Sarah Palin's $150k Wardrobe.

[RobInKuwait]

DENVER — Republicans are slashing their television advertising at Colorado's three biggest television stations, a troubling sign for presidential nominee John McCain.

McCain is headed to Colorado Friday, but public records provided by three Denver stations show the GOP this week cut their ad spending for McCain by 46 percent.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081023/ap_on_el_pr/colorado_gop_spending

And Palin set a record for crowd size the same day. Don't you think if a "news" station is going to say a candidate is giving up on a state it should come from the campaign?

 

[Turd]

And Palin set a record for crowd size the same day.

More than the 80,000 that showed up at Invesco Field

Don't you think if a "news" station is going to say a candidate is giving up on a state it should come from the campaign?

I don't think any campaign would admit they're giving up on a state.

 

[CDB]

I've asked the same question to Mccain supporters, some don't know some don't care.

check out the elitist's fancy shoes.

That'd be relevant if elitism had anything to do with clothing, but it doesn't. Dressing nice may be a sign of narcisism. Elitism simply means you think you are better and/or know better than people you disagree with, and that you look down on them as inferior.

 

[Turd]

That'd be relevant if elitism had anything to do with clothing, but it doesn't. Dressing nice may be a sign of narcisism. Elitism simply means you think you are better and/or know better than people you disagree with, and that you look down on them as inferior.

So would you consider someone an elitist if they had a propensity for violence when someone disagrees with them.

 

[AE14]

I don't think any campaign would admit they're giving up on a state.

McCain did already in Michigan

 

[Turd]

McCain did already in Michigan

Admitting that you are giving up one would cause a small ripple amongst the press and supporters. Admitting that you are giving up two would creat a tsunami.

 

[Kristofer68SS]

That's like me betting that the Phillies will win Game 1.


Laughing at her shows more about you, than her.

Yeah i have a sense of humor....... I have to.

Those two are some sad a s s respresentatives of the republican party.

Its really sad, thats the best they come up to bat with.

LOL.....

Obama wins......

Beg to differ? If so.

Care to put some money where your mouth is?

 

[Kristofer68SS]

Hmmmm... I don't see to many people justifying Palin's phuckups. IN FACT, it seems like the right just doesn't care. But on the contrary, if someone says one think about the Messiah, the TRUTH squad is ALL OVER IT! Thank God Talk radio will be shut down soon... or what would the right do?

Adams

Its hard to justify ignorance of your own platform.....Or wait, that's just "ambush journalism". LOL Shes a joke.

John Stewart on Sarah Palin - Stupid VP Idiot | Cool Web Gossip lol

Fox news is a joke...... lol

The right will care soon enough. When McCain and Palin are defeated in November.

LOL.

 

[EasyEJL]

How do you feel about Palin's membership in, and support for a group headed by Joe Vogler?

Do you have any evidence of it? no, I didn't think so, she was never a member. but it was a nice line for the liberal media to spread, like the fact that trig wasn't her own child. rumor mills are great

 

[RobInKuwait]

I don't think any campaign would admit they're giving up on a state.

They did on Michigan....

edit-NM, I'm late on that response

 

[Turd]

Do you have any evidence of it? no, I didn't think so, she was never a member. but it was a nice line for the liberal media to spread, like the fact that trig wasn't her own child. rumor mills are great

Her husband was. Do you remeber all the accusations at Barack about associating with people who don't love America?


The vice chairman of the AIP said she was a member and that she had to join the republican party to further the AIP's goals.

 

[EasyEJL]

Her husband was. Do you remeber all the accusations at Barack about associating with people who don't love America?


The vice chairman of the AIP said she was a member and that she had to join the republican party to further the AIP's goals.

Funny, the vice chairman said that, and the chairman said she wasn't. no records show she was either.

And the AIP isn't anit-american as they want the status of Alaska settled. Although its called a state, it doesn't have the normal autonomy a state is and is still closer to a territory like Puerto Rico is. So although some of them want to secede, some of them just want full statehood for Alaska.

