamine to it; it doesn't get much talk on here, but is a good seller for us and a lot of people really do seem to like it. Its effects tend to not last but for so long but it gives many a nice quick pickup.

Zynamite - I would need to hear more feedback from anyone that it worked for. I tried it and honestly, I even tell I take it, at all. I've even doubled and tripled the dose trying to see if I would get anything from it and I didn't. I may be an anomaly on that, but its a very expensive ingredient to add on a cost per serving basis, so I'd hate to increase the cost of a product based off of that if it doesn't work a lot better for others than it does for me.

Personally, I'd like to see Huperzine A in one like this. Curious as to others opinions.

Rhodiola - I would consider it, but hadn't been thinking along those lines, but I'm open to it.

 

[jh1]

In thinking out a product like this, one thing I think is very important is keeping it to 1 to 2 capsules.

So far, my thoughts are N-Phenethylamine, TeaCrine, Dynamine, and maybe EnXtra.

I thought about adding regular Phenethylamine to it; it doesn't get much talk on here, but is a good seller for us and a lot of people really do seem to like it. Its effects tend to not last but for so long but it gives many a nice quick pickup.

Zynamite - I would need to hear more feedback from anyone that it worked for. I tried it and honestly, I even tell I take it, at all. I've even doubled and tripled the dose trying to see if I would get anything from it and I didn't. I may be an anomaly on that, but its a very expensive ingredient to add on a cost per serving basis, so I'd hate to increase the cost of a product based off of that if it doesn't work a lot better for others than it does for me.

Personally, I'd like to see Huperzine A in one like this. Curious as to others opinions.

Rhodiola - I would consider it, but hadn't been thinking along those lines, but I'm open to it.

I'd certainly be willing to trade the Dynamine for N-PEA and huperzine A

 

[sns8778]

I'd certainly be willing to trade the Dynamine for N-PEA and huperzine A

Did you mean trade the Zynamite for that?

 

[jh1]

Did you mean trade the Zynamite for that?

Yes I did. Sorry. That's what I get for typing in a rush. My only personal experience with zynamite has been underwhelming

 

[sns8778]

Yes I did. Sorry. That's what I get for typing in a rush. My only personal experience with zynamite has been underwhelming

No worries, I completely understand. And yeah, that's about like mine with it too.

 

[sns8778]

I wanted to let everyone know that we just received Joint Support XT back in stock.

I set up a discussion thread for it and set up some discounted multi-packs, a coupon code, and a couple other special offers.

SNS Joint Support XT Thread:

SNS Joint Support XT - Fast Acting - Joint Health, Comfort, Mobility, & Flexibility - AnabolicMinds.com

Joint Support XT isn't new but has been out of stock for quite awhile, so I wanted to do a thread to let everyone know that its back in stock and also to introduce it to anyone that isn't familiar with it. Joint Health, Comfort, Mobility, & Flexibility 5 Clinically Researched Key Ingredients...

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SNS Joint Support XT:

SNS Joint Support XT - Fast Acting - Joint Health, Comfort, Mobility, & Flexibility - AnabolicMinds.com

Joint Support XT isn't new but has been out of stock for quite awhile, so I wanted to do a thread to let everyone know that its back in stock and also to introduce it to anyone that isn't familiar with it. Joint Health, Comfort, Mobility, & Flexibility 5 Clinically Researched Key Ingredients...

anabolicminds.com

 

[migsacura]

I would like to see a high quality garlic product with a high dosed and stabilized Allicin extract. So many health benefits from garlic especially from the Allicin component. These products do exist but I'm sure SNS can take it to the next level.

 

[sns8778]

I would like to see a high quality garlic product with a high dosed and stabilized Allicin extract. So many health benefits from garlic especially from the Allicin component. These products do exist but I'm sure SNS can take it to the next level.

Thank you for sharing. I would love to hear other people's input on this.

I honestly don't trust a lot of the products on the market that claim to be a super high allicin concentration; especially from brands that are only on Amazon and don't exist outside of it.

