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Methoxy-Trn log

ryansm said:
I use it during pct for palpatations, control of my heart rate, etc. . . Due to the onset of anxiety during pct, potassium is a good cardio depressant.
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AAahhh ok, very interesting, thanks bro.
 
Day 6

Today's workout
~85%

Hip Snatch 60 x 3 80 x 3 100 x 2 110 x 2 for 2 additional sets

Hang snatch 90 x 3 110 x 3 120 x 2 for 3 additional sets

Snatch pull to explode 110 x 4 120 x 4 140 x 4 for four additional sets

Strength was good today, although I have felt lethargic all day. I am starting to feel like I would on m1t, very tired, and just feeling like **** all day. Bp is 132/74

My recovery is a lot better than normal, and I can get focused for a lift much easier.
 
awesome log bro, how has your appetite been thus far? I know M1T made it pretty tough to eat sometimes.
 
Good question, my appetite is insane. I eat, and I am hungry again 15 minutes later. I have also noticed slight body comp changes as far as fat is concerned. It is too early to assess the reasons, but we shall see if it is the MeO-tren.
 
Sorry for not posting yesterday, but I was too busy.

Anyway today's workout:
~85%
Snatch pull with pause 110 x 4 130 x 4 150 x 4
Power Cleans 100 x 4 130 x 4 150 x 2 170 x 2
Oly B squat (ATG) 120 x 6 180 x 5 220 x 5 260 x 5 280 x 3

Strength was really good today, I am still working within projected weights, but they are easier than expected. 600 on squats was a breeze, I could have pushed it over 700 for reps but I kept it back. The most notable affect thus far is recuperation, I do not get tired during my workouts at all. This is saying a lot as I train very hard, and very heavy and normally I am drained by the workouts end. Sleep is getting better, but I am still having a hard time actually falling asleep.

As far as suppression, I am definitely shut down, Although I feel really good, and really energetic. It kicks in fast, and it comes strong.

On to the problems, my BP has slowly been rising even though I am taking Hawthorne Berry and celery seed extract. Also I had an instance where my heartrate got too elevated after some heavy squats. I am going to raise my potassium intake, and consult another means to tackle the bp issue.

BP 140/80

calories: ~ 4,500 protein ~400
 
has there been any noticable body composition changes that you can contribute to the MEO-TRN thus far?

Good endurance sounds nice. i know you dont expect much as far as weight changes but have you kept track thus far? and is there anything of note that you think might be a result of the MEO-TRN?

thanks again.
 
I will post weight weekly, and also measurements. I have noticed a slight hardening effect, and it is not just better endurance, but the CNS, and muscle capacity is greatly increased. I am sure this would equate to nice gains for a bb'er as you would recover quickly, and be able to push that much harder. Again it is only day 8, and the MeO-tren is already showing very promising effects. It is a very strong hormone thus far which I am sure will rear its ugly head come bloodwork time.
 
jshin said:
Jesus 8 days, the BP issue has me a little worried. Do you do any cardio at all?
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Cardio is limited, but my bp is normally in the 115-120 over 58-66 range, so it is certainly elevated.
 
ryansm said:
I will post weight weekly, and also measurements. I have noticed a slight hardening effect, and it is not just better endurance, but the CNS, and muscle capacity is greatly increased. I am sure this would equate to nice gains for a bb'er as you would recover quickly, and be able to push that much harder. Again it is only day 8, and the MeO-tren is already showing very promising effects. It is a very strong hormone thus far which I am sure will rear its ugly head come bloodwork time.
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wow thats great news, just hope things turns out better then expected come bloodwork. Have you tried Phera Plex Ryan? and if so how does this compare for strength?
 
I have not tried PP, but I did use Emax. So far the MeO-tren is much stronger. I would love to run this with some Test.:twisted:
 
ryansm said:
I have not tried PP, but I did use Emax. So far the MeO-tren is much stronger. I would love to run this with some Test.:twisted:
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you think that a 4-AD trans would be a nice stack?
 
I'm sure the methoxy-trn with 400 mg/day 4-AD would be great.
(Think tren + test prop that alot of folks run.)
 
ryansm said:
I use it during pct for palpatations, control of my heart rate, etc. . . Due to the onset of anxiety during pct, potassium is a good cardio depressant.
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How much additional potassium do you use?
 
ryansm said:
I have not tried PP, but I did use Emax. So far the MeO-tren is much stronger. I would love to run this with some Test.:twisted:
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:lol: What i plan on running exactly my friend. But with test enanth and test prop( at the end )! Now since ur on this Ryan would you recommend i jumpstart a cycle witht his Meo Trn or add it say like 7-11 or somethin like that? 4-8? I dont wanna feel like crap and feel all lethargic and like i wanna nap all the time so im tryin to counteract this. Thanks bro product sounds great thus far. :dance:
 