A little different than building bombs to use on american targets.

 

[strategicmove]

...Elitism simply means you think you are better and/or know better than people you disagree with, and that you look down on them as inferior.

How about some more objective classical definitions of an elite? Consider two independent sources:

1) elite - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Main Entry: elite
Pronunciation: \ā-ˈlēt, i-, ē-\
Function: noun
Etymology: French élite, from Old French eslite, from feminine of eslit, past participle of eslire to choose, from Latin eligere
Date: 1823

1 a singular or plural in construction : the choice part : CREAM <the elite of the entertainment world> b singular or plural in construction : the best of a class <superachievers who dominate the computer elite — Marilyn Chase> c singular or plural in construction : the socially superior part of society <how the elite live — A P World> <how the French-speaking elite…was changing — Economist> d : a group of persons who by virtue of position or education exercise much power or influence <members of the ruling elite> <the intellectual elites of the country> e : a member of such an elite —usually used in plural <the elites …, pursuing their studies in Europe — Robert Wernick>
2 : a typewriter type providing 12 characters to the linear inch
— elite adjective

2) elite - definition of elite by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

e·lite or é·lite
n. pl. elite or e·lites
1.
a. A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status: "In addition to notions of social equality there was much emphasis on the role of elites and of heroes within them" Times Literary Supplement.
b. The best or most skilled members of a group: the football team's elite.
2. A size of type on a typewriter, equal to 12 characters per linear inch.

[French élite, from Old French eslite, from feminine past participle of eslire, to choose, from Latin ligere; see elect.]

e·lite adj.

elite [ill-eet]
Noun
the most powerful, rich, or gifted members of a group or community [French]

Noun 1. elite - a group or class of persons enjoying superior intellectual or social or economic status

elite group
upper class, upper crust - the class occupying the highest position in the social hierarchy
elect, chosen - an exclusive group of people; "one of the elect who have power inside the government"
cream, pick - the best people or things in a group; "the cream of England's young men were killed in the Great War"
clerisy, intelligentsia - an educated and intellectual elite
beau monde, bon ton, high society, smart set, society - the fashionable elite
few - a small elite group; "it was designed for the discriminating few"
aristocracy, nobility - a privileged class holding hereditary titles
technocrat - an expert who is a member of a highly skilled elite group

Adj. 1. elite - selected as the best; "an elect circle of artists"; "elite colleges"
elect
selected - chosen in preference to another

 

[datBtrue]

I miss Evel Knievel.

I bet HE could bring us all together.

Sometimes you have to stop and ask yourself "What would Evel do?"

Oh well ...at least he tried.

We will never forget you oh great one.

 

[AE14]

all of this nonsense is such hypocrisy. I mean lets look at it this way:

Even if Obama had a relationship with Ayers, and is guilty by association: we have this nonsense as well

Palin and the AIP. Even is she herself was not involved (which is debatable) her husband was, and Vogler proposed speech was sponsored by the government of Iran which was to directly oppose and hurt the US... Tsk tsk

McCain and his guilt by association. If you look at McCain's donors list, who appears? the Annenbbergs. So Obama is guilty through association, but McCain accepting $ from the group that allowed this terrorist to sit on the board is not guilty? Wow, and they say the liberal media is biased :rofl:

 

[AE14]

just to ad this:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200810090018

Barr uncritically reported the ad's claim that Obama and Ayers "worked together for years" -- a reference to their work on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which the ad claims is "a radical 'education' foundation." However, Barr did not note that McCain supporter Arnold R. Weber, like Ayers and Obama, also worked with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Nor did Barr note that Leonore Annenberg -- whose husband, Walter, funded the Annenberg Challenge -- has been touted by the McCain campaign as a prominent supporter.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

How about some more objective classical definitions of an elite? Consider two independent sources:

The way it used within politics is almost always the way CDB described. If you do not know this, you don't follow politics very much. Its a term used to describe attitude, not personal wealth as they all are well off. Its the same way "liberal" is not used by its literal definition in American politics.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

just to ad this:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200810090018

Media Matters. A bastion of objectivity.


