KLEEN LIVING - A log about Life, Training, and Nutrition.

Dustin07 said:
With the success in August, think you could find a sponsor???



it's been inspirational!
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Honestly, I have no idea where I would even look for a sponsor. I have a cousin, and a friend who own businesses and could probably sponsor me. However I would feel like I was putting them in a position to ask because they may feel obligated due to our relationship.

Did you ever have a sponsor, and if so how did you go about finding them?
love2liftkat said:
So very true! Thank you! I’ve needed the past few years to mentally clear my head and work through several things but I’m glad to be back on here!



It was almost 3 years ago. October 2021



That’s great your body is responding well! I 100% agree with @gphagan1 (and pretty much what everyone said too) trust your gut! You know your situation and all life entails better than anyone could- including the stressors to come. You have accomplished SO MUCH this past year and made incredible sacrifices- if you feel like taking a year to stay lean, build your business, and still be able to keep the family/life balanced as well as competing -with a less intense prep/category…then I’d say go for it! You could always do the masters BB category the next year. That would also give your body some time to adapt/overcome the stress it’s been through already. Priming you for a successful prep the following year.

I know very little about cars but I know we’ve had to replace the sensor on my son’s truck as well as some hoses if you haven’t already done that. We ended up having to replace the radiator as well later but figured I’d mention it just in case it helps. lol

Edit- I also forgot to say- I am pretty sure your coach will completely understand if you have to pause on using him a bit just to catch back up a bit.




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Yeah, I am going to rebound while on my TRT dose regardless trying to gains a little more size "naturally" IE... TRT dose, then can clean things up later. So it really comes down to how things are going, and maintaining lower body fat. Honestly dialed in this year I would have done well in Master's BB. and I definitely didn't look outsized or outclassed at the Pittsburgh show, I just came in spilled over, and made some rookie mistakes.

I think he will understand if that is the way we go. I believe we have become friends through all the time spent together during peak weeks and discussions throughout the year. My wife and I touched on it and are kind of feeling that out right now but the money points to needing to change something temporarily.
akboom87 said:
I’m sure that it can be a super tricky thing balancing all that out plus all of life’s just everyday stuff.

Seeing you post saying your gut is thinking classic, then I think you know that’s probably the route. I’d say either way man you are going to do great, you have already proven that. Sounds like it will make an improvement with balancing out home life and family time. Knowing what I know of ya that is a huge thing just like a lot of us family above all else.


Plus if you ever change your mind down the road you know you can do it and you will be in a better position.

Either way man you give 💯 and no doubt you will excel no matter the direction!
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Yeah, my gut is thinking that, but also not sure if I am just having a bit of n emotional reaction to the current stressors of life. So I will keep focusing on rebounding, and can make that decision a little later before we really start pushing the bulking.
Segansational said:
A lot to go back and review in more depth, but my quick responses generally would be:

1. If you can't cover the expense in a way that is longer term benefit for you/your family, talk to your coach about the situation and explain it's only a pause. I'm sure he'll understand hardship. And as you mentioned, if/when you're getting the competition itch again, bring him in specifically for prep only.
2. Classic: I'm actually interested in others opinions on this. I'm also assuming there is a Masters division here you can compete in? But generally, I find the look to be much more aesthetic. You have some good proportions and shape for sure, particularly i like that one hand ab shot. But Classic to me seems to be a different beast - particularly you see these men's physique guys moving to it. And I think it's because they have such wide, exaggerated v-shape and lat flare that the transition there helps to the eye of the judges. Plus we've talked a little about the vacuum which is almost a mandatory in that category. So it'd be a different posing and muscle targeting/growth exercise for you, which may or may not be a desire/strength for your current physique.

At the end of the day though, you have to do what feels right to you.
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1) Yeah, that is basically what it is starting to look like will happen. I have to discuss a little more with the wife. She is really just telling me to do what I think is best, but this is a decision I truly want her buy in on. It effects both of us, and is not anything I want coming back on me as this was your decision type of thing. I just hate to have to do it and feel bad taking money out of his pocket. He has told me how much it meant to him that I stuck to my guns and did the shows I said I was regardless of what obstacles got in my way. Out of 10 competitors this year he said Amanda and I are the only two that have actually competed, and the rest flaked on him a month or two before they were supposed to competed. He gets a lot of his clients from his competitors so it is a hit for him not having them competing.

2) I don't have an issue with the vacuum, when I train it I have a good vacuum, I just think it doesn't look that great in general. Wow you can suck in your stomach... Not impressed... I mean it is not easy if you haven't trained it, especially when not super lean but once lean it is not that hard if you pay a little attention to it, and train it.

I think the real reason for that with the Physique guys is that they are the catch all for competitors. Not big enough for classic, grow in physique, too big for classic but not quite ready for open, physique... Great upper body and not so great legs... physique. So the smaller guys who want to be body builders roll from there to classic to open. The taller guys with great upper bodies but need a lil something on the legs... physique. It is just where you go if you don't quite fit in anywhere else. Not saying many of the guys are not built amazingly and some of the pretty damn big but but most of them are working toward something else.

I think I will make my decision about classic in a couple months. Allow myself to take advantage of rebounding first then see where I am and decide what would need to be done for Masters BB, and what would need to be done for classic. If it comes down to having to lose muscle I may not. Also if the rebound goes really well, and I put on enough size that I won't have to push gear or food ridiculously to come in very competitive then I might stay in Masters BB. I will say for sure, that I have zero intentions of moving up a weight class.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Honestly, I have no idea where I would even look for a sponsor. I have a cousin, and a friend who own businesses and could probably sponsor me. However I would feel like I was putting them in a position to ask because they may feel obligated due to our relationship.

