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Looks like it's going pretty good man, thanks for the heads up on your log. It's been hard to keep up with everyone lately cause of work and I'm going to be deploying again here at the end of the week for a bit. This time instead of South American jungles and desert, I get to go to eastern europe, thank god... I hear they have amenities such as showers and beer..lol

About your diet... I saw you posted Paleo early in the threads and gave an outline later on. How far off true Paleo do you expect to be? Only the pwo starches?

When you mention you are going to focus more on movements rather than individual muscles can I take this to mean you will be incorporating more compound exercises/Oly lifts? Or less weights in general and more body weight movements?

How about an increase plyometrics?

Anyhow, keep rockin brother
 
So I told you guys earlier on that I was going to be doing some unconventional lifts and anything new that you guys never heard of or would like explained I will. While no one really asked about this lift, except for Orangatang thinking I put keg stand :cheers: , I figured what the hell let me show you guys this move. Yestarday I did keg triple extensions. This is the first time I tried these and they are great! A great accessory lift to a deadlift day and a great exercise for an athlethe such as a wrestler. Since it was my first time the keg was empty because I was trying to focus on form and how it felt to go through the motion. This can be done with a keg or sandbag too. I did mine with resistence which was the bands that stopped me but you can do these without bands outside and just lauch the object over you. It is a triple extension of the hips, knees and ankles hence the name keg triple extension.

I made a quick video after BJJ today and was pretty tired so only did one. The first one it kind of slipped so I re-adjusted and went again. I know my form isn't perfect but I am still learning the movement. It is sort of like a suplex I think.

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Notice the APS shirt :thumbsup:

 
For some reason the video isnt embedding :dunno: so here is the link

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Milas said:
6-bromo is good dosed 25-50mg for weight loss. You have to dose around 200mg for anabolic effects. For the latter, you'd need a few bottles. Former, G2G with 1 bottle.
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AZMIDLYF said:
Nice post Milas. I wouldn't go above 50mg if you want your libido to hang around.:biggthumpup:
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Thanks I was thinking of 25mg a day and maybe upping to 50mg to see how it is but I will prolly stick around 25. I have 4 bottles so I prolly could go higher but I rather save the other ones for future stacks.
 
CopyCat said:
Looks like it's going pretty good man, thanks for the heads up on your log. It's been hard to keep up with everyone lately cause of work and I'm going to be deploying again here at the end of the week for a bit. This time instead of South American jungles and desert, I get to go to eastern europe, thank god... I hear they have amenities such as showers and beer..lol

About your diet... I saw you posted Paleo early in the threads and gave an outline later on. How far off true Paleo do you expect to be? Only the pwo starches?

When you mention you are going to focus more on movements rather than individual muscles can I take this to mean you will be incorporating more compound exercises/Oly lifts? Or less weights in general and more body weight movements?

How about an increase plyometrics?

Anyhow, keep rockin brother
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Yea its tuff keeping up with everyone on the site. Glad to hear you are going someone nicer! Showers are always a good thing and beer makes it that much better! My cousin is in the navy and I think deploys at the end of the year but he doesn't know where yet.

As for paleo.. I usually am influenced by my food choices by the paleo principles but I am not too strict with it. I don't do any grains really in the diet with the exception of WMS which is corn I believe, and even with that it is a recent addition to my diet and don't know how long I am going to be using it. It wil ldepend on how I feel and my body compostion changes, but other than that I am pretty paleo. NO milk, I occisonally eat chesse but not too much, I do eat green beans, tubers such as sweet potatoes and red potatoes, and quiona. No bread, pasta, sugar, oats, flour, etc.

When I was talking about exercises I was talking about how the typical person workouts out (i.e chest day, where there do 10 different chest exercises and focus on isolation moves for asthetic purposes) since I am more active in BJJ & Judo and am going to start dabbling into a little MMA and boxing soon, so now I lift with the movement patterns of those sports in mind.

