Need a new pre workout (RIP CRAZE)

liftallday123

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So as most of us know Driven Sports craze is now officially discontinued everywhere. I've use craze for 2 years straight and it never failed me once. I love the energy/focus from it. Feels like aderall to me. Anyway I'm in need of a new preworkout and need you guys opinions on whats good. I'm looking for a preworkout with the best focus and energy. Is here any preworkout with energy and focus similar to craze ???
 
Gameday. Our dendrobium is lab-tested to be free of illegal / spiked / otherwise nasty stuff. Safe and compliant!
 
But is your dendrobium lab-tested to contain useful / effective / otherwise beneficial stuff?

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OP - Take a look at Focus XT and stack it with some of our bulk products such as agmatine and COP
 
I am so sick of these threads.
There is a product reviews section. Read up and make an educated decision.
Research the latest and greatest preworkout ingredients.

The secret isn't in the name or the brand. It's in the science.

I like something with agmatine, citruline, nitrates, or GMS.
 
I'm just looking for energy / focus. Idc about pump. I have UG stuff for that. Ive gone by reviews and the science before and have tried them and they never did the job in terms of energy. Craze seemed to be king in that catagory. My question was opinions on what supplement is closest to craze so I can get an idea.
 
Why dont you give me an educated answer instead of bitching in my thread FL3X :) .I never go by brand name. I always go by ingredient profile and reviews. I just wanted to see if anyone experienced a pre workout similar to craze.
 
I have doubts that dendrobium can actually work as a stimulant in humans.
Maybe in rats but there is a general lack of studies on humans in that aspect.
If it contains dendrobium and gives you energy, my guess is it is spiked with other legal stimulants.

I've experimented with some different dendro preworkouts and haven't noticed any increased energy that a pre without it would give me.

Alphamine has treated me pretty well for energy.

And sorry OP I wasn't trying to scold you my friend. Just trying to help :)
 
stimul8 cracks me out like craze did
 
I know all is good bud :). I've tried products with dendronium and they honestly didn't work. I know craze was no doubt spiked with something. On a empty stomach it totally kills my apatite and the mental focus is just insane. I made this thread hoping to find a a different product that could be possibly spiked and work similar to craze lol.
 
liftallday123 said:
I know all is good bud :). I've tried products with dendronium and they honestly didn't work. I know craze was no doubt spiked with something. On a empty stomach it totally kills my apatite and the mental focus is just insane. I made this thread hoping to find a a different product that could be possibly spiked and work similar to craze lol.
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I tried Detonate by Gaspari and felt pretty similar to the OG Craze.
 
De__eB said:
But is your dendrobium lab-tested to contain useful / effective / otherwise beneficial stuff?

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OP - Take a look at Focus XT and stack it with some of our bulk products such as agmatine and COP
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Lol
 
De__eB said:
But is your dendrobium lab-tested to contain useful / effective / otherwise beneficial stuff? -- OP - Take a look at Focus XT and stack it with some of our bulk products such as agmatine and COP
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OP : buy their PWO, then two of their other products
 
Im all about conquer and hemavol. Though I've only tried craze once in a trial size and loved it! To bad about that stuff.
 
Piston Honda said:
OP : buy their PWO, then two of their other products
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OP: buy our dendrobium alkaloids, what alkaloids? Who knows. What do they do? We dont know that either.

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Our products are at close to the best price point on the market so I can say grab focus xt and a couple of our single ingredient products ad theyre going to be paying less per workout than for Game Day.
 
liftallday123 said:
So as most of us know Driven Sports craze is now officially discontinued everywhere. I've use craze for 2 years straight and it never failed me once. I love the energy/focus from it. Feels like aderall to me. Anyway I'm in need of a new preworkout and need you guys opinions on whats good. I'm looking for a preworkout with the best focus and energy. Is here any preworkout with energy and focus similar to craze ???
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Focus xt. Nuffsaid...:) focus is great and energy is.clean. also won't break the.bank.
 
For superior energy to Craze: PES Enhanced (pumps and performance too). For Focus, Focus XT. For the brave: 1 scoop Enhanced + 1 scoop Stim-free Focus XT.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
For superior energy to Craze: PES Enhanced (pumps and performance too). For Focus, Focus XT. For the brave: 1 scoop Enhanced + 1 scoop Stim-free Focus XT.
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This has been my go-to lately. Love both products
 
mr.cooper69 said:
For superior energy to Craze: PES Enhanced (pumps and performance too). For Focus, Focus XT. For the brave: 1 scoop Enhanced + 1 scoop Stim-free Focus XT.
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I've been liking Purus Condense lately along with hemavol.