On the subject of Garlic and Allicin, its a little different from what you're talking about, but there will be Garlic in the soon to be released Cardiovascular Support XT formula + a lot more.

 

[dukes3577]

Sorry didn’t know where to post this, so I figured here was best. Getting ready for a cruise in March and wanted to add yohimbine to aid in a cut but was hesitant as it always had me feeling on edge as well as really elevated bp. I decided to try SNS this time. To my surprise I am getting ALL the benefits with no sides. I upped it to three cap’s today and BP still good 120/70. Thanks Steve @sns8778

 

[BigGame84]

A product that includes or is singular, PeptiStrong

PeptiStrong™ – Nuritas

 

[sns8778]

Sorry didn’t know where to post this, so I figured here was best. Getting ready for a cruise in March and wanted to add yohimbine to aid in a cut but was hesitant as it always had me feeling on edge as well as really elevated bp. I decided to try SNS this time. To my surprise I am getting ALL the benefits with no sides. I upped it to three cap’s today and BP still good 120/70. Thanks Steve @sns8778

Thank you for sharing; I'm glad to hear that you're getting the benefits and no sides.

I think that if more people would try ours, they would likely see the same thing - there's a huge difference between real HCI and raws that claim to be HCI but are actually the standardized herb powder.

 

[sns8778]

A product that includes or is singular, PeptiStrong

PeptiStrong™ – Nuritas

Very familiar with this ingredient

 

[N2ofusion]

In thinking out a product like this, one thing I think is very important is keeping it to 1 to 2 capsules.

So far, my thoughts are N-Phenethylamine, TeaCrine, Dynamine, and maybe EnXtra.

I thought about adding regular Phenethylamine to it; it doesn't get much talk on here, but is a good seller for us and a lot of people really do seem to like it. Its effects tend to not last but for so long but it gives many a nice quick pickup.

Zynamite - I would need to hear more feedback from anyone that it worked for. I tried it and honestly, I even tell I take it, at all. I've even doubled and tripled the dose trying to see if I would get anything from it and I didn't. I may be an anomaly on that, but its a very expensive ingredient to add on a cost per serving basis, so I'd hate to increase the cost of a product based off of that if it doesn't work a lot better for others than it does for me.

Personally, I'd like to see Huperzine A in one like this. Curious as to others opinions.

Rhodiola - I would consider it, but hadn't been thinking along those lines, but I'm open to it.

N-PEA and enXtra sounds great. I’d like to get to dose these a little higher than most combo products allow.

Steve, you and I talked about Zynamite before, but for those reading, it worked for me then started to be accompanied by awful headaches. Most Zynamite products don’t have great reviews.

I like teacrine and Dynamine here and there but I’ve really built a tolerance to them, and they’re supposed to be tolerance-resistant or something like that.

Any new stims you wanna throw in there?

 

[sns8778]

N-PEA and enXtra sounds great. I’d like to get to dose these a little higher than most combo products allow.

Steve, you and I talked about Zynamite before, but for those reading, it worked for me then started to be accompanied by awful headaches. Most Zynamite products don’t have great reviews.

I like teacrine and Dynamine here and there but I’ve really built a tolerance to them, and they’re supposed to be tolerance-resistant or something like that.

Any new stims you wanna throw in there?

We already do a single ingredient N-Phenethyl Dimethylamine (our Eria Jarensis capsules) and it contains 150 mg. per capsule and I love being able to adjust the dosage around and take it with different things. A lot of people overlook that we make that.

For the product I'm thinking on, I'm thinking of trying to do it in a one capsule/two capsule format where people can adjust the dose based on their individual needs.

I had heard that about the headaches with Zynamite too; and I agree, the feedback overall on it that looks to be legit real feedback doesn't seem too great.

I don't know that there are any stims that you can't develop a tolerance to; I think that its harder to with Dynamine and TeaCrine but that one can build a tolerance to any stim over time if taken enough. But I also think that sometimes, its not that we build a tolerance so much as that we get used to the way that makes us feel and that just becomes our new normal. I know that's happened to me with a few things, like I'll think they stopped working but really it wasn't that they stopped, I just got used to how they made me feel.

