Potassium Nitrate

kisaj

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I just picked up a bottle of this on a whim and I am really confused about this stuff. I see that it is used for stump remover, fertilizers, an ingredient in fireworks, and also as a sports supplement- LOL. I am tempted to just throw this out because I can't believe that it can be any good to ingest. Anyone have good data or know of any studies on this for human consumption?
 
kisaj said:
I just picked up a bottle of this on a whim and I am really confused about this stuff. I see that it is used for stump remover, fertilizers, an ingredient in fireworks, and also as a sports supplement- LOL. I am tempted to just throw this out because I can't believe that it can be any good to ingest. Anyone have good data or know of any studies on this for human consumption?
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I can't post links because my post count is too low, but... I would assume that you are aware that nitrates have been well regarded by weight lifters for its vasodilation capabilities. KNO3 is nitrate bound to potassium. Why potassium? More nitrates per molecule than other elements, plus potassium has its own benefits.

Courtesy of Jost Chemical: Potassium Nitrate can be used as a nutritional supplement. Potassium works with sodium to normalize heart rhythms and to regulate the body’s waste balance. It also preserves proper alkalinity of body fluids and assists in reducing high blood pressure.

Courtesy of Oxford Journals (partially covers a study using KNO3 salt): Inorganic nitrate from dietary and endogenous sources is emerging as a substrate for in vivo generation of nitric oxide (NO) and other reactive nitrogen oxides. Dietary amounts of nitrate clearly have robust NO-like effects in humans, including blood pressure reduction, inhibition of platelet aggregation, and vasoprotective activity. In animal models, nitrate protects against ischaemia–reperfusion injuries and several other types of cardiovascular disorders. In addition, nitrate most surprisingly decreases whole body oxygen cost during exercise with preserved or even enhanced maximal performance. Oxidative stress and reduced NO bioavailability are critically linked to development of hypertension and other forms of cardiovascular diseases. Mechanistically, a central target for the effects of nitrate and its reaction products seems to be the mitochondrion and modulation of oxidative stress. All in vivo effects of nitrate are achievable with amounts corresponding to a rich intake of vegetables, which are particularly rich in this anion. A theory is now emerging suggesting nitrate as an active component in vegetables contributing to the beneficial health effects of this food group, including protection against cardiovascular disease and type-2 diabetes.


I can't attest to safety of long-term use; however, according to a member on this forum,
Smitty77 said:
The reason why there's concern over recreational use is conversion to nitrosamine, and high circulating levels can be a cause for concern. Dosing vitamin C with the KNO3 is a method to reduce that conversion/circulating level.
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If you want to read up on it, I-Force Nutrition makes Potassium Nitrate, so you can read our write up. You do need to stack it with an appropriate amount of vitamin c at the time of dosing to prevent issues. Our product contains the exact amount needed so that is not an issue all in a convenient capsule.

Mike
 
Yeah, your brand is the one I bought and I read everything you guys posted. I am going to give this bottle a shot and watch it closely to see if there are any sides that I don't like.
 
kisaj said:
Yeah, your brand is the one I bought and I read everything you guys posted. I am going to give this bottle a shot and watch it closely to see if there are any sides that I don't like.
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PN works great. Have not noticed any side effects and it does everything it claims...
 
Ok, I took two caps about 40 min before hitting the gym this morning and I am trying to contain my excitement right now. I am absolutely floored with the effect this had on me in one single dose. I am training rest-pause pyramid with 15 sec rests, so endurance is key. I do chest on Sunday so as to miss national chest day (Monday) at the gym LOL.

I have been stuck at 305 x 2 BB bench for the last 3 weeks. Today, I put up 305 x 5. Incline BB has been maxed at 245 x 2 and today 245 x 5. Weighted dips was a 45 and 25 plate for 6. Today I did 11. Then I went and swam laps for 30 min.