And OP, Cahill and Gaspari used the same "dendrobium" which is why both were spiked with the ETH amphetamine.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
For superior energy to Craze: PES Enhanced (pumps and performance too). For Focus, Focus XT. For the brave: 1 scoop Enhanced + 1 scoop Stim-free Focus XT.
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Go hard or go home.
Two scoops Enhanced, 1 scoop stim free FXT.
 
Enhanced + high volume + ALCAR


Focused, pumped, primed for battle.
 
Driven2lift said:
Enhanced + high volume + ALCAR

Focused, pumped, primed for battle.
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Ive been using Enhanced and High Volume on my non leg days and its my fav combo so far. High volume is the best non stim I've used.
 
I like potassium nitrates and hemavol + a guzzle of alphamine= good mood, energy, and sick pumpage.
admittedly I love the tunnel vision from craze
 
Focus XT is an awesome product, I'm thinking of picking up the stim free version and giving it a run with Uncut, which should be an awesome focus & energy stack.
 
If just energy and focus is your concern then look into.
GameDay
Stimul8
Stimulant X
I'm partial to the third obviously but I can honestly say I've used the other two as well and they deliver in terms of energy. and at two scoops superSize is no slouch either plus the pumps are awesome.
 
flightposite said:
If just energy and focus is your concern then look into.
GameDay
Stimul8
Stimulant X
I'm partial to the third obviously but I can honestly say I've used the other two as well and they deliver in terms of energy. and at two scoops superSize is no slouch either plus the pumps are awesome.
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recently i've been thinking of picking up some supersize and combining it with conquer.....1 scoop each should be amazing for energy and endurance
 
Thoughts on this? It's kind of expensive but has a decent amount of stuff. Dosages seem ok

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AppNutJeff said:
Focus XT is an awesome product, I'm thinking of picking up the stim free version and giving it a run with Uncut, which should be an awesome focus & energy stack.
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im using this now. havent tried them together yet though. no need to with uncut, but may do it for funsies.
 
AppNut Uncut if you're a powerlifter or a weightlifter (strength), and PES Enhanced (energy and pumps for days) if you're a bodybuilder. This is what I deduced by reading some threads here and reviews, haven't tried either but samples are coming.
 
also, for o.p add 12.5/25 mg ephedrine to many products and bam, you have your extra energy and focus.

This and/or Focus XT caffeine free, plus caffeine based preworkouts make for great workouts. I liked Condensed with this combo because of the pumps,.strength and endurance. Was pretty wicked
 
T-Bone said:
I thought you said that mixing L-tyrosine and yohimbine was a bad idea?
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I think Yohimbine HCL and L-Tyrosine is a no go. Could be wrong through.
 
good2Badawg said:
also, for o.p add 12.5/25 mg ephedrine to many products and bam, you have your extra energy and focus.

This and/or Focus XT caffeine free, plus caffeine based preworkouts make for great workouts. I liked Condensed with this combo because of the pumps,.strength and endurance. Was pretty wicked
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Mah dude knows what he's talking about. Anything with ephedrine is the ultimate pre
 
amarula said:
I think that is from the brand JYM (Jim Stoppanni's brand)
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It is. I just have seen some hate for him so I wanted to see what people thought without the name attached. The profile looks good but $40 for 20 servings is steep. However if you use 2 separate products to match it then it's not too bad
 
kbayne said:
I think Yohimbine HCL and L-Tyrosine is a no go. Could be wrong through.
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That is correct.


Here are my choices
E Pharm Clearshot
PES Enhanced
Dymatize Expand 2x

Or you can get crazy with it.

1.0-1.25 scoops PES Enhanced with 1 tbsp clearshot. Have yet to find a product that delivers like this combo does.
Pump
Focus
Endurance
And energy are all top notch.
 
howwedo107 said:
PM me your address I'll send you some
New prodigy samples bro give that a try :-)
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Haven't tried the new stuff but the OG Prodigy always hurt my stomach, and my tub ended up looking like it rotted :(
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
I am so sick of these threads.
There is a product reviews section. Read up and make an educated decision.
Research the latest and greatest preworkout ingredients.

The secret isn't in the name or the brand. It's in the science.

I like something with agmatine, citruline, nitrates, or GMS.
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That has me thinking San Fierce Domination. I believe it has all of those, however, i believe they may have ditched the nitrates. I have never been sure why they did that.
 
Docmattic said:
That has me thinking San Fierce Domination. I believe it has all of those, however, i believe they may have ditched the nitrates. I have never been sure why they did that.
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I know nothing about it, but the logical answer would be that they were patent infringing and didn't want to pay a licensing fee.
 
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