Supplements That Have Blown You Away

[bdcc]

ive had the best results with the second version of Mass FX (never tried the first one) - "Mass FX- the Destroyer" the new version is crap on the other hand...

ive gained like crazy on this stuff...

This one?

Mass FX Proprietary Blend: 404 mg - Zinc Amino Acid Chelate: 10 mg 67% DV​

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Ingredients:​

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DivanAX-95™(Proprietary UrticaDioicaLignanComplex), Stigmast-5-en-3b-ol (Standardized for NLT 90% phytosterols), 25R-Diol™[(3b,5a,6a,25R)-spirostan-3,6-diol], 25R-X™[(25R)-6-Oxospirost-5-en-3b-ol], Epimediumextract (Standardized to 40% Icariin), Propionyl-L-Carnitine.​

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[celc5]

Aspire 36

Was this recall THE reason for the downfall of the company?

 

[warsteiner]

I don't think this was the downfall of Palo Alto Labs, it's just that they decided to go down a different route. I think with Aspire 36 they discovered how much interest there is in this type of sup and that there's more money to be made form sups outside of the fitness industry.

As for a product that I would love to see make a return - the original Bioforge.

 

[JudoJosh]

Keep the suggestions coming, we will make new threads about the "consensus" supplements to delve into why they were so effective and what would work best with them

Maybe Admin or David Dunn can move my GDA thread up in here. It was going good for a while

 

[BigGame84]

Was this recall THE reason for the downfall of the company?

I believe Aspire 36 was actually spiked with Cialis. I remeber getting intense headaches but the man of steel for over 24 hours.

 

[BBB]

Trenabol X - I've tried a lot of things over my nearly 25 years of lifting, I've never grown as much on any other product. Designed by Big Cat. It really worked.

 

[EatMoar]

I need try out some pump spray asap, im so interested in that stuff.

My favorites:

Alphamine- absolutely love the flavor and decimates fat, it takes no prisoners.
Erase- exceptional drying out and E control (along with cort )
L-theanine - i swear this stuff in low doses even relaxes me
PhenylPiracitum - its like a second wind on those long study sessions
OG Craze- insane ****ing focus, that is all.

If anyone remembers APNuts Lit Up PWO it was , hands down, the best PWO i have responded to ever. No idea why, it was just one of my favorite for energy, mood elevation, and pumps.

Thats pretty much it for me, just ordered some SSv2 and can wait to see how that stuff effects me.

 

[ryanp81]

Cre02, love it and will never stop using it.
Biotest's methoxy 7 and MD6 ( both Nor E and E versions ) stuff just worked.
VPX Clenbutrx...OG formula.

 

[kev4me]

This one?

Mass FX Proprietary Blend: 404 mg - Zinc Amino Acid Chelate: 10 mg 67% DV​

Ingredients:​

DivanAX-95™(Proprietary UrticaDioicaLignanComplex), Stigmast-5-en-3b-ol (Standardized for NLT 90% phytosterols), 25R-Diol™[(3b,5a,6a,25R)-spirostan-3,6-diol], 25R-X™[(25R)-6-Oxospirost-5-en-3b-ol], Epimediumextract (Standardized to 40% Icariin), Propionyl-L-Carnitine.​

no, the one ive used had bergamottin in it...

 

[Rodja]

I sort of inadvertently cycle it when I forget to take it, or I run out for a few weeks. Ahhh, 4AD/1T transdermal. You and I are of the old school TBone, none of these children here will know that of which we speak. We should pity them all

Speaking of, I wonder what Par, Savage, Loki, etc. are all up to these days?

 

[quigs]

Speaking of, I wonder what Par, Savage, Loki, etc. are all up to these days?

Gotta love Avant labs. Remember IN-rage? Phenogen? Some great products. Wish they were still around.

 

[daman43]

I remember reading somewhere that Matt Pearson may bring back the Leptigen product. Avant Labs was ahead of their time.

 

[flightposite]

Was really impressed with

Natadrol
1-T
TheOne
Drive
MassEFX
UltraReps
AMS decavol

I'm sure there are a few others I'm forgetting but I remember being both surprised and impressed with those products.

 

[PuZo]

GDAs/Fat Blockers (for the lack of a better term)

The popular ones: Berberine, Na-R-Ala, Gymnema Sylvestra, Corosolic Acid, Momordica, HCA, GCBE, Raspberry Ketones

Ones on the edge: Pterostilbene, Cyanidin-3-Glucoside, Agmatine

Raspberry Ketones and GCBE over Agmatine?

