Methoxy-Trn log

ya thats true. i think im going to run an ATD throughout my next cycle though considering im allready gonna take a hit using a methyl and dont want to add to it with a SERM on cycle.
 
The SERM is negligible and is still your best bet.

Anyway today is what day 13 I believe

Workout: ~75%
Snatch off platform 70 x 3 100 x 3 110 x 3 120 x 3
clean pull blocks 130 x 4 150 x 3 170 x 2 190 x 2 200 x 2
static holds front squat 250 for 5 seconds, repeated with 270 and 300

Today was an easy day as far as work, only two real exercises and then some static holds. Strength continues to feel good, normally Iam starting to feel rather tapped out after three hard days of training, but everything is fine. feel good, sleeping well, and strength continues to climb. Back pumps are present, but nothing like m1t, or sdrol.

Bp was 132/68, I started taking twinlab blood pressure control along with my other bp supps a few days ago it seems to be working.
 
Its too bad ALRI isn't going to come out with their STACK 2 counter part for MEO-TRN. Does anybody have info on this?:think:

"Okay, now here is the part that just amazes me about the unique Methoxy-TRN™ (and its Stack Two counter part…coming soon) structure created by ALRI." Invalid Link Removed
 
gten79 said:
Its too bad ALRI isn't going to come out with their STACK 2 counter part for MEO-TRN. Does anybody have info on this?:think:

"Okay, now here is the part that just amazes me about the unique Methoxy-TRN™ (and its Stack Two counter part…coming soon) structure created by ALRI." Invalid Link Removed

I believe the stack 2 counter part was Methoxy-TST. My guess would be a methoxy version of test? Hope they release this.
 
SonnyTheBull said:
I believe the stack 2 counter part was Methoxy-TST. My guess would be a methoxy version of test? Hope they release this.

It's not gonna happen. TRN is not being produced anymore either.
 
Stuntdawg said:
I'm looking forward to your upcoming log. That is one bad a$$ cycle you're running.

Yeah dude, i will be starting in 3 days bro. My blood work came in good, and i have not touched any anabolics for 4 months. So...make sure you subscribe to the log.

Thanks dude

diplo
 
What do you guys think about using methoxy-trn to kick starta deca/test cycle? good or bad idea? Do you think it safer than Dbol?
 
ingo_1978 said:
What do you guys think about using methoxy-trn to kick starta deca/test cycle? good or bad idea? Do you think it safer than Dbol?
i think you should wait to see the results of ryans bloodwork then decide.
 
Alright so for the last several days I have been feeling like ****. Similar to how I feel on m1t, just really lethargic, and no motivation to do anything. I am shutdown for certain, my sex drive is nonexistent, and my mood sucks ass.

I have not trained recently to give myself a break. I will be off for the next two days as well.

I will update my weight and measurements on Monday.

BP 138/89
 
Geeze I can only imagine, I can see this being the next M1T in all aspects.

crossing my fingers though!
 
ryansm said:
Alright so for the last several days I have been feeling like ****. Similar to how I feel on m1t, just really lethargic, and no motivation to do anything. I am shutdown for certain, my sex drive is nonexistent, and my mood sucks ass.

I have not trained recently to give myself a break. I will be off for the next two days as well.

I will update my weight and measurements on Monday.

BP 138/89

Do you have any 4AD lying around that you might be able to add to combat some of the sides? Lethargy can be brutal...
 
I can handle the lethargy and lack of sex drive as long as its not too toxic. I wonder if it will take some time for test to recover during pct.
 
Relax, guys. Everyone reacts differently. Maybe this one is particularly hard on Ryansm here, or heck, maybe not.

Hey ryan how about adding some DHEA?
 
I hope things get better ryansm. guys take a look this is from the methoxy-trn write-up:


Our Product Design Goals:
  • Strength
  • Recovery
  • Performance
  • Muscle Mass
  • Vascularity
  • No Lethargy
  • Libido Support
  • Non-Aromatizing
yeah let's just hope this wasn't just "marketing"

another thing:

ALRI Presents:
Methoxy-TRN
Xtreme Anabolism!


extreme anabolism. I thought this would be mostly for strength gains?? what do you guys think on the anabolism part?
 