I'm not aware of any new stims that are compliant and have very good feedback on them. Did you have anything in particular in mind?

 

[Hyde]

We already do a single ingredient N-Phenethyl Dimethylamine (our Eria Jarensis capsules) and it contains 150 mg. per capsule and I love being able to adjust the dosage around and take it with different things. A lot of people overlook that we make that.

For the product I'm thinking on, I'm thinking of trying to do it in a one capsule/two capsule format where people can adjust the dose based on their individual needs.

I had heard that about the headaches with Zynamite too; and I agree, the feedback overall on it that looks to be legit real feedback doesn't seem too great.

I don't know that there are any stims that you can't develop a tolerance to; I think that its harder to with Dynamine and TeaCrine but that one can build a tolerance to any stim over time if taken enough. But I also think that sometimes, its not that we build a tolerance so much as that we get used to the way that makes us feel and that just becomes our new normal. I know that's happened to me with a few things, like I'll think they stopped working but really it wasn't that they stopped, I just got used to how they made me feel.

I'm not aware of any new stims that are compliant and have very good feedback on them. Did you have anything in particular in mind?

The SNS EJ is a great product! Once or twice a week I’ll stack it in, maybe with coffee in the morning or with 2-3 caps of Vasoforce Rush before training. Really improves mood and adds some extra drive.

 

[Cgio2128]

If it doesn’t exist already (please tell me if it does)
One single product that contains:
Forskolin
Yohimbine
Tongkat
Fidogia

 

[Cgio2128]

If it doesn’t exist already (please tell me if it does)
One single product that contains:
Forskolin
Yohimbine
Tongkat
Fidogia

And maybe add in Epi and PA

 

[sns8778]

If it doesn’t exist already (please tell me if it does)
One single product that contains:
Forskolin
Yohimbine
Tongkat
Fidogia

Thank you for the suggestion.

Unfortunately, I don't think a combination product with all of those in it together would sell well for a few reasons - Fadogia and Tongkat Ali being natural testosterone boosters and then Forskolin and Yohimbine are ingredients that are many times preferred to use as single ingredient products outside of formulas because some people don't tolerate them as well.

Another reason that its probably better to get them separately is that it allows you to adjust your dosage timing on the Yohimbine and Forskolin throughout the day how you need to.

M-Test contains Tongkat Ali and Fadogia:

M-Test - Competitive Edge Labs, LLC

Ultra-Potent Natural Testosterone Booster & Libido Support. Fadogia, Tongkat Ali, KSM-66, PrimaVie, Boron, & More. Multi-Faceted Testosterone Support.

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Muscle Addiction Test Fix also contains Tongkat Ali and Fadogia:

Test Fix - Muscle Addiction

Natural Testosterone Booster & Libido Enhancer. Fadogia, Tongkat Ali, KSM-66.Supports Lean Muscle, Strength, Fat Loss, Positive Mood, & More.

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Forskolin XT makes for ease of stacking and customizing the dosage to one's individual needs:

Forskolin XT | Serious Nutrition Solutions

SNS Forskolin XT contains clinically researched ForsLean® 95%. Don't settle for inferior generic Coleus forskohlii extracts.

seriousnutritionsolutions.com

Yohimbine 2.5 makes for ease of stacking and customizing the dosage to one's individual needs:

Yohimbine 2.5 - 100 caps | Serious Nutrition Solutions

SNS Yohimbine 2.5 provides 2.5 mg. per capsule of Yohimbine HCl, a popular ingredient that is commonly used to help burn fat, suppress appetite, and enhance libido.

seriousnutritionsolutions.com

 

[sns8778]

And maybe add in Epi and PA

Those are great ingredients and would stack great with many of our products such as M-Test, Test Fix, Optimize-T, Anabolic XT, Lean Edge, Thermo Scorch, Forskolin XT, and many more.

