RickRock13
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Real nice DLs Kleen!! 
You would be correct if the damage that was done to my shoulder was tendon related. The only thing that was damaged was the cartilage on the top of my humerus. The likelyhood of me actually damaging that after 4 months with light weight is VERY LIMITED. However this soreness is in the supraspinatus and infraspinatus muscles of the rotator cuff which my ortho and the guy doing my dye injection both said were amazingly well conditioned at the time of my surgery. My shoulder joint was in so tight he had a hard time getting the dye in between the shoulder joint. He jokingly asked are you sure this is the shoulder your having an issue with, it definitely isn't a rotator cuff issue. I was like no I work them 3 times a week just a little before every workout. Well my dumb azz got out of that practice of doing the external rotations. I was only doing the vertical external rotation, and when I started back up again I didn't notice that the cable crossover at the new gym started at 20 lbs instead of 10, so I basically went relatively heavy on something that hadn't been worked in a while. There really aren't many exercises that work that muscle indirectly so it can get out of condition pretty quickly. So basically the soreness has been from that and improving daily. However I kept training, so it would get sore again. I moved to lying on the bench to do them with a 10 lb DB for now. I will move up to 15 in a few weeks. I remembered theother day that I had a similiar issue about 6 months out from my last surgery and it was due to being very out of condition around that areas. I had to work to get it good to go, that and a cotrisone shot. Not doing that right now for sure. I will do another round of Alflutop before I entertain the idea of another cortisone shot.when shoulder is sore that means you may have pushed it too far. the tendons only can recover so fast right?
Thanks, it sure did. I did put up 365 for a set of 5 a while back just to get a little something going and no issue with shoulder then but decided to not push it, even though that is my nature. It is also what got me injured. Now 315 x15 is a much more impressive feat than 365x5.Oh yeah, and nice DL numbers Kleen. I bet it felt good to pull the 3 plates off the ground again
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Thanks! My best is 20 reps at 315, I could have pulled a few more reps for sure and the 20 were really explosive this time they were all deliberate pulls. I let the weight come to a dead stop for a second to release any stored tension then pulled smoothly off the floor.Real nice DLs Kleen!!![]()
I just want to say that this proposed ban would surely include DHEA. They've talked about that for years now.
And all you guys who love these "natty" hormonal products including the PP andro series, could kiss them all goodbye.
The darkside calls. :firedevil:
LMAO! If there were a Dark Side advocate you would be it! I love it, and I understand exactly where you are coming fro. Monetarily, Effectiveness wise and health wise AAS far outweigh the current things on the market designed for extreme muscle growth.
Yah 315 times 15 is significant, must of almost barfed up a lung... I hate high rep deads...
Thanks Doug! I was a little nauseous but not too bad. I was surprisingly more so after the widow maker on squats today however that is a much larger ROM for the legs so it makes sense.
I just want to say that this proposed ban would surely include DHEA. They've talked about that for years now.
And all you guys who love these "natty" hormonal products including the PP andro series, could kiss them all goodbye.
The darkside calls. :firedevil:
In other words the dark side is not so dark...
In other words the dark side is not so dark...
The only dark side of it is the legality issue in my opinion. I fail to see why a low dose of testosterone would not be an effective form of birth control considering female hormones are given in higher amounts as a form of birth control.
How many prescription drugs do we see with way worse side effects than steroids that have their own commercials for crying out loud. Could result in yada, yada, yada, including stroke or sudden death.... WAIT WHAT????? Fug it I will keep my arthritis pain!!!!
The only dark side of it is the legality issue in my opinion. I fail to see why a low dose of testosterone would not be an effective form of birth control considering female hormones are given in higher amounts as a form of birth control.
How many prescription drugs do we see with way worse side effects than steroids that have their own commercials for crying out loud. Could result in yada, yada, yada, including stroke or sudden death.... WAIT WHAT????? Fug it I will keep my arthritis pain!!!!
The great thing is that testosterone is NOT illegal. It's prescribed by more and more doctors all the time now. And you can dose a little more than the usual 200 mg. weekly that they advocate,
Most doctors are cool with that.
And just so you know, doctors are already prescribing testosterone for male birth control. It's actually safer than giving women estrogen. Estrogen can cause breast cancer, heart disease and strokes.