The fact that is a tren derivative would make some of of those claims flat out bs.

Anyway I have means of combating the lethargy, but I am not using it to make this a fair assessment of the methoxy-tren.

Anyway I am just posting what I am going through, I hope it can help some of you.
 
wastedwhiteboy2 said:
I can handle the lethargy and lack of sex drive as long as its not too toxic. I wonder if it will take some time for test to recover during pct.

True the shutdown is of concern, really it would be better used in a stack with test.
 
Totally agree Ryan. If you are to be a guinea pig of a product, then you can't use something like 4-AD.
 
Great log ryan, I know everyone appreciates your honest opinions / feedback about the product! :thumbsup:
 
a friend of mine has just finished a 3 week sd cycle,he is thinking of going for 3-4 weeks more with trn stacked with 4-AD 800mg aday,he has all the precoutions in cheeck,comments on this?
 
JonasDavidsson said:
a friend of mine has just finished a 3 week sd cycle,he is thinking of going for 3-4 weeks more with trn stacked with 4-AD 800mg aday,he has all the precoutions in cheeck,comments on this?


Just finished as in he's done today or a week ago? If he finished today, sure give it a go.
 
quigs said:
Just finished as in he's done today or a week ago? If he finished today, sure give it a go.

he is finish tomorrow,do you think the 4-ad could help putting on abitt of mass and keep his sex drive fair?
 
i hope it does, I have started front loading 4-AD to give it time to kick in

How long should it take (for M1T users, how long did you frontload beforehand?), I am guessing at two weeks. I am also still taking Activate to see if I notice any difference.
 
JonasDavidsson said:
he is finish tomorrow,do you think the 4-ad could help putting on abitt of mass and keep his sex drive fair?

Yeah I think that the TRN/4AD would prove to be a good cycle. I plan to run it sometime in the future myself. Keep us updated...
 
MAN! so tell me Ryan is the strength you get on this close to what you get with straight up tren?

ill admit i started last monday on my M-TRN and allready blowin up in the strength section. gained 4 lbs (not sure prob mostly water weight but no noticable bloating or retention). wasnt gonna do it but it was just calling to me off my shelf. depending on what the blood looks like with Ryan ill be taking PP right after with Max LMG covering the transition.

so ill probally run it like this

wks 1-2 Meo-Trn 4.5mged
wks 3-4 Meo-Trn 4.5mg ed, MaxLMG 75mg ed
wks 5-6 MaxLMG 75mg ed, PP 10/20mg
wks 7-8 PP 30/20mg

i dont know that ill keep a log but might put together a notes suggestion thread with what i encounter and overall results. wish me luck, this supp looks promising allready!
 
poopypants said:
MAN! so tell me Ryan is the strength you get on this close to what you get with straight up tren?

ill admit i started last monday on my M-TRN and allready blowin up in the strength section. gained 4 lbs (not sure prob mostly water weight but no noticable bloating or retention). wasnt gonna do it but it was just calling to me off my shelf. depending on what the blood looks like with Ryan ill be taking PP right after with Max LMG covering the transition.

so ill probally run it like this

wks 1-2 Meo-Trn 4.5mged
wks 3-4 Meo-Trn 4.5mg ed, MaxLMG 75mg ed
wks 5-6 MaxLMG 75mg ed, PP 10/20mg
wks 7-8 PP 30/20mg

i dont know that ill keep a log but might put together a notes suggestion thread with what i encounter and overall results. wish me luck, this supp looks promising allready!

Yea i started the Meo trn too poopy! Ill be adding PP in as well after it and maybe for one week overlapping it depending. My strength is already on the up n up, the week before i started i hadnt done dips in a week and it was hard for me to get 6 controlled reps, i did it yesterday and it was easier then pie to get all the reps needed. :woohoo:


But yea ryan is this comparible to meo tren in the strength depot? Whats ur take on it ryan?
 