Did you ever have a sponsor, and if so how did you go about finding them?
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yes quite a few. Local bike shop and through them large bike manufacturer. I ran Redlines and Torkers and ended up getting new frames every year, and every time I broke them. That sponsorship came organically cause we spent so much at the bike shop next thing I new I was on their team (which upped my own accountability to ride harder, and ride local, lots of broken bones came from that) and their manager was the rep for the manufacturer so the homie hookups were wild.

I also had sponsorships from parts manufacturers that I had to earn the old fashioned way, writing letters, making phone calls, telling them who I was what I had done and what I was planning to do. that actually worked out!

lastly, I did go door to door to local businesses and picked up additional sponsors to cover entry fees for events/races as well.

For you I could see supplement shops, and athletics apparel, etc. Grind Athletics is my favorite fitting shirts right now. I'd be straight up with sponsors, tell them what you need per month, tell them about your victory in august, who your coach is, and what your plans are for 2025 as well as the fact that you're a daily logger, picking up your own clientele etc.

it takes a village! 🤘

MrKleen73 said:
I think the real reason for that with the Physique guys is that they are the catch all for competitors. Not big enough for classic, grow in physique, too big for classic but not quite ready for open, physique... Great upper body and not so great legs... physique.
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you had me at legs, and also board shorts 😅
 
MrKleen73 said:
Honestly, I have no idea where I would even look for a sponsor. I have a cousin, and a friend who own businesses and could probably sponsor me. However I would feel like I was putting them in a position to ask because they may feel obligated due to our relationship.

Did you ever have a sponsor, and if so how did you go about finding them?

Yeah, I am going to rebound while on my TRT dose regardless trying to gains a little more size "naturally" IE... TRT dose, then can clean things up later. So it really comes down to how things are going, and maintaining lower body fat. Honestly dialed in this year I would have done well in Master's BB. and I definitely didn't look outsized or outclassed at the Pittsburgh show, I just came in spilled over, and made some rookie mistakes.

I think he will understand if that is the way we go. I believe we have become friends through all the time spent together during peak weeks and discussions throughout the year. My wife and I touched on it and are kind of feeling that out right now but the money points to needing to change something temporarily.

Yeah, my gut is thinking that, but also not sure if I am just having a bit of n emotional reaction to the current stressors of life. So I will keep focusing on rebounding, and can make that decision a little later before we really start pushing the bulking.

1) Yeah, that is basically what it is starting to look like will happen. I have to discuss a little more with the wife. She is really just telling me to do what I think is best, but this is a decision I truly want her buy in on. It effects both of us, and is not anything I want coming back on me as this was your decision type of thing. I just hate to have to do it and feel bad taking money out of his pocket. He has told me how much it meant to him that I stuck to my guns and did the shows I said I was regardless of what obstacles got in my way. Out of 10 competitors this year he said Amanda and I are the only two that have actually competed, and the rest flaked on him a month or two before they were supposed to competed. He gets a lot of his clients from his competitors so it is a hit for him not having them competing.

2) I don't have an issue with the vacuum, when I train it I have a good vacuum, I just think it doesn't look that great in general. Wow you can suck in your stomach... Not impressed... I mean it is not easy if you haven't trained it, especially when not super lean but once lean it is not that hard if you pay a little attention to it, and train it.

I think the real reason for that with the Physique guys is that they are the catch all for competitors. Not big enough for classic, grow in physique, too big for classic but not quite ready for open, physique... Great upper body and not so great legs... physique. So the smaller guys who want to be body builders roll from there to classic to open. The taller guys with great upper bodies but need a lil something on the legs... physique. It is just where you go if you don't quite fit in anywhere else. Not saying many of the guys are not built amazingly and some of the pretty damn big but but most of them are working toward something else.

I think I will make my decision about classic in a couple months. Allow myself to take advantage of rebounding first then see where I am and decide what would need to be done for Masters BB, and what would need to be done for classic. If it comes down to having to lose muscle I may not. Also if the rebound goes really well, and I put on enough size that I won't have to push gear or food ridiculously to come in very competitive then I might stay in Masters BB. I will say for sure, that I have zero intentions of moving up a weight class.
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This sounds like a good logical plan, because after all you don’t have to rush any decisions, and whichever way you choose to go you still have to continue to train and eat properly to build and cut either way, so basically the same path with maybe some adjustments along the way if changes are necessary. And I firmly believe having patience in making a decision, if you’re not pushed for time, allows you to consider everything and then go all out in whichever direction works for you and your family. Either way it’s obvious your dedication and resolve, that we’ve all seen, will lead to success.
As far as sponsors, I think that’s a great idea, and I think Dustin’s thinking of hitting up local shops and shows is good, as well as increasing your online presence. There are a lot of good articles out there with good advice…..this is on Generation Iron, and they have a company, National Bodybuilding Inc, that are looking for all levels of competitors to sponsor…..it might be of interest…..

generationiron.com

How To Get Your First Bodybuilding Sponsorship

It’s an uphill journey – we’re going to try and help make it a little easier. In order to become a pro bodybuilder, much time and dedication must be given towards training, dieting, and posing. It’s such a dedication, in fact, that for many it is almost impossible to maintain a job and at the...
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Oh and tell your coach how highly you think of him and tell him you have a good following on this forum that appreciates and respects his work, because of what you have said about him and how fast he helped you build a top level physique….you’ve been his best advertisement on here.💪😎
 
Dustin07 said:
yes quite a few. Local bike shop and through them large bike manufacturer. I ran Redlines and Torkers and ended up getting new frames every year, and every time I broke them. That sponsorship came organically cause we spent so much at the bike shop next thing I new I was on their team (which upped my own accountability to ride harder, and ride local, lots of broken bones came from that) and their manager was the rep for the manufacturer so the homie hookups were wild.