I rarely do oly lifts other than maybe power cleans. I feel they are not really needed for devolping explosive power. While they do help tremendously they also require alot of skill to master to be able to do with heavy weights. Olympic lifting is a sport in and of itself and some people spend their entire lives mastering them. I just feel they are not needed and more time can be spent on other exercises that work just as well.

You do crossfit right? I know they do alot of oly lifts in there programs and I am not talking down on those lifts I am just saying personally I dont do them. As for weights I am using maximal effort and repeated effort for this log. With maximal effort I will focus on lifting more and more weight and using a weight that is near my 1RM. For repeated effort I will be using a sub-maximal weight and will focus on getting more and more total reps everytime I lift. I will be incorporating bodyweight movements into my routine thoughout it along with strongman lifts, unconventional lifts, etc..

Orangatang said:
interesting move judo! hows that treating the low back??
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Suprisingly I didnt feel much strain in my low back from doing these. I know it looks like I arch way back but I didnt really feel much in my lower back like I would have doing like back extensions. The keg was empty though and next time I will start to put some water in and see if when it is weighted at the top part of the movement I might feel a little more strain on my back. I think the first to give out was my legs and than my arms from bear hugging the keg. I am dreading when I put water in it next time I do these.. not because of the weight but because it is FREEZING in my basement and when there is water in the keg it leaks everywhere. I am gonna be soaked and freezing next time.
 
Have a party. Let everyone else drink. Exchange your perforated keg with new keg. Don't be wet and cold. jk dude if i had a keg id like to give that a go
 
Orangatang said:
Have a party. Let everyone else drink. Exchange your perforated keg with new keg. Don't be wet and cold. jk dude if i had a keg id like to give that a go
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How do you think I got my keg? :cheers:

Have a keg party and just dont return the keg. All they do is keep the deposit. It leaks from the top part.. it isnt a complete seal. I should go to a hardware store and find a plug that fits it but I havent. BTW you can try this with a sand bag too. Make yourself a sand bag.. go outside.. and launch that sucka over your head and then sprint to where ever it landed and throw it again. It would make a fun cardio day for sure
 
Always great to check into your logs buddy, I learn a ton every time!! If you want some core work that will specifically help, I'd add these: Decline Russian Twists, done with a medicine ball. Keep it tucked into the side your twisting, and as you come back to center, push it forward with the arm/hand from the same side. Switch hands, and do the same for the other side. Medicine ball push throws, kinda like a double handed basketball pass from the chest, just with a medicine ball. Medicine ball slams, done by hoisting it overhead keeping your arms straight, then slamming in on the floor by keeping your arms straight and throwing it down. Finally, attach a "D" handle to a cable machine at roughly chest/ab level and select a light weight to start. Keep your feet about shoulder width apart, some people stagger the stance with your lead foot a bit forward. Facing forward, the handle should be either at your 3 or 9 O'clock. Twist your body to grab it, and return to the straight ahead position. Keep your arms extended in front of your chest. This one is sneaky in how hard it is, kinda like side planks. These I use to increase my punching power and to a degree, my kicks as well. There are a couple others I sue as well, but I don't want to clutter up your log too much, so let me know if your interested bud. Keep up the good work!!
 
subweevil said:
Always great to check into your logs buddy, I learn a ton every time!! If you want some core work that will specifically help, I'd add these: Decline Russian Twists, done with a medicine ball. Keep it tucked into the side your twisting, and as you come back to center, push it forward with the arm/hand from the same side. Switch hands, and do the same for the other side. Medicine ball push throws, kinda like a double handed basketball pass from the chest, just with a medicine ball. Medicine ball slams, done by hoisting it overhead keeping your arms straight, then slamming in on the floor by keeping your arms straight and throwing it down. Finally, attach a "D" handle to a cable machine at roughly chest/ab level and select a light weight to start. Keep your feet about shoulder width apart, some people stagger the stance with your lead foot a bit forward. Facing forward, the handle should be either at your 3 or 9 O'clock. Twist your body to grab it, and return to the straight ahead position. Keep your arms extended in front of your chest. This one is sneaky in how hard it is, kinda like side planks. These I use to increase my punching power and to a degree, my kicks as well. There are a couple others I sue as well, but I don't want to clutter up your log too much, so let me know if your interested bud. Keep up the good work!!
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Thanks for all those tips bud I really appreaciate it. I was JUST going over my workout for tomorrow morning and was thinking of a core movement to do. I decided to combine core and grip and do some overhead walks with a sandbag but gripping it not just holding it. I dont have a medicine ball but I want one. I will either buy one or try to make one soon. As for the pulley again something I do not have in my basement BUT the gym I go to has a old one they are getting rid of and the owner said to come by wednesday and he will hook it up for cheap so i will have me a pulley setup soon.

