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Nutra's Phenibut

luclyluciano said:
So, I am a little confused. Which brands should I order which works and which should I stay away from?
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before a person takes any substance in they need to know how it works .( cause and effect) which chemicals it interacts with and what to expect. always do research before taking something that effects neurotransmitters
 
h22t88 said:
Yeah, GBL is still available. It's a direct precursor to GBH and is much more potent and dangerous. People think it's the same as GHB and overdose all the time. It's sold as a floor/wheel cleaner on many sites. That's the only product they sell on the site too and claim it's 99.97% pure. Pretty obvious. It is longer lasting than GBH. Google it and see what you find. Just like research chems, you can still find a lot of the banned stuff out there if you know where to look. You can buy it buy the gallon or larger...good Lord. I know a lot of people use it. I don't believe it's illegal to posess. Pretty damn risky if you ask me. Shot of paint stripper anyone? It was used in many OTC supps until the FDA caught on (Renewtrient, Revivarant or Revivarant G, Blue Nitro or Blue Nitro Vitality, GH Revitalizer, Gamma G, and Remforce).
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GBL is absolutely illegal to possess and consume in the United States. Most of those sites that you refer to are based overseas and importing that stuff could lead to some serious legal ramifications.

The problem with the stuff is not that its used as a cleaning agent (apparently its a damn good one), its the fact that it is pretty easy to overdose...as you stated. Remember, ethanol (very similar to GHB in effects) is often sold as a hand sanitizer...because the stuff kills almost everything. In the proper dosage though, its safe to consume.
 
Gotcha on the legal part. I must have been reading some outdated stuff. It is a great cleaner but I wouldn't recommend GBL for a good colon cleanse.
 
Alright so im deffinately interested in phenibut but the site where im buying something which is the cheapest only has Primaforce Phenibut powder is this stuff still worth buying? Im very interested in Phenibut
 
Was going to make a thread but ill post in here. I've got some Phenibut from March of this year, started dosing 1.4g about 2 hours ago, dosed another 1.4 just now. No effects as of yet.
 
Wait two hours between each dose and keep taking it until you feel it. Keep track of how much you took total and start with a little less than that much the next time all at once. You're using NP I'm assuming?
 
Right on. Give us an update when you get there. If you're not feeling it by 6g there is something wrong.
 
Placed my order of Phenibut XT today will get it probally tuesday and i'll keep you posted on if it works for me probally try it out on wednesday. High hopes for it : P
 
I think I am going to hold out on this until a new source is found.

1000 mgs of the old stuff used to work like a charm.

I may change my mind but with a supplement budget I have I have to spend wisely and it reasons this stuff is cut.

Custom keep us updated on the euro phenibut deal please.
 
We've arranged for samples to be sent in the next week or so, so we'll have to play around with these a bit and see if they do any better than the old stuff.
 
To update, it works but at high doses. I don't know if i have a ''tolerance'' or what...i don't take anything but multi vitamins.
I had really good sleep last night, apparently my 2 year old was cranky and kept my wife up...i slept through it like a log! At 5.4g it hit me.
 
custom said:
We've arranged for samples to be sent in the next week or so, so we'll have to play around with these a bit and see if they do any better than the old stuff.
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Thanks for taking action on this. If you can get it straightened out, I would like to buy more in bulk (Kilo). I really liked the older product.
 
custom said:
We've arranged for samples to be sent in the next week or so, so we'll have to play around with these a bit and see if they do any better than the old stuff.
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any way I can sample some of the new phenibut power with my big order I am putting in soon?

where did you get it? what company makes it if you do not mind?
 
Pumped to try out my Phenibut XT tommorow what are its effects with drinking i heard there some but any added benifits im excited to try it.
 
testosteronet said:
Have you received the samples? And if so, what is the verdict?
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We did get some in this week, yes, albeit a small amount.

We have a couple of employees who are familiar with Phenibut trying it out. I'm not sure a final consensus is in, but first thoughts are that this is indeed better stuff.
 
I tried the sample out Wednesday night and I must say I was VERY impressed! I would not call myself a "phenibut junkie" or anything, but I have had a lot of experience with Phenibut. I've tried SNS', Primaforce's, NutraPlanet's newer batches, and a couple others. I would vouch that this is some of the best I've ever tried (even compared to the older version)!

I experienced a very good mental state and a great sense of well-being, unlike the newer Phenibut that is currently saturating the market. I was actually very stressed out on Wednesday, and this batch was able to knock it all out of me within about 30 minutes. I was so relaxed that I actually feel asleep on my couch watching Terminator, at around 9:00pm (I usually always go to bed around 12:00am).

The consistency is just like the original Phenibut; it is much more granule like and is much more sparkly, unlike the newer Phenibut, which looks more like flour or Waxy Maize Starch.

All in all, I would say this new batch is top-notch and about as good as you can get! I was VERY happy, for every brand I've tried in the last few months has always been disappointing.

