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Kleen BLASTS OFF DC Style w/ Asteroid Stack at his back!

Day 24 - Gotta lift late tonight.

My entire weeks schedule is getting all squirrely with seasonal things going on. I was out until almost 1:00AM last night shopping and getting a new tree. We went to put up the tree yesterday and the base broke. I was tired of stringing lights around it anyway. So we had to go to get another tree. We also has shopping to do and got quite a bit done. Now I have to stay home and put up the new tree tonight instead of my make up gym session for tomorrow. I would just push it back but then we are scheduled to get our tattoos on Wednesday night and that will be a very long night. So working out in the AM on Thursday is pretty much out of the question. SO here is how this week is going to look I think.

Tonight, Go home, get dinner going, put up tree, take 4 Refresh, 4 Prime, 3 PowerFULL 1/2-3/4scoop of jack3d, put daughter to bed. Remind wife she said I couldn't go to gym on anniversary... Kiss said wife while begging for forgiveness then go to the gym to make up for tomorrow.

Tomorrow - Anniversary stuff, no workouts allowed.

Wednesday - should be a morningn cardio day, but is now a weight day because going to get tattoos Wed night.

Thursday - SHould be lifting day but now no training due to guarranteed exhaustion from being at tattoo shop all night.

Friday, back to normal, Cardio Day, then Sat back on Weights.

Interesting that this week is a week I wanted to start concentrating on my cardio more and I pretty much won't be able to get any in this week.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Yep, 10 every day.
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I have a theory that perhaps nothing will change due to the constant dosing as opposed to the staggered dose schedule like I am doing right now. It is just me but I do not feel any different taking my PRIME then going to the gym than I do taking my PRIME without a pre gym dose. I also don't notice any effects from PRIME until about 1 week after starting which also leads me to believe it is a total saturation instead of reacting to acute doses. I definitely notice the difference increasing my PowerFULL before a workout but I think the MOA of PRIME is different. I think it works through total saturation levels and not so much as an immediate reaction of the strength of a single dose. Currently at 10 a day every day you are taking in more a week then I am now at my 8/11 dose. You, 8 grams a day, 56 grams a week 6.4 / 8.8g 26.4 = 52 grams a week. You are basically taking almost 1 pill a daymore than I am. You Sir are the megadoser! LOL

Anyway my next PRIME run I plan to preload then keep my dose at a constant throughout the week. I want to see if a couple days of loading makes it kick in any faster, and also prove to myself that the constant dose is just as good as the spiking around workouts. Maybe it is just me but I don't get that VROOM from dosing heavy 30-45 minutes before training. Could just be in my head. Could just be that Jack3d overpowers all of that so I don't notice. Either way I love how PRIME works just so long as you take it regularly.

orbitron3000 said:
well congrats on the anniversary, kleen! looks like a solid plan.
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Gracias, lets hope the wife thinks it sounds like a good plan. I took another OEP just a little bit ago so I am gonna be up regardless. ;)
 
MrKleen73 said:
I have a theory that perhaps nothing will change due to the constant dosing as opposed to the staggered dose schedule like I am doing right now. It is just me but I do not feel any different taking my PRIME then going to the gym than I do taking my PRIME without a pre gym dose. I also don't notice any effects from PRIME until about 1 week after starting which also leads me to believe it is a total saturation instead of reacting to acute doses. I definitely notice the difference increasing my PowerFULL before a workout but I think the MOA of PRIME is different. I think it works through total saturation levels and not so much as an immediate reaction of the strength of a single dose. Currently at 10 a day every day you are taking in more a week then I am now at my 8/11 dose. You, 8 grams a day, 56 grams a week 6.4 / 8.8g 26.4 = 52 grams a week. You are basically taking almost 1 pill a daymore than I am. You Sir are the megadoser! LOL

Anyway my next PRIME run I plan to preload then keep my dose at a constant throughout the week. I want to see if a couple days of loading makes it kick in any faster, and also prove to myself that the constant dose is just as good as the spiking around workouts. Maybe it is just me but I don't get that VROOM from dosing heavy 30-45 minutes before training. Could just be in my head. Could just be that Jack3d overpowers all of that so I don't notice. Either way I love how PRIME works just so long as you take it regularly.
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I fully agree with your assessment. On my last PRIME run I dosed 6 pre-workout, 2 mid-day, and 1 pre-bed; 2/2/2 on off days. - This time I started out dosing 3/2/2 every day, and am now up to 10 every day at 4/3/3. I don't notice a difference from 4 to 6 pre-workout, or 3 to 4 for that matter. I actually responded very well to 7, and unfortunately I haven't been able to hit heavy compound movements until this week, so I won't be able to see if my lifts have gone up relative to my increase in dosing.