Dont worry about "clutter" any info you have I am all ears!!!! I feel I have learned soooo much from this forum everytime I learn something new I try and give back to the forum with it or by trying to help others either with support or answering questions. Keep the tips coming if you got em!
 
One more core workout I'm going to add soon: overhead squat with a pipe filled about 1/2 with water. I've read 2 schools of thought on this. Some say workout on a unstable surface for core work, while others say to lift unstable loads for core work. What are your thoughts on this bud?
 
Sorry for posting so much, but you could use a dumbbell for the medicine ball when doing the Decline Russian Twists. I would advise against using it for the medicine ball slam.:slaphappy:
 
subweevil said:
Sorry for posting so much, but you could use a dumbbell for the medicine ball when doing the Decline Russian Twists. I would advise against using it for the medicine ball slam.:slaphappy:
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Have done that. Got up to 80lbs during my cut

probably cant even do half of that now. Havent worked on abs in about 6 months haha
 
subweevil said:
One more core workout I'm going to add soon: overhead squat with a pipe filled about 1/2 with water. I've read 2 schools of thought on this. Some say workout on a unstable surface for core work, while others say to lift unstable loads for core work. What are your thoughts on this bud?
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I think I saw this befoe on ross enamait website... its called a slosh pipe I believe. Go for it! make it and let me know how it turns out for you. I have thought about making one before to see how it was but never have. I think all it is is a 2" PVC pipe with caps and water inside.

As for the unstable surface vs unstable object.. I havent had much experience with unstable surfaces to comment on them. I know a while back bosu balls were all the craze and was believed it was the only way to train but that faded. I think the problem is people get too dogmatic with their training. I like to experiment and try new things out. I think that is the best way to go.. if something looks interesting than go for it. See how it works but dont tie yourself down to one style. Powerlifting, bodyweight exercises, strongman training, farmboy training, bodybuilding, crossfit, etc.. they all offer a unique perspective on how you should lift. You experiment with all of them and see what works for you and create a blend of it all. This is what I try to do at least.

subweevil said:
Sorry for posting so much, but you could use a dumbbell for the medicine ball when doing the Decline Russian Twists. I would advise against using it for the medicine ball slam.:slaphappy:
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Yea I can use a DB or prolly just a plate for the twist. When I get my pulley setup into my workout space in my basement I will give your ab routine a try. Not sure about slaming a DB on the ground.

thanks again for the core training tips :biggthumpup:
 
JudoJosh said:
For some reason the video isnt embedding :dunno: so here is the link

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Great exercise, I'd love to try that in a conditioning circuit, it's been forever since I've done conditioning circuits. I think my back would rip if I tried that at the moment lol
 
AndrewNico said:
Have done that. Got up to 80lbs during my cut

probably cant even do half of that now. Havent worked on abs in about 6 months haha
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Wow thats impressive.. I dont think my core is anywhere near that yet but I am working on it. I might start adding in some specific core work to my off days since I feel like I should give it some added attention.

islandmagic said:
making use of the bands i see nice
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Thanks.. I got a couple of those Elite FTS bands a while back when they ran a sale on them and never used them. I always wanted to use them but was hesistant for some reason. I might give them a shot one day on a squat or bench to see how it feels. Have you ever used them before?

JudgementDay said:
Great exercise, I'd love to try that in a conditioning circuit, it's been forever since I've done conditioning circuits. I think my back would rip if I tried that at the moment lol
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yea it might not be the best excercise for you to try since you pulled your back.. good luck with the chiro by the way.. hopefully you get back to 100% soon :fingersx:
 
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Woke up about hour ago took my APS supps along with some cissus and about to start warming up. Today is ME upper body. After my workout I have to go straight to work.. I got up a little later than I wanted to so I wont have time to type up the workout but I will type it when I get home tonight from work.

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DAMN ITS COLD IN MY BASEMENT!!!! I think I need me a space heater
 
I love useing band on my squat day... Have not done that in a while. But I also use a xvest too you should get one.... I love your logs bro!
 
islandmagic said:
I love useing band on my squat day... Have not done that in a while. But I also use a xvest too you should get one.... I love your logs bro!
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How do you use them for squat? On the decentric or ecentric part? And how much weight do you use? Is it a max weight or sub maximal? Like 50% of your 1rm or higher/lower?

Sorry for all the questions :D But I have been curious how people use them and I have yet to see someone on this board talk about them. I might use them on a off day as a strength conditioning tool and try and explode with the movement as fast as I can with a real light weight to see how it is

I dont have a vest but I want one. They are SUPER expensive!!!

Thanks for the kind words on my log.. You were one of my very first followers when I first starte logging.. remember my MST logs? Good time bruddah!!!

BOOM BOOM POW!!!! :rocketwhore:
 
JudoJosh said:
How do you use them for squat? On the decentric or ecentric part? And how much weight do you use? Is it a max weight or sub maximal? Like 50% of your 1rm or higher/lower?

Sorry for all the questions :D But I have been curious how people use them and I have yet to see someone on this board talk about them. I might use them on a off day as a strength conditioning tool and try and explode with the movement as fast as I can with a real light weight to see how it is

I dont have a vest but I want one. They are SUPER expensive!!!

Thanks for the kind words on my log.. You were one of my very first followers when I first starte logging.. remember my MST logs? Good time bruddah!!!

BOOM BOOM POW!!!! :rocketwhore:
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this is a great training vid of how to use the band.. I love doing these with a vest on ( 50lb)

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islandmagic said:
this is a great training vid of how to use the band.. I love doing these with a vest on ( 50lb)

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Thanks bud! I'm at work now and on my phone but when I get home I will watch them
 
wow...im in a little late but this log blew up fast!!

Subbed!!
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
wow...im in a little late but this log blew up fast!!

Subbed!!
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How's it going GH!!! Welcome to the party!! How you been? I haven't seen your log pop up in my usercp in a while so I assume you been busy huh?

I saw you did a fast prior to the super swole stack.. How'd that go? Did you try the amino drink suggestion I posted?

I been anxiously waiting for your return to your log. Always such impressive lifts and curious to see how your diet is outlined

BTW did you see the lift I did in the YouTube video?
 
My neck has been bothering me the past couple days.. I don't know if it's from grappling or from me just simply sleeping on it funny. I have been massaging it with a lacross ball but it has been about 3 days now. I am gonna look into some neck stretches and maybe see a chiropractor or massuse
 
You could use a band or bands for the cable exercise for abs I mentioned, sorry I didn't think of it then bud. It will yield the same results, as this move is all about Time Under Tension, so it should help with your lactic acid threshold.
 
subweevil said:
You could use a band or bands for the cable exercise for abs I mentioned, sorry I didn't think of it then bud. It will yield the same results, as this move is all about Time Under Tension, so it should help with your lactic acid threshold.
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Me likes them words there bud! I am going to be incorporatiting some time under tension work soon into my workouts
 
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As I said earlier I ended up waking up later than I would have liked and had to rush through my workout but I still managed to do all the lifts that I wanted to do. Intensity was way up today.. I think I can attribute this purely to mesomorph. I woke up, stumbled out of bed into the kitchen and made my meso drink, popped my APS caps and went downstairs to my cold freezing dungeon gym. Within minutes I was awake and warming up, halfway through my workout my rest times were getting less and less, and towards the end I just wanted to keep going! I love the energy and focus I get from mesomorph so far and for me personally this is a big deal as I hate when I go to lift and just aint feeling it and drag though the lifts.