I mean, I can't put into words how amazed I am at this point. Tomorrow is a big DL day so we'll see how that goes.
 
kisaj said:
Ok, I took two caps about 40 min before hitting the gym this morning and I am trying to contain my excitement right now. I am absolutely floored with the effect this had on me in one single dose. I am training rest-pause pyramid with 15 sec rests, so endurance is key. I do chest on Sunday so as to miss national chest day (Monday) at the gym LOL.

I have been stuck at 305 x 2 BB bench for the last 3 weeks. Today, I put up 305 x 5. Incline BB has been maxed at 245 x 2 and today 245 x 5. Weighted dips was a 45 and 25 plate for 6. Today I did 11. Then I went and swam laps for 30 min.

I mean, I can't put into words how amazed I am at this point. Tomorrow is a big DL day so we'll see how that goes.
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Bamm - automatic best supplement ever - I know the feeling. Cheers...Not sure how you are dosing, but I found it best to take it everyday for about 8-10 days and then 3-4 times a week thereafter. Check into Nutrigaurd brand PN - works just as well as the name brand - just have to take 500mg vitamin C with it...
 
criticalbench said:
If you want to read up on it, I-Force Nutrition makes Potassium Nitrate, so you can read our write up. You do need to stack it with an appropriate amount of vitamin c at the time of dosing to prevent issues. Our product contains the exact amount needed so that is not an issue all in a convenient capsule.

Mike
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Except it doesn't, a significantly higher ascorbic acid dose would be required to completely mediate an increase in nitrosamine formation following nitrate supplementation.

That said, your product is fine ;)
 
bakerwil said:
Not sure how you are dosing, but I found it best to take it everyday for about 8-10 days and then 3-4 times a week thereafter.
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This was my first dose, and with my initial hesitation, I decided to just go with what was recommended on the bottle. It says you can go up to 4, but I always go low and see if it is even needed to take more. I am on TRT and learned long ago that more is not better.

You mention vit C and based on my reading, it appears that this is key. I see they have it added in the brand I bought.
 
You will enjoy the pump from Iforce's Potassium Nitrate KN03 it as with most nitrate products the pump is intense.
 
kisaj said:
Ok, I took two caps about 40 min before hitting the gym this morning and I am trying to contain my excitement right now. I am absolutely floored with the effect this had on me in one single dose. I am training rest-pause pyramid with 15 sec rests, so endurance is key. I do chest on Sunday so as to miss national chest day (Monday) at the gym LOL.

I have been stuck at 305 x 2 BB bench for the last 3 weeks. Today, I put up 305 x 5. Incline BB has been maxed at 245 x 2 and today 245 x 5. Weighted dips was a 45 and 25 plate for 6. Today I did 11. Then I went and swam laps for 30 min.

I mean, I can't put into words how amazed I am at this point. Tomorrow is a big DL day so we'll see how that goes.
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awesome to read that you liked it. while the pumps are what most people notice, they take a back seat to the performance benefits of nitrates.
 
kisaj said:
Ok, I took two caps about 40 min before hitting the gym this morning and I am trying to contain my excitement right now. I am absolutely floored with the effect this had on me in one single dose. I am training rest-pause pyramid with 15 sec rests, so endurance is key. I do chest on Sunday so as to miss national chest day (Monday) at the gym LOL.

I have been stuck at 305 x 2 BB bench for the last 3 weeks. Today, I put up 305 x 5. Incline BB has been maxed at 245 x 2 and today 245 x 5. Weighted dips was a 45 and 25 plate for 6. Today I did 11. Then I went and swam laps for 30 min.

I mean, I can't put into words how amazed I am at this point. Tomorrow is a big DL day so we'll see how that goes.
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I will have to agree. I picked up some last week and I cannot believe the dramatic increase in strength, stamina and pump. I feel stronger and can lift 10-15% heavier on set. Very happy with iForce.
 
feather319 said:
I will have to agree. I picked up some last week and I cannot believe the dramatic increase in strength, stamina and pump. I feel stronger and can lift 10-15% heavier on set. Very happy with iForce.
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thanks for all the great words/reviews in here everyone!