I'm basically running a high dose of PRIME to compare the effects/sides (no sides to speak of at this point - Gyno flared up on left side last week but I think that was from the Letro; yes I tapered down) to Natatropin when I get the chance to run it. Right now it's basically the cost factor that I'll be comparing to Natatropin. I'm sure some haters will be screaming, "Natatropin is an androgen! You can't compare them!" - Ya, well, it comes from a freaking plant, so I'm going to. lol

Anyways, due to reading your diet, and seeing a little fat gain on myself, I've decided to go low-carb for the next two weeks, and train with a traditional bodybuilding split. I'm going to pound each muscle to the ground the next two weeks. My Delts/Abs (I freakin' never train abs) just suffered in a nice hour long session. It was so great to just go in there and hit high-volume for a change. DC sets are nice and all, but man, there is nothing better in the gym than just annihilating the muscle. :D
 
Irish Cannon said:
I fully agree with your assessment. On my last PRIME run I dosed 6 pre-workout, 2 mid-day, and 1 pre-bed; 2/2/2 on off days. - This time I started out dosing 3/2/2 every day, and am now up to 10 every day at 4/3/3. I don't notice a difference from 4 to 6 pre-workout, or 3 to 4 for that matter. I actually responded very well to 7, and unfortunately I haven't been able to hit heavy compound movements until this week, so I won't be able to see if my lifts have gone up relative to my increase in dosing.

I'm basically running a high dose of PRIME to compare the effects/sides (no sides to speak of at this point - Gyno flared up on left side last week but I think that was from the Letro; yes I tapered down) to Natatropin when I get the chance to run it. Right now it's basically the cost factor that I'll be comparing to Natatropin. I'm sure some haters will be screaming, "Natatropin is an androgen! You can't compare them!" - Ya, well, it comes from a freaking plant, so I'm going to. lol

Anyways, due to reading your diet, and seeing a little fat gain on myself, I've decided to go low-carb for the next two weeks, and train with a traditional bodybuilding split. I'm going to pound each muscle to the ground the next two weeks. My Delts/Abs (I freakin' never train abs) just suffered in a nice hour long session. It was so great to just go in there and hit high-volume for a change. DC sets are nice and all, but man, there is nothing better in the gym than just annihilating the muscle. :D
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Hey you know what, if it is an androgen and it is natural then great hit it up! Compare the results all day long. I think there is a commonality to which the haters should concede. We want to know how the results compare product to product then can decide if the Mode of Action is something we want to work around or not. If the goals are common, being increased strength, recovery, aggression and muscle growth then I think we have enough comparison points to decide the efficacy of the product considering PRIME is an already tried and true proven product, it is a compliment to want to use it as a measuring line. For me to put 5 lbs on on this stack I would be kind of stupid to say hay I don't wanna know any other procucts that may also add 5 lbs onto my frame. Perhaps if the work through different modes of action I can alternate stacks and double my progress. HATERS SUCK! However I need a few more of then as it is only proof I am doing something right. Got a hater you don't want send em my way...

As far as the diet, bulking is hard to do, you don't want to go overboard on gains because you don't want excessive clean up afterwards. However you become reluctant to cut cals because that goes against the mass gain thought process. What a bitch that is eh... Bottom line is as long as at the end my LBM is higher than it was when I started I don't care if I only gain a lb or two. I am hoping to see may 3 lbs more LBM. If I get more than 3 lbs after all of the size I gained this summer and then on the SWOLE Stack I will be shocked. That is A LOT of new muscle this year. Now I just want to finish it up KLEEN. ;)
 
I agree totally with you on the Prime/Powerfull pre workout Kleen. I have played with different doses of Prime pre w/o and saw nothing as far as results. It is something that just needs to be built up in your system and kept constant. The Powerfull is a different animal for sure. I get a great mind/muscle connect when taking it pre w/o. My next Prime run will probably be kept at 8 ed thru-out the run.
What is the Tattoo going to look like bubba?
 
Good convo up in here.
 