3clipseGT said:
:lol: What i plan on running exactly my friend. But with test enanth and test prop( at the end )! Now since ur on this Ryan would you recommend i jumpstart a cycle witht his Meo Trn or add it say like 7-11 or somethin like that? 4-8? I dont wanna feel like crap and feel all lethargic and like i wanna nap all the time so im tryin to counteract this. Thanks bro product sounds great thus far. :dance:
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Do a short cycle(check AAS forum for thoughts) and use it the enitre time, front, middle and end. Problem solved. :)
 
jmh80 said:
I'm sure the methoxy-trn with 400 mg/day 4-AD would be great.
(Think tren + test prop that alot of folks run.)
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Throw in some Activate and we will be thinking on the same level :twisted:
 
jmh80 said:
I'm sure the methoxy-trn with 400 mg/day 4-AD would be great.
(Think tren + test prop that alot of folks run.)
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exactly. hmmmm sounds niiiiice. cant wait to see liver values on this.
 
Very likely, or big drops in blood sugar levels that methyls cause because they are such strong partitioning agents.

Probably all of the above and some stuff we don't even know about yet:think:
 
size said:
How much additional potassium do you use?
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I push it up to 5 grams, sometimes more. I also dose before workout to keep my BP down during strenuous lifts. It has worked nicely in the past.
 
bioman said:
Very likely, or big drops in blood sugar levels that methyls cause because they are such strong partitioning agents.

Probably all of the above and some stuff we don't even know about yet:think:
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I would agree with this, except my energy has been through the roof since the day I posted the lethargy. Not sure what caused the lethargy that day, but I did change up my diet slightly to incorporate more complex carbs, at more time throughout the day. I feel like I am on a decent dose of test.:head:

I will add that all though I have no bloodwork to back it I am certainly shutdown.
 
Rougly 50grams worth, I also added some simple carbs during workout. So all in all around 100 total.
 
Sup everyone. Hey ryansm i'm reading your log with great interest. I was wondering why you feel that you are completely shut down? What symptoms are you feeling that is letting you know? Seems like everything is going great and methoxy-trn is turning out to be VERY powerful. Just imagine if they would've released methoxy-tst to stack it with...
 
Well due to previous experience with cycles, and based somewhat on the fact that my nuts are the size of small grapes. I know this is not a determinant factor. There are other slight observations so far, but I will wait on judgement for these.
 
ryansm said:
and based somewhat on the fact that my nuts are the size of small grapes.
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OMG this part had me rollin on the ground. partly cause of the humor partly cause ive been there.

so this is day 9 now is it? any notice of any sides? any oily skin, acne, attitude changes? sounds to me to be a very potent strong compound and if it is lacking of any sides then that would be amazing news.

now i want my MEO-TRN:rant:
 
Have you experienced any night-sweats yet as common with real tren? Every log i've read ppl on tren sweat like AIDs victims:type:
 
Well today's BP is reading 138/76, I forgot to post it yeterday but it was similar from what I recall.

As far as any observations now on day 10, my sex drive is taking a beating, but other than that and the high BP I feel good.

Today is an off day, so I will have more on Monday.
 
That BP doesn't look super-bad to me, ryansm. What are your usual readings while on? For me, 135/70 is as low as I've seen while on...
 
ryansm said:
Cardio is limited, but my bp is normally in the 115-120 over 58-66 range, so it is certainly elevated.
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It isn't too bad, but as I stated my normal levels are really low. Also I am taking now three different measures/supps to combat it.
 
Alright, I know it's only 10 days in of 30, but what are your impressions right now?

Is this a buy or no buy at this point?
(I know we really need bloodwork to make that determination.....)
 
I will be buying it again most likely. So far it has been my favorite oral yet. However if blood work shows it to be as harsh as predicted then I will not be buying this again. Something tells me it is not going to be as bad as once thought.
 
What about dosage? You stated your weight at 302 taking 4.5 mg ED. Seems quite strong. If you weighed less, knowing how you feel, would you drop the amt of mg or dose EOD???
 
Possibly, I am very sensitive to hormone manipulation. I could dose m1t at 5mgs and see improvements and sides.
 
ryansm said:
I will be buying it again most likely. So far it has been my favorite oral yet. However if blood work shows it to be as harsh as predicted then I will not be buying this again. Something tells me it is not going to be as bad as once thought.
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Uh ok so what is your weight gain so far?
 
ryansm said:
I will be buying it again most likely. So far it has been my favorite oral yet. However if blood work shows it to be as harsh as predicted then I will not be buying this again. Something tells me it is not going to be as bad as once thought.
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If you can find it then, I think this will be sold out in no time.
 
bigblank69 said:
If you can find it then, I think this will be sold out in no time.
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you just gotta know where to look, or know the right people and youll still get it for a while.

So as far as the suggested profile for this supp and your personal feelings ont his ryan what is your guess for androgenicity and anabolism with this? more of one then the other? and what could its possible rating on the 100 scale?
 
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