:rofl:

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Even if Obama had a relationship with Ayers, and is guilty by association: we have this nonsense as well

Actually I think Stanley Kurtz describes it rather well. Its not guilt by association, its guilt by participation. It's one thing to be supported by someone (hence a light association), quite another to actively participate with that person.

Its the same type of reasoning they used for Hagee endorsing McCain to counter Obama's relationship to Wright. Its a reach across an imaginary line that each individual must draw.

 

[RobInKuwait]

all of this nonsense is such hypocrisy.

Only if you look at it through Kool Aid colored glasses.

I mean lets look at it this way:

Even if Obama had a relationship with Ayers, and is guilty by association: we have this nonsense as well

The man IS a domestic terrorist. An unrepentant domestic terrorist. Its very relevant if a potential POTUS is keeping this company. Throw in the fact that this man was important in starting Obama's political career and this is even more disturbing.

This isn't something you haven't heard, its something you have consistently minimized and marginalized. Like I said, kool-aid colored glasses.

Palin and the AIP. Even is she herself was not involved (which is debatable) her husband was, and Vogler proposed speech was sponsored by the government of Iran which was to directly oppose and hurt the US... Tsk tsk

You give links to everything else and nothing to back up this accusation?

McCain and his guilt by association. If you look at McCain's donors list, who appears? the Annenbbergs. So Obama is guilty through association, but McCain accepting $ from the group that allowed this terrorist to sit on the board is not guilty? Wow, and they say the liberal media is biased :rofl:

Or you could look at it this way....a group who had a presidential candidate on the board of their foundation gave money to the other guy, they must've loved the job Barry did.....

 

[Mulletsoldier]

The way it used within politics is almost always the way CDB described. If you do not know this, you don't follow politics very much. Its a term used to describe attitude, not personal wealth as they all are well off. Its the same way "liberal" is not used by its literal definition in American politics.

You are not a big fan of objective semantics, are you? I would say if you are consistently using words out of context than you do not follow linguistics; as much as Americans like to assume so, the world's syntactical structure does not bend at your whim!

I cannot just modify the definition of hamburger to mean, "having social or political views favoring conservatism" and decide to use it in place of conservatism; definitions are there for a reason, B.

:rasp:

 

[strategicmove]

You are not a big fan of objective semantics, are you? I would say if you are consistently using words out of context than you do not follow linguistics; as much as Americans like to assume so, the world's syntactical structure does not bend at your whim!

I cannot just modify the definition of hamburger to mean, "having social or political views favoring conservatism" and decide to use it in place of conservatism; definitions are there for a reason, B.

:rasp:

Mullet!

 

[Dwight Schrute]

You are not a big fan of objective semantics, are you? I would say if you are consistently using words out of context than you do not follow linguistics; as much as Americans like to assume so, the world's syntactical structure does not bend at your whim!


I cannot just modify the definition of hamburger to mean, "having social or political views favoring conservatism" and decide to use it in place of conservatism; definitions are there for a reason, B.

:rasp:

Mullet,

The art of politics is the art of twisting words and definitions. If you consistently use words of out of context, you not only ignore linguistics, but you make one hell of a politician.

It is what it is. Literal definitions within politics fly out the window.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

Mullet,

The art of politics is the art of twisting words and definitions. If you consistently use words of out of context, you not only ignore linguistics, but you make one hell of a politician.

It is what it is. Literal definitions within politics fly out the window.

No, that is fine!

I realize now that you know they are out of context; so, my apologies there! I just cringe when I see certain American individuals in this forum carelessly lob out "Socialism", "Social Democracy", "Liberal" and so forth without having any idea what the word truly means.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

No, that is fine!

I realize now that you know they are out of context; so, my apologies there! I just cringe when I see certain American individuals in this forum carelessly lob out "Socialism", "Social Democracy", "Liberal" and so forth without having any idea what the word truly means.