I also had sponsorships from parts manufacturers that I had to earn the old fashioned way, writing letters, making phone calls, telling them who I was what I had done and what I was planning to do. that actually worked out!

lastly, I did go door to door to local businesses and picked up additional sponsors to cover entry fees for events/races as well.

For you I could see supplement shops, and athletics apparel, etc. Grind Athletics is my favorite fitting shirts right now. I'd be straight up with sponsors, tell them what you need per month, tell them about your victory in august, who your coach is, and what your plans are for 2025 as well as the fact that you're a daily logger, picking up your own clientele etc.

it takes a village! 🤘


you had me at legs, and also board shorts 😅
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Right, I could probably do that. At least check in with my regular supplement store at a minimum.

Maybe it's time to put these feet to work for me, on Feetonly.com or something. Make some quick money off of some fetishists. LMAO! Wait, so you want me to Squeeze a banana with my bare feet until it pops out the top? Uhm... that's gonna cost you... LMAO

I can see where people might hop on that for biking even if not super into biking but bodybuilding is so niche, I don't see it as something most random businesses would be interested in. So as you said probably supplement stores and that's about it.
 
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Oh yeah by the way I am being put on the Trophy Fitness Newsletter for the gym across the street that goes to all the members of all of the Trophy Fitness Gyms. They made me the member of the month or 1/4 took my pic and a few of the pics from the show and having me send them how and what I used at the gym and how it benefited me during prep. Apparently it is kind of a big deal for this location to have a submission approved for member for the month because it is one of the smaller gyms in their chain. Not a huge deal, but still pretty cool.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Right, I could probably do that. At least check in with my regular supplement store at a minimum.
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so even thinking small time here if coaching is $200/month 4 sponsors that committed to $50/month each for 6 or 12 months cover that.... heck even if they can just get you some swag it covers your training costs. I have mentioned how much I love Grind Athletics, their shirts are the best fitting I've ever had, I'd love to promote their stuff if I was in that position.

MrKleen73 said:
Maybe it's time to put these feet to work for me, on Feetonly.com or something. Make some quick money off of some fetishists. LMAO! Wait, so you want me to Squeeze a banana with my bare feet until it pops out the top? Uhm... that's gonna cost you... LMAO
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My wife and I were joking about finances one time and she said maybe it's time to get cracking on her onlyfriends account (she meant onlyfans) I just about died laughing so now it's our ongoing joke, 😅 😅

ironically now I think there is another one called onlyfriends? I Have no idea what it is though, if it's the same pr0n or something else, but my wifes slip cracked me up 😅😅

MrKleen73 said:
Oh yeah by the way I am being put on the Trophy Fitness Newsletter for the gym across the street that goes to all the members of all of the Trophy Fitness Gyms. They made me the member of the month or 1/4 took my pic and a few of the pics from the show and having me send them how and what I used at the gym and how it benefited me during prep. Apparently it is kind of a big deal for this location to have a submission approved for member for the month because it is one of the smaller gyms in their chain. Not a huge deal, but still pretty cool.
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very cool! and good info for your prospective sponsors!
 
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Chest & Biceps (Monday)
Tuesday, Sep 17, 2024 at 5:43pm

Incline Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 190 lbs x 9 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 170 lbs x 11 @ 9 rpe

Iso-Lateral Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 150 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 145 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 3: 145 lbs x 8 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 4: 115 lbs x 5 @ 10 rpe [Drop]
Set 5: 85 lbs x 4 @ 10 rpe [Drop]

Bench Press (Cable)
Set 1: 50 lbs x 13 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 42.5 lbs x 7 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 35 lbs x 12 @ 9.5 rpe

Chest Fly (Dumbbell)
"Bottom 2/3 reps to stay in stretch"
Set 1: 20 lbs x 14 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 10 @ 10 rpe

Lying Dumbbell Curls
Set 1: 20 lbs x 12 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 10 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 8 @ 10 rpe

Bicep Curl (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 20 lbs x 9 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 9 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 9 @ 9.5 rpe

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Legs - (Tuesday)
Wednesday, Sep 18, 2024 at 8:44pm

Leg Press (Machine)
Set 1: 480 lbs x 12 @ 7 rpe 9 (Slower tempo to hit desired RIR)
Set 2: 570 lbs x 10 @ 7.5 rpe (Slower tempo to hit desired RIR)
Set 3: 660 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe (Semi-Explosive with 1-2 second negative slight pause in bottom from here on out)
Set 4: 660 lbs x 10 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 5: 660 lbs x 6 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 6: 480 lbs x 15 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 7: 480 lbs x 12 @ 9.5 rpe

Decided with limited time killing legs with leg press was the best option. Sore today so it worked...

