ntbm transaderm-1st impression

[mattrag]

Yeh a lot of people get carried away talking about DHEA and believe you are going to end up with sky high estrogen levels and a pair of man boobies :boobies:

Things have just gotten blown out of proportion sometimes. The results from users from both Transaderm and the years of Dermacrine use speaks for itself. This stuff works!!

Yup mood elevation and my training recover is getting a bit better. Though I am on a slight calorie surplus.
Good stuff indeed. Mild short cycle doesn't really need a PCT imo, but I dont take risks lol.
Also, with the new regulations on "research chems" I can see milder transaderm cycles being really benefical for someone just looking for that extra boost in performance while staying in somewhat "controllable" territory.

 

[andrew732]

Yeah maybe I've already read this....why is DHEA supplementation important for those on HRT/TRT?

DHEA plays a huge role in brain function, maintenance of CNS, immune system, blood glucose levels and so on.

 

[RickRock13]

DHEA plays a huge role in brain function, maintenance of CNS, immune system, blood glucose levels and so on.

Exactly!

 

[thebigt]

Yeah maybe I've already read this....why is DHEA supplementation important for those on HRT/TRT?

from everything i have read, when you are shutdown your body not only produces less test, it also produces less dhea!!! when you go on trt your test levels go up but dhea production does not!!!!!!

 

[DreamWeaver]

from everything i have read, when you are shutdown your body not only produces less test, it also produces less dhea!!! when you go on trt your test levels go up but dhea production does not!!!!!!

You'd think the TRT docs would be on to this and the estrogen conversion ...

 

[RickRock13]

from everything i have read, when you are shutdown your body not only produces less test, it also produces less dhea!!! when you go on trt your test levels go up but dhea production does not!!!!!!

That is good to know. I'm sure a lot of people on TRT do not realize that.

 

[TheDarkHalf]

Yeah that's good to know.....I occasionally have people come into my supplement store that are on TRT...now I can recommend they get on DHEA

 

[andrew732]

^^^ FOR SURE, but make sure they are also using an AI bro

 

[thebigt]

You'd think the TRT docs would be on to this and the estrogen conversion ...

my doc is who recommended the dhea to me....i've been on oral dhea for awhile now, but the boost i get from the transaderm is 100xbetter than oral dhea!!! the combination of transaderm/formastanzol is ideal, imo. only problem i was having is before i cut back the dose i was becoming obsessed with thinking about and wanting sex constantly-normally you would think this is a good thing, but it was really interferring with my life. also my aggression was getting the best of me, usually i am a good natured guy, but i was taking things way to personally, and it was beginning to effect my personality....since cutting back on dosage, i feel like i am once again in control of things-this is trully a potent combination for someone on trt.

 

[thebigt]

another great place for applying transaderm is directly on adams apple and around throat area!!!

 

[andrew732]

yup, I always put dermals there because of the permeable skin located on that area

 

[RickRock13]

another great place for applying transaderm is directly on adams apple and around throat area!!!

Never thought of that, but I bet that would be a pretty good area for absorption

 

[TheDarkHalf]

Never thought of that, but I bet that would be a pretty good area for absorption

Never thought of that either!

 

[bla55]

Never thought of that, but I bet that would be a pretty good area for absorption

Care to elaborate why?

Also, what about the tight skin reported with the use? Wouldn't that be a problem? How would you compare that to the abs?

 

[RickRock13]

Care to elaborate why?

Also, what about the tight skin reported with the use? Wouldn't that be a problem? How would you compare that to the abs?

Tight and thin skin area with blood vessels close to the surface for better absorption


I wouldn't put it on the ABS without an AI. Higher estrogen conversion in that area.

 

[DreamWeaver]

The Trenazone instructions mention the colar bone and neck...

 

[andrew732]

The Trenazone instructions mention the colar bone and neck...

compounds that need conversions, convert well within the shoulder/neck/back region, I remember a friend of mine who is a chemist doing an experiment a while back. He used 1-T dermal and saw the most conversion within those areas due the desired hormones.

 

[thebigt]

Care to elaborate why?

Also, what about the tight skin reported with the use? Wouldn't that be a problem? How would you compare that to the abs?

the throat and adams apple region are in same area as the pituitary gland, applying to that area just makes sense since it is a secondary testosterone producer.

 

[DreamWeaver]

All good info, I will be doing Epi/Transaderm/Trenazone in the new year...gonna get nasty...!! heh heh

 

[RickRock13]

the throat and adams apple region are in same area as the pituitary gland, applying to that area just makes sense since it is a secondary testosterone producer.