Potassium Nitrate really is awesome stuff. Stack with Hemavol and/or Conquer...and omfg.
 
thedarce said:
awesome to read that you liked it. while the pumps are what most people notice, they take a back seat to the performance benefits of nitrates.
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Yes, I could see that. After swimming laps yesterday I got out and could barely put my arms down and my calves were blown up. I felt like a walking wall of mass. DL's this morning so I will report back later. I am getting excited.

Also, tomorrow (Tues) will be my first day back at muay thai after a 2 month break due to an ankle strain, so this should also be an interesting test.
 
Funny, I went from full apprehension to now thinking this is the top 1-2 performance supplements available in only 2 workouts. Quite honestly, creatine and agmatine could battle out for the spot, and that would be it.

DL morning and since starting rest pause, my deads dropped from 515 to 465 because it is so difficult without a longer rest period. Today I nailed 465 x 5 and decided to move up to 515 and nailed it. So I just hit my old max with only about 30sec rest between sets. The only words I have are- absolutely incredible.

I am now heading into the thread for Top 5 Performance Supplements and editing my post. haha
 
Rob94hawk said:
Does this stuff have any effect on the heart. I have serious sensitivity to caffeine and stims now.
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Absolutely no feel at all, which is what is so cool. You feel like normal and then can move weight like you never have and walk out of the gym feeling fresh. Normally after 10 sets of deads with a max lift, I'd be thinking about a nap right now. I feel like I could go back later.
 
kisaj said:
Absolutely no feel at all, which is what is so cool. You feel like normal and then can move weight like you never have and walk out of the gym feeling fresh. Normally after 10 sets of deads with a max lift, I'd be thinking about a nap right now. I feel like I could go back later.
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the endurance + pumps it gives is insane. truly an amazing supplement. glad to see you're enjoying it so much!
 
So potassium nitrate is GOOD for people who have BP issues or heart issues, and provides benefits in that regard? I know it was mentioned way back when ("nitrates") as a possible option to use in my recovery, but then it was never actually suggested. Then again initially my cardio never suggested carvedilol :D my GP had to put me on that....and that is the one thing I needed the most, or i'd probably have died. so........
 
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southsideguy said:
I remember reading decreased libido when using potassium nitrate? But heck that was a while ago.
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There is no scientific evidence that I have ever seen to support the claim that potassium nitrate reduces libido.

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Potassium nitrate is AKA: saltpeter (old wives tale)

It has done nothing but improve libido and other measures of erectile function and performance.
 
David Dunn said:
Potassium nitrate is AKA: saltpeter (old wives tale)

It has done nothing but improve libido and other measures of erectile function and performance.
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Mr. Dunn,

So long as one keeps dosages relatively low (I use about 900 mg) and supplements with some Vitamin C, I am anaware of any other general cautions as to Potassium Nitrate - do you know oif any?
 
Trust me, I read EVERYTHING I could find on the old wive's tale about it lowering libido and found nothing proving it to be true. I personally feel like it would be the opposite because I have been walking around like I am the damn hammer and the ladies look as good as ever.
 
This sucks balls, I just ordered at NP over the weekend for some recompadrol, met. powder and divanex....could have added some of the iforce version pott nitrate for cheap. Goddamn you people, damn you to hell. (I bet its not available in the mainstream nutrition stores due to the association with bombs and explosives and fertilizer :D). Didn't McVeigh use some of this nitrate stuff to blow the building up in OKC?
 
kisaj said:
Trust me, I read EVERYTHING I could find on the old wive's tale about it lowering libido and found nothing proving it to be true. I personally feel like it would be the opposite because I have been walking around like I am the damn hammer and the ladies look as good as ever.
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lol hammer :p
 
Beau said:
Mr. Dunn,

So long as one keeps dosages relatively low (I use about 900 mg) and supplements with some Vitamin C, I am anaware of any other general cautions as to Potassium Nitrate - do you know oif any?
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Aside from its hypo-tension properties, which I welcome as a heart health prophylactic, I experience a short windedness from time to time when training intensity is high. Likely a result of it's hypotension properties.

kisaj said:
Trust me, I read EVERYTHING I could find on the old wive's tale about it lowering libido and found nothing proving it to be true. I personally feel like it would be the opposite because I have been walking around like I am the damn hammer and the ladies look as good as ever.
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Add in Agmatine and low dose daily cialis and you're a wrecking machine - literally ;)
 
David Dunn said:
Aside from its hypo-tension properties, which I welcome as a heart health prophylactic, I experience a short windedness from time to time when training intensity is high. Likely a result of it's hypotension properties.

Add in Agmatine and low dose daily cialis and you're a wrecking machine - literally ;)
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how many mg each are we talking?
 
Kidding aside - I have read that one should NOT use Potassium Nitrate with something like Viagra.
 
Beau said:
Kidding aside - I have read that one should NOT use Potassium Nitrate with something like Viagra.
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Sounds like something they warn against in the cialis and viagra commercials...."Don't use potassium nitrate with Cialis, since this can cause a sharp decrease in blood pressure and possible death"....OH, only death? Thank you for alerting me to this, I'd rather not know death is possible using your product :D
 
Beau said:
"it may cause a sudden drop ... of your body to the floor..."
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I'm pretty good at combating sudden sharp drops in BP....I was down in the 50's one time in the hospital and I didn't fall unconscious...then again I was lying down in the bed. And at home I'd get sudden drops of BP, get light headed, maybe bounce off a wall :D, but I can't recall falling down unconscious as a result. Only time I fainted was (twice) while injecting on my first cycle.....came out of nowhere too, wasn't anxious at the time (I had calmed down already), kind of a delayed reaction faint.
 
Do not take CIALIS if you:

take medicines called “nitrates” such as isosorbide dinitrate or isosorbide mononitrate which are often prescribed for chest pain as the combination may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure
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May cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure.
May not cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure.

or

May cause a safe drop in blood pressure.
May not cause a safe drop in blood pressure.
 
Sir Dunn, I am stacked with agmatine. I primarily take it for the mental benefit. I may have found my ultimate stack.
 
I'm also finding that the LH stimulation (and all the good that comes from it) from agmatine is real. It has a subtle but distinct impact on libido as well.
 
bakerwil said:
Well iforce definetely did not create potassium nitrate....its Been available for years and is available from great manufacturers like nutriguard for 1/4 the price..of iforce.
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Yes, I'm aware.

VaughnTrue and kisaj were specifically discussing iForce's product, when Rob94hawk asked what they were talking about in reference to a post regarding blood pressure. It wasn't my intention to advocate for any brand.
 
bakerwil said:
Well iforce definetely did not create potassium nitrate....its Been available for years and is available from great manufacturers like nutriguard for 1/4 the price..of iforce.
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Its also been available for years for pennies a gram which is like 1/25 the price of iforce.
 
David Dunn said:
I'm also finding that the LH stimulation (and all the good that comes from it) from agmatine is real. It has a subtle but distinct impact on libido as well.
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Notice the mood effects? People don't realize Agmatine is first and foremost a neuroactive substance. The pump is a secondary benefit
 
Shin said:
How does the bulk supply in the form of fertiliser compare? :)
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LOL....I am sure you can get a 20 lb bag or a 50 lb drum for like 50-100 bucks :D It will last both you and your son, probably his son as well, a lifetime
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Notice the mood effects? People don't realize Agmatine is first and foremost a neuroactive substance. The pump is a secondary benefit
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That was the first thing I noticed and initially attributed to a lowering of blood pressure, which always makes me feel better. I find that it gives a general calmness and better mindset. I really don't get much of a pump from it, but honesty, a pump is near the bottom of the list of things I care about.
 
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