Kleen BLASTS OFF DC Style w/ Asteroid Stack at his back!
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DreamWeaver
Legend
Alright, Kleen, I'm taking 9 PRIME/day now.- This morning's workout was sick. Fasted and dosed:
4x PRIME
8 sprays GHenerate
2x I-GH-1
1000 IU Vitamin D-3
1x E-911
Pumps were disgustingly huge.
Hey IC 8 sprays of Ghenerate?? How are you running the Ghenerate and I-GH-1 and why. I have 3 bottles coming and want to get the best coverage/effect for my 20 week prep.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah you never know how well it's going to go, I can't count how many times I have gone to the gym feeling like shyte and walking out with my head held high, some of my best workouts feel like they are going to be shyte.
thundergod
Well-known member
I'll take teh greenz over teh booze any day.
Collard Greens??!!! Asparagus.....oh, I know.........broccoli. Good greens there!:icon_lol:
Irish Cannon
Legend
5 on / 2 off
8 sprays pre-workout (fasted)
8 sprays pre-bed, about 1.5hrs after my last meal.
3x I-GH-1 with each GHenerate dosing.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah I will go with 8 sprays as we discussed, you can run it indefinitely this way I assume.
hman85
Well-known member
I would start out at 5-6 sprays. Most of the people including me got sleep issues from dosing too high at first. So work into it. imo
Irish Cannon
Legend
DreamWeaver
Legend
Ok will do ... I will start early and ease into it...
MrKleen73
Legend
Day 15 - Changed schedule, and had a great workout!
Today I worked another upper body dc workout instead of doing legs biceps and forearms. I still needed the rest on legs and this would sync us up for our saturday workouts. I had a great workout. I have lost all of the fluff from Thanksgiving and am right where I was at 199 3/4. I feel bigger and maybe the slightest bit leaner. Lots of positive agression and my joints are holding up very well. My elbow didn't even hurt after upright row and I was givin that crap all I had. Very Alpha Male right now in a positive way not snapping at anyone or anything. My muscles feel very hard and dense.
I am also really enjoying DC so far. Speaking of here is todays workout.
Flat Barbell Bench - 235x12-3-2-1 = 18 Up 10 lbs from Thursday and initial set was only 1 shy of the 13 at 225. Nice jump in weight and it felt better. I think when I get to 20 I am going to 240-245. My friend pushed me to get back under for that last one so I had ti do it. :bigok:
70lb stretch 60 seconds, man was that fun....
Wide Grip Upright Rows - 155x7-4-2 = 13, DC Shoulder stretch 60 seconds man I was grunting ripping it and not stopping til that pitiful half rep attempt. Very exlosive with a nice controlled lowering. Was the kind of set you just feel you worked your ass off. That was a test of that tendonitis, it didn't hurt and normally it would ache but it isnt yet so far so good. No pain at all!!!
Incline Over head Cable Triceps Ext. Machine - 110x10-4-2=16 50lb stretch 60 seconds Man I really love these as opposed to lying tricep extensions because of the constant tension.
Front wide grip pulldown - 200x14-7-3 24 Man this really felt good but going to go up 20 lbs on this see where I am in rep range. If still over 20 I keep moving up.
TBar Rows = 4 plates x12-5-4 =21 Going up I have decided 20 is my cut off before going up.
60 second wide grip chin hang wrapped for grip did flutter kicks for abs while hanging.
Honestly the workout was awesome. I am going to be changing my rep range to 15 - 20 but if I move up in weight and get 13 I am going to stick to that weight and just keep adding reps at that instead of dropping weight. I can already feel my body recovering from less frequency. Well except for the hammies, but that is a reoccurring issue...
Today I worked another upper body dc workout instead of doing legs biceps and forearms. I still needed the rest on legs and this would sync us up for our saturday workouts. I had a great workout. I have lost all of the fluff from Thanksgiving and am right where I was at 199 3/4. I feel bigger and maybe the slightest bit leaner. Lots of positive agression and my joints are holding up very well. My elbow didn't even hurt after upright row and I was givin that crap all I had. Very Alpha Male right now in a positive way not snapping at anyone or anything. My muscles feel very hard and dense.