 

[gmc4180]

My All-Time Favorites List (In no particular order):

AN RPM + DRIVE
Nimbus Poseidon
AEN PreSurge (ORIGINAL)
MST Cordygen5
USPLabs P-Slin
AX Slim Xtreme
DS Craze
AN UnCut* (Currently using, 90% focus of Craze and I can actually sleep at night)

 

[domore]

Raspberry Ketones and GCBE over Agmatine?

I was just listing them. I normally use a combination of Na-R-Ala and agmatine.

 

[thebigt]

the original stimulant x...not any of the 'new and improved versions'....the original!!!


now that was a stim!!!

 

[ryanp81]

My All-Time Favorites List (In no particular order):
MST Cordygen5

Cordygen 5 is the ****.

 

[AdelV]

Nothing has blown me away, honestly question weather any supplements do much.

Aspire36. It worked, amazing for massive weekends.

 

[quigs]

A few that I can remember off hand are:

Twinlab ripped fuel (original)
Cytodyne Xenedrine
Syntrax Swole V. 2.0
Syntrax Adipokinetix (Nor-ephedrine)
Ergopharm AMP + Avant Labs HEAT stack
Scivation Xtend
DS Craze
Iforce Compete (this one really surprised me. Absolutely love the product.)
Iforce Hemavol

 

[ironranger]

I believe Aspire 36 was actually spiked with Cialis. I remeber getting intense headaches but the man of steel for over 24 hours.

Yes, it was found to have been spiked, it also gave me a headache..was strong stuff!

 

[AdelV]

Yes, it was found to have been spiked, it also gave me a headache..was strong stuff!

Worked better than Cialis. It was spiked with 2 different forms. It wasnt Cialis.

 

[ironranger]

Years ago AST sports put out a supplement called AST 3 Andro Xtreme. From memory it had 100 milligrams 4-Androstenediol 100 mg 5-Androstenediol 100 mg 19-Norandrostenedione.
May have been a few other things also in it. Was good stuff, banned now.
These days impressed with erase and DAA. Great combination, and actualy works!....specially for us older guys lol

 

[T-Bone]

I did forget DAA. DAA is definitely something that has blown me and my toilet away. Works great but most products do produce some diarrhea.

 

[ryanp81]

Syntrax Adipokinetix (Nor-ephedrine)

Yep stuff was super potent, I was a bigger fan of the MD-6 with nor-e. Nor-e made my scalp itch like crazy for some reason.

 

[ryanp81]

Can't forget Androsol and Nandrosol...those where awesome, so was the Epharm 4ad spray.

 

[thebigt]

Can't forget Androsol and Nandrosol...those where awesome, so was the Epharm 4ad spray.

pa must have figured things out with topicals, lol......his 1st venture into a topical [skulpt] was a total bust, imo.

 

[ryanp81]

pa must have figured things out with topicals, lol......his 1st venture into a topical [skulpt] was a total bust, imo.

4ad spray came out in the end of 1999 I think or the early 2000's, way before skulpt. It was an alcohol based spray, so was Androsol/Nandrosol (biotest )

 

[thebigt]

4ad spray came out in the end of 1999 I think or the early 2000's, way before skulpt. It was an alcohol based spray, so was Androsol/Nandrosol (biotest )

so why was skulpt such a dud.....one of the worst products i've ever used.

 

[BigGame84]

pa must have figured things out with topicals, lol......his 1st venture into a topical [skulpt] was a total bust, imo.

I've tried several bottles of Pump Spray and really didn't notice anything but a little better vascularity. I wouldn't buy again. And UR Spray I thought wasn't much better. After going through 5 bottles, I wouldn't buy that again. Also gets expensive when one bottle only last 2 weeks and can be a PITA when you should apply twice a day. Meh. I am a fan of the Pat's other products though, including PN COP.

 

[cumminslifter]

bio-grow actually impressed me

 

[mayhem99]

AMS 1andro and 4ad: Got really lean on this combo to bad it didn't last (my fault mind you )

PES ERASE + DAA: Like these two for a cheap cutting combo seems to dry me out and give me some energy when I am on calorie restriction.


running Bulbine Natalensis right now not sure about it but only a few days in studies behind point to good things.

 

[hsk]

Staples:

Magnesium Creatine Chelate/Creatine Mono
Citrulline Malate
Agmatine
CDP Choline (Citicoline)
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Adaptogen/Hormonal Products:

Icariin (40% or higher extracts)
Bulbine Natalensis (Prolensis)
AnaBeta (Original)
Cordyceps

 

[ryanp81]

so why was skulpt such a dud.....one of the worst products i've ever used.

Don't know bubba, never tried it.

 

[ABNRanger]

For me, that supps that just blew me away are:
Dymetadrine Xtreme (when it had ephedra)
MAX LMG by Alri
Ultimate Orange- old version

 

[EasyEJL]

there are a few joint supplements that blew me away on initial use, but sadly none of them were still blowing me away at the 3-4 month mark.

