M1P - Anabolic Progestin

The AI isn't going to be in the sample, I just asked LG to send out a bottle of Formadrol with it. Just take one cap per day, will keep you straight!

Dosing is this:

4oz bottle contains 120 servings which would mean 4 servings per day (1 full ml in the oral syringe) Shake Well! Hold under the tongue for 60 seconds then swish around the mouth and swallow.

Take in divided doses through out the day so it would look like this:

1 morning
1 prior to lunch
1 evening
1 before bed

Your math looks spot on. Thanks to LG for sending out the Formadrol! Once they decide on their progestin (whether they want it or not) they will have a log also.

I don't think we are going to be able to keep the M1P name though...any ideas for names?
 
Taurus Nut. said:
The AI isn't going to be in the sample, I just asked LG to send out a bottle of Formadrol with it. Just take one cap per day, will keep you straight!

Dosing is this:

4oz bottle contains 120 servings which would mean 4 servings per day (1 full ml in the oral syringe) Shake Well! Hold under the tongue for 60 seconds then swish around the mouth and swallow.

Take in divided doses through out the day so it would look like this:

1 morning
1 prior to lunch
1 evening
1 before bed

Your math looks spot on. Thanks to LG for sending out the Formadrol! Once they decide on their progestin (whether they want it or not) they will have a log also.

I don't think we are going to be able to keep the M1P name though...any ideas for names?
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Nice and as far as a name I am at a loss. How about
Bull Spit, taste the power of the bull!
Bullagen
Sub-P1 since it is sublingual.
Toro
 
EasyEJL said:
I keep blowing the end of my feeding window and extending it via beer or wine. sigh.
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I blew it last night! Weird night and I don't know whats going on but my appetite at time seems voracious. Maybe its something I'm taking. I extended last night with beer and then, when I could not sleep, really blew it at 1am. New day!
 
Taurus Nut. said:
Your math looks spot on. Thanks to LG for sending out the Formadrol! Once they decide on their progestin (whether they want it or not) they will have a log also.

I don't think we are going to be able to keep the M1P name though...any ideas for names?
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Big thanks to LG for assisting you with this!! I was thinking along the same lines as Kleen. I liked the Toro suggestion. Other than that, I'm drawing a blank.
 
I second the Toro name.. Sounds pimp!! Use my avatar for the labels!!!
 
So we know we'll be running form along w/ this. How about PCT? Is there anything you would recommend? I know you said the DA-GCG would be a good addition. Torem? Nolva? Just curious. Tryin to get my stuff all lined out.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
"Matador"
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Wait isn't the Matadors job to kill the bull? It is just getting started and someone already wants to kill the bull! Poor Taurus, Must be a bitch to be a grain fed long horn on a bodybuilding site... There is already a mutiny amongst the ranks! A plant to kill the bull!
 
Or that Taurus is building killers!
 
AE14 said:
How about a reference to the Minotaur in the name?
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YES!!! It is what I am using as my avi..I think a minotaur would be cool to use as the symbol of the PH line.

A half human half beast hybrid warrior! Can call it Taurobol

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AE14 said:
exactly....great image :)
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lol.. I think I was a little excessive with the pics but I really feel the minotaur would be good. I have been rocking it in my avi ever since becoming a rep

I got an idea of drawling a minotaur deadlifting.. maybe I will sketch it up tonight and post it.
 
JudoJosh said:
YES!!! It is what I am using as my avi..I think a minotaur would be cool to use as the symbol of the PH line.

A half human half beast hybrid warrior! Can call it Taurobol

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Uhm is that "Gay Porn Minotaur" there? Grab the bull by the horns. No wait I think he likes it...
 
On another site my avatar is a minotaur and my signature reads

I always wanted to look like a Greek statue, I just never realized it would be a minotaur.
 
I like the minotaur idea but I think it would be a good idea to avoid including "bol" "drol" or anything like that in the name.

or as you come up with more products you could name them after other mythical beasts as well.
 
just call it tnp, taurus nutrition progestin.
 