No tren ace is better imo. Of course I would never run this solo, I am doing it because I was asked. Anyway I am seeing a recent trend that is disturbing. Too many ppl are basing their cycles around orals, I realize that there are not a lot of legal options right now, but it is not responsible nor effective to do so.

PP I would not run another strong oral with this, 8 weeks would be too long, imo.

Today's BP 135/78
no workout today, I will have weight and measurements tomorrow

For those who are front loading, yes two weeks is fine, and I would say it should work nice.

Here is something I would run in the future possible.

weeks 1-8 1-test
weeks 1-8 4ad
weeks 3-7 Methoxy-tren
weeks 6-8 3aa
 
JonasDavidsson said:
a friend of mine has just finished a 3 week sd cycle,he is thinking of going for 3-4 weeks more with trn stacked with 4-AD 800mg aday,he has all the precoutions in cheeck,comments on this?

3-4 weeks of the 4ad is not enough imo. I also would not run any more orals after 3 weeks on SD.

Just be patient, I will have blood results up in couple of weeks.
 
I know stacking test or 4ad would help with sides you are experiencing but would it also lower your BP? Is high BP somehow connected to shut down?
 
Velo said:
I know stacking test or 4ad would help with sides you are experiencing but would it also lower your BP? Is high BP somehow connected to shut down?

No if anything it would increase due to aromitization and water retention.
 
Well today I will sart with the bad news.

This cycle is getting out of hand, I had a severe increase in heartrate today during workout. My Bp got way out of hand 155/100.

I could certainly feel the pressure in my chest, even caused slight angina. I have to say this is absurd, I am taking everything under the sun to keep my bp low, but it is not happening. This is the first time I have ever encountered such a problem.

Waist 1/8 in smaller
chest same as last measurement
thigh 1/4 of an inch larger:blink:

weight 312 up 10 pounds

Workout
it was supposed to be around 75% but well that didn't happen

Snatch 100 x 4 120 x 3 140 x 2 145 x 1 150 x 1 155 x 1 160 x 1
Power clean 120 x 4 140 x 4 160 x 4 170 x 4 180 x 3:blink:

Oly Back squat (ATG) 180 x 6 220 x 5 240 x 5 280 x 3 300 x 3 320 x 3 340 x 3:blink:

So I tripled my previous max on cleans with power clean, if you do not know the difference clean is the full movement catching it at a lower height which means heavier lifts.

I managed to b squat almost 750 for three quite easy.

I must say this is by far the best hormone I have ever used for strength by far, incredible strength gains. But the sides are very very harsh, I can only imagine what damage I am causing.

What worries me worse is my cholesterol levels while my heart was under abnormal stress. Who know we shall see.

A little word of warning, those of you who do decide to use this, I would suggest the following.

3 months prior start Hawthorne Berry
1 month prior begin celery seed supplementation
1 week prior take twinlab blood pressure control
Increase potassium intake to around 5 grams daily taking your larger dose pre/post workout
Also add in some type of slow absorbing magnesium for better uptake of the k. I use a brand called Slowmag, not cheap, but it is well worth it.

Use all of these during, and throughout post cycle.
 
ryansm said:
Well today I will sart with the bad news.

This cycle is getting out of hand, I had a severe increase in heartrate today during workout. My Bp got way out of hand 155/100.

I could certainly feel the pressure in my chest, even caused slight angina. I have to say this is absurd, I am taking everything under the sun to keep my bp low, but it is not happening. This is the first time I have ever encountered such a problem.

Waist 1/8 in smaller
chest same as last measurement
thigh 1/4 of an inch larger:blink:

weight 312 up 10 pounds

Workout
it was supposed to be around 75% but well that didn't happen

Snatch 100 x 4 120 x 3 140 x 2 145 x 1 150 x 1 155 x 1 160 x 1
Power clean 120 x 4 140 x 4 160 x 4 170 x 4 180 x 3:blink:

Oly Back squat (ATG) 180 x 6 220 x 5 240 x 5 280 x 3 300 x 3 320 x 3 340 x 3:blink:

So I tripled my previous max on cleans with power clean, if you do not know the difference clean is the full movement catching it at a lower height which means heavier lifts.