Anyway here was todays workout:

ME UPPER BODY

*DeFranco upper body warmup routine followed by..

WARMUP
Pushups x20
Rotate lunges with band x5 each side
SandBag clean and press x 10

WORKOUT
Main Lift- Standing Military Press - 50x5/60x5/75x3/85x3/90x3/95x3/105x3/105x3
Supplemental - Bent over barbell row - 3x10@85
Accessory - Band assisted pull-ups - 2x10
Prehab - Reverse Punches with bands - 2x30
Core - Overhand walk with Sandbag - x100ft
Grip - Support grip 2x20sec @25

Some added conditioning for fun
Burpees x15

I still had energy at the end of my workout so I banged out 2 sets of 20 burpees as a finisher.

Only my second workout with this stack and it feel just as great and maybe even more better than my first one! Another observation I made today was at around 5-6 o'clock I got hit with a super tired feeling out of no where. Dont know where it came from because I was feeling great all day at work and then out of no where I am yawning every 5 mins and could barely function. I had a coupole cups of coffee to help get me through. I did take 50mg of the 6-bromo with lunch today and not sure if this had anything to do with it. I will seperate the dosages tomorrow and see if it happens again.

Tomorrow is BJJ and maybe some core work afterwards.
 
In the above workout I did "Reverse Band Punches" as my prehab and thought some people following my log could benefit from this exercise. Here is a brief summary from Jim Smith of the reasoning of the exercise along with a description of the setup. Real good work for fighters such as boxers or MMA guys

You might wonder why I am performing the reverse of the functional movement pattern we just discussed. It is quite simple – it must be done. Training to ensure the strength of the antagonists muscles (decelerators) of a movement is essential for maintaining the health and stability of the working joint. Also, we are creating power. How? We must train the decelerators of a movement to be able to achieve the greatest power output. I am not saying decelerate when you throw a punch – your body does that automatically to protect itself. I am saying build up the musculature that decelerates the striking movement to balance the shortening of the primary musculature. You have a group of muscles which aid in deceleration of a strike – the pectorals, latisimus dorsi, subscapularis, the anterior deltoid and the teres major – all of which are engaged with this movement. Special attention should be paid to these antagonists and also the stretching of the internal rotators of the shoulder. A shortened muscle will result in an imbalance of function of the muscle and its related muscle groups. There must be a balance. A punch is a horizontal push movement, so subsequently we must perform a horizontal pull movement (at multiple angles) to provide that balance.

The band is attached to the power cage at many different angles and the reverse movement can be done at multiple angles (with the shoulder abducted or not). Train all possible angles. Notice, you can still maintain the reverse movement through the hips or the torso can remain stationary. - Jim Smith
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JudoJosh said:
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As I said earlier I ended up waking up later than I would have liked and had to rush through my workout but I still managed to do all the lifts that I wanted to do. Intensity was way up today.. I think I can attribute this purely to mesomorph. I woke up, stumbled out of bed into the kitchen and made my meso drink, popped my APS caps and went downstairs to my cold freezing dungeon gym. Within minutes I was awake and warming up, halfway through my workout my rest times were getting less and less, and towards the end I just wanted to keep going! I love the energy and focus I get from mesomorph so far and for me personally this is a big deal as I hate when I go to lift and just aint feeling it and drag though the lifts.

Anyway here was todays workout:

ME UPPER BODY

*DeFranco upper body warmup routine followed by..

WARMUP
Pushups x20
Rotate lunges with band x5 each side
SandBag clean and press x 10

WORKOUT
Main Lift- Standing Military Press - 50x5/60x5/75x3/85x3/90x3/95x3/105x3/105x3
Supplemental - Bent over barbell row - 3x10@85
Accessory - Band assisted pull-ups - 2x10
Prehab - Reverse Punches with bands - 2x30
Core - Overhand walk with Sandbag - x100ft
Grip - Support grip 2x20sec @25

Some added conditioning for fun
Burpees x15

I still had energy at the end of my workout so I banged out 2 sets of 20 burpees as a finisher.

Only my second workout with this stack and it feel just as great and maybe even more better than my first one! Another observation I made today was at around 5-6 o'clock I got hit with a super tired feeling out of no where. Dont know where it came from because I was feeling great all day at work and then out of no where I am yawning every 5 mins and could barely function. I had a coupole cups of coffee to help get me through. I did take 50mg of the 6-bromo with lunch today and not sure if this had anything to do with it. I will seperate the dosages tomorrow and see if it happens again.

Tomorrow is BJJ and maybe some core work afterwards.
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Main Lift-
Supplemental -
Accessory -
Prehab -
Core -
Grip -

I really like the set up you have going here, copied and saved:D
 
I like this workout protocol, might use this for the next month or two, once I get all the movements set-up for the routine. I'll be taking notes.
 
JudgementDay said:
Main Lift-
Supplemental -
Accessory -
Prehab -
Core -
Grip -

I really like the set up you have going here, copied and saved:D
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subweevil said:
I like this workout protocol, might use this for the next month or two, once I get all the movements set-up for the routine. I'll be taking notes.
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Thanks guys! That is pretty much the routine right there in that outline. There are four days to it, two of which are maximum effort days and the other two repeated effort days. Max effort you strive for more and more weight while repeated effort your goal is to et more reps than previously with the same weight. The split is upper body and lower body. The actual exercises you choose can be whatever you want, what I am striving for is looking for the movements of a combat athlete and seeing why exercise I can do to strengthen those movements, but this can be done with any sport.

Next up is my two repeated effort days and I am pretty excited about them! Here is where I think the pump effect of the nitrate can really shine through!
 
thebigt said:
give it hell, josh1!!!!:28:
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:argh: :boom:

Thanks bud! My next two days should be fun! I plan on stepping up the intensity way more in the gym. I am also gonna try taking more CN caps and a little more mesomorph along with also dumping some of the caps into my mesomorph drink. What is the most you have taken of mesomorph and CN at once?

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Good luck with the new APS promo. You did a great job reviewing mesomorph, Tv2, and CN. I would like to hear your thoughts on their new product so I am rooting for you to get picked :cheers:
 
Easy there Josh...BigT treads in rarified air with regards to his stim intake!! Lol
 
StakedCop said:
I dont know how I fell so far behind on your log man! Lol
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Yea I know what you mean, I have to constantly keep checking in to keep up with it myself. This has been the fastest growing log I have ever done before and I'm sure it is entirely due to the APS stack. Ever since the release of mesomorph and creatine nitrate APS has been growing in popularity on the board. There is some real excitement over this products and with the new one being released it's only gonna get better
 
JudoJosh said:
Yea I know what you mean, I have to constantly keep checking in to keep up with it myself. This has been the fastest growing log I have ever done before and I'm sure it is entirely due to the APS stack. Ever since the release of mesomorph and creatine nitrate APS has been growing in popularity on the board. There is some real excitement over this products and with the new one being released it's only gonna get better
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but a lot of it is you josh!!! :poke:

btw-6 caps of cn with meso is great, don't see much reason to go higher. along with the meso 6 caps of cn = a full 8 cap dose of creatine nitrate.
 
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I ended up going to sleep pretty late last night despite the fact of how tired I was. I came home and said I was only gonna go on AM for a little bit and one thing lead to another and I was online for a couple hours. So I woke up this morning around 9am with only about 7hrs sleep and got a text message saying BJJ was canceled today. I was disappointed and happy at the same time. So I went back to sleep for another FOUR HOURS!!! It was great! I woke up, took 4 caps Testatrophin V-2 and a cap of yellow gold and went to make my breakfeast. I had 7 eggs scrambled with some hot sauce (BTW Franks red hot sauce is the SHIZ-NIT!!!) and after the eggs I had a banana. At my sons school today they were having a super bowl party and parents were invited to come so I went there after breakfeast and hung out with my little man. After all the games and activities they brought out pizza for everyone and at first I told myself I wasnt going to have any but not alot of paerents showed up and I think the teacher bought the pizzas with her own money so I ended up feeling bad and eating. She offered me a slice of pizza like 7 times while i was there!! If I known I would have takien some Na-Rala or P-slin before but ah well I enjoyed a couple slices of pizza and juice with my boy. So now I am feeling a little guilty from the poor eating and am about to pop in a P90x DVD and get a little workout in. Not sure which I am gonna do yet...
 
JudoJosh said:
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I ended up going to sleep pretty late last night despite the fact of how tired I was. I came home and said I was only gonna go on AM for a little bit and one thing lead to another and I was online for a couple hours. So I woke up this morning around 9am with only about 7hrs sleep and got a text message saying BJJ was canceled today. I was disappointed and happy at the same time. So I went back to sleep for another FOUR HOURS!!! It was great! I woke up, took 4 caps Testatrophin V-2 and a cap of yellow gold and went to make my breakfeast. I had 7 eggs scrambled with some hot sauce (BTW Franks red hot sauce is the SHIZ-NIT!!!) and after the eggs I had a banana. At my sons school today they were having a super bowl party and parents were invited to come so I went there after breakfeast and hung out with my little man. After all the games and activities they brought out pizza for everyone and at first I told myself I wasnt going to have any but not alot of paerents showed up and I think the teacher bought the pizzas with her own money so I ended up feeling bad and eating. She offered me a slice of pizza like 7 times while i was there!! If I known I would have takien some Na-Rala or P-slin before but ah well I enjoyed a couple slices of pizza and juice with my boy. So now I am feeling a little guilty from the poor eating and am about to pop in a P90x DVD and get a little workout in. Not sure which I am gonna do yet...
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Plyo-X!
 
Day: 2
Page #: 7

Thats got to be some kind of record lol.

And with regards to the pizza eating and PSlin comment, I was under the assumption that ingesting a large amount of fats with pslin/ap caused digestive problems. May have been a good thing you didnt take it!

Unless my broknowledge is false in which case carry on.
 
AndrewNico said:
Day: 2
Page #: 7

Thats got to be some kind of record lol.

And with regards to the pizza eating and PSlin comment, I was under the assumption that ingesting a large amount of fats with pslin/ap caused digestive problems. May have been a good thing you didnt take it!

Unless my broknowledge is false in which case carry on.
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I think you meant to say Brotelligence
 
AndrewNico said:
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Thats got to be some kind of record lol.

And with regards to the pizza eating and PSlin comment, I was under the assumption that ingesting a large amount of fats with pslin/ap caused digestive problems. May have been a good thing you didnt take it!

Unless my broknowledge is false in which case carry on.
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Thanks for the heads up I didn't know that so I guess it is a good thing I didn't take it. Do you know if it is the same with Na-Rala and berberine?
 
JudoJosh said:
Thanks for the heads up I didn't know that so I guess it is a good thing I didn't take it. Do you know if it is the same with Na-Rala and berberine?
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no clue

I just remember asking one of the usplabs reps on bb.com and they said to avoid taking it with >20g fat or somewhere around that
 
AndrewNico said:
no clue

I just remember asking one of the usplabs reps on bb.com and they said to avoid taking it with >20g fat or somewhere around that
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Hmmm I never heard of it before but I'm still tryna understand how all these nutrient partioners work. Thanks for the heads up though..

Right now I am only taking the p-slin with my post workout shake which is WMS and a couple hours later some potatoes. I use yellow gold when I eat simple carbs like my fruit. I just mixed up some Na-Rala with yellow gold and cinnamon and am gonna switch my p-slin out for this mix.

Im still tryna figure out all the differences between them myself.
 
Franks is the best, let me dig up a pic from my old log.....


I put that **** on everything :biggthumpup:
 

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