I am also really enjoying DC so far. Speaking of here is todays workout.
Flat Barbell Bench - 235x12-3-2-1 = 18 Up 10 lbs from Thursday and initial set was only 1 shy of the 13 at 225. Nice jump in weight and it felt better. I think when I get to 20 I am going to 240-245. My friend pushed me to get back under for that last one so I had ti do it. :bigok:
70lb stretch 60 seconds, man was that fun....
Wide Grip Upright Rows - 155x7-4-2 = 13, DC Shoulder stretch 60 seconds man I was grunting ripping it and not stopping til that pitiful half rep attempt. Very exlosive with a nice controlled lowering. Was the kind of set you just feel you worked your ass off. That was a test of that tendonitis, it didn't hurt and normally it would ache but it isnt yet so far so good. No pain at all!!!
Incline Over head Cable Triceps Ext. Machine - 110x10-4-2=16 50lb stretch 60 seconds Man I really love these as opposed to lying tricep extensions because of the constant tension.
Front wide grip pulldown - 200x14-7-3 24 Man this really felt good but going to go up 20 lbs on this see where I am in rep range. If still over 20 I keep moving up.
TBar Rows = 4 plates x12-5-4 =21 Going up I have decided 20 is my cut off before going up.
60 second wide grip chin hang wrapped for grip did flutter kicks for abs while hanging.
Honestly the workout was awesome. I am going to be changing my rep range to 15 - 20 but if I move up in weight and get 13 I am going to stick to that weight and just keep adding reps at that instead of dropping weight. I can already feel my body recovering from less frequency. Well except for the hammies, but that is a reoccurring issue...
DreamWeaver
Legend
Today I worked another upper body dc workout instead of doing legs biceps and forearms. I still needed the rest on legs and this would sync us up for our saturday workouts. I had a great workout. I have lost all of the fluff from Thanksgiving and am right where I was at 199 3/4. I feel bigger and maybe the slightest bit leaner. Lots of positive agression and my joints are holding up very well. My elbow didn't even hurt after upright row and I was givin that crap all I had. Very Alpha Male right now in a positive way not snapping at anyone or anything. My muscles feel very hard and dense.
I am also really enjoying DC so far. Speaking of here is todays workout.
Flat Barbell Bench - 235x12-3-2-1 = 18 Up 10 lbs from Thursday and initial set was only 1 shy of the 13 at 225. Nice jump in weight and it felt better. I think when I get to 20 I am going to 240-245. My friend pushed me to get back under for that last one so I had ti do it. :bigok:
70lb stretch 60 seconds, man was that fun....
Wide Grip Upright Rows - 155x7-4-2 = 13, DC Shoulder stretch 60 seconds man I was grunting ripping it and not stopping til that pitiful half rep attempt. Very exlosive with a nice controlled lowering. Was the kind of set you just feel you worked your ass off. That was a test of that tendonitis, it didn't hurt and normally it would ache but it isnt yet so far so good. No pain at all!!!
Incline Over head Cable Triceps Ext. Machine - 110x10-4-2=16 50lb stretch 60 seconds Man I really love these as opposed to lying tricep extensions because of the constant tension.
Front wide grip pulldown - 200x14-7-3 24 Man this really felt good but going to go up 20 lbs on this see where I am in rep range. If still over 20 I keep moving up.
TBar Rows = 4 plates x12-5-4 =21 Going up I have decided 20 is my cut off before going up.
60 second wide grip chin hang wrapped for grip did flutter kicks for abs while hanging.
Honestly the workout was awesome. I am going to be changing my rep range to 15 - 20 but if I move up in weight and get 13 I am going to stick to that weight and just keep adding reps at that instead of dropping weight. I can already feel my body recovering from less frequency. Well except for the hammies, but that is a reoccurring issue...
Holy crap your rowing with the big boys.. seriously I am an animal when it comes to back thickness and 12 X 4 plates I would find quite challenging. Just make sure you keep your Gorilla like stance, shoulders up but out. Easier if your a bit sway backed.
thundergod
Well-known member
Really solid numbers and an uber-intense workout Mr. Kleen. You have made the transition to DC style very smoothly. Your body will thank you for the lower volume. And your muscles will thank you for the increased intensity.
It's time for some insane muscle growth bro!!!! :stupid: :aargh4:
Keep slaying dat shit!!!:firedevil:
It's time for some insane muscle growth bro!!!! :stupid: :aargh4:
Keep slaying dat shit!!!:firedevil:
orbitron3000
Active member
kleen, sorry i've been absent this week -- been mentally prepping for yesterday's competition. glad you're enjoying DC, it's definitely something i've considered trying as my next w/o plan. numbers and weight are lookin really solid, man! always impressed in this log :thumbsup:
MrKleen73
Legend
Thanks!
Oh it was a completely all out effort. A couple of second pauses holding extended. Oh yeah I arched my back and threw my chest out big time. I love that friggin intensity!
Thanks! Yeah I am going to blow up, I think my muscle is going to really respond to this. The extra recovery alone is going to be great.
Thanks! So far I love it. If you like intensity and testing yourself with enough time for recovery in between bouts, then this may be right up your alley! :bigok:
Army Guy
Well-known member
Agree with GMG, holly crap those are some great numbers with the stretching. The rest of it looks fantastic as well. Jumping up 10 on bench like you did, do you chalk that one up to Prime, good workout vs average workout, or just sheer determination and luck??? Great job bro!!!
thundergod
Well-known member
You simply must adventure into unknown territories with a routine like DC. It is completely imperative that you attempt weights that you only dreamed about before.
Don't let a "number" cause you apprehension nor fear. I've always looked at it like, if mere mortals can lift this much, then the God of Thunder will have NO problem with it!!!!:angryfire:
To quote the Thundergod. "You'll never know......until you go"!!!!! :firedevil: :hammer:
MrKleen73
Legend
Day 17 - PRIME dose goes up today. Diet becomes stricter.
I don't really have a workout update. I am feeling a head cold come on and trying to fight it off. I was supposed to get up and do cardio today but decided to get the rest in. Keep myself healthy for lifting days....
Sometimes we are the S and sometimes we are the M, that day I was the M, a wee bit masochistic... LOL I was hating life at 30 seconds and wishing I had picked up lighter weight by about 49 seconds. SO I will definitely be going up to 75 next time. LOL After that it will be time testing, going up every time I am able to get to a 90 second stretch.
PRIME is definitely kicking in. I feel great muscle wise I want to go lift. I know I shouldn't because I have a nasty head cold but tomorrow it is on!!!! Hoping I get to 20 at bench quickly, I wanna hit 245 and see what rep range that falls into for me.
I mean I guess I could go to 240, BUT WHY????
I love the stretch though and will keep making it harder and harder. I can see the fascia stretch and then fill up with blood especially in my quads and my triceps. They just hang off the knee and back of the arm like slabs of beef after stretching them.
Man I love this crap, it is awesome it makes you want to push harder and see where your limits are so you can bust through them. So far all of the recovery it hasn't been an issue at all for my tendonitis.
Thanks Big!
Okay so I have been eyeballing and estimating calories throughout the beginning of this log but decided to give the Lean Mass gain portion of this diet just as much attention as I would the "Cutting" portion and see exactly what I can get out of this eating as close to this as possible. I will have 50-100 grams of carbs post workouts, and other than that 1/2 grapefruit twice a day a serving or two of blue berries. The only other carbohydrates will be the limited carbs in greens eaten 1-2 serving a day. However these carbs are not counted in daily calories as they are very specific uses and are pretty constant. Overall you can assume an extra 200 or so calories on uncounted calories from uncounted protein and carb sources in the diet. These are not of any concern with this dietary program. I followed this a good bit duringmy cut last year and had great results so I am applying it to my mass diet as well.
3000 Calorie Plan
Total 336 protein 180 fats Cals = 2964
Meal 1
4 Egg Whites
6 Whole DHA eggs
56g protein, 30g fat
Meal 2
2.75 scoops Whey
36 Almonds or 12tsp Peanut Butter or 6 oz Avocado or 6tsp Olive/Flax/Enova Oil
56g protein, 30g fat
Meal 3
8 oz Lean Meat (Fish, Chicken, Beef)
36 Almonds or 12tsp Peanut Butter or 6 oz Avocado or 6tsp Olive/Flax/Enova Oil
56g protein, 30g fat
Meal 4
2.75 scoops Whey
36 Almonds or 12tsp Peanut Butter or 6 oz Avocado or 6tsp Olive/Flax/Enova Oil
56g protein, 30g fat
Meal 5
8 oz Lean Meat (Fish, Chicken, Beef)
36 Almonds or 12tsp Peanut Butter or 6 oz Avocado or 6tsp Olive/Flax/Enova Oil
56g protein, 30g fat
Meal 6
4 Egg Whites
6 Whole DHA eggs
56g protein, 30g fat
I don't really have a workout update. I am feeling a head cold come on and trying to fight it off. I was supposed to get up and do cardio today but decided to get the rest in. Keep myself healthy for lifting days....
Sometimes we are the S and sometimes we are the M, that day I was the M, a wee bit masochistic... LOL I was hating life at 30 seconds and wishing I had picked up lighter weight by about 49 seconds. SO I will definitely be going up to 75 next time. LOL After that it will be time testing, going up every time I am able to get to a 90 second stretch.
PRIME is definitely kicking in. I feel great muscle wise I want to go lift. I know I shouldn't because I have a nasty head cold but tomorrow it is on!!!! Hoping I get to 20 at bench quickly, I wanna hit 245 and see what rep range that falls into for me.
I mean I guess I could go to 240, BUT WHY????I love the stretch though and will keep making it harder and harder. I can see the fascia stretch and then fill up with blood especially in my quads and my triceps. They just hang off the knee and back of the arm like slabs of beef after stretching them.
Man I love this crap, it is awesome it makes you want to push harder and see where your limits are so you can bust through them. So far all of the recovery it hasn't been an issue at all for my tendonitis.
Thanks Big!
Okay so I have been eyeballing and estimating calories throughout the beginning of this log but decided to give the Lean Mass gain portion of this diet just as much attention as I would the "Cutting" portion and see exactly what I can get out of this eating as close to this as possible. I will have 50-100 grams of carbs post workouts, and other than that 1/2 grapefruit twice a day a serving or two of blue berries. The only other carbohydrates will be the limited carbs in greens eaten 1-2 serving a day. However these carbs are not counted in daily calories as they are very specific uses and are pretty constant. Overall you can assume an extra 200 or so calories on uncounted calories from uncounted protein and carb sources in the diet. These are not of any concern with this dietary program. I followed this a good bit duringmy cut last year and had great results so I am applying it to my mass diet as well.
3000 Calorie Plan
Total 336 protein 180 fats Cals = 2964
Meal 1
4 Egg Whites
6 Whole DHA eggs
56g protein, 30g fat
Meal 2
2.75 scoops Whey
36 Almonds or 12tsp Peanut Butter or 6 oz Avocado or 6tsp Olive/Flax/Enova Oil
56g protein, 30g fat
Meal 3
8 oz Lean Meat (Fish, Chicken, Beef)
36 Almonds or 12tsp Peanut Butter or 6 oz Avocado or 6tsp Olive/Flax/Enova Oil
56g protein, 30g fat
Meal 4
2.75 scoops Whey
36 Almonds or 12tsp Peanut Butter or 6 oz Avocado or 6tsp Olive/Flax/Enova Oil
56g protein, 30g fat
Meal 5
8 oz Lean Meat (Fish, Chicken, Beef)
36 Almonds or 12tsp Peanut Butter or 6 oz Avocado or 6tsp Olive/Flax/Enova Oil
56g protein, 30g fat
Meal 6
4 Egg Whites
6 Whole DHA eggs
56g protein, 30g fat
Irish Cannon
Legend
Keto...ugh.
Looks great, man. :thumbsup:
Looks great, man. :thumbsup:
DreamWeaver
Legend
Since nutrient partitioning supps like AP and Glycobol I don't feel the need to go so low on carbs.
Irish Cannon
Legend
Don't forget SLIN!
I feel the same way. Ever since I upped my dose of SLIN, I immediately noticed a decrease in fat storage. I haven't been so ginger with my carbs since last week. It was seriously that sudden. Like two days after adding in a couple more doses and it made a huge difference.
MrKleen73
Legend
HaHa, almost keto anyway. With the extra carbs from the mass quantities of almonds and 62 grams of carbs from the grapefruit and blueberries I will be around 100 grams carbs on non workout days and 150-200grams of carbs on workout days.
I don't feel I have to go this low but I do have better control and consistensy with this type of diet. The moment my carbs reach anything over 150-200 I start holding water. Also as long as I keep the carbs after strenuous activity I still have plenty of strength for lifting. The cool thing about AP is it does not require carbs to do it's thing and as a matter of fact helps getting into ketosis. While also helping shuttle nutrients into the muscle.
I have seen what I can do with carbs up to 30-40% on my last bulk. I gain lean mass but look a little softer than I want too. Now I want to see if I can still gain mass this way and look all that much tighter at the end so there is less adjusting. Also If I eat this way all the way from now on into my prep as well I will be better able to throw in a few Peak week practices without having to change up my diet too much. That and I will dry out which keeps my skin tighter. It is a preference thing. I just feel I do better this way. So I expect some of my weights to go down a little at first but I am going to do my best not to allow that to happen.
I also expect to drop a little water weight at first but we will see how that all works out.
GMG760
Well-known member
I'm not saying not to push yourself... just 70lbs on a chest stretch would be on the unsafe side of things for me. It obviously isn't for Kleen. :twisted:
MrKleen73
Legend
Or I am an idiot with a high pain threshhold... LOL I don't feel like I am in any danger of hurting anything. That stretching is funny, you get under there and initially it is a light stretch then it starts to burn a bit, then you start feeling the seperation and it feels sooooo good but so painfull at the same time.
Funny thing is you feel like you are going to rip apart then get up and wonder if you did it hard enough or held it long enough or if you were a wimp about it. LOL I feel myself grimacing from the pain and strain, then wonder if I did enough. LOL I wonder just how much would something have to hurt for me to get up and go yep that is how I am supposed to feel. LOL
John Smeton
Legend
Kleen most back thickness exercises are not rest pauses they are strait setted due to being so demanding, something like cable rows could be rest paused...same thing with quads,,same thing with sldl for hammies
Irish Cannon
Legend
I R/Ped all the big lifts, less Back Squats. :dunno:
thundergod
Well-known member
I knew what you were saying. I was merely attempting to be my old supportive self.
What I said wasn't really concerning the stretches anyway. I was talking about DC training in general. You must push way beyond the norm.
The Army says, "Be all you can be." :drillsergeant:
But the Thundergod says, "Be MORE than you are"!!!! :yup: :twisted:
I'm simply trying to inspire others to strive to out perform all their previous efforts with the iron. This is the sure fire way to progress and grow. :deal:
DreamWeaver
Legend
I agree with the attitude but the program is fairly clear as to when to increase poundage. I will bring the attitude but the technician goes with it. I will not use any loose form on this routine whatsoever. When I reach failure I will not try and cheat another rep, I will use a spotter and do a forced rep though. This way I can still take advantage of the intensity without hammering my joints too much. Longevity in the sport becomes more keyed on using proper technique and if that means I have to take weight off the bar so be it. I am growing better than I have in years by keeping extremely tight form, and focussing on the mind muscle connection.