We will be sure to keep everyone updated on an ETA for this amazing batch, which should be arriving in stock soon! Stay on the lookout, for I am sure we will be swarmed with orders, as soon as we update the stock.
 
Yes, if what you said is true it'd be a great christmas (new year's) gift! I just took some Phenibut capsules by Primaforce and ended up with a horrible headache. Also, it made me wired not relaxed at all - what's up with that???
 
you have my guarantee. I was going to order today as I have been holding out ordering until I heard this.

any chance it can be speed up? or maybe you can do a special favor for myself?
 
We're trying to get it shipped as fast as we can. On some things like this, we eally have no control over how quickly we can get a new product in. If we submit our order on Monday, which I will, it typically takes about 10 business days for things to get to us if everything goes smoothly with customs and FDA.

Since this is being made ecspecially for us, I am hoping they can get it shipped out within a day or two of us ordring.
 
Hopefully I'm near a computer when this comes in stock. This is very exciting and I'd hate to miss out on this batch.
 
Please someone let us know when the new Phenibut comes in stock. Another 10% of all black series deal wouldn't be bad either :veryhappy:
 
testosteronet said:
I see that the 50 and 500 gram phenibut is out of stock, but the kilo is in stock, will this new phenibut replace what was in the 50 and 500 gram containerss?
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I think we have 2 kilos of the old stuff and then when the new batch gets here it will replace all sizes.
 
Has the new Phenibut come in yet? I see that the 50 grams is back in stock at a higher price which makes me wondering if it's the new - better version.
 
Ive been using the Phenibut XT lately and although i havent tried the older stuff so i really have no basis for comparison. It deffinately makes me feel relaxed less stressed out a little more socially open im not too nervous to begin with but its pretty good stuff IMHO.
 
I've always found that I got much better kick and a smoother well being when taking Phenibut with carbs, wierd but it worked for me.
 
If this turns out to be the real deal (and I am very optimistic that it will), the teeming masses will be beating a pathway to your door as soon as word spreads that you have it. Are you going to be able to keep up with the demand? Can your supplier provide enough to fulfill orders consistently?

Also, is there even a remote possibility that this stuff will get here by Christmas? This is going to be about the suckiest holiday season ever for me. I’m in the middle of filing for Chapter 7, my wife is 1000 miles away taking care of her ailing father, and my mother is slowly dying in a skilled nursing facility. The only person I’ll be spending Christmas with is Jose Cuervo. Christ, even my dog died last summer—I’m officially a pathetic sack of ****. And you thought Tiger Woods had problems. The only thing preventing me from going to my doctor and asking him to refill my Xanax prescription is the fact that he charges $106 for an office visit and my entire paycheck is going to my lawyer. I’d sure like to drown my sorrows in something that wallops the GABAnergic nervous system, particularly on Christmas Eve. Can I prepay now and have it shipped as soon as it arrives?
 
Booee said:
If this turns out to be the real deal (and I am very optimistic that it will), the teeming masses will be beating a pathway to your door as soon as word spreads that you have it. Are you going to be able to keep up with the demand? Can your supplier provide enough to fulfill orders consistently?

Also, is there even a remote possibility that this stuff will get here by Christmas? This is going to be about the suckiest holiday season ever for me. I’m in the middle of filing for Chapter 7, my wife is 1000 miles away taking care of her ailing father, and my mother is slowly dying in a skilled nursing facility. The only person I’ll be spending Christmas with is Jose Cuervo. Christ, even my dog died last summer—I’m officially a pathetic sack of ****. And you thought Tiger Woods had problems. The only thing preventing me from going to my doctor and asking him to refill my Xanax prescription is the fact that he charges $106 for an office visit and my entire paycheck is going to my lawyer. I’d sure like to drown my sorrows in something that wallops the GABAnergic nervous system, particularly on Christmas Eve. Can I prepay now and have it shipped as soon as it arrives?
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I would not recommend this or any drugs to handle your situations. Learn to handle them yourself you can do it. I look at this as a nice sleep aid or maybe some fun nothing to be solving your challenges you need to solve them on your own not with neurotransmitter changers. goodluck
 
Actually, I agree. My remark about Jose was intended as wistful humor. I stopped using alcohol as self-medication 20 years ago. I can’t remember the last time I even consumed alcohol, much less the last time I drank to the point of inebriation. However, I see no harm in substituting phenibut for Xanax to self-treat mild, transient anxiety which will only last a day or two. I’ll bounce back just fine on the 26th and just go about my business like nothing were wrong. It’s really no different than using it to self-treat occasional insomnia. What would be pathological abuse is to use phenibut every day in ever-escalating doses to treat a chronic mental disorder such as depression, anxiety, PTSD, chronic insomnia, etc. That would be both stupid and fruitless.
 
please stop posting your situations on this thread. your problems have nothing to do with this thread if you want some recommendations that i think can help you pm me and Ill be happy to give you some of the stuff that has helped me handle my situations.
 