MrKleen73 said:
My entire weeks schedule is getting all squirrely with seasonal things going on. Now I have to stay home and put up the new tree tonight instead of my make up gym session for tomorrow.
Tomorrow - Anniversary stuff, no workouts allowed.
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At least you're rescheduling your workouts so as not to miss any. I NEVER condone missing workouts unless you or a very close loved one is in the hospital. No other excuses.
Christmas falls on a Friday which is leg day for me. I'll wake up extra early and blast those quads before I move on with the festivities. I will NOT skip a workout just because it's Christmas Day.
Thanksgiving is always on Thursdays, and that's a cardio day. I was up early that morning as well with my ass planted on that cardio machine.
Just the way Thunder rolls.........
 
Yah I still don't notice a difference with staggered dosing, perhaps it aids in recovery, hard to say. I find progression in dosing very beneficial. As far as bulking is concerned you need to eat extra which is usually not a problem due to hunger. It is definitely better for recomp though, which makes it the perfect supplement for me.
 
thundergod said:
At least you're rescheduling your workouts so as not to miss any. I NEVER condone missing workouts unless you or a very close loved one is in the hospital. No other excuses.
Christmas falls on a Friday which is leg day for me. I'll wake up extra early and blast those quads before I move on with the festivities. I will NOT skip a workout just because it's Christmas Day.
Thanksgiving is always on Thursdays, and that's a cardio day. I was up early that morning as well with my ass planted on that cardio machine.
Just the way Thunder rolls.........
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Pretty gangster thunder! I love those pre thanksgiving workouts. Nothing like the extra cals after a workout!
 
thundergod said:
At least you're rescheduling your workouts so as not to miss any. I NEVER condone missing workouts unless you or a very close loved one is in the hospital. No other excuses.
Christmas falls on a Friday which is leg day for me. I'll wake up extra early and blast those quads before I move on with the festivities. I will NOT skip a workout just because it's Christmas Day.
Thanksgiving is always on Thursdays, and that's a cardio day. I was up early that morning as well with my ass planted on that cardio machine.
Just the way Thunder rolls.........
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I need to play catch-up with my columns, but check out my blog; link in sig. I went over this very thing.
 
thundergod said:
At least you're rescheduling your workouts so as not to miss any. I NEVER condone missing workouts unless you or a very close loved one is in the hospital. No other excuses.
Christmas falls on a Friday which is leg day for me. I'll wake up extra early and blast those quads before I move on with the festivities. I will NOT skip a workout just because it's Christmas Day.
Thanksgiving is always on Thursdays, and that's a cardio day. I was up early that morning as well with my ass planted on that cardio machine.
Just the way Thunder rolls.........
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I have planned breaks, I don't ever miss time unless it planned. During these breaks (which last a week) I will still do about 4 hours cardio. Breaks are just part of my routine I get a lot of growth out of planned time off. These are generally every 8 weeks. I plan on deloading instead for breaking during my prep though.
 
How can you call it a Holiday when you dont do the thing that brings you the most joy?

A christmas day lift to go with the presents....a new year's day PR.....its the season to be getting stonger!
 
Keep up the hard work Kleen! Man it is hard to follow your log on my schedual! I keep having to read PAGES at a time! I'll have something to say about a convo 3 pages back, and then it will be over before I can get to the end of your log... hahahaha... I gotta make some more time!
 
Kleen,

So I tested the new PRIME dose on Back Squats just now. It's been three weeks since I've Squatted due to school/work, so maybe a bad test, but regardless...

7 PRIME/day: 405x1
10 PRIME/day: 405x2

I can pretty much conclude that the higher dose isn't cost effective at this point, which is a good thing, I think. If I can get by with a lower dose and hit right about the same range, I'm happy.

Now, time to test the Natatropin!...:D
 
Congrats on the Anniversary!! As for the lifting on the holidays... we are all super freaks. Go Hard had it right... tis the season! No better way to bring in Christmas than a great lift at the gym! Makes the rest of the day sing!!!!
 
Gratz on the anniversary bud!! Truly special!! Lots of great info to always be had up in here, so thanks guys!!
 
Irish Cannon said:
Kleen,

So I tested the new PRIME dose on Back Squats just now. It's been three weeks since I've Squatted due to school/work, so maybe a bad test, but regardless...

7 PRIME/day: 405x1
10 PRIME/day: 405x2

I can pretty much conclude that the higher dose isn't cost effective at this point, which is a good thing, I think. If I can get by with a lower dose and hit right about the same range, I'm happy.

