poopypants
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ya thats true. i think im going to run an ATD throughout my next cycle though considering im allready gonna take a hit using a methyl and dont want to add to it with a SERM on cycle.
gten79 said:Its too bad ALRI isn't going to come out with their STACK 2 counter part for MEO-TRN. Does anybody have info on this?:think:
"Okay, now here is the part that just amazes me about the unique Methoxy-TRN™ (and its Stack Two counter part…coming soon) structure created by ALRI." Invalid Link Removed
SonnyTheBull said:I believe the stack 2 counter part was Methoxy-TST. My guess would be a methoxy version of test? Hope they release this.
Max32 said:It's not gonna happen. TRN is not being produced anymore either.
Stuntdawg said:Even its distribution was pretty limited. I've noticed it at only a few online stores.
diplomats said:Yeah and those few stores are running out fast.
Stuntdawg said:I'm looking forward to your upcoming log. That is one bad a$$ cycle you're running.
i think you should wait to see the results of ryans bloodwork then decide.ingo_1978 said:What do you guys think about using methoxy-trn to kick starta deca/test cycle? good or bad idea? Do you think it safer than Dbol?
ryansm said:Alright so for the last several days I have been feeling like ****. Similar to how I feel on m1t, just really lethargic, and no motivation to do anything. I am shutdown for certain, my sex drive is nonexistent, and my mood sucks ass.
I have not trained recently to give myself a break. I will be off for the next two days as well.
I will update my weight and measurements on Monday.
BP 138/89
wastedwhiteboy2 said:I can handle the lethargy and lack of sex drive as long as its not too toxic. I wonder if it will take some time for test to recover during pct.
AnabolicMinds Forum said:You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ryansm again.
JonasDavidsson said:a friend of mine has just finished a 3 week sd cycle,he is thinking of going for 3-4 weeks more with trn stacked with 4-AD 800mg aday,he has all the precoutions in cheeck,comments on this?
quigs said:Just finished as in he's done today or a week ago? If he finished today, sure give it a go.
JonasDavidsson said:he is finish tomorrow,do you think the 4-ad could help putting on abitt of mass and keep his sex drive fair?
poopypants said:MAN! so tell me Ryan is the strength you get on this close to what you get with straight up tren?
ill admit i started last monday on my M-TRN and allready blowin up in the strength section. gained 4 lbs (not sure prob mostly water weight but no noticable bloating or retention). wasnt gonna do it but it was just calling to me off my shelf. depending on what the blood looks like with Ryan ill be taking PP right after with Max LMG covering the transition.
so ill probally run it like this
wks 1-2 Meo-Trn 4.5mged
wks 3-4 Meo-Trn 4.5mg ed, MaxLMG 75mg ed
wks 5-6 MaxLMG 75mg ed, PP 10/20mg
wks 7-8 PP 30/20mg
i dont know that ill keep a log but might put together a notes suggestion thread with what i encounter and overall results. wish me luck, this supp looks promising allready!
JonasDavidsson said:a friend of mine has just finished a 3 week sd cycle,he is thinking of going for 3-4 weeks more with trn stacked with 4-AD 800mg aday,he has all the precoutions in cheeck,comments on this?
Velo said:I know stacking test or 4ad would help with sides you are experiencing but would it also lower your BP? Is high BP somehow connected to shut down?
Thank You for all your feedback. It is greatly appreciated.ryansm said:Well today I will sart with the bad news.
This cycle is getting out of hand, I had a severe increase in heartrate today during workout. My Bp got way out of hand 155/100.
I could certainly feel the pressure in my chest, even caused slight angina. I have to say this is absurd, I am taking everything under the sun to keep my bp low, but it is not happening. This is the first time I have ever encountered such a problem.
Waist 1/8 in smaller
chest same as last measurement
thigh 1/4 of an inch larger:blink:
weight 312 up 10 pounds
Workout
it was supposed to be around 75% but well that didn't happen
Snatch 100 x 4 120 x 3 140 x 2 145 x 1 150 x 1 155 x 1 160 x 1
Power clean 120 x 4 140 x 4 160 x 4 170 x 4 180 x 3:blink:
Oly Back squat (ATG) 180 x 6 220 x 5 240 x 5 280 x 3 300 x 3 320 x 3 340 x 3:blink:
So I tripled my previous max on cleans with power clean, if you do not know the difference clean is the full movement catching it at a lower height which means heavier lifts.
I managed to b squat almost 750 for three quite easy.
I must say this is by far the best hormone I have ever used for strength by far, incredible strength gains. But the sides are very very harsh, I can only imagine what damage I am causing.
What worries me worse is my cholesterol levels while my heart was under abnormal stress. Who know we shall see.
A little word of warning, those of you who do decide to use this, I would suggest the following.
3 months prior start Hawthorne Berry
1 month prior begin celery seed supplementation
1 week prior take twinlab blood pressure control
Increase potassium intake to around 5 grams daily taking your larger dose pre/post workout
Also add in some type of slow absorbing magnesium for better uptake of the k. I use a brand called Slowmag, not cheap, but it is well worth it.
Use all of these during, and throughout post cycle.
ryansm said:Well today I will sart with the bad news.
This cycle is getting out of hand, I had a severe increase in heartrate today during workout. My Bp got way out of hand 155/100.
I could certainly feel the pressure in my chest, even caused slight angina. I have to say this is absurd, I am taking everything under the sun to keep my bp low, but it is not happening. This is the first time I have ever encountered such a problem.
Waist 1/8 in smaller
chest same as last measurement
thigh 1/4 of an inch larger:blink:
weight 312 up 10 pounds
Workout
it was supposed to be around 75% but well that didn't happen
Snatch 100 x 4 120 x 3 140 x 2 145 x 1 150 x 1 155 x 1 160 x 1
Power clean 120 x 4 140 x 4 160 x 4 170 x 4 180 x 3:blink:
Oly Back squat (ATG) 180 x 6 220 x 5 240 x 5 280 x 3 300 x 3 320 x 3 340 x 3:blink:
So I tripled my previous max on cleans with power clean, if you do not know the difference clean is the full movement catching it at a lower height which means heavier lifts.
I managed to b squat almost 750 for three quite easy.
I must say this is by far the best hormone I have ever used for strength by far, incredible strength gains. But the sides are very very harsh, I can only imagine what damage I am causing.
What worries me worse is my cholesterol levels while my heart was under abnormal stress. Who know we shall see.
A little word of warning, those of you who do decide to use this, I would suggest the following.
3 months prior start Hawthorne Berry
1 month prior begin celery seed supplementation
1 week prior take twinlab blood pressure control
Increase potassium intake to around 5 grams daily taking your larger dose pre/post workout
Also add in some type of slow absorbing magnesium for better uptake of the k. I use a brand called Slowmag, not cheap, but it is well worth it.
Use all of these during, and throughout post cycle.
ryansm said:Thanks guys, I wonder sometimes why I do this, and I compete. I can't imagine pushing myself this far on a recreational level, something to think about. I am not judging anyone, hell I am the last one to do so, but the fact of the matter is when you think about the negatives is it worth it?
I am in one of those moods if you couldn't tell.![]()
Grunt76 said:Aren't these new orals really powerful? I haven't done real gear, but how could it be even stronger than this stuff? I mean not just this one, but SD, PP, etc.
You're one for telling it true, Ryan...