You freely advocate using a potentially addictive psychoactive substance recreationally (second sentence of post # 98), yet I’m somehow out of line? This substance was originally developed to treat anxiety states. I seriously doubt that the Russians were pursuing the development of a party drug, fun-lovin’ comrades though they may be. You also seem to be suggesting that I have somehow derailed or hijacked this thread. Yet the thread started out discussing the potency of NP’s product and rapidly shifted to a discussion of phenibut’s psychoactive properties. Using it to self-treat anxiety has already been discussed, including substituting it for traditional benzodiazapines (posts 15 and 17). Moreover, why on earth would I consult a clinical psychologist to deal with a mild melancholy state which will last 48 hours and then be gone? That would be far more expensive than just going to see my doctor and having my Xanax prescription refilled, which he would gladly do. I do appreciate the offer of advice on how to deal with the holiday blues, but the situation isn’t really that critical. If it were, I would hardly be making fun of myself through black humor involving dead dogs and analogizing myself to Tiger Woods. Again, thanks for the gesture, but I really don’t need it. All I want for Christmas is a teaspoon of phenibut and my two front teeth.
 
Booee said:
You freely advocate using a potentially addictive psychoactive substance recreationally (second sentence of post # 98), yet I’m somehow out of line? This substance was originally developed to treat anxiety states. I seriously doubt that the Russians were pursuing the development of a party drug, fun-lovin’ comrades though they may be. You also seem to be suggesting that I have somehow derailed or hijacked this thread. Yet the thread started out discussing the potency of NP’s product and rapidly shifted to a discussion of phenibut’s psychoactive properties. Using it to self-treat anxiety has already been discussed, including substituting it for traditional benzodiazapines (posts 15 and 17). Moreover, why on earth would I consult a clinical psychologist to deal with a mild melancholy state which will last 48 hours and then be gone? That would be far more expensive than just going to see my doctor and having my Xanax prescription refilled, which he would gladly do. I do appreciate the offer of advice on how to deal with the holiday blues, but the situation isn’t really that critical. If it were, I would hardly be making fun of myself through black humor involving dead dogs and analogizing myself to Tiger Woods. Again, thanks for the gesture, but I really don’t need it. All I want for Christmas is a teaspoon of phenibut and my two front teeth.
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You are right I misunderstood you and thought you had serious problems mentioned all those things as now I see your problems are mild.
 
Now, since that is over, we are back to the focus on NP Phenibut :woohoo:
 
So if we order when this stuff comes in, how will we know we're getting the "new" phenibut and not the old stuff that's sitting around right now..
 
testosteronet said:
Not necesarily, nutra's right now is from china I believe...
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yes the current batch is from china where everyone has been reporting it is not working no way nearly as good as the old stuff. the new batch if we get it Custom said Europe.

Nutra do you have any idea where the old stuff was from?

Phenibut originally points back to Russia. I would not be surprised if a german or someone trained by german chemist were the ones that "invented" it.
 
The old stuff we, and everyone else had, was from China.

As others have said, Phenibut origionated in Russia, but since then production has literally all but ended. For the life of me, I could not find a producer in either Russia or Eastern Europe.

Therefore, our new stuff is also Chinese made.

However, this batch was specifically synthesized just for us in light of the research showing R-Phenibut to be at least 2 times more potent than S-Phenibut.

Trust me, it was not easy finding a facility that was willing to undertake this process. Most are happy selling material that tests out perfectly fine, but may not have good customer feedback. This new facility saw the value of taking the extra time and money needed upfront to make an exceptional product that will pay off 10-fold over the next year or so.

We will be getting the lab work documenting and verifying that we do indeed have the real deal.

I'm hoping the shipment will be cleared through customs (fairly large order in order to get them agree to synthesize it) and to our warehouse before Christmas.
 
custom said:
The old stuff we, and everyone else had, was from China.

As others have said, Phenibut origionated in Russia, but since then production has literally all but ended. For the life of me, I could not find a producer in either Russia or Eastern Europe.

Therefore, our new stuff is also Chinese made.

However, this batch was specifically synthesized just for us in light of the research showing R-Phenibut to be at least 2 times more potent than S-Phenibut.

Trust me, it was not easy finding a facility that was willing to undertake this process. Most are happy selling material that tests out perfectly fine, but may not have good customer feedback. This new facility saw the value of taking the extra time and money needed upfront to make an exceptional product that will pay off 10-fold over the next year or so.

We will be getting the lab work documenting and verifying that we do indeed have the real deal.

I'm hoping the shipment will be cleared through customs (fairly large order in order to get them agree to synthesize it) and to our warehouse before Christmas.
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That still doesn't answer my question....Will you be throwing out the old stuff? I'm by no means a phenibut junkie, therefore, I'd have no idea if it's the new, better stuff or not. However, if I'm going to place an order, I would like it to be the new stuff.
 
I went ahead and put in my Christmas order and asked for a sample of the new stuff. if I get it ill report back. if not maybe another time.

to the guys who do get this batch if it arrives please keep us updated on the quality.
 
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