Irony check: This sentence is Elitist, as I am implying I am privy to the 'correct' form of semantics!

:rofl:

 

[Dwight Schrute]

No, that is fine!

I realize now that you know they are out of context; so, my apologies there! I just cringe when I see certain American individuals in this forum carelessly lob out "Socialism", "Social Democracy", "Liberal" and so forth without having any idea what the word truly means.

I agree, but that's Washington at its finest.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Irony check: This sentence is Elitist, as I am implying I am privy to the 'correct' form of semantics!

:rofl:

To further the distortion, there are people within this forum who would consider us elitists simply because of our....style.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

I agree, but that's Washington at its finest.

Well, now we agree on two things: this semantics issue, and the amount of Hush Money we at USP Labs pay you every month!

I mean, uh, shh....

 

[Mulletsoldier]

To further the distortion, there are people within this forum who would consider us elitists simply because of our....style.

I am sure there are more who consider us Elitist because you and I consort on whom to ban, which threads to close, and with 'USP-Hate Threads' to suppress!

:rofl:

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Well, now we agree on two things: this semantics issue, and the amount of Hush Money we at USP Labs pay you every month!

I mean, uh, shh....

How bout those Flyers?

 

[Mulletsoldier]

How bout those Flyers?

How about the Rangers? Strong start to a year!

Honestly, I did not think the Flyers would fare this poorly, especially after last year's ECF. Sadly, nobody gives a flying (pun intended) **** about hockey anymore.

 

[Turd]

Funny, the vice chairman said that, and the chairman said she wasn't. no records show she was either.

The chairman originally said she and Todd were both members then later changed her story.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

How about the Rangers? Strong start to a year!

Honestly, I did not think the Flyers would fare this poorly, especially after last year's ECF. Sadly, nobody gives a flying (pun intended) **** about hockey anymore.

They have zero defence. Rookies playing like rookies.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

They have zero defence. Rookies playing like rookies.

Is Timminen (I think Timninen) not back this year?

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Is Timminen (I think Timninen) not back this year?

He is but you have a couple rookies starting on defense. Smith is gone as well.

 

[AE14]

Only if you look at it through Kool Aid colored glasses.

I think we know that is not true. I am no Obama fan, but its funny here, you go against McCain/Palin and you get a label.

The man IS a domestic terrorist. An unrepentant domestic terrorist. Its very relevant if a potential POTUS is keeping this company. Throw in the fact that this man was important in starting Obama's political career and this is even more disturbing.

Again, McCain is involved with the same board, nuff said

You give links to everything else and nothing to back up this accusation?

http://www.akip.org/090308.html

Here you go my friend, he husband confirmed as a member, and she addressed their convention.

Or you could look at it this way....a group who had a presidential candidate on the board of their foundation gave money to the other guy, they must've loved the job Barry did.....

Oh so that makes his relationship with this board ok? Now I see your logic :eyeroll:

 

[Mulletsoldier]

...Smith is gone as well...

Ouch: Smith has never been a skilled defenceman, but he adds grit and leadership on every team he is on.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Biron looks awful as well.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

Oh my, does he ever. How do you think I feel? I chose Kipprusoff in my fantasy pool, and the Flames have the highest GAA in the league!

 

[CryingEmo]

I don't understand the whole "work so hard that you kill yourself" ideaology, and maybe after you kiss ass and brown nose and break your ass, and work shitty dead end jobs, you'll make something of yourself!

Why not work smarter, not harder?


I would consider education to be the way to go, and if the system helped people become educated, instead of free handouts, we'd all be better off, IMO.

 

[RobInKuwait]

I think we know that is not true. I am no Obama fan, but its funny here, you go against McCain/Palin and you get a label.

....Kool-aid....so tasty :wave:

Again, McCain is involved with the same board, nuff said

Um, you said before he got donations Annenberg (sp) not that he was on the board....

http://www.akip.org/090308.html

Here you go my friend, he husband confirmed as a member, and she addressed their convention.

Great, you showed her husband belongs to an organization....now once you show that this organization blew up federal buildings and federal judges' houses they may be on par with the Weather Underground.

Oh so that makes his relationship with this board ok? Now I see your logic :eyeroll:

Still waiting for evidence he was on that board. All you said was that he got donation from Annenberg (sp).

 

[RobInKuwait]

I don't understand the whole "work so hard that you kill yourself" ideaology, and maybe after you kiss ass and brown nose and break your ass, and work shitty dead end jobs, you'll make something of yourself!

Why not work smarter, not harder?


I would consider education to be the way to go, and if the system helped people become educated, instead of free handouts, we'd all be better off, IMO.

You're presupposing that white collar work>blue collar work. I know lots of people who could never be happy in an office job. They want to be turning wrenches, building stuff, "doing something productive".

I think there's just as many people unhappy with their office job because it doesn't fit their personality as there are people unhappy with their physical labor job because it doesn't fit their personality.

edit- How'd we get on this tangent?

 

[DAdams91982]

You're presupposing that white collar work>blue collar work. I know lots of people who could never be happy in an office job. They want to be turning wrenches, building stuff, "doing something productive".

I think there's just as many people unhappy with their office job because it doesn't fit their personality as there are people unhappy with their physical labor job because it doesn't fit their personality.

edit- How'd we get on this tangent?

Agreed. Most of my family is manual labor. They could never do an office job. Plus, they aren't educated, yet they are making a damn fine living. Industrial America was built with blood sweat and tears.

Plus, there is so many way to gain education in America. It isn't my fault someone will just not go to a community college because it isn't prestigious. Hell, if you are low income Pell grants will pretty much cover a CC and then some.

Adams

 

[EasyEJL]

Irony check: This sentence is Elitist, as I am implying I am privy to the 'correct' form of semantics!

:rofl:

it is pretty funny. You'd make a good democrat spokesman (which from me is meant to be an insult)

 

[Mulletsoldier]

it is pretty funny. You'd make a good democrat spokesman (which from me is meant to be an insult)

Haha, well good thing I hold a low opinion of you, or I would be insulted!

:rofl:

 

[Jayhawkk]

/comes in confused
/leaves confused but with a lil more knowledge of Hockey players.

 

[CDB]

So would you consider someone an elitist if they had a propensity for violence when someone disagrees with them.

No, I would consider them to have a serious psychological disorder, like John McCaine, who I personally think is craziers than a shithouse rat.

 

[CDB]

How about defining the actual word we're using?

Main Entry: elit·ism
Pronunciation: \ā-ˈlē-ˌti-zəm, i-, ē-\
Function: noun
Date: 1947
1: leadership or rule by an elite
2: the selectivity of the elite ; especially : snobbery <elitism in choosing new members>
3: consciousness of being or belonging to an elite
— elit·ist \-ˈlē-tist\ noun or adjective

It is a derrogatory word, especially when used with the implication that the person who is elitist doesn't even have a just claim to an actual elite position.

How about some more objective classical definitions of an elite? Consider two independent sources:

1) elite - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Main Entry: elite
Pronunciation: \ā-ˈlēt, i-, ē-\
Function: noun
Etymology: French élite, from Old French eslite, from feminine of eslit, past participle of eslire to choose, from Latin eligere
Date: 1823

1 a singular or plural in construction : the choice part : CREAM <the elite of the entertainment world> b singular or plural in construction : the best of a class <superachievers who dominate the computer elite — Marilyn Chase> c singular or plural in construction : the socially superior part of society <how the elite live — A P World> <how the French-speaking elite…was changing — Economist> d : a group of persons who by virtue of position or education exercise much power or influence <members of the ruling elite> <the intellectual elites of the country> e : a member of such an elite —usually used in plural <the elites …, pursuing their studies in Europe — Robert Wernick>
2 : a typewriter type providing 12 characters to the linear inch
— elite adjective

2) elite - definition of elite by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

e·lite or é·lite
n. pl. elite or e·lites
1.
a. A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status: "In addition to notions of social equality there was much emphasis on the role of elites and of heroes within them" Times Literary Supplement.
b. The best or most skilled members of a group: the football team's elite.
2. A size of type on a typewriter, equal to 12 characters per linear inch.