Didn't think of it that way, but that also makes a lot of sense. Your log here is full of info BigT

 

[thebigt]

Didn't think of it that way, but that also makes a lot of sense. Your log here is full of info BigT

thanks, rr-transdermals have been my thing since 1st time i tried e-form way back when!!!! look at neo's formestane thread in article section-it's an old thtread but damn it covers just about every question you could think of regarding transdermals-it really should be a sticky. a really interesting thing that dr.d brought up was to add a small amount of rogaine or generic minoxidil to topical solutions for a huge boost in absorption!!!!

 

[RickRock13]

thanks, rr-transdermals have been my thing since 1st time i tried e-form way back when!!!! look at neo's formestane thread in article section-it's an old thtread but damn it covers just about every question you could think of regarding transdermals-it really should be a sticky. a really interesting thing that dr.d brought up was to add a small amount of rogaine or generic minoxidil to topical solutions for a huge boost in absorption!!!!

Yeh that is a very good idea, and the carrier for Transaderm and Forma both allow you to add quite a bit into them if you want, so that would work well!!

 

[thebigt]

Yeh that is a very good idea, and the carrier for Transaderm and Forma both allow you to add quite a bit into them if you want, so that would work well!!

if nate ever finds time to release the blanks [carrier only], i have some great ideas i want to try out!!!!

pretty much more of the same, strength has been going up [haven't really been inreasing weight by a lot, but i have been adding more reps-i feel like i could easily add 5-10lbs to most lifts and still be in the 3-5 rep range. endurance and energy have been very good-haven't been nearly as tired at end of shift and feel like i have plenty left in the tank for my after work workouts-most days anyways! libido is still very high, but i have learned that if i just use an extra pump or 2 when i know getting sex is a sure thing it is much more manageable....even though not long after finishing i still want more-my wife just isn't going to go for it.....

 

[DreamWeaver]

if nate ever finds time to release the blanks [carrier only], i have some great ideas i want to try out!!!!

pretty much more of the same, strength has been going up [haven't really been inreasing weight by a lot, but i have been adding more reps-i feel like i could easily add 5-10lbs to most lifts and still be in the 3-5 rep range. endurance and energy have been very good-haven't been nearly as tired at end of shift and feel like i have plenty left in the tank for my after work workouts-most days anyways! libido is still very high, but i have learned that if i just use an extra pump or 2 when i know getting sex is a sure thing it is much more manageable....even though not long after finishing i still want more-my wife just isn't going to go for it.....

Yah such is the life of an older married man with a high libido...

 

[thebigt]

Yah such is the life of an older married man with a high libido...

lol-exactly....my wife tells me that her girlfriends tell her that they only have sex once a week, if even that......

 

[RickRock13]

lol-exactly....my wife tells me that her girlfriends tell her that they only have sex once a week, if even that......

I'm actually part of that club right now unfortunately, but that's not because of her. I have a 6 month old to thank for that

 

[thebigt]

I'm actually part of that club right now unfortunately, but that's not because of her. I have a 6 month old to thank for that

i pity the fool....just kidding-props for making that sacrifice...family 1st!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DreamWeaver]

lol-exactly....my wife tells me that her girlfriends tell her that they only have sex once a week, if even that......

Yah I know, I hear things too... I would like to help them out but my wife would kill me while I slept...

 

[thebigt]

Yah I know, I hear things too... I would like to help them out but my wife would kill me while I slept...

hahaha-the name bobbit comes to mind, lol.


at the sake of repeating myself, damn i am really enjoying this combo....i recommend that everyone give transaderm/formastanzol a try!!!

 

[RickRock13]

hahaha-the name bobbit comes to mind, lol.


at the sake of repeating myself, damn i am really enjoying this combo....i recommend that everyone give transaderm/formastanzol a try!!!

hahaha@ the bobbitt reference...

I am very excited to try this combination out, though I'm sure my wife isnt...oke:

 

[thebigt]

just ordered some bridge!!!

 

[Young Gotti]

just ordered some bridge!!!

i'm sure you'll love it, i plan on going into pct soon and then straight into bridge....should be fun

 

[thebigt]

i'm sure you'll love it, i plan on going into pct soon and then straight into bridge....should be fun

i've never tried bridge before, but ingredients look very nice!

 

[Young Gotti]

i've never tried bridge before, but ingredients look very nice!

it's a nice product, i've used it once before and felt great on it, i wish i had more so i could run back to back bottles, but coming off pct with two months of bridge....may be a little overkill

 

[DreamWeaver]

it's a nice product, i've used it once before and felt great on it, i wish i had more so i could run back to back bottles, but coming off pct with two months of bridge....may be a little overkill

Are you going to log the Bridge...

 

[bla55]

So, how has transaderm been affecting your body comp? Interested on feedback on that part.