Now, time to test the Natatropin!...:D
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Prime/Natatropin could be more cost effective...
 
Yes
You could lower the Prime dose with the addition of the Natatropin(which is being offered at a great price!)
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Yes
You could lower the Prime dose with the addition of the Natatropin(which is being offered at a great price!)
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Very true. Especially if Natatropin doesn't offer the same benefits in strength that PRIME does, a stack would work very well. It would be nice to get away with 6 or less PRIME/day and still see great results. Who knows, maybe even 4 would be all you need. Wouldn't that be nice?!
 
I would be alright with that!!
 
AZMIDLYF said:
I agree totally with you on the Prime/Powerfull pre workout Kleen. I have played with different doses of Prime pre w/o and saw nothing as far as results. It is something that just needs to be built up in your system and kept constant. The Powerfull is a different animal for sure. I get a great mind/muscle connect when taking it pre w/o. My next Prime run will probably be kept at 8 ed thru-out the run.
What is the Tattoo going to look like bubba?
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It is going to be the Kangi symbol for destiny, but he is making it look like it was carved out of my skin, tattooing what will look like inflamation around the cuts and everything. Will be a multiple meaning tattoo. One is that were we destined to be together and then it also symbolizes to me anyway that "You have to carve out your own destiny." It will also be on my upper back / traps so "My Destiny lies on my shoulders."

metroba said:
Good convo up in here.
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thundergod said:
At least you're rescheduling your workouts so as not to miss any. I NEVER condone missing workouts unless you or a very close loved one is in the hospital. No other excuses.
Christmas falls on a Friday which is leg day for me. I'll wake up extra early and blast those quads before I move on with the festivities. I will NOT skip a workout just because it's Christmas Day.
Thanksgiving is always on Thursdays, and that's a cardio day. I was up early that morning as well with my ass planted on that cardio machine.
Just the way Thunder rolls.........
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Yeah I do what I can. Will be heading to the gym in a little while to make up for tomorrows since I will be dead azz tired tomorrow.

DreamWeaver said:
Yah I still don't notice a difference with staggered dosing, perhaps it aids in recovery, hard to say. I find progression in dosing very beneficial. As far as bulking is concerned you need to eat extra which is usually not a problem due to hunger. It is definitely better for recomp though, which makes it the perfect supplement for me.
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Recomp is definitely where the strength lies with this. Well I am sure gaining mass to but for my interests recomp is where it is at. This is definitely my last true bulk that I will do. I just don't like looking softer regardless of how thick I am and right now I am a big boy...

pembroke3355 said:
Congrats on the Anniversary good stuff.:)
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Gracias!

Irish Cannon said:
I need to play catch-up with my columns, but check out my blog; link in sig. I went over this very thing.
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Will have to have a look at that.

DreamWeaver said:
I have planned breaks, I don't ever miss time unless it planned. During these breaks (which last a week) I will still do about 4 hours cardio. Breaks are just part of my routine I get a lot of growth out of planned time off. These are generally every 8 weeks. I plan on deloading instead for breaking during my prep though.
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Good strategy DW.

GoHardOrGoHme said:
How can you call it a Holiday when you dont do the thing that brings you the most joy?

A christmas day lift to go with the presents....a new year's day PR.....its the season to be getting stonger!
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The wife governs my workouts on Holidays. I have to run it by her. Depends on the mood. lol I am relatively sure I might get beat for a Christmas Day workout. LOL

GMG760 said:
Keep up the hard work Kleen! Man it is hard to follow your log on my schedual! I keep having to read PAGES at a time! I'll have something to say about a convo 3 pages back, and then it will be over before I can get to the end of your log... hahahaha... I gotta make some more time!
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I know long winded aren't I?

Irish Cannon said:
Kleen,

So I tested the new PRIME dose on Back Squats just now. It's been three weeks since I've Squatted due to school/work, so maybe a bad test, but regardless...

7 PRIME/day: 405x1
10 PRIME/day: 405x2

I can pretty much conclude that the higher dose isn't cost effective at this point, which is a good thing, I think. If I can get by with a lower dose and hit right about the same range, I'm happy.

Now, time to test the Natatropin!...:D
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I don't know if that is an adequate test of how well it works with higher doses. I think you would pretty much have to ride it out for the duration and compare to a time you took the regular doses and compare those two.