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Shoulders & Triceps (Thurs)
Thursday, Sep 19, 2024 at 3:20pm

Seated Overhead Press (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 55 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 55 lbs x 11 @ 9 rpe

Standing Lateral Raise
Set 1: 20 lbs x 20 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 13 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 4: 15 lbs x 15 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Incline DB Rear Delt Flyes
Set 1: 20 lbs x 20 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 25 lbs x 20 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 25 lbs x 19 @ 10 rpe

Cross Cable Tricep Extension
Set 1: 40 lbs x 15 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 45 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 50 lbs x 13 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Triceps Dip (Assisted)
"Last set wide grip"
Set 1: 40 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 70 lbs x 16 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 70 lbs x 15 @ 10 rpe

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I can’t “like” anything right now & haven’t been getting updates, but I “like” the last week of posts 😂

Explain to your coach the financial situation, that you will be back for prep. OR, if he has some clients YOU could help him with in exchange for his continued coaching. Kind of a mentorship situation where you do some coaching under him, off his name that he’s attracted, in exchange for his help. You get offseason help, you learn the ropes some, he gets a reduction of less critical work. I’m talking with newer or simpler client cases, not someone in prep.

Vaping will absolutely raise your bp, significantly.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Shoulders & Triceps (Thurs)
Thursday, Sep 19, 2024 at 3:20pm

Seated Overhead Press (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 55 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 55 lbs x 11 @ 9 rpe

Standing Lateral Raise
Set 1: 20 lbs x 20 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 13 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 4: 15 lbs x 15 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Incline DB Rear Delt Flyes
Set 1: 20 lbs x 20 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 25 lbs x 20 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 25 lbs x 19 @ 10 rpe

Cross Cable Tricep Extension
Set 1: 40 lbs x 15 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 45 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 50 lbs x 13 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Triceps Dip (Assisted)
"Last set wide grip"
Set 1: 40 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 70 lbs x 16 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 70 lbs x 15 @ 10 rpe
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this is the kind of pr0n I come here for

MrKleen73 said:
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it's actually pretty great! I have had some issues with drying out/clumping but even digging it out with a spoon or whatever it disolves and I feel like has a good impact on the training session.

Hyde said:
I can’t “like” anything right now & haven’t been getting updates, but I “like” the last week of posts
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it's killing my OCD. I don't even know how to forum if I can't subtly acknowledge a post with an emoji.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Chest & Biceps (Monday)
Tuesday, Sep 17, 2024 at 5:43pm

Incline Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 190 lbs x 9 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 170 lbs x 11 @ 9 rpe

Iso-Lateral Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 150 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 145 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 3: 145 lbs x 8 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 4: 115 lbs x 5 @ 10 rpe [Drop]
Set 5: 85 lbs x 4 @ 10 rpe [Drop]

Bench Press (Cable)
Set 1: 50 lbs x 13 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 42.5 lbs x 7 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 35 lbs x 12 @ 9.5 rpe

Chest Fly (Dumbbell)
"Bottom 2/3 reps to stay in stretch"
Set 1: 20 lbs x 14 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 10 @ 10 rpe

Lying Dumbbell Curls
Set 1: 20 lbs x 12 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 10 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 8 @ 10 rpe

Bicep Curl (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 20 lbs x 9 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 9 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 9 @ 9.5 rpe

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Legs - (Tuesday)
Wednesday, Sep 18, 2024 at 8:44pm

Leg Press (Machine)
Set 1: 480 lbs x 12 @ 7 rpe 9 (Slower tempo to hit desired RIR)
Set 2: 570 lbs x 10 @ 7.5 rpe (Slower tempo to hit desired RIR)
Set 3: 660 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe (Semi-Explosive with 1-2 second negative slight pause in bottom from here on out)
Set 4: 660 lbs x 10 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 5: 660 lbs x 6 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 6: 480 lbs x 15 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 7: 480 lbs x 12 @ 9.5 rpe

Decided with limited time killing legs with leg press was the best option. Sore today so it worked...

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Shoulders & Triceps (Thurs)
Thursday, Sep 19, 2024 at 3:20pm

Seated Overhead Press (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 55 lbs x 12 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 55 lbs x 11 @ 9 rpe

Standing Lateral Raise
Set 1: 20 lbs x 20 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 13 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 4: 15 lbs x 15 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Incline DB Rear Delt Flyes
Set 1: 20 lbs x 20 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 25 lbs x 20 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 25 lbs x 19 @ 10 rpe

Cross Cable Tricep Extension
Set 1: 40 lbs x 15 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 45 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 50 lbs x 13 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Triceps Dip (Assisted)
"Last set wide grip"
Set 1: 40 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 70 lbs x 16 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 70 lbs x 15 @ 10 rpe

Workouts powered by
All Out Ultra - I have been enjoying this one I realized my BP was not related to the product but something else causing it to be elevated. Great focus, energy and pumps!
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Hyde said:
I can’t “like” anything right now & haven’t been getting updates, but I “like” the last week of posts 😂

Explain to your coach the financial situation, that you will be back for prep. OR, if he has some clients YOU could help him with in exchange for his continued coaching. Kind of a mentorship situation where you do some coaching under him, off his name that he’s attracted, in exchange for his help. You get offseason help, you learn the ropes some, he gets a reduction of less critical work. I’m talking with newer or simpler client cases, not someone in prep.