 

[thebigt]

So, how has transaderm been affecting your body comp? Interested on feedback on that part.

transaderm solo i gained 4 lbs before adding formastanzol....muscle fullness was very apparent, particularly in shoulders and lats-stomach area if anything seemd more defined. since adding forma i lost those 4lbs and really leaned out, now i have gained back 2lbs and muscle fullness is back....all this was with no change in diet. i really think you could adjust diet to fit your goals with transaderm, but if you run it solo it would probably be best if you were looking to add some lbs. if using transaderm on a cut i seriously recommend using an ai-formastanzol seems to work very well with transaderm.



btw-i have only added 5 pounds to my lifts, but i have added considerably more reps-i honestly believe if i were just going for strength that i could easily add more weight. at this point my goal is overall fitness and conditioning, and i am very pleased with my results so far!!!

 

[bluerocket]

My forma should be delivered tomorrow ... will add it to my transaderm ..... can't wait and thanks BigT for posting information on this combo ....

 

[thebigt]

My forma should be delivered tomorrow ... will add it to my transaderm ..... can't wait and thanks BigT for posting information on this combo ....

this is truely a great combo-ENJOY.

 

[RickRock13]

transaderm solo i gained 4 lbs before adding formastanzol....muscle fullness was very apparent, particularly in shoulders and lats-stomach area if anything seemd more defined. since adding forma i lost those 4lbs and really leaned out, now i have gained back 2lbs and muscle fullness is back....all this was with no change in diet. i really think you could adjust diet to fit your goals with transaderm, but if you run it solo it would probably be best if you were looking to add some lbs. if using transaderm on a cut i seriously recommend using an ai-formastanzol seems to work very well with transaderm.

btw-i have only added 5 pounds to my lifts, but i have added considerably more reps-i honestly believe if i were just going for strength that i could easily add more weight. at this point my goal is overall fitness and conditioning, and i am very pleased with my results so far!!!

That sounds like great results in composition to me

 

[thebigt]

That sounds like great results in composition to me

me too, lol. i am very happy with how this is going!!!can't wait to add bridge into the rotation!!!

 

[thebigt]

i did weighted stairclimbing this morning, endurance was way up. i made 5 trips up and down 21 flights of stairs wearing 5lb ankle weights on each ankle. usually i am satisfied with 4 trips!!!!


on a bad note, looks like tomorrow will be my last day of formastanzol-i won a bottle of i-force rev-v2 so will be subbing it for the forma. good news is i have have plenty of transaderm left-this stuff lasts forever, lol.

 

[RickRock13]

i did weighted stairclimbing this morning, endurance was way up. i made 5 trips up and down 21 flights of stairs wearing 5lb ankle weights on each ankle. usually i am satisfied with 4 trips!!!!


on a bad note, looks like tomorrow will be my last day of formastanzol-i won a bottle of i-force rev-v2 so will be subbing it for the forma. good news is i have have plenty of transaderm left-this stuff lasts forever, lol.

Awesome work on the stairs!! thats some serious cal burning

 

[thebigt]

Awesome work on the stairs!! thats some serious cal burning

not only cal burning....weighted stairclimbing will add mass and definition to legs, it's like a 2fer, lol. well actually a 4fer since it improves endurance and cardio output.

 

[DreamWeaver]

me too, lol. i am very happy with how this is going!!!can't wait to add bridge into the rotation!!!

Yah looking forward to that too...

 

[TheDarkHalf]

I love the stairmill.....don't get to use it enough....we only have 4 at our gym and they are always in use

 

[RickRock13]

not only cal burning....weighted stairclimbing will add mass and definition to legs, it's like a 2fer, lol. well actually a 4fer since it improves endurance and cardio output.

Yeh I would do stairs more often if I didn't have to do them all day long at work. I don't know how many stairs I go up and down every day, but its a lot

 

[thebigt]

started bridge yesterday at 6 caps-i know this is double dose, just wanted to get it in my system. did 2 caps of bridge today along with the transaderm, did a workout of mostly arms and chest in my basement then 30 minutes on treadmill. tomorrow i will just do 3 caps bridge spreadout thru the day. i really miss the formastanzol, i hope the boost i get from bridge comes close to making up for it!!!

 

[DreamWeaver]

started bridge yesterday at 6 caps-i know this is double dose, just wanted to get it in my system. did 2 caps of bridge today along with the transaderm, did a workout of mostly arms and chest in my basement then 30 minutes on treadmill. tomorrow i will just do 3 caps bridge spreadout thru the day. i really miss the formastanzol, i hope the boost i get from bridge comes close to making up for it!!!

Yah this is a good test for the bridge though... now you can tell what difference it makes...

 

[RickRock13]

started bridge yesterday at 6 caps-i know this is double dose, just wanted to get it in my system. did 2 caps of bridge today along with the transaderm, did a workout of mostly arms and chest in my basement then 30 minutes on treadmill. tomorrow i will just do 3 caps bridge spreadout thru the day. i really miss the formastanzol, i hope the boost i get from bridge comes close to making up for it!!!

I'm very interested in what you think of Bridge. I think you'll be pleased :sgrin: