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Lunch time!!!

250g wild+basmati rice
200g chicken breast

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One thing... I'm starting to be much leaner guys and feeling fulliness:)
 
ok, ok, its sunday, today no special meals for me, i tried to stay really lean in terms of food, also tomorrow sadly just cardio for me, ill be giving blood in the morning so ill be able to do cardio only, otherwise ill feel too **** to train properly :) here in the uk the take from you a pint or something more of blood :) i am a blood donor and i couldn't give blood for months cause of my cycle, now after more than 2 months doctor said i could give blood so tomorrow ill be doing something good :)

ill be logging btw, today i feel really pumped and i started to feel a sensation like of solid muscles, which is given, i guess, by alphadex :)

next week i really hope i will start seeing and feeling much more than the last week which was the starting week :)
 
Lunch after cardio sesh and giving blood sesh lol

250g chicken breast
250g wild rice

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Please remember me not do to cardio on same days I'll be giving blood, I feel ****!
 
so. lets face the truth i am getting bored of doing cardio, yesterday i did it as i had to give blood and today ill do cardio again as its my cardio day, one of the two, so ill start again training properly from tomorrow, legs! can't wait guys!

in these days although i noticed a slight increase in metabolism, let me explain this, i have eaten more and on sunday i had like half a jar of peanut butter spread across the whole day, i am addicted lol, anyway instead of putting up water and/or fat, i did not notice any change, so i assume my metabolism has increased, also i feel a bit more hungry :)

one more thing is, every time i have my magnitropin dose i feel pumped and rock solid.

every time i have my myosynergy dose im more vascular and i have much more strength, it is too early as this is the second week and i cannot tell you yet if i feel any improvements muscles training wise as i did just cardio till today, ill be able to tell you more tomorrow tho.

endurance, and stamina are there, i can feel it, while doing cardio i feel less tired and always full of energy, assuming i am listening to the right music lol ahahah

this morning i woke up and i had my breakfast as usual, in 1 h ill have my lunch, id like to post again a picture but itll be the same as yesterday no changes ahahah

keep you posted guys
 
So far so good I'm just waiting for the real "kicks in sensation" lol
 
Xrkc6x said:
So far so good I'm just waiting for the real "kicks in sensation" lol
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I don't know exactly what you're expecting but these aren't gonna feel anything like a steroid ha
 
booneman77 said:
I don't know exactly what you're expecting but these aren't gonna feel anything like a steroid ha
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sure i know but usually with other supps i felt like really kicking in after 2/3 weeks, also, the libido spiked really up and i am expecting to see that effect in terms of strength and mass as well.

for example with abe/erase/alphat2 i felt a big difference between first 3 weeks and from the 4th on, i was much much more lean and i was feeling incredibly strong, i was able to eat much more and to get ripped as fu**, so what i am saying is that it is too early to enjoy the full benefits of the products i am stacking now, that is what i think.

i know perfectly that i won't feel anything like oxandrolone, :) i am not expecting that
 
Xrkc6x said:
sure i know but usually with other supps i felt like really kicking in after 2/3 weeks, also, the libido spiked really up and i am expecting to see that effect in terms of strength and mass as well.

for example with abe/erase/alphat2 i felt a big difference between first 3 weeks and from the 4th on, i was much much more lean and i was feeling incredibly strong, i was able to eat much more and to get ripped as fu**, so what i am saying is that it is too early to enjoy the full benefits of the products i am stacking now, that is what i think.

i know perfectly that i won't feel anything like oxandrolone, :) i am not expecting that
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For me the big difference is just that its more of a gradual build of strength/mass/etc... there just doesn't seem to be that "WOW" type of moment with natty supps. They just get better slowly over time.
 
booneman77 said:
For me the big difference is just that its more of a gradual build of strength/mass/etc... there just doesn't seem to be that "WOW" type of moment with natty supps. They just get better slowly over time.
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Let's see, I had the "wow" moment with the old stack so I guess I was just lucky then :)

I'm doing my cardio now and I'm getting booooored lol
 
cardio sesh today, nothing to report apart from the fact that i could have been on that treadmill for 3h more lol, i did 1h and a half and i was feeling fresh :D no post WO meal, i just had my BCAA and i went home, i just had my dinner, chicken and some veggies plus the alphadex pill YO :D looking forward to tomorrow, legs day!
 
LEGS day today!!!! i feel positive!

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i will instead cause i am the master of the universe ahahahahahah okok.... i feel really good today and can't wait for the workout tonight!
 
Xrkc6x said:
LEGS day today!!!! i feel positive! <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=115086"/> i will instead cause i am the master of the universe ahahahahahah okok.... i feel really good today and can't wait for the workout tonight!
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it's just before 6am here, hazardous road conditions and may be working from home... Still heading to the gym for my leg day as well ;) suck it Mother Nature.
 
booneman77 said:
it's just before 6am here, hazardous road conditions and may be working from home... Still heading to the gym for my leg day as well ;) suck it Mother Nature.
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yeah man! thats the right attitude! i go gymming even if earthquake is happening ahahahh :) 11am ish here in the UK and i am stuck in the office and i am hungry as **** i must say this gentiana is really kickin in now i guess :)

i was doing some research on aramistane in the meantime, what i found is that taking aramistane products like erase pro Old formula for example with alphadex and forsk-95 is a great stack if you can handle the dry joints..... what you master think about this?
 
Arimistane I found to be better at cortisol control than estrogen through my blood work. Alphadex has been the most potent in terms of e2 control or reduction in my experience. I like SNS' Inhibit-E too

I'd avoid arimistane in this stack though. Alphadex will lower e2 and adding a supp to lower cortisol can destroy your joints.
 
guess you right :) i was using erase pro old formula dosed high at 2xcaps a day and i never had any issues but thanks for the suggestion
 
Swolbraham said:
wow that's crazy, old erase pro made my joints ache big time. but that's a sign it worked lol
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yes :)

then i did use the AD-3 one from which got same amount or arimistane in it and cost less lol and it was working as well really good, also it had l-dopa in it :)
 
Agreed with Swolbraham you definitely don't want to stack anti e products. Too low of e will crush libido, joints, and ability to gain and even maintain mass. No Bueno.
 
Thx guys! Doing my legs right now and I'm noticing s lot of strength so I went up of 5kg each side on squat and that is awesome to me!
 
LEGS DAY!!!

Squat 8x8-8-8-6-6-4-4-4
leg press 3x8
steady lunges 4x8
leg extension 4x8
sit leg curl 4x8
dead lift hamstrings 3x6
hyper ext hamstring until they burn!!!
calf 4x12

so i did legs today i found myself with a lot more strength, i was able to add 5kg each side on squat, and i was feeling really strong and energy seemed to not finish, never finish!

let me give you some detailed info:

strength: much more, on squat i felt like i had no fatigue at all, and i was even able to go up with weight and doing more reps, i cannot tell about others muscles as i have been doing cardio for days since i gave blood so i started now doing weights this week, but the situation looks really promising.

stamina: same as before nothing has changed but still good increase

endurance: this is something i noticed yesterday a lot on the treadmill, i did 1h and a half and i was still able to to more! no tired at all

libido: this is incredible guys, this seems to have no limit, i am starting wondering if at some point it will finish increasing, its a shame my gf is in Rome!!!! DHO! ahahahah otherwise i was gonna kill her :P

hunger: this has increased, between yesterday and today i felt a lot more hungry than like for example monday :) this is good as its helping me eating all my macros as i am not usually hungry :) good help here

pumps: well, this is strange, there are moment during the day, for example midday and after taking magnitroipin, that i feel like pumped, like a sensation of full pumps all around the body.

this is for now guys, any question let me know

i am wondering if i should increase my calories/macros... but i don't wanna get any water/fat lol
 
so guys, today my legs are ****ed and that is good ahahahah, i am feeling more restored so probably the supps are acting on that side as well, one more thing i wanted to say is a will finish the ABE new formula and i will go back to ABE old formula, that was working much better for me.... androst-5-ene-17-one-3B-7B-diol i guess is more effective on me, this is my personal thinking and feeling, maybe on you is much better the new one i don't know i can only say what works better for me :)
 
Xrkc6x said:
so guys, today my legs are ****ed and that is good ahahahah, i am feeling more restored so probably the supps are acting on that side as well, one more thing i wanted to say is a will finish the ABE new formula and i will go back to ABE old formula, that was working much better for me.... androst-5-ene-17-one-3B-7B-diol i guess is more effective on me, this is my personal thinking and feeling, maybe on you is much better the new one i don't know i can only say what works better for me :)
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you mean erase? That's arimistane you listed there.
 
booneman77 said:
you mean erase? That's arimistane you listed there.
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nono, that is ABE old formula compound, i know it seems the same but they are different, erase has

Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione

old ABE has

androst-5-ene-17-one-3B-7B-diol

talking about old ABE
 
Xrkc6x said:
nono, that is ABE old formula compound, i know it seems the same but they are different, erase has Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione old ABE has androst-5-ene-17-one-3B-7B-diol talking about old ABE
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ah you're right. I just see androst and usually stop there and assume arimistane since that's usually the convo ha
 
same as me initially lol i was convinced that both were using the same compound lol

5-Androstenediol (androst-5-ene-3β,17β-diol or 5-AED) is one of two androstenediols, the other being 4-androstenediol.

5-Androstenediol is a direct metabolite of the most abundant steroid produced by the human adrenal cortex, dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA). 5-Androstenediol is less androgenic than 4-androstenediol, and stimulates the immune system. When administered to rats in vivo, 5-androstenediol has approximately 1/70 the androgenicity of DHEA, 1/185 the androgenicity of androstenedione, and 1/475 the androgenicity of testosterone.[1]
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YO

Back

dead lift 4x6-8
pullups with weight 4x8
pullups narrow with weight 4x8
row with dumbbells 3x8
vertical row 3x8
low pulley 4x8

Tri

lat cable 3x12 warm up
skull crash on incline bench 4x8
push down lat 4x8
dumbbells over head 4x8
hammer over the bench 90 4x8

ABS

i gotta be honest today, lets say it wasn't the best workout day in my life, i had fast heartbit and i felt really tired, dunno if this is cause i was really hungry and the hunger is going really high, at the same time i am keeping the macros as before, i did not increase anything yet so maybe....

said that once home i basically jumped on my chicken which was NOT enough but i did not eat anything else, i am trying to follow the diet strictly :) even now i am writing i am feeling hungry :(

strength: today wasn't really a lot, as said above i felt tired

stamina: no stamina today, i did also 10 minutes of cardio and seemed to me like 10h :(

endurance: not at all, what a ****ty day!!!

pumps: yes they were always there!

i am seeing myself leaner than before and libido i always a BIG PLUS!

i am thinking to do 1 week of rest the next week, which means 1 week of just cardio and abs, 1h a day, i have not been "resting" since 1 year, so... what do you think, should i increase calories? yes or not? what about the "rest week" should i go higher in carbs? or lower? supplements i will keep taking my doses.
 
ok guys, this morning i woke up hungry like a pig fasting since a week ahahahahah dunno if you know what i mean, its increasing a lot and its increasing also drying effect :) today chest and bic :)

also, Monday it'll be 2 weeks and since i started this is the results:

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so i KNOW guys that this is NOT correct as a fat % but as i already said, i am using this to keep track of weights and fat%, i mean, even if its not right i can see that it went down and weight went up :) so... i am pretty much happy about it :) and i also know this is not a huge difference but in 2 weeks its more than what i was expecting :)

i will post some pictures too of myself tomorrow or even on Monday so it'll be same day to compare and i will post also the weights/fat% again on Monday :)

PS weight measurements has been taken at same time, same scale, empty stomach, and eating the same pre sleep meal so pretty much no differences, also, no drinking water since last night after pre sleep meal, same conditions as the first weight measurements :)
 
ok today chest and bic + abs

Chest

Incline bench dumbbells 4x8
flat bench dumbbells 4x8
flys on flat bench 4x8
pectoral machine narrow 4x8
cables high 4x8
cable shoulders height 4x8

Bic

stand curl 4x8 (one week Z one week --)
alternate dumbbells straight 4x8
scott bench 3x8
hammer sit alternate 4x8
cable from down 4x8

ABS

so today i was pretty impressed with the ability to rest just 20/30 sec between sets and also i felt not tired at all, it was a good day today, the hunger is starting to be an issue, if you can suggest something here i would be happy...

strength: today strength came back to me and i went up of roughly 2kg each exercise!!!

stamina: infinite! just one word, infinite stamina ahahha

endurance: it came back too! i was feeling unbreakable lol

pumps: all day long, especially when i take the magnitropin dose

libido: guys... this is something that is starting to be annoying, ahahahah i feel like always looking for sex, its nice but when you cannot have sex it becomes an issue lol anyway seriously its going high and high and its great as there is also the feeling of well being all together.

nutrition: today was as usual, i wanted to add some nuts for lunch but when i went to the kitchen in the office, the "others" raided the nuts so no nuts for me.... im always hungry!
 
So today was shoulders day

Shoulders

shoulders press 4x8+1 overloaded x6 shoulder press with bar 3x8 lateral raises 4x8 overloaded + 1 set to burn lateral alternate raises this ones slow, really slow + isometric 4x8 front raises 4x8 front raises with cable 4x8 bent over raises with cables low 3x8
bent over raises with cables high 3x8

Nothing really to log as the strength and others parameters were pretty much the same as yesterday :)

I had my lunch with fish today just to eat some real fatty acid instead of taking always caps :)

Tomorrow will be my rest day

I did increase actually some weights like 2kg so good good

My hunger is still going up guys and I'm still wondering if increase my macros

Any suggestion would be appreciated
 
Xrkc6x said:
So today was shoulders day Shoulders shoulders press 4x8+1 overloaded x6 shoulder press with bar 3x8 lateral raises 4x8 overloaded + 1 set to burnlateral alternate raises this ones slow, really slow + isometric 4x8 front raises 4x8 front raises with cable 4x8 bent over raises with cables low 3x8 bent over raises with cables high 3x8 Nothing really to log as the strength and others parameters were pretty much the same as yesterday :) I had my lunch with fish today just to eat some real fatty acid instead of taking always caps :) Tomorrow will be my rest day I did increase actually some weights like 2kg so good good My hunger is still going up guys and I'm still wondering if increase my macros Any suggestion would be appreciated
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during my mag run I never had much of a hunger increase (I'm starving all the time anyways ha) but I added 100kcals every week and kept getting leaner while slowly gaining weight so is say go for it, just go slow
 
thanks a lot booneman77 i'll add 100kcal and see how i'll feel, ill start adding some carbs only no fat and no proteins, proteins ar already enough.

today its my rest day guys :) happy ahahah but i miss the gym tho lol

one more question i was asking, i wanted to do next week of "rest" away from weights, its been like more than 2 years which i've never been resting, so i was thinking, maybe its going to add some benefits? so id like to do just cardio 1h a day and abs 2 times in the next week, how does it look? is it too much? is it wrong? what about the supplements? should i stop during the resting week or should i keep taking them? calories wise? same?

thanks!

PS the salmon is in the oven ahahahhaha
 
Xrkc6x said:
thanks a lot booneman77 i'll add 100kcal and see how i'll feel, ill start adding some carbs only no fat and no proteins, proteins ar already enough. today its my rest day guys :) happy ahahah but i miss the gym tho lol one more question i was asking, i wanted to do next week of "rest" away from weights, its been like more than 2 years which i've never been resting, so i was thinking, maybe its going to add some benefits? so id like to do just cardio 1h a day and abs 2 times in the next week, how does it look? is it too much? is it wrong? what about the supplements? should i stop during the resting week or should i keep taking them? calories wise? same? thanks! PS the salmon is in the oven ahahahhaha
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rest time now and again is a huge help. Sometimes it's the body that needs a break but other times it's your mind/cns. It can be very difficult to mentally justify it though but it will almost certainly help you. If I were you, to get the most out of it, I would take at least 5 days off of everything physical. Cardio and abs included. This will give your mind and body a real break and ensure that you actually recover as opposed to just giving up the weights and then still putting some stress on your body. Mentally this is better too if your struggling to justify taking off as it will give you the most recovery in the least time. When you come back you will feel refreshed, reinvigorated, and often times even be stronger then you were before. Diet wise, it might be good to relax a bit too. Maybe just don't count your cals as tightly and allow a few (small) indulgences. You're not gonna gain 50lb in a few days so that's not a big deal and your body can use the extra food to help recover even further.

Long story short, if you feel like you need a break. You probably do. And while your on one, you might as well get the most you can out of it. Rest up, eat well, and then come back better and stronger.
 
woa man, thanks for such a detailed suggestion, i agree 110% with it, i will take the break but unfortunately cause of my thai boxing training, i can't really give up on everything so i will continue the macros, maybe going up a bit, i will do some cardio, maybe not every day and i will enjoy the resting week, i will continue with supplementation tho as i don't wanna stop it now.

i will continue to log anyway :) you cannot get rid of me lol :)

i think i need a break, i started thinking about it as i am having pains every day on my right shoulder, i had 3 surgery on that shoulder in 2000 and 2001, i have an artificial capsule and joint so i have to be really careful, and this was the main reason why i was thinking about it :) so i guess it is official now, ill rest one week and i will be better than before once back on weights :)
 
Thanks guys I'm up for it im just a bit sad lol everything was going great and I was enjoying the run, hope that this break won't ruin the supplementation:)
 
NoAddedHmones said:
You seem to be going balls to the wall on cardio, you will burn out very quickly doing 1.5 hour sessions. Trust me.
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It's to keep up my breath for fighting but I guess I can do 40 instead and increase 100 cal
 
Xrkc6x said:
It's to keep up my breath for fighting but I guess I can do 40 instead and increase 100 cal
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Hmm im more worried about the negative cascade of events going on in your body from being in a calorie deficit, doing long bouts of cardio and questionable diet.

But see how you go.
 
I agree with you and that's what I am scared of, I can't just keep doing cardio for one week, that would mean doing 3 times the cardio I was doing before so you made me think about this properly, you and the other guys here, I'll take a break completely and I'll keep the diet as it is, right now my macros and diet is going well, if you have a look at some post above I posted the progresses since starting, also macros and diet is written at the very beginning and it's good based on my body composition. Although you right, can't do 6 days of cardio so ill do just a break, trying to keep the muscles :)
 
Xrkc6x said:
I agree with you and that's what I am scared of, I can't just keep doing cardio for one week, that would mean doing 3 times the cardio I was doing before so you made me think about this properly, you and the other guys here, I'll take a break completely and I'll keep the diet as it is, right now my macros and diet is going well, if you have a look at some post above I posted the progresses since starting, also macros and diet is written at the very beginning and it's good based on my body composition. Although you right, can't do 6 days of cardio so ill do just a break, trying to keep the muscles :)
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Yeah i read your OP and thats what i based my comment off, you are eating no where near enough fats, particularly saturated. You have close to no vegetables and optimally you should be eating whole foods in place of all those powdered carbs. iMO of course. Have a week off, rest up and get back to it bruv ;)
 
Xrkc6x said:
I agree with you and that's what I am scared of, I can't just keep doing cardio for one week, that would mean doing 3 times the cardio I was doing before so you made me think about this properly, you and the other guys here, I'll take a break completely and I'll keep the diet as it is, right now my macros and diet is going well, if you have a look at some post above I posted the progresses since starting, also macros and diet is written at the very beginning and it's good based on my body composition. Although you right, can't do 6 days of cardio so ill do just a break, trying to keep the muscles :)
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good plan. A week off of cardio isn't going to hurt your conditioning at all. In fact the rest will probably help you.
 
I would appreciate your suggestions then, I'm here to learn and I do accept all kind of suggestions.

I thought saturated fats were not healthy, I'm taking lots of omega 3/6/9 and rapeseed oil is that not enough?

Should I eat more red meat and saturated fat?
I'm not eating lots of veg cause I cant I get sick when I do so I try to eat salad asparagus celery cocumbers and things like that
 
Xrkc6x said:
I would appreciate your suggestions then, I'm here to learn and I do accept all kind of suggestions. I thought saturated fats were not healthy, I'm taking lots of omega 3/6/9 and rapeseed oil is that not enough? Should I eat more red meat and saturated fat? I'm not eating lots of veg cause I cant I get sick when I do so I try to eat salad asparagus celery cocumbers and things like that
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are you taking a multi then? Or even look into a greens supplement. It's not as good as natural veggies but your body still needs the nutrients, especially in a deep deficit and with hard training.
 
booneman77 said:
are you taking a multi then? Or even look into a greens supplement. It's not as good as natural veggies but your body still needs the nutrients, especially in a deep deficit and with hard training.
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Yeah I'm taking orange triad + green the one by controlled labs and it's including greens too, obviously it's not the same but it helps
 
Xrkc6x said:
I would appreciate your suggestions then, I'm here to learn and I do accept all kind of suggestions.

I thought saturated fats were not healthy, I'm taking lots of omega 3/6/9 and rapeseed oil is that not enough?

Should I eat more red meat and saturated fat?
I'm not eating lots of veg cause I cant I get sick when I do so I try to eat salad asparagus celery cocumbers and things like that
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No, Saturated fat is not inherently unhealthy. In fact it is essential for many hormones produced by the body. You should aim for balance in all your types of dietary fats because too much of one is what becomes unhealthy ie. Mega dosing omega 3's.

I don't believe popping a multi or a greens supplement is a viable replacement for real veggies in terms of getting sufficent fiber and all essential micro nutrients. My advice is and again all IMO, add in at least 250- 300g of mixed coloured veggies each day, increase your fat intake through things such as fatty meat, eggs, milk etc and cut back on these powdered carbs you are taking.

Good luck.
 
Thanks NoAddedHmones I'll Try to eat more red meat and add some veggies but it'll be just salad mushrooms and celery, cucumber, maybe tomatoes :)

When you say powdered carbs you refer to the pure fine oats? Or the maltofextrin/dextrose which intake as a post wo? Can't really take anything else as a post wo, that'll be the fast absorbing choice, regarding to the oats they are supposed to be good, low GI good fats and lot of fibers.

I can't drink milk tho I'm got sick If I do :(

Thanks for the advices I'll try to make some change based on what you suggested;)
 
So 1st resting day today and I'm about to have my lunch :)

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