[French élite, from Old French eslite, from feminine past participle of eslire, to choose, from Latin ligere; see elect.]

e·lite adj.

elite [ill-eet]
Noun
the most powerful, rich, or gifted members of a group or community [French]

Noun 1. elite - a group or class of persons enjoying superior intellectual or social or economic status

elite group
upper class, upper crust - the class occupying the highest position in the social hierarchy
elect, chosen - an exclusive group of people; "one of the elect who have power inside the government"
cream, pick - the best people or things in a group; "the cream of England's young men were killed in the Great War"
clerisy, intelligentsia - an educated and intellectual elite
beau monde, bon ton, high society, smart set, society - the fashionable elite
few - a small elite group; "it was designed for the discriminating few"
aristocracy, nobility - a privileged class holding hereditary titles
technocrat - an expert who is a member of a highly skilled elite group

Adj. 1. elite - selected as the best; "an elect circle of artists"; "elite colleges"
elect
selected - chosen in preference to another

 

[AE14]

....Kool-aid....so tasty :wave:

what flavor is mccain/palin this week? it seems they change weekly just like their messages

Um, you said before he got donations Annenberg (sp) not that he was on the board....

exactly, he got donations and was thus involved with the person who put the board together. hmmm.....

let me put it another way, I presently sit on a few committees at work with board of ed members. B/C we are on the same committee, and if one was a terrorist, does that make me one?

Great, you showed her husband belongs to an organization....now once you show that this organization blew up federal buildings and federal judges' houses they may be on par with the Weather Underground.

just curious, considering Palin is out spouting off about being pro-american, how is she when her husband was part of a group that was secessionist, and she has addressed the convention of that group, and in fact within the last year, sent a video of herslef addressing them and welcoming them. Not too pro american imo. Kinda like saying in 1860 South Carolina was pro american

Still waiting for evidence he was on that board. All you said was that he got donation from Annenberg (sp).

please see above

 

[RobInKuwait]

what flavor is mccain/palin this week? it seems they change weekly just like their messages

Palin is cherry flavored.

exactly, he got donations and was thus involved with the person who put the board together. hmmm.....

let me put it another way, I presently sit on a few committees at work with board of ed members. B/C we are on the same committee, and if one was a terrorist, does that make me one?

It most certainly does! j/k. My understanding of what happened is that Ayers was an influential member of the foundation and pulled strings for Barry to get his position.

just curious, considering Palin is out spouting off about being pro-american, how is she when her husband was part of a group that was secessionist, and she has addressed the convention of that group, and in fact within the last year, sent a video of herslef addressing them and welcoming them. Not too pro american imo. Kinda like saying in 1860 South Carolina was pro american

Well without getting too deep in Civil War history, 3 states did have clauses to secede from Union when they became part of the union. I believe they were New York, Delaware, and South Carolina. Given the 10th amendment stating all states are to have equal rights, that makes South Carolina and any other state seceding perfectly legal under the constitution.

The Civil War fundamentally changed the nature of the United States from state and local governments being the dominant influence in the union, to the federal government. Drawing similarities between South Carolina and Palin's husbands' group is like apples and refrigerators.

This is what they say their goals are:

The Alaskan Independence Party's goal is the vote we were entitled to in 1958, one choice from among the following four alternatives:

1) Remain a Territory.
2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.
3) Accept Commonwealth status.
4) Become a State.

The call for this vote is in furtherance of the dream of the Alaskan Independence Party's founding father, Joe Vogler, which was for Alaskans to achieve independence under a minimal government, fully responsive to the people, promoting a peaceful and lawful means of resolving differences.

If you read about the group they bring up numerous instances of the federal government regulating Alaska's affairs in roles that a state government traditionally does, such as hunting and fishing licenses, land sales, ect. This group's goal is to find solutions to these problems.