I heard about this several months ago.
You must be psychic. :Eyecrazy:
The great thing is that testosterone is NOT illegal. It's prescribed by more and more doctors all the time now. And you can dose a little more than the usual 200 mg. weekly that they advocate,
Most doctors are cool with that.
And just so you know, doctors are already prescribing testosterone for male birth control. It's actually safer than giving women estrogen. Estrogen can cause breast cancer, heart disease and strokes.
I heard about this several months ago.
You must be psychic. :Eyecrazy:
Wait, so I can get Test Cyp for birth control? Should I see an endocrinologist, or just regular doc? You've got me all excited now!!!
The great thing is that testosterone is NOT illegal. It's prescribed by more and more doctors all the time now. And you can dose a little more than the usual 200 mg. weekly that they advocate,
Most doctors are cool with that.
And just so you know, doctors are already prescribing testosterone for male birth control. It's actually safer than giving women estrogen. Estrogen can cause breast cancer, heart disease and strokes.
I heard about this several months ago.
You must be psychic. :Eyecrazy:
I'm already trying to win my wife over on letting me inject, and this news can only help as we have our next and LAST child to be due in June. I had planned on a vasectomy, but I like this idea much much better!!:yup:
J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2003 Feb;88(2):562-8.
A multicenter contraceptive efficacy study of injectable testosterone undecanoate in healthy Chinese men.
Gu YQ, Wang XH, Xu D, Peng L, Cheng LF, Huang MK, Huang ZJ, Zhang GY.
National Research Institute for Family Planning, Beijing 100081, China. [email protected]
Comment in:
J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2003 Feb;88(2):559-61.
Abstract
This report describes a Phase II, multicenter, contraceptive efficacy clinical trial using monthly injections of testosterone undecanoate (TU) alone at a dose of 500 mg in healthy Chinese men. Three hundred eight healthy men were recruited in six centers distributed throughout China. Volunteers underwent a control period with no treatment, then a 12-month treatment period including a 6-month suppression phase followed by a 6-month efficacy phase and a 12-month recovery period. During the suppression phase, an initial loading dose of 1000 mg TU, followed by 500 TU at monthly intervals were given until azoospermia or severe oligozoospermia was achieved, up to a maximum of six injections. During the efficacy phase, 500 mg TU were administered at monthly intervals for 6 months. Nine of 308 men did not achieve azoospermia or severe oligozoospermia (<3 x 10(6)/ml) within the 6-month suppression phase. This gave a methodological failure rate of 2.9/100 couple years (95% confidence interval of 1.0-4.8/100 couple years). Two hundred ninety-six men entered the efficacy phase. The continuation rate during the efficacy phase was 95/100 couple years. There were no pregnancies caused by men who achieved azoospermia or severe oligozoospermia. Reappearance of sperm occurred in six men during the efficacy phase, and one pregnancy was attributed to sperm rebound. This gave a secondary failure rate of 2.3/100 couple years (95% confidence interval of 0.5-4.2/100 couple years). Thus, the total failure rate was 5.2%, and total efficacy was 94.8%. Spermatogenesis in all subjects returned to the normal reference range within the recovery period. The mean serum testosterone concentration increased 131%, and the mean serum LH and FSH concentrations decreased 72% and 70%, respectively, after TU injections during the treatment period. The mean level of serum high density lipoprotein cholesterol decreased (14%), and the mean hematocrit increased 6% compared with baseline. No serious adverse events and no significant changes in serum chemistry occurred during the study. The results showed that monthly TU injection at a dose of 500 mg after an initial loading dose of 1000 mg can effectively, safely, and reversibly suppress spermatogenesis in healthy Chinese men without serious adverse effects.
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Don't have kids and not sure I want em........
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Don't have kids and not sure I want em........
Yeh I would say don't make up your mind just yet...I had the same attitude until I reached my 30s and my kids are the best decision I've ever made by far. Even though they drive me crazy 90% of the time. The other 10% is worth its weight in gold :yup:
The great thing is that testosterone is NOT illegal. It's prescribed by more and more doctors all the time now. And you can dose a little more than the usual 200 mg. weekly that they advocate,
Most doctors are cool with that.