What about
Gyno-drol
Boops-booster
Titts-pumper?

Lool, sorry, sorry, I couldn't avoid it! Just jolking... Hehehe
 
Whatever you decide to call it is fine. Maybe we should use it first and then name it. Either way this should be fun. For now let's call it Project Gump because it is "Kind of like a box of chocolates... You never know what you are gonna get... "
 
anbes said:
What about
Gyno-drol
Boops-booster
Titts-pumper?

Lool, sorry, sorry, I couldn't avoid it! Just jolking... Hehehe
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great post-thanks for contributing to the thread-NOT.


please explain what just 'jolking' means....hehehe
 
Taurus Nut. said:
Madol aromatizes
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Wat.

Taurus Nut. said:
No real offence but all you've shown is that you don't understand steroids very well at all. How about you get some knowledge and then come back and talk. Go over to bb.com where your kind are respected...
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Quite rude, and ironic coming from someone who just asserted that madol aromatises.

Taurus Nut. said:
Study showing the differences of DHT to DHN and that DHN is a less androgenic steroid which causes it to induce gyno symptoms by reducing the pool of DHT a KNOWN preventative agent against gyno.
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Nope, the study shows that DHN has a lower RBA than N, whereas DHT has a higher RBA than test.

Taurus Nut. said:
The reason Deca causes gyno is because of DHN being about 1/2 the androgenic activity of DHT. Nothing at all to do with it being a progestin IMHO. So, Judojosh is right, they are progestins as well as androgens.
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Again, what you are saying is supportive of what you're saying doesn't actually support it at all. Just because DHN is less androgenic than DHT doesn't mean that it's a progestin.


What is the active ingredient in this product?
 
I do believe that madol aromatises and here's why. You have a mix of 2 and 3 ene steroids in most Pheraplex mixes. Also, you will get natural flipping of the bond. I believe that the 3-ene version will convert to an estrogen. It's of course not well understood by anyone, and aromatase is a very complicated enzyme, but from the effects it seems to be the case. I don't think anyone really knows to be sure, but Pheraplex products seem to be "wet" so it could be it has estrogenic activity on it's own or that it aromatizes like I believe. Of course, you know everything so why bother explaining myself.

I am not sure I follow you here "Again, what you are saying is supportive of what you're saying doesn't actually support it at all. Just because DHN is less androgenic than DHT doesn't mean that it's a progestin."

Two distinct concepts here. Concept 1 - Progesterone doesn't cause gyno. Concept 2 - The reason you get gyno with Deca is because of DHN

It has nothing to do with being a progestin, it's just less androgenic that's it, no progestional effects were mentioned.

I explain something over and over in as many ways as possible. I post references showing that DHT is anti-gynocomastic and how if you introduced a competitive steroid for DHT (namely DHN) and shut down the substrate for DHT (namely Testosterone) you will have a LACK of DHT, thus causing your gyno.

I don't know much else I can do. You clearly are not accepting nor understanding the concept. If you disagree, then fine we can just move on but it seems that you just don't quite understand. Either way, why don't you scoot back to your own forum.
 
It's simple logic:

The theory was put on the table "Progestins Cause Gyno"

After a literature search numerous times and multiple threads showing that in fact progesterone actually reduces gyno, I disagree with that statement.

The counter point "Deca, which can act as a progestin causes gyno more than test which does not act as a progestin" was offered

To which I replied the more likely scenerio "Although Deca is a progestin agonist and seems to cause gyno more than testosterone, the alternative theory with much more scientific basis is that DHN is causing the gyno and nothing to do with the progestin effect" was offered. This is further supported by the knowledge that Trenbolone, which is a stronger progestin than even progesterone does not cause "tren ****" or "gyno" for the vast majority of people. This would be due to the fact that Trenbolone doesn't convert to a 5aR form and since it is already more androgenic than DHT and Testosterone it counters the loss of DHT.