Vaping will absolutely raise your bp, significantly.
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Dustin07 said:
this is the kind of pr0n I come here for



it's actually pretty great! I have had some issues with drying out/clumping but even digging it out with a spoon or whatever it disolves and I feel like has a good impact on the training session.



it's killing my OCD. I don't even know how to forum if I can't subtly acknowledge a post with an emoji.
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I like all this…….
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……Had to make my on thumbs up 👍
 
Hyde said:
I can’t “like” anything right now & haven’t been getting updates, but I “like” the last week of posts 😂

Explain to your coach the financial situation, that you will be back for prep. OR, if he has some clients YOU could help him with in exchange for his continued coaching. Kind of a mentorship situation where you do some coaching under him, off his name that he’s attracted, in exchange for his help. You get offseason help, you learn the ropes some, he gets a reduction of less critical work. I’m talking with newer or simpler client cases, not someone in prep.

Vaping will absolutely raise your bp, significantly.
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Thanks, this situation has been resolved through the extreme kindness of someone who wants to see me succeed in this endeavor.

Yeah, I wish I hadn't picked it back up during prep. However, I have to say it got me through some days I was dragging horribly. So it served it's purpose but it is time to kick the habit.
Dustin07 said:
this is the kind of pr0n I come here for



it's actually pretty great! I have had some issues with drying out/clumping but even digging it out with a spoon or whatever it disolves and I feel like has a good impact on the training session.



it's killing my OCD. I don't even know how to forum if I can't subtly acknowledge a post with an emoji.
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Yeah Buddy!

Yeah, I am really enjoying it too. I just weigh it like @Hyde suggested and it works and mixes just fine. @delsolrob said it was from the high content of one of the ingredients that makes it so great but also makes it more likely to clump up. He obviously thought it was worth the inclusion already knowing it might cause that. So I have no complaints if that is a sacrifice being made for a better working product. It doesn't effect the taste and I am really enjoying the effects of it in my sessions.

LMAO Yeah, I am like how will they know I like this post or I was here if I don't have time or something worthy to add to the conversation.



gphagan1 said:
I like all this…….
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……Had to make my on thumbs up 👍
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I like the ingenuity!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Thanks, this situation has been resolved through the extreme kindness of someone who wants to see me succeed in this endeavor.

Yeah, I wish I hadn't picked it back up during prep. However, I have to say it got me through some days I was dragging horribly. So it served it's purpose but it is time to kick the habit.

Yeah Buddy!

Yeah, I am really enjoying it too. I just weigh it like @Hyde suggested and it works and mixes just fine. @delsolrob said it was from the high content of one of the ingredients that makes it so great but also makes it more likely to clump up. He obviously thought it was worth the inclusion already knowing it might cause that. So I have no complaints if that is a sacrifice being made for a better working product. It doesn't effect the taste and I am really enjoying the effects of it in my sessions.

LMAO Yeah, I am like how will they know I like this post or I was here if I don't have time or something worthy to add to the conversation.




I like the ingenuity!
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Just start smoking cigarettes like an adult.
 
man when they banned smoking in public places WA state it changed things forever out here. you went from it being a normal smell in the 80s and 90s to now it's really unpleasant when you do occasionally smell it, lol.
 
Dustin07 said:
man when they banned smoking in public places WA state it changed things forever out here. you went from it being a normal smell in the 80s and 90s to now it's really unpleasant when you do occasionally smell it, lol.
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Always smells pleasant to me.
 
Jimbabwe said:
Always smells pleasant to me.
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I actually like the smell of a freshly lit cigarette, but the stale smoke smell... UHMMMMM... Not so much. It is kind of like a cigar, if you are smoking it no problem, if someone else is smoking it not so great. LOL
 
I came back in a little too hot on training and went all balls to the wall from the jump. So, I decided to pull back on volume a little bit and keep effort high but avoid failure on most things. I want to give myself somewhere to go later in training without focusing on raising the weights all the time. I will be reinstating some rep ranges @ a given RIR goal as opposed to going for a set rep goal. Allow myself a little more auto regulation in training. I need this with my self abused body. When the number says 20 and there is no range, my mentality takes that as a challenge and leads me into a dark place where getting to that rep might take precedence over only working the muscle as hard as it needs to be to make continued progress.

There were several periods last year i was just treading water, not making gains in strength or reps, even some decline while I was at peak calories. So I know I was in a prolonged state of overreaching. I will also be adding in some deloads as I only had deloads if i was sick or in pain and it wasn't wise to train. I need a bit more of a scheduled thing or I tend to push until i don't have anything left to give then try to give more to get there. It's a mentality thing I was doing well working on previously and with my easily injured ass need to get back to paying more attention to.

Back & Hamstrings = Saturday, Sep 21, 2024 at 7:09pm

Seated Leg Curl (Machine)
Set 1: 60 lbs x 20 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 70 lbs x 15 @ 8 rpe
Set 3: 80 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 4: 60 lbs x 18 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Deadlift (Trap bar) - High handles
"Feeling out to see how my lower back and neck do with these. High handle..."
Set 1: 155 lbs x 15 @ 6 rpe
Set 2: 205 lbs x 15 @ 7 rpe - Performed slow and deliberately to maintain position and keep back safe.

Cable Flexion Rows
Set 1: 60 lbs x 20 @ 7.5 rpe
Set 2: 60 lbs x 16 @ 9 rpe

Reverse Grip High Row On Hammer Strength
Set 1: 70 lbs x 9 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 45 lbs x 13 @ 9 rpe

Arsenal Bilateral Lat Pulldown
Set 1: 45 lbs x 10 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 45 lbs x 9 @ 9.5 rpe
I had a great pump, and everything felt thoroughly worked. Seemed like the right amount of volume and intensity for the session.

I was also VERY happy with how the Trap bar Deads went. My upper back was YOKED THE F OUT when i was done with them, and glutes and hamstrings were worked quite well too with a nice proper hinging motion.

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Again, I lowered set volume here, and added some with higher rep schemes

Arms - Sunday, Sep 22, 2024 at 12:52pm
SuperSet 1: Triceps Pushdown / Lying DB Curls

Triceps Pushdown
Set 1: 100 lbs x 20 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 100 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe

Lying Dumbbell Curls
Set 1: 15 lbs x 20 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 15 lbs x 14 @ 9 rpe

SuperSet 2: Triceps Extension (Dumbbell) / Alternating DB Supination Curl

Triceps Extension (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 60 lbs x 11 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 45 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe

Alternating DB Supination Curl
Set 1: 25 lbs x 20 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 25 lbs x 16 @ 9 rpe

Diamond Push Ups
Set 1: 17 reps @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 13 reps @ 9 rpe

I will increase volume a bit as I move on through the mesocycle. I am most likely going to restructure my training slightly for less failure sets which means I will need slightly more volume. I spent too much time injured or fighting things off this past year and was pretty successful the year leading up to last October in staving off injury. So going to have to restructure a little while keeping to the movements needed to bring up any weak points. I think coach intends to re-evaluate this here soon and let me know what we should be targeting, and how.

I really enjoyed both of these sessions. I worked hard, felt very challenged and didn't feel beat up at the end of the session which is exactly what I want for the beginning of a meso.

On tap for this afternoon is Chest and Biceps, which is also another reason I kept volume lower on arms. My biceps and triceps are going to get stimulated again today. I don't want to exacerbate any little niggles I have now by pushing too hard two days in a row. My right tricep has a stinger, possibly the brachialis, it attaches there right under where I feel the sting. So i am a little more inclined to think it is the brachialis, and not the triceps itself.
 
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Everything looking great!!! For laying dbl curls are you on a flat bench? Seen some videos about it how it gives you a better stretch.
 
Dustin07 said:
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Love it!
Hyde said:
So you’re saying you hate quads and glutes and delts, is that right?!
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LMAO!
dapack said:
Everything looking great!!! For laying dbl curls are you on a flat bench? Seen some videos about it how it gives you a better stretch.
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Yes Sir, definitely a great stretch, and makes lower weight more challenging so less wear and tear.
PolishHamm3r77 said:
Hate is such a strong word
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I have a love/hate relationship with legs. There is a bit pf trepidation before every leg session. Just that, I know what I am about to put myself through kind of thing you almost fear in a way but also look forward to.

Unfortunately tonight was a wash on the gym. I took my preworkout on the way out the door from work, got home with splitting headache that I couldn't shake. I checked my BP and it was higher than I have seen it before @ 169/109, and I got rid of my vape immediately. My BP dropped noticeably in about an hour to a bit above my normal at 147/77 and out of the danger zone,but the splitting headache persisted. I am sure some of that is still nicotine, and some more of it pre-workout stimulants that have not made they way through my system yet. However, it kicked my ass today the point I am done messing with the nicotine vape. I think that was enough to make the quitting stick.
 
I think you are going the right path on training and focusing to stay injury free. That could de rail a whole year of such hard work so I think very wise. It can be very hard to tone back and take de loads when one can have that drive and focus and strive to go all out.

Those look like great sessions! Awesome on the trap bar deads if they are feeling good!

Yikes glad you got the BP to come down those are some scary numbers man!
 
akboom87 said:
I think you are going the right path on training and focusing to stay injury free. That could de rail a whole year of such hard work so I think very wise. It can be very hard to tone back and take de loads when one can have that drive and focus and strive to go all out.

Those look like great sessions! Awesome on the trap bar deads if they are feeling good!

Yikes glad you got the BP to come down those are some scary numbers man!
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Yeah. I had never seen them that high before. It was alarming to say the least.

Yeah Trap Bar DL's felt really good in the lower weight ranges. I will work to build up volume more before pushing much on strength accrual. Just make sure I make progress without hurting myself.
Hyde said:
Nicotine is a cardio toxin, plain & simple.
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Agreed, I started noticing not feeling so great after hitting the vape, but the addiction had already set in and was having a hell of a time kicking it. Those numbers, although not like OMG, were OMG enough to me. The combination of hitting the vape to many times right after a preworkout was just the right mixture to push me over the edge. I already feel a bit better this morning, and BP dropped some more. I am hoping within a few days my BP will have recovered. The vaping is the only thing i can think of that is raising BP above normal levels. Either way, I put it down yesterday and the plan is to not pick it back up. I expect i will see some more gradual improvements overall.
 
When pre workouts start jacking up your BP it means your huuuge! Ditch the stims pre workout and opt for pump products instead. It's a win, win, win.

You get a better pump, they may lower bp or keep it from goin too high and many things good for a pump are usually good for your wang too :)
 
Hyde said:
So you’re saying you hate quads and glutes and delts, is that right?!
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considering the pain I've put my glutes and quads through the past few weeks you'd definitely think I hated them and was out to murder them 😅

MrKleen73 said:
I checked my BP and it was higher than I have seen it before @ 169/109, and I got rid of my vape immediately. My BP dropped noticeably in about an hour to a bit above my normal at 147/77 and out of the danger zone,but the splitting headache persisted. I am sure some of that is still nicotine, and some more of it pre-workout stimulants that have not made they way through my system yet. However, it kicked my ass today the point I am done messing with the nicotine vape. I think that was enough to make the quitting stick.
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Good for you !! I'm glad you got that under control and are feeling better.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Oh yeah by the way I am being put on the Trophy Fitness Newsletter for the gym across the street that goes to all the members of all of the Trophy Fitness Gyms. They made me the member of the month or 1/4 took my pic and a few of the pics from the show and having me send them how and what I used at the gym and how it benefited me during prep. Apparently it is kind of a big deal for this location to have a submission approved for member for the month because it is one of the smaller gyms in their chain. Not a huge deal, but still pretty cool.
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That’s very cool! Neat that they are acknowledging locals too!