Army Guy said:
Congrats on the Anniversary!! As for the lifting on the holidays... we are all super freaks. Go Hard had it right... tis the season! No better way to bring in Christmas than a great lift at the gym! Makes the rest of the day sing!!!!
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AMEN!

subweevil said:
Gratz on the anniversary bud!! Truly special!! Lots of great info to always be had up in here, so thanks guys!!
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Thanks

AZMIDLYF said:
Prime/Natatropin could be more cost effective...
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AZMIDLYF said:
Yes
You could lower the Prime dose with the addition of the Natatropin(which is being offered at a great price!)
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Probably with current price of the Natatropin pre order.

Irish Cannon said:
Very true. Especially if Natatropin doesn't offer the same benefits in strength that PRIME does, a stack would work very well. It would be nice to get away with 6 or less PRIME/day and still see great results. Who knows, maybe even 4 would be all you need. Wouldn't that be nice?!
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Well I know for a fact that 4 new PRIME will make you grow because 6 of the old ones made me grow and that is only a 400 mg difference. Stacked with something with synergy it would be awesome. Although I do think increased doses work but also like creatine when you are saturated you are saturated. I think everyone has to find the sweet spot for them. IE... find their own saturation point anything over that would probably be a waste.

AZMIDLYF said:
I would be alright with that!!
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Yep, but I am thinking Natatropin will do better on a test boosting stack that increases free test, then follow it up with a month of a test booster for pct.

pembroke3355 said:
Sounds interesting.
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Yes would be interesting to see.
 
Day 26 - The strength increases have arrived in full effect!

I kicked ass in the gym yesterday. I smashed the log book! I don't have much time right now but here are the numbers.


Hammer Strength Flat Bench 135x16 previous weight / reps
145x12-3-1 =16 75x70sec stretch
20 lb total increase


Hammer Strength Iso-lateral Pull Down 135x20 previous weight / reps
150x12-2-2 =16
30 lb total increase


Hammer Strength Shoulder Press 90x13 previous weight/reps
90x15-5-2 =22 60 sec stretch
9 more reps!!!!!!


Hammer Strength Dip 270x20 previous weight / reps
290x10-2-2 =14 50x60sec stretch
20 lb total increase

Hammer Strength Rows
180x12-2-2 =16 no prior 60 sec stretch

Like I said I FUGGIN SMASHED IT!!!!!!!!!!! Large increases in weight, and some increased reps.
 
HYYUUUGGGEEE JUMPS!!! :yikes:

Lookin' strong Mr. Kleen!!!
 
Awesome weight increases kleen! I also think you should win the longest multi quote award for post 326. lo Keep it up man. I might have to run some prime on my next recomp too!
 
Ahem....feeling primed are we?

Great workout, progress is off the charts!
 
Day 27 - My new tattoo, possibly leaning up...

Hey guys not to much to report here. I didn't get to the gym yesterday so I have to go tonight to lift. As long as nothing happens homelife wise to get in the way. After my sons doctor app. We ended up still having to go get him some new glasses after his broke. He was trying contacts for the first time and couldn't get them out for a LONG time, so I never got into the gym! DAMN! Now tonight is Biceps forearms and legs. I am trying to figure out how to hit legs tonight. I am scheduled for Leg Press but I also have this new tattoo on my back. The tip goes high enough I have to be careful with squats, maybe a hack squat machine. Maybe I can get away with the leg press. I will have to sit in a few of them to see if I can. If not I will find something up there to hit the quads with. More than likely some reverse hack squats where my back does not touch anything. I can just get someone to ride the machine because there is only room for 22 plates and I have ridiculously strong glutes. I can rep out for 15 on those for 3 sets and be fine. What can I say, I have a major bubble butt! LOL

On another note I look like I leaned up the tiniest bit. I havent done anything but drop about 300 cals a day, this week has not allowed for cardio but I imagine as soon as I begin I will be recomping at my current weight which is still a few lbs heavier than when I started.

Here are some nice fresh pics of the tattoo. It mean Destiny in Chinese Kanji. The symbol for Destiny in Japanese is actually two symbols or I would have stuck with Japanese to match the one on my calve.