Unless you have some literature proof that would make the progestin argument stronger, I conclude that I am more likely to be correct than you are. Thus I am not at all worried that ANY progestin compounds that we produce will cause gyno. Additionally, since my Methyl 1-P was a progestin and we had not 1 case of gyno in over 100,000 bottles I feel even more comfortable with my determination and that certainly lends support.

Anyone folllowing this?
 
Taurus Nut. said:
It's simple logic:

The theory was put on the table "Progestins Cause Gyno"

After a literature search numerous times and multiple threads showing that in fact progesterone actually reduces gyno, I disagree with that statement.

Anyone folllowing this?
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The abstract you posted suggested that progesterone reduces lactation. That isn't the same as reducing gyno.
 
henryv said:
You didn't answer my question.
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obviously he is not ready to release that info, yet.

in all honesty i think eric has been very thorough in answering questions, even to the point of redundancy.
 
No, what I said numerous times was that I, along with Seth covered this in about 3-4 other threads with full literature support etc... To be honest, I am not going through that again since it was a lot of work to shut up a person who is just trying to pick a fight and finding these earlier threads won't be easy since the number of threads that mention progestrone is quite large.

Progesterone reduces the effects of estrogen by downregulating the ER. If I was so inclined to dig up these old threads I would but it would take several hours of my time and I am studying for law school. If you care so much then you do it, look up LG Sciences and Progesterone and you will find them...

Like anything, progesterone and progestins are hormones and must be respected. It is not without it's side effects and nothing is 100% safe in every person. Even steroids like superdrol cause gyno in some people and no one is 100% sure why. Superdrol should in all respects reduce gyno, but in some men it alters something (Seth thinks SHBG) that may cause gyno. This isn't common but certainly possible. Men should be over 21 of course in good health and not be prone to gyno.
 
Taurus Nut. said:
Like anything, progesterone and progestins are hormones and must be respected. It is not without it's side effects and nothing is 100% safe in every person. Even steroids like superdrol cause gyno in some people and no one is 100% sure why. Superdrol should in all respects reduce gyno, but in some men it alters something (Seth thinks SHBG) that may cause gyno. This isn't common but certainly possible. Men should be over 21 of course in good health and not be prone to gyno.
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Well said man. I have used full blown Progesterone in my cycles before with fantastic results. I love having a little of it in my stack. A truly solid addition to the anabolic players. I think the key, as you mentioned, is that everyone responds a little differently and there are always exceptions to the rules. There is no exact science in any of this world of hormones that we play in. We understand a lot if it, but there is just as much, if not more, that we don't fully understand. Such is life.

What works for me is what works for me. But let me tell you, progesterone does work in a very real, anabolic, way. That's from my experience of course, the studies your after Eric already pointed you towards.
 
Not particularly related at all, but i've heard more than a few people mention nootropic benefits from transdermal pregnenelone rubbed onto the temples, and keep considering trying that.
 
Yes, most of these are also Neurosteroids as well. When we sold Methyl 1-P we had one guy write a page long letter explaining that M1P cured his depression when nothing else would work. They should help increase focus and energy in the gym!
 
got the package today. 1 bottle of progestin and 1 formadrol. My question is...with the dosing scheme of 1ml 4x per day, is there a way alter that around work? Its not a big deal, and I most certainly can follow it, just curious if there was another dosing protocol?
 
You can dose at any time, but the 4 split is the optimal way... You could also do

1 upon waking
1 at 8am
1 at 5pm
1 before bed
 
Sweet!! So I should be receiving mine w/in the next dAy or so!! Can't wait to get this started!!!
 
I thought they were sending 2 bottles out. Oh well, no big deal we shall see what it can do. I am ready to get going.
 
cool deal...thanks for the clarification

edit: how many servings is in the bottle we received?
 
Whem I get home today, my parents woll be there. I havem't seen them since last summer... Is it wrong that I'm looking forward to seeing a package from Taurus more than seeing my parents??? :lol:
 
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