Great idea dialing training back a bit! Even your dialed back is intense!

I would have freaked out over the BP and headache too! Glad you got it to calm me down so quickly and you’re quitting the vape too!
 
Smont said:
When pre workouts start jacking up your BP it means your huuuge! Ditch the stims pre workout and opt for pump products instead. It's a win, win, win.

You get a better pump, they may lower bp or keep it from goin too high and many things good for a pump are usually good for your wang too :)
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Yeah unfortunately I am full stocked right now on stimmed pre's. They don't normally mess with BP much but I think I overdid it on the vape by accident. I was talking to my Mom on the way home and had my vape in my hand and think I just kept hitting it compulsively while i was talking to her. Probably like once a minute or so which imagine that builds up into a dire situation. Prior to this I have only seen my BP as high at 155/93 or something and that was too high... Plus the fact it fell so many points over the next 30-60 minutes tells me it was mostly the nicotine. The pre was still holding strong at that point.
Dustin07 said:
considering the pain I've put my glutes and quads through the past few weeks you'd definitely think I hated them and was out to murder them 😅



Good for you !! I'm glad you got that under control and are feeling better.
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Yep, love / hate!
love2liftkat said:
That’s very cool! Neat that they are acknowledging locals too!

Great idea dialing training back a bit! Even your dialed back is intense!

I would have freaked out over the BP and headache too! Glad you got it to calm me down so quickly and you’re quitting the vape too!
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Yeah, I thought it was neat.

Thanks, I didn't want to dial back too far and have an ineffectual workout so finding the balance between relatively high intensity, and low end volume was the goal.

So far so good on the quitting, a little low on energy today but other than that feeling good. Heading to the gym after work, and about to have my preworkout meal now. Then hit up a 1/2 scoop of All Out Ultra on the way to the gym. Should be a good session.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah unfortunately I am full stocked right now on stimmed pre's. They don't normally mess with BP much but I think I overdid it on the vape by accident. I was talking to my Mom on the way home and had my vape in my hand and think I just kept hitting it compulsively while i was talking to her. Probably like once a minute or so which imagine that builds up into a dire situation. Prior to this I have only seen my BP as high at 155/93 or something and that was too high... Plus the fact it fell so many points over the next 30-60 minutes tells me it was mostly the nicotine. The pre was still holding strong at that point.

Yep, love / hate!

Yeah, I thought it was neat.

Thanks, I didn't want to dial back too far and have an ineffectual workout so finding the balance between relatively high intensity, and low end volume was the goal.

So far so good on the quitting, a little low on energy today but other than that feeling good. Heading to the gym after work, and about to have my preworkout meal now. Then hit up a 1/2 scoop of All Out Ultra on the way to the gym. Should be a good session.
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Not clear to me that nicotine would hit that fast. Also possible that it was just the stress of having to talk to your mother that jacked the BP up.
 
akboom87 said:
Maybe it the 5g waves getting to us all…..
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I was working on a telephone pole that had a 5g antenna on it. The signage was on the side of the pole facing the woods, not the parking lot. Made me feels all kinds of funny. Full disclosure, I wouldn’t have taken it seriously anyway as I was a non-believer. Sh!t changed me. I use to go by “Irish Mallet” back then…..🤣🤣🤣
 
Jimbabwe said:
In the running for gayest thing I’ve read all year.
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Now the question is, what are the others in the running.
Jimbabwe said:
Not clear to me that nicotine would hit that fast. Also possible that it was just the stress of having to talk to your mother that jacked the BP up.
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LMAO!
Dustin07 said:
how did you go straight to prison vibes so fast
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Diddy? Oh I mean did he? Or did I?
Hyde said:
It’s all of it, no doubt. But the nicotine is the main low-hanging fruit worth cutting.
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Yeah for sure, especially when my use is almost compulsive.
Jimbabwe said:
No doubt. Will never find me advocating for vaping. Mostly just suggesting he should also cut out calls with his mother lol
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Yeah, some of the research I was doing was saying as far as nicotine goes, you can jack yourself up way more than a cigarette. A little less on the heart disease and lung issues but as far as nicotine goes. You end up using more with a vape for sure. I know I have never gotten "nic sick" off a cigarette but have hit a vape too many times and regretted it horribly.

LMAO! Once upon a time that could have increased my BP too. We have finally grown to like each other as much as we love each other which is refreshing.
akboom87 said:
Maybe it the 5g waves getting to us all…..
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Could be
Hyde said:
This thread bringing the jokes today 😂
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Right!
PolishHamm3r77 said:
I was working on a telephone pole that had a 5g antenna on it. The signage was on the side of the pole facing the woods, not the parking lot. Made me feels all kinds of funny. Full disclosure, I wouldn’t have taken it seriously anyway as I was a non-believer. Sh!t changed me. I use to go by “Irish Mallet” back then…..🤣🤣🤣
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Hopefully the next time you go to use it, you don't get the dreaded "Signal cannot be found" message!

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9/25/20 199.2lbs - Started adding weight back on pretty quicky this week. Had an adjustment period last week but steady gaining since then.