We already offer Phosphatidic Acid XT and Epi-Plex:

Phosphatidic Acid XT | Serious Nutrition Solutions

Natural Anabolic Muscle Builder. 1,500 Mg. Mediator Phosphatidic Acid Per Serving. Lean Muscle, Strength, Size, Recovery, & More. Plus Senactiv, ApiPure Apigenin, AstraGin, & Bioperine.

seriousnutritionsolutions.com

Epi-Plex - Competitive Edge Labs, LLC

300 mg. Epicatechin + 150 mg. VasoFlo+ per capsule. Natural Anabolic Muscle Builder. Lean Muscle, Strength, Endurance, Pumps, Fullness, & Much More.

competitiveedgelabs.com

When deciding what ingredients to mix together in formulas, 3 important considerations are:

• Dosage timing
  • For example, some of the ingredients you mentioned need to be taken at different times of the day.
• # of capsule the formula would be
  • Once a formula goes past 4 capsules, you lose some customers.
  • Once a formula goes past 6 capsules, you lose more customers.
  • You can only fit X amount of ingredients per capsule, so sometimes its better to do more than one products and let the people that want to stack them do so, but then it doesn't deter the people that don't.
• Finished product cost
  • I love going all out on formulas and very frequently have to start working backwards based on cost to be able to offer the best possible product at a price point that people can afford;
  • Sometimes that involves one product idea becoming two separate ideas - in that that way people that want to stack them can, but people that are only looking for one thing or the other can get the one that they want whereas they may be deterred by a higher price if there were additional things added.

Phosphatidic Acid XT is a very loaded formula and contains 1,500 mg. of Mediator PA + Senactiv + Apigenin + AstraGin & Bioperine. If we added Epicatechin to it, we would have to add additional capsules and it would be at a higher price point, and I also think that would detract from the optimal way to dose it.

Epi-Plex - I love this product and use it as a year round staple for me as it is the best thing I've ever used for muscular endurance and in addition to the workout and performance benefits, it is also good for immune and cardiovascular health. But, I feel for best results, it needs to be taken 1 capsule twice per day (300 mg. twice per day) and some people go up to 900 mg. per day - so this is why I like it better as a standalone to be able to stack with Phosphatidic Acid XT rather than included in the product.

I hope all of that makes sense.

 

[Stachio]

@sns8778 Have you considered doing a methylation type supplement?? I'm not sure if there is a demand for it. I use Thorne Methyl Guard.

 

[rodefeeh]

Thank you for sharing. I would love to hear other people's input on this.

I honestly don't trust a lot of the products on the market that claim to be a super high allicin concentration; especially from brands that are only on Amazon and don't exist outside of it.

On the subject of Garlic and Allicin, its a little different from what you're talking about, but there will be Garlic in the soon to be released Cardiovascular Support XT formula + a lot more.

I just try to eat a clove of garlic chopped up on my daily lunch salad

 

[sns8778]

I just try to eat a clove of garlic chopped up on my daily lunch salad

I couldn't do that haha.

It's great if you can, but the good thing about capsules is that it allows you to know exactly how much you're getting if the garlic is standardized and if the brand is honest and it meets label claims.

 

[sns8778]

@sns8778 Have you considered doing a methylation type supplement?? I'm not sure if there is a demand for it. I use Thorne Methyl Guard.

I thought about it at one time but its one that I've never been asked for, so I wasn't sure if it would sell or if there was enough interest to do.

I would love to hear anyone's feedback on it and if there's any interest.

 

[josun]

I thought about it at one time but its one that I've never been asked for, so I wasn't sure if it would sell or if there was enough interest to do.

I would love to hear anyone's feedback on it and if there's any interest.

I think it would sell. There is a good size subReddit that would buy

 

[sns8778]

I think it would sell. There is a good size subReddit that would buy

For methylation products?
Sorry, I'm reddit illiterate haha; but would love to learn more.

 

[WhatsaBench]

For methylation products?
Sorry, I'm reddit illiterate haha; but would love to learn more.