 

[T-Bone]

I've tried several bottles of Pump Spray and really didn't notice anything but a little better vascularity. I wouldn't buy again. And UR Spray I thought wasn't much better. After going through 5 bottles, I wouldn't buy that again. Also gets expensive when one bottle only last 2 weeks and can be a PITA when you should apply twice a day. Meh. I am a fan of the Pat's other products though, including PN COP.

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Ursolic acid looks great on paper. Even though some things look great on paper doesn't mean they will always work out in real world application.

 

[CATdiesel76]

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Ursolic acid looks great on paper. Even though some things look great on paper doesn't mean they will always work out in real world application.

I have had pretty damn good results with UR-Spray. Got size, strength, fat loss. Not so much with pump spray. I think UR is very finicky about dosage being above a certain threshold because that extra little bit made all the difference

 

[BigGame84]

I have had pretty damn good results with UR-Spray. Got size, strength, fat loss. Not so much with pump spray. I think UR is very finicky about dosage being above a certain threshold because that extra little bit made all the difference

What was your dosage? I was doing 50 sprays 2x a day. I immediately noticed more sweat during workouts but also notice the same when I drink liquid carnitine. I ran 5 bottles straight and while I may have lost a little fat, didn't notice any size or strength gain. I don't think the product is a bust but just didn't think enough of it to want to buy more bottles. I was getting 2 weeks to a bottle and at $40 a rip, I just didn't think it was worth it. Perhaps the TAA caps will be worth trying but I also have my doubts. That being said, I'm going to try them when they do become available.

 

[pyrobatt]

I thought this would be an interesting way to kick things off. Everyone has their favorite 1-2 products (from any era) that they just responded exceptionally well to. Post your products here and we will discuss how and why these products worked so well for you from a scientific standpoint. I have a feeling we will see a lot of consistencies in terms of mechanism of action on a category by category basis.

Creatine and cop. May not be flashy but these blew me away.

 

[jgaz18]

Xenadrine RFA-1 the original formula with Ephedra was my favorite! I lost a ton of fat and had crazy energy! Fat burners just aren't the same anymore! I just can't seem to find a legit ephedra product anymore

 

[thebigt]

og poseidon...if you work in a very hot environment poseidon was very beneficial

 

[CATdiesel76]

What was your dosage? I was doing 50 sprays 2x a day. I immediately noticed more sweat during workouts but also notice the same when I drink liquid carnitine. I ran 5 bottles straight and while I may have lost a little fat, didn't notice any size or strength gain. I don't think the product is a bust but just didn't think enough of it to want to buy more bottles. I was getting 2 weeks to a bottle and at $40 a rip, I just didn't think it was worth it. Perhaps the TAA caps will be worth trying but I also have my doubts. That being said, I'm going to try them when they do become available.

Wasn't counting sprays but I'd cover as much area as I could 2x daily. A bottle would last me 2 weeks as well. I didn't notice any fat loss until about week 3. Strength came about week 2 as did increased pumps. Nothing mind blowing strength wise but a definite noticeable increase. More reps and more weight. Been really wanting to run 8 weeks straight but it hasn't been in stock.

Also, both times I ran it I recall thinking it was a waste fat loss wise and wasn't doing anything for my waist line. Then out of nowhere I would have more visible abs and my muscle separation was much more apparent

 

[Iron Warrior]

Avant Labs and Chemo (original owner of Anabolic Minds) made an awesome 4-AD and 1-Test transdermal until the FDA messed up the legal route. Loved Xenadrine with Ephedrine. M1T was bad ass too.

 

[cumminslifter]

i just tried condense for the first time today. awesome pump

 

[thebigt]

aps- mesomorph/creatine nitrate combo

 

[BBB]

I've tried several bottles of Pump Spray and really didn't notice anything but a little better vascularity. I wouldn't buy again. And UR Spray I thought wasn't much better. After going through 5 bottles, I wouldn't buy that again. Also gets expensive when one bottle only last 2 weeks and can be a PITA when you should apply twice a day. Meh. I am a fan of the Pat's other products though, including PN COP.

I concur fully with you comments on Pump Spray and UR Spray. I do like Pat's COP stacked with TCF-2. Add a little creatine and a decent AI and you have one of the best natty stacks on the market.

 

[Motorgrunt]

Cissus. arm pain from pitching and shin splints in one leg from injury. Cissus worked for me. No more pain.

 

[Motorgrunt]

there are a few joint supplements that blew me away on initial use, but sadly none of them were still blowing me away at the 3-4 month mark.

ever used cissus?

 

[BigGame84]

I think E-Pharm Joint Force is one of the best products out there for joint problems