I managed to b squat almost 750 for three quite easy.

I must say this is by far the best hormone I have ever used for strength by far, incredible strength gains. But the sides are very very harsh, I can only imagine what damage I am causing.

What worries me worse is my cholesterol levels while my heart was under abnormal stress. Who know we shall see.

A little word of warning, those of you who do decide to use this, I would suggest the following.

3 months prior start Hawthorne Berry
1 month prior begin celery seed supplementation
1 week prior take twinlab blood pressure control
Increase potassium intake to around 5 grams daily taking your larger dose pre/post workout
Also add in some type of slow absorbing magnesium for better uptake of the k. I use a brand called Slowmag, not cheap, but it is well worth it.

Use all of these during, and throughout post cycle.
Thank You for all your feedback. It is greatly appreciated.
 
ryan--
I'm sorry to hear about your bad news. Let me say for the record, however, that I and many others really appreciate the concern and detail you put into your cycles and logs, as well as the importance you put on safety and in stressing general health. You are inspiring and very helpful and your input is respected and greatly appreciated, so thank you!

ryansm said:
Well today I will sart with the bad news.

This cycle is getting out of hand, I had a severe increase in heartrate today during workout. My Bp got way out of hand 155/100.

I could certainly feel the pressure in my chest, even caused slight angina. I have to say this is absurd, I am taking everything under the sun to keep my bp low, but it is not happening. This is the first time I have ever encountered such a problem.

Waist 1/8 in smaller
chest same as last measurement
thigh 1/4 of an inch larger:blink:

weight 312 up 10 pounds

Workout
it was supposed to be around 75% but well that didn't happen

Snatch 100 x 4 120 x 3 140 x 2 145 x 1 150 x 1 155 x 1 160 x 1
Power clean 120 x 4 140 x 4 160 x 4 170 x 4 180 x 3:blink:

Oly Back squat (ATG) 180 x 6 220 x 5 240 x 5 280 x 3 300 x 3 320 x 3 340 x 3:blink:

So I tripled my previous max on cleans with power clean, if you do not know the difference clean is the full movement catching it at a lower height which means heavier lifts.

I managed to b squat almost 750 for three quite easy.

I must say this is by far the best hormone I have ever used for strength by far, incredible strength gains. But the sides are very very harsh, I can only imagine what damage I am causing.

What worries me worse is my cholesterol levels while my heart was under abnormal stress. Who know we shall see.

A little word of warning, those of you who do decide to use this, I would suggest the following.

3 months prior start Hawthorne Berry
1 month prior begin celery seed supplementation
1 week prior take twinlab blood pressure control
Increase potassium intake to around 5 grams daily taking your larger dose pre/post workout
Also add in some type of slow absorbing magnesium for better uptake of the k. I use a brand called Slowmag, not cheap, but it is well worth it.

Use all of these during, and throughout post cycle.
 
Thanks guys, I wonder sometimes why I do this, and I compete. I can't imagine pushing myself this far on a recreational level, something to think about. I am not judging anyone, hell I am the last one to do so, but the fact of the matter is when you think about the negatives is it worth it?

I am in one of those moods if you couldn't tell.;)
 
Aren't these new orals really powerful? I haven't done real gear, but how could it be even stronger than this stuff? I mean not just this one, but SD, PP, etc.

You're one for telling it true, Ryan...
 
ryansm said:
Thanks guys, I wonder sometimes why I do this, and I compete. I can't imagine pushing myself this far on a recreational level, something to think about. I am not judging anyone, hell I am the last one to do so, but the fact of the matter is when you think about the negatives is it worth it?

I am in one of those moods if you couldn't tell.;)

Do you plan on stayin on it for the full 4 weeeks bro?

Hows the feeling like **** coming? Any better or the same?
 
Grunt76 said:
Aren't these new orals really powerful? I haven't done real gear, but how could it be even stronger than this stuff? I mean not just this one, but SD, PP, etc.

You're one for telling it true, Ryan...

Yes they are pwerful, tren is already a strong hormone, methyl-tren is one of the strongest and harshest, so the consensus is that this particular one is very strong.
 
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