This one shows how bigt it actually is on my back.
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This one is a close up shot of it. Still fresh and moist...
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This one is my wife's, hers is just as vibrant as mine but mine was facing the light when taken and hers was facing away from the light so it doesn't look as bright. Hers is also a couple of hours older so less swelling.
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Hers is lower than mine on her back, just above her bra strap because she has a pair of eyes on here traps. Hers is also scaled down to about half or 2/3 the size of mine.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Now tonight is Biceps forearms and legs. I am trying to figure out how to hit legs tonight. I am scheduled for Leg Press but I also have this new tattoo on my back. The tip goes high enough I have to be careful with squats, maybe a hack squat machine. Maybe I can get away with the leg press. I will have to sit in a few of them to see if I can. If not I will find something up there to hit the quads with.
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Time to get creative with the weights tonight. You could always do some DB Squats, Zercher Squats, Thompson Squats, Barbell Hack Squats, and DB Lunges. There's always something to replace those regular Squats and Leg Presses with. :deal:
 
thundergod said:
Time to get creative with the weights tonight. You could always do some DB Squats, Zercher Squats, Thompson Squats, Barbell Hack Squats, and DB Lunges. There's always something to replace those regular Squats and Leg Presses with. :deal:
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You know I was thinking about the Zerchers, or the bb hack squat too. Be nice however not sure how to "beat the log" I guess I will just have to create the log for it. Of course strappuing up to the 150 lb dumbells and hitting some squats would be insanity too. However I think I should get heavier duty wraps if I go that option. My wrists are starting to look like I am into bondage with the wraps I have cutting into me. I need the good ones with wrist cushion to protect my lovely wrist tendons. Would suck to develop carpal tunnel or some crap over some $10 wrist wraps.
 
MrKleen73 said:
You know I was thinking about the Zerchers, or the bb hack squat too. Be nice however not sure how to "beat the log" I guess I will just have to create the log for it. Of course strappuing up to the 150 lb dumbells and hitting some squats would be insanity too. However I think I should get heavier duty wraps if I go that option. My wrists are starting to look like I am into bondage with the wraps I have cutting into me. I need the good ones with wrist cushion to protect my lovely wrist tendons. Would suck to develop carpal tunnel or some crap over some $10 wrist wraps.
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lol I use the $1.99 Everlast straps from Academy and they cut the crap out of my wrists. They stay red for a day too. But hey you get what you pay for most of the time. Good luck w/ legs tonight, and sweet tat big man!
 
jdg487 said:
lol I use the $1.99 Everlast straps from Academy and they cut the crap out of my wrists. They stay red for a day too. But hey you get what you pay for most of the time. Good luck w/ legs tonight, and sweet tat big man!
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AMEN! Definitely one of those you get what you pay for situations. My buddy has a nice set and they are night and day different. They grip WAY better, and are more comfortable. Would increase ability to hold a stretch longer too with the superior grip.
 
Creative workouts sometimes end up trashing new muscle, so this workout could end up being a blessing in disguise.
 
punthra said:
Creative workouts sometimes end up trashing new muscle, so this workout could end up being a blessing in disguise.
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Oh no doubt, I know I will blast some soreness into them from the new movement. Just frustrating not be able to "beat the log" However with my last workout I abused the log book thoroughly and am sure what ever I do tonight I will match or beat my intensity which is the best I can do in that situation. Here is to one demolition style shock treatment for legs tonight.
 
Nice ink brudda.

I use Harbinger wraps with the rubber grips on one side. They do give me indian burns on my wrists when I go heavy, but dang that rubber grip makes it so they are SO locked in, no chance of slipping. I have always felt like the padded ones have too much give in the padding for my taste... just my .02
 
Just a suggestion but to really blast the whole leg you can hit front squat and lying leg curls super-setted to attack the quads and hams in rapid succession. At least for me front squat focuses a shizza-ton on my quads. Depending how ur hams are still doing of course. I wouldnt recommend anything with a bar on ur back b/c that ink of yours goes almost to ur traps so if the bar slides a little bit....you will feel it.


As far as ink is concerned, i grew up in a conservative household. Very old-school hispanic morals so tatt's for me where forbidden when i was younger. As i grew older and educated myself, the history behind tattoo's is quite admirable and respectable. I have grown such an appreciation for them that I actually wouldnt mind adding some ink one day(despite my upbringing) but i have given myself one condition....I have to earn it. If i ever ink my body it has to be a trophy or medal of honor of sorts. A right of pasage if you will. Thats my personal stance on ink on my body but as far as everyone else, I heavily respect those with creative tattoos with profound meanings and enjoy seeing them on friends.

ROCK THE INK PIMPIN!
 
Yah front squats will get it done. Don't underestimate the effect on hamstings as well. I have blown my hamstrings up when combining front squats and leg curls.
 
GMG760 said:
Nice ink brudda.

I use Harbinger wraps with the rubber grips on one side. They do give me indian burns on my wrists when I go heavy, but dang that rubber grip makes it so they are SO locked in, no chance of slipping. I have always felt like the padded ones have too much give in the padding for my taste... just my .02
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Will look at those too. My McCheesy ones just aint cutting it.

GoHardOrGoHme said:
Just a suggestion but to really blast the whole leg you can hit front squat and lying leg curls super-setted to attack the quads and hams in rapid succession. At least for me front squat focuses a shizza-ton on my quads. Depending how ur hams are still doing of course. I wouldnt recommend anything with a bar on ur back b/c that ink of yours goes almost to ur traps so if the bar slides a little bit....you will feel it.


As far as ink is concerned, i grew up in a conservative household. Very old-school hispanic morals so tatt's for me where forbidden when i was younger. As i grew older and educated myself, the history behind tattoo's is quite admirable and respectable. I have grown such an appreciation for them that I actually wouldnt mind adding some ink one day(despite my upbringing) but i have given myself one condition....I have to earn it. If i ever ink my body it has to be a trophy or medal of honor of sorts. A right of pasage if you will. Thats my personal stance on ink on my body but as far as everyone else, I heavily respect those with creative tattoos with profound meanings and enjoy seeing them on friends.

ROCK THE INK PIMPIN!
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Yeah, I think I may try Zerchers, same accentuation on the quads as the front squat, and I feel I may be able to handle a larger load with them.

Yeah I like tattoos as plain old art on other people but on me it must have a meaning. An important meaning. I wont say I wont get anymore but I don't have a plan to at this point. As much as I love the weights I have always wanted something lifting related but so far nothing that I truly want. If I do that I will draw it on my own like the one on my stomach.

DreamWeaver said:
Yah front squats will get it done. Don't underestimate the effect on hamstings as well. I have blown my hamstrings up when combining front squats and leg curls.
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Ouch, hams are getting better but still tight enough that makes me want to cringe a bit. If I really want to isolate the quads I could go old skool... SISSY Squats, cuz they turn you into a big sissy. Since I can't really beat a log I could beat the crap out of them quads. The fact I am unsure of what I am going to do only makes me more excited to get to the gym and see what I feel motivated to use to crush my quads with. Man I wish we had one of those leg press that was like a donkey calf raise machine with the large range ofmotion, would be perfect for today. Oh well I am killing it tonight and we can all be surprised by my choice of lifts. Sillly I am excited about going even though I don't quite know my plan.

orbitron3000 said:
cool ink, bra! what's the one on your calf say?
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Thanks! The one on my calve says Warriors Spirit.
 
Kleen im taking your routine to the next level....and here is the log showing how!

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yo yo Kleen just dropping in to make sure you are doing your Kegels
 
Day 28 - Hectic Day today.

Today has been insane regarding being busy. I don't have much time but this is the workout as it went down. Not unhappy with it at all. None of these have prior log entries.


BB Curls 15-25 RP 115x12-5-2 =19 Was very happy with this number.

Reverse Curls 11-20 SS 65x14, had no idea where I would land on these. First time I have done with any wait since getting the bad tendonitis. Was a little sensitive but felt good.

Seated Donkey Raise 10-12ss 460x12 Controlled up, 5 seconds down. 30 second stretch at end. Plate started cutting into shoe so stopped the stretch. I got big calves anyway. I may have to ease up on them.

Lying Leg Curls 110x12 hamsting started to sting a tiny bit the last 2 reps, chose to leave as a single straight set. Also killed intentions of doing Zerchers for quads. Didn't trust it for squatting movements.

Leg Press 8-12ss 675x14 Yes I know this was light. However I had my feet so low on the platform my heels were hanging off the bottom a tiny bit. Gave me the ability to get great flexion of the knee while holding my upper back of the back pad to save the tattoo. On 14th rep I had to push hard enough my upper back touched the pad so that was the end of the set. Next time back up to 18 plates at a normal foot position. :D
LP Widow Maker 20 reps 585x20 this was a great weight for the widow maker.

All in all I really enjoyed the workout had a great pump and left the gym feeling like I accomplished something.
 
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