I do like what SNS and CEL doin with all that natty stuff and I am big fan of all natty anabolics, test raisers etc. Even if ... I have tried lot of them (not from sns directly but i mean the same ingredients), spent a lot of money on them, and to be honest nothing came even close to good ol creatine or my fav sarm LGD (which i cycle and have just lil test supress after 6-7 weeks, but few weeks after cycle everything go back to normal levels - done blood tests every time). Im not really into thesis about "non responders" etc.
And thats why im bein lil bit skeptical about that another new substance, defo gamechanger (how many times did we hear that?
) etc. But propably I will try it, cuz im a dreamer
, and i just like all that colourfull pills stuff with nice etiquettes and nasty names on it
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I really don't understand the negativity in your posts or why you try to keep it going.
I get being skeptical - I'm always skeptical. I research the hell out of anything that we use in products. That's part of what takes so long sometimes when people are asking us to put out this or that product, is that I research the hell out of everything first and don't just throw products out because they could be profitable.
There's nothing wrong with being skeptical - but there is absolutely something wrong with being negative and saying false things.
You won't find one instance where I overhype anything - if anything, I under-hype a lot of things and don't make a lot of the same marketing type claims that other companies do about the same or similar ingredients.
You can't find one place that we called it a 'gamechanger' - but you can find places where I stated facts - not opinions, not theories, but facts. Like the fact that I find the product very exciting because it helps with muscle health, muscle retention, and muscle growth through familiar pathways but what excites me the most is that helps those things through new and novel pathways that other supplements don't work through, so I find that very exciting.
You're acting like we made some elaborate claims about PeptiStrong, but I haven't said one single thing about it that wasn't supported by clinical studies. And not just some random clinical study that someone found and pulled off the internet, but clinical studies that were extremely well designed and extremely well vetted.
You act like someone said this product is going to put 20 lbs. of muscle on you in a month or something ridiculous (I'll leave claims like that to some of the other companies that say ridiculous stuff like that). Part of the beauty of Pepti-Plex is that it will help build lean muscle, strength, and improve recovery and it should make for very nice consistent gains, which is something extremely important and significant to the average lifter, and especially to natural ones. Another major aspect of it is the impact on helping with injuries and also improving muscle health.
Your comment on people responding differently to different things being a "thesis":
People responding differently to different things is not a thesis, its a fact. People respond differently to drugs, medications, and yes, supplements.
Just like people respond differently to different diets and training styles.
I can tell you first hand that there are some ingredients that seem to work great for a lot of other people that do absolutely nothing for me - but I don't tell the people that they do work well for that the ingredients don't work; I realize that they simply may not work as well for me.
A great example is one that you just mentioned yourself - you said that LGD is your favorite SARM, but many, many people post about how its useless, garbage, etc. It may be for them, but I have no reason to doubt that it works well for you if you say it does because it may work well for you, but not them.
Your comment - I have tried lot of them (not from sns directly but i mean the same ingredients):
I'm sorry, I don't mean this rudely but its bs to say something negative towards our products/ingredients because you used a brand that has something in there that they claim to be the same thing that we use in products.
I talk all the time about the importance of quality in this industry and how a lot of brands don't do any type of quality testing at all. They don't test their raw material quality, don't test their finished products to make sure their contract manufacturer is putting the exact ingredients and the correct dosages in there, nor do they test for microbial and heavy metals testing.
You don't have to believe me on that - it's a known problem. One that I greatly commend NOW Foods for bringing to light with a lot of their recent testing on other brands - where they have tested products from many brands and posted the results publicly that showed that some brands didn't even contain the ingredients that the labels stated at all, and many that did contain the ingredients were way off in terms of dosing.
So just like you can't judge a NOW Foods product based off comparing it to one that didn't meet label claims, you can't compare trying an ingredient by another company to one of ours. Especially if its some obscure brand.
This doesn't apply to Glaxon bc I absolutely believe they meet label claims - but fact remains too that despite having PeptiStrong as a common ingredient, their product is a completely different formula than ours and a completely different price range.
Oh, and another great example - if you don't believe that ingredient quality and meeting label claims matters, there have been people post bloodwork here based on how much their liver values improved after switching to Competitive Edge Labs TUDCA from other brands.
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I'm going to finish my reply to you by circling back to where you said something about it being marketed as a gamechanger and me pointing out above that you won't find anywhere that I've said that.
Ironically, I do actually consider it a game changer but had never posted that, and here are some of the reasons why:
- It's impact on muscle health.
- It's ability help aid in injury recovery.
- I think it will help many, many other products and ingredients work better.
- It's ability to help hold onto strength and muscle when life happens and we miss workouts (vacation, work schedule, etc).
- It's ability to help aging individuals hold onto muscle and strength as they age.
- The methods of action of PeptiStrong + VasoFlo + Apigenin + Senactiv make it an incredible multi-faceted anti-aging & longevity product.
For me personally, I think that the product is something truly special for fitness enthusiasts and people that workout, but what really means a lot to me is Pepti-Plex's potential benefits to help aging individuals hold onto muscle and strength longer, so that in itself is a game changer to me - because to me, this company is about helping people, and if this product is one that can help someone hold onto muscle or strength longer to improve their quality of life, do things they enjoy, improve their self esteem, pick up and hold or play with their grandkids, etc. - that's a win for me.
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