And just so you know, doctors are already prescribing testosterone for male birth control. It's actually safer than giving women estrogen. Estrogen can cause breast cancer, heart disease and strokes.
I heard about this several months ago.
You must be psychic. :Eyecrazy:
Affirmation 1:
So yesterday morning before I started squatting I decided I wanted to get a look at my legs. I pull my shorts up and flex both of them real quick to catch a glimpse and drop the legs of the shorts back down, not trying to show off was just curious how it looked under gym lights. Well I saw striations in my right quad. Now typically they are both very seperated but I only have striations in my left quad. So I just had to pull the shorts back up and have a look to see if I was seeing things. Nope sure enough striations on my right quad, my legs are so seperated right now I could probably get on stage with these legs. They seem to be retaining size better during this cut too which may explain the striations in the right quad.
Affirmation 2:
I go to tan yesterday, I don't do it all the time but I will be out in the Texas sun ALL day May 1st and I need to have some sort of base tan or even with sunscreen I would burn badly and peel. The girl who works there sees me and just starts gushing. Oh my gosh Chris you look so lean. You have lost a lot of weight havent you? I said well I haven't lost too much but I am trying to lean out. She went on and on about how lean I was and how fast it was happening. She was so interested she even looked up the last time I was there that she was. She was all I saw you just a month ago and you look SO MUCH DIFFERENT!!!! You look so good I wish I could get lean that fast. I can't believe you cut up so fast.
NICE!!!!!!
Affirmation 3:
So I go stand near a mirror with overhead lighting last night at home, and try to see how my abs are coming along. I can see them pretty decently under the light. I mention to my son, Hey look son, I can actually see my abs when I stand under the right lighting. He shook his head, kind of rolled his eyes and laughed... I asked What? This was his repsonse. "Dad, you can see you abs now no matter where you stand. You can see them when you are just standing there..."
Here I am thinking that they can only be seen under perfect lighting conditions....
I LOVE LEAN GAINS!
Have I mentioned that yet? Lean Gains on the Left :kiss: Me on the right! :bigok: :bigok: :bigok:
Body Weight is currently 190, BF untested... If I get down to 185 I am gonna look awesome!
I am a little psychotic is that good enough?
I wonder if I can find a doctor willing to do that? Just have to make sure he doesn't know the wife can't get pregnant. Can't be my current one. Didn't your wife have a hysterectomy Mr. Tucker? LOL
Wow Chris I am so all over this after contest, can you imagine me getting down and then doing this diet at a recomp pace... I should be able to maintain 10%.... I will be a thorn in your side for a while with all the questions... not to worry I know the principle and have a general plan of 1 meal pre-workut at noon 2 meals after....
Definitely!Nice Chris!! Looks like lean gains is perfect for you, and I'm thinking its perfect for me too. Definitely a lifestyle change for the better!!
AMEN Brother!lean gains ftw!!!!
Oh I am going to have such a tough time not eating until the afternoon! UGH!
I hope it works like you say it does, where I'll stop getting hungry and fill up faster! I trust y'all, but I soooo like snacking!
Oh I am going to have such a tough time not eating until the afternoon! UGH!
I hope it works like you say it does, where I'll stop getting hungry and fill up faster! I trust y'all, but I soooo like snacking!
Oh I am going to have such a tough time not eating until the afternoon! UGH!
I hope it works like you say it does, where I'll stop getting hungry and fill up faster! I trust y'all, but I soooo like snacking!
Not quite as bad as you would think it would be. The hunger does come but its not bad until a couple hours before you break the fast. Like for me right now I feel like I could run a buffet out of business, but its less than 30 minutes til eating time!!:food:
Same here, however I am going to lift about an hour after my first meal today. I bet the pump is gonna be insane!
I think I mentioned this before but I started taking Bridge and T-Force together I have been noticing an increase in aggression, and some acne so I know it is working. Now tis skin just needs to catch up with my weight loss and I am going to look sick!!!!