I am guessing he means the r/supplement subreddit as almost every question asked in there eventually leads to a discussion of methylation. (Exaggerating for effect but its a very common occurrence)

 

[sns8778]

I am guessing he means the r/supplement subreddit as almost every question asked in there eventually leads to a discussion of methylation. (Exaggerating for effect but its a very common occurrence)

I rarely ever check Reddit because I hate the format, hate mean spiritedness, and can't ever seem to find what I'm looking for on there. I need to get more familiar with it.

 

[baldwanus]

I rarely ever check Reddit because I hate the format, hate mean spiritedness, and can't ever seem to find what I'm looking for on there. I need to get more familiar with it.

Mreh... Reddit can come in handy if you're looking for info on something kind of niche, but in all reality, any large enough subreddit always turns into a giant bubble of douches. You're really not missing much haha

 

[SSJ4GOD]

@sns8778 i will say that people having the MTHFR gene is like a big wave right now. Will it die down? Idk. Perhaps it’s just people having more access to gene testing via online test kits. But methylation products can be helpful for a lot of people and they seem fairly popular especially on Amazon.

 

[SSJ4GOD]

The mother****** gene?

It is also called that yes lol

 

[CATdiesel76]

Humanofort? Never used it but have heard all kinds of claims. Haven’t read any studies on it but seems interesting

 

[sns8778]

Humanofort? Never used it but have heard all kinds of claims. Haven’t read any studies on it but seems interesting

I had looked into that at one time but its a really weird situation. The person that has the trademark on it will sell companies the raw materials but will not allow any companies that release new products with it to call the ingredient Humanofort or even acknowledge that it is Humanofort - so there's literally no use in licensing it from them as zero people know what it is by technical name. That creates a way too sketchy situation for me to want to be involved with.

 

[sns8778]

Mreh... Reddit can come in handy if you're looking for info on something kind of niche, but in all reality, any large enough subreddit always turns into a giant bubble of douches. You're really not missing much haha

Yeah, that is what I'd seen when I've checked there for things, supplement related or even Jeep related stuff.

I hate mean dealing with mean spirited people to begin with and it seems like for every one person that posts a legitimate answer for anything, there are multiple people that just troll or bash them. That's why I've stayed away from it for the most part.

 

[sns8778]

The mother****** gene?

That's nothing new - a lot of people have had that gene for a long time but it sure does seem like its more common and expressed now days

 

[CATdiesel76]

I had looked into that at one time but its a really weird situation. The person that has the trademark on it will sell companies the raw materials but will not allow any companies that release new products with it to call the ingredient Humanofort or even acknowledge that it is Humanofort - so there's literally no use in licensing it from them as zero people know what it is by technical name. That creates a way too sketchy situation for me to want to be involved with.

That is really odd. How in the hell do they expect to make money on it

 

[sns8778]

@sns8778 i will say that people having the MTHFR gene is like a big wave right now. Will it die down? Idk. Perhaps it’s just people having more access to gene testing via online test kits. But methylation products can be helpful for a lot of people and they seem fairly popular especially on Amazon.

I had researched it awhile ago and had put together a formula, but then we were never really asked to do one so I held off on it.

I'm definitely open to doing one. If you don't mind, can you pm me some links to some of the more common ones that you see?
The reason I'm asking is that my searches may be different than yours in that I may be looking at different terms.

 

[sns8778]

That is really odd. How in the hell do they expect to make money on it

Yeah, it was just truly weird and baffling and it gave me an uneasy feeling about the whole situation.

 

[sns8778]

I wanted to let everyone know that Fadogia XT is now available.

Fadogia XT - Intro Thread:

SNS Fadogia XT - Ultra-Potent - 625 mg. Per Capsule - Now Available - AnabolicMinds.com

Natural Testosterone Booster & Libido Enhancer Ultra-Potent 625 Mg. Per Capsule Fadogia Agrestis has a long history of use as a natural testosterone booster and libido enhancer. It also is commonly used to support peak physical performance, lean muscle, and overall vitality. Fadogia XT...

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For a limited time, save 20% off Fadogia XT and all stacks and multi-packs that include Fadogia XT.

Coupon code: fadogiaxt20

Fadogia XT | Serious Nutrition Solutions

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