Chest & Biceps - Tuesday, Sep 24, 2024 at 4:34pm

Incline Chest Press (Machine)
"MyoRep match"
Set 1: 160 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 160 lbs x 8 @ 8 rpe
Set 3: 160 lbs x 2 @ 8.5 rpe

Iso-Lateral Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 70 lbs x 15 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 90 lbs x 9 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 70 lbs x 8 @ 9 rpe

Bench Press (Cable)
Set 1: 60 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 60 lbs x 9 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 35 lbs x 12 @ 9.5 rpe [Drop]

Chest Fly (Machine)
"10 full rom 10 stretched partials"
Set 1: 100 lbs x 20 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 100 lbs x 18 @ 9.5 rpe

Single Arm Preacher Curl
"HS machine Myorep match 2nd set"
Set 1: 45 lbs x 6 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 25 lbs x 12 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 25 lbs x 8 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 4: 25 lbs x 3 @ 9 rpe
Set 5: 25 lbs x 1 @ 8 rpe

Treadmill 15 minutes HR =135-150BPM
 
MrKleen73 said:
Now the question is, what are the others in the running.

LMAO!

Diddy? Oh I mean did he? Or did I?

Yeah for sure, especially when my use is almost compulsive.

Yeah, some of the research I was doing was saying as far as nicotine goes, you can jack yourself up way more than a cigarette. A little less on the heart disease and lung issues but as far as nicotine goes. You end up using more with a vape for sure. I know I have never gotten "nic sick" off a cigarette but have hit a vape too many times and regretted it horribly.

LMAO! Once upon a time that could have increased my BP too. We have finally grown to like each other as much as we love each other which is refreshing.

Could be

Right!

Hopefully the next time you go to use it, you don't get the dreaded "Signal cannot be found" message!

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9/25/20 199.2lbs - Started adding weight back on pretty quicky this week. Had an adjustment period last week but steady gaining since then.

Chest & Biceps - Tuesday, Sep 24, 2024 at 4:34pm

Incline Chest Press (Machine)
"MyoRep match"
Set 1: 160 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 160 lbs x 8 @ 8 rpe
Set 3: 160 lbs x 2 @ 8.5 rpe

Iso-Lateral Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 70 lbs x 15 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 90 lbs x 9 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 70 lbs x 8 @ 9 rpe

Bench Press (Cable)
Set 1: 60 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 60 lbs x 9 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 35 lbs x 12 @ 9.5 rpe [Drop]

Chest Fly (Machine)
"10 full rom 10 stretched partials"
Set 1: 100 lbs x 20 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 100 lbs x 18 @ 9.5 rpe

Single Arm Preacher Curl
"HS machine Myorep match 2nd set"
Set 1: 45 lbs x 6 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 25 lbs x 12 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 25 lbs x 8 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 4: 25 lbs x 3 @ 9 rpe
Set 5: 25 lbs x 1 @ 8 rpe

Treadmill 15 minutes HR =135-150BPM
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Nice solid chest session w a bicep teaser
 
PolishHamm3r77 said:
Nice solid chest session w a bicep teaser
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Yeah, after doing Biceps Sunday they surprised me and toasted out on that Single Arm Preacher curl. There was simply no reason for more volume tor another exercise for them there. The drop in reps from the first set to the 2nd and then needing another rest pause just to get the final rep I knew my biceps were done. I can definitely feel I trained them yesterday.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Now the question is, what are the others in the running.

LMAO!

Diddy? Oh I mean did he? Or did I?

Yeah for sure, especially when my use is almost compulsive.

Yeah, some of the research I was doing was saying as far as nicotine goes, you can jack yourself up way more than a cigarette. A little less on the heart disease and lung issues but as far as nicotine goes. You end up using more with a vape for sure. I know I have never gotten "nic sick" off a cigarette but have hit a vape too many times and regretted it horribly.

LMAO! Once upon a time that could have increased my BP too. We have finally grown to like each other as much as we love each other which is refreshing.

Could be

Right!

Hopefully the next time you go to use it, you don't get the dreaded "Signal cannot be found" message!

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9/25/20 199.2lbs - Started adding weight back on pretty quicky this week. Had an adjustment period last week but steady gaining since then.

Chest & Biceps - Tuesday, Sep 24, 2024 at 4:34pm

Incline Chest Press (Machine)
"MyoRep match"
Set 1: 160 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 160 lbs x 8 @ 8 rpe
Set 3: 160 lbs x 2 @ 8.5 rpe

Iso-Lateral Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 70 lbs x 15 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 90 lbs x 9 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 70 lbs x 8 @ 9 rpe

Bench Press (Cable)
Set 1: 60 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 60 lbs x 9 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 35 lbs x 12 @ 9.5 rpe [Drop]

Chest Fly (Machine)
"10 full rom 10 stretched partials"
Set 1: 100 lbs x 20 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 100 lbs x 18 @ 9.5 rpe

Single Arm Preacher Curl
"HS machine Myorep match 2nd set"
Set 1: 45 lbs x 6 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 25 lbs x 12 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 25 lbs x 8 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 4: 25 lbs x 3 @ 9 rpe
Set 5: 25 lbs x 1 @ 8 rpe

Treadmill 15 minutes HR =135-150BPM
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I see you’re still tearing it up in here ……nice workout. This should be a really good bulk or gain phase and I’m sure your body is primed to gain some more. As good a condition as your in you’ll be able to notice any extra muscle that you’re able to add.
 
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