Sounds like a pretty sick stack. T-force is a DAA product right? That should be nice with Bridge![]()
If its the one by omega it's a fadogia based test booster
Make sure to get in your aminos, how do your coaches feel about you changing things up in peak week? I would recommend if they have a strategy for peak week laid out that you follow it then get on lean gains. Also you need to contact the person in charge of the contest and find out when you will be in pre-judging if you don't already know. A morning fast will not do for a morning pre-judging at all.Yeah, I tried it today and it wasn't bad. I had a shake last night around 11:30PM, so I didn't eat until 3:30ish. The things that sucked was:
1. Fasted cardio this morning, 60 minutes of HIIT
2. Went to the gym around noon, 30 minutes or so of lifting
3. Posing practice for an hour
4. No good food around, so 1 chicken breast, protein bar, and protein shake.
Afterwards I got a Baja Bowl from Baja Fresh, with no rice and double chicken. The black beans were quite filling. Overall I felt stuffed after that.
I think I'll keep this protocol up for peak week and see how it turns out. If I'm heading in the wrong direction, I'll adjust ASAP. I'm in good condition right now according to my coaches, so all I need to do is flush the water and keep lean!
Of course you are right.If its the one by omega it's a fadogia based test booster
I do have some DAA now that you mention it though.... HMMMMMMIf that's correct then that would be great too. I wasn't sure exactly...
Thanks Andres! I am forcing myself to change my mindset to someone who wants to continue to improve slowly, and gradually from here on out. add on a pound to the bar a week when close to my top range so I never push my joints and tendons faster than they can recover. I will switch to working things once a week if recovery slows. I have some more good years of progress because I have never been a person who chased weight progression. So I know I still have a lot of potential to be met in that area. I used more of a shock and intensity approach. With conservative but steady progression in weight I can continue to add muscle and will have many more points of adaptation.Excellent work Chris. Im am overjoyed to see how scientific and how methodical you are approaching your lifts. You are really taking the time to heal properly and get to the point where you can start hammering away like we know you want to.
Thanks, yes I have really been concentrating on consistency with both training and diet. Even when I have my lenient diet days they are within the 8 hour window and not a second more.It looks like you have everything set and planned out nicely for your progression there Chris! Its pretty remarkable how quickly you have changed body composition through this recovery:bigok:
Thanks Andres! I am forcing myself to change my mindset to someone who wants to continue to improve slowly, and gradually from here on out. add on a pound to the bar a week when close to my top range so I never push my joints and tendons faster than they can recover. I will switch to working things once a week if recovery slows. I have some more good years of progress because I have never been a person who chased weight progression. So I know I still have a lot of potential to be met in that area. I used more of a shock and intensity approach. With conservative but steady progression in weight I can continue to add muscle and will have many more points of adaptation.
Thanks, yes I have really been concentrating on consistency with both training and diet. Even when I have my lenient diet days they are within the 8 hour window and not a second more.
Coming down to 2 weeks before Buzzfest, I am tempted to clean my diet up and pay more attention but I think I want to continue enjoying myself. It is working for me and I want to see what will happen without me changing it. Give the ultimate test of ease and effectiveness.
I don't have too much to add here, I ate a good bit this weekend adding more calories to my recovery day. Honestly I gained more size / fullness doing it this way than I did blasting down 6000 calories last Sunday doing a carb up.
I stepped on the scale yesterday and 198, nice boost and can still see my abs showing. Yesterday was lower carb but not non-existent and I had quite a bit of lean meats and some cottage cheese. I made a few Jerk Ground Turkey patties last night to eat at work. Add those in to my Lean Round Steaks, and I am really enjoying the food.
Today I will smash some carbs the first few hours after breaking the fast and then taper off.
Todays workout I ended up doing BB Incline Bench instead of the Hammer Strength machine. It actually felt really good. Although I stopped my second set short of 15 to make sure I did not lose form. Still really watching out for that shoulder. No need to take any chances.
Still working 15 reps, any set with different reps will have listed next to the weight.
BB Incline Bench - 95, 135, 140x12
Donkey Calve Raise Machine 190, 190 just pumping them up. Decided to replace one of the shoulder days with calves. Keeps the wife's legs looking shapely.![]()
Leg Press - 4 plates, 10 plates, 12 plates, 12 plates +30 lbs 20 lb increase from last week. These are done feet low on the platform to focus on quads. I can easily jump in weight here but slow progression will allow for me opportunity for growth via extra adaptation points.
Hoping to see some nice abs coming in later this week. Once some of the water from the weekend is flushed I normally see a nice improvement.