Not saying this is not what you do, I for one though have often let my form slip in the face of intensity. I just have to train smarter and I have been recently. Make it hurt that's what counts... :bigok:
thundergod
Well-known member
I'm like Arnold. Just get the weight up any way that you can. Sling it. throw it, kick it!!! ha ha :icon_lol:
I hope that you realize that I'm just kidding DW. I use very strict form to make sure that I'm working the muscle. Not the tendons, ligaments, and so on.
They get enough involvement with the secondary stresses.
But I will say that I've watched the majority of the pro's on youtube. And their form is anything but perfect. Yet, they're fuggin' monsters. There's a fine line between going TOO strict and using baby weights that wouldn't make a roid freak grow and using heavy enough weights with just a bit of "body english" to make sure you're really working those muscles.
My heaviest sets may not be the absolute strictest thing you ever witnessed, but my drop sets where I lighten the load, are picture perfect. I think it takes the best of both worlds to maximize strength and growth.
This is only the opinion of a tiny little Thundergod. If I'd quit all that cheating, maybe I'd grow!!!! :toofunny:
I hope that you realize that I'm just kidding DW. I use very strict form to make sure that I'm working the muscle. Not the tendons, ligaments, and so on.
They get enough involvement with the secondary stresses.
But I will say that I've watched the majority of the pro's on youtube. And their form is anything but perfect. Yet, they're fuggin' monsters. There's a fine line between going TOO strict and using baby weights that wouldn't make a roid freak grow and using heavy enough weights with just a bit of "body english" to make sure you're really working those muscles.
My heaviest sets may not be the absolute strictest thing you ever witnessed, but my drop sets where I lighten the load, are picture perfect. I think it takes the best of both worlds to maximize strength and growth.
This is only the opinion of a tiny little Thundergod. If I'd quit all that cheating, maybe I'd grow!!!! :toofunny:
DreamWeaver
Legend
That has always perplexed me, being a natural and having trained many very strong guys naturally I can tell you with absolute certainty that what I have seen these guys doing will not work for someone who is not using. Let me tell you what would happen to me if I did what they did. Nothing ... nadda and then I would end up in the hospital .. not much muscle growth on the gurney. Loose form works very poorly on natural athletes. Some of the stuff they take must really help the joints too.
That being said there are exercises where some milder form of loose form can be utilized to break through plateaus. Just not like we see the pros doing.
MrKleen73
Legend
I knew that but got caught up in the moment and I was working off his program he has set up.
I can see the reason not to do the RP just as a safety precaution.
Yep, the beat the log mentality will get you there.
I see it on both ends here and use a little of both. I am strict with form but a cheat rep using a little momentum is fine as long as the form modification is not an unsafe practice. Military press may get one or two partial push presses. I may use shoulders a little more than I should to get an extra rep or two when curling. However I don't allow wiggling under the weight to get it up or any of that.
MrKleen73
Legend
Day 18 - Congratulations Another God Daughter born!
Hey everybody, I don't have a workout to tell you about today. My God Daughter was born last night. We got their other kids around midnight and I had a hard time falling back to sleep. Then we of course were taking care of extra chillins so I did not attempt to go to the gym. That and my cold is still lingering so one more day. I will just do my upper and lower body workouts back to back tomorrow and Thursday.
My hamstring thing is definitely nerve related. I haven't worked them at all and it flared up a little this morning. I have apinched nerve somewhere in there. FUN! Well after Christmas I will get to a chiro and have them pull on my leg. LOL For now the money goes to the kiddos that and my anniversary is on the 15th this month will be 7 years, no itch in sight.
Well I will workout tomorrow and see how things go. Not going to baby the hamstring too much, but not going to kill it just yet either... well we will see how it feels with weight on it tomorrow.
Hey everybody, I don't have a workout to tell you about today. My God Daughter was born last night. We got their other kids around midnight and I had a hard time falling back to sleep. Then we of course were taking care of extra chillins so I did not attempt to go to the gym. That and my cold is still lingering so one more day. I will just do my upper and lower body workouts back to back tomorrow and Thursday.
My hamstring thing is definitely nerve related. I haven't worked them at all and it flared up a little this morning. I have apinched nerve somewhere in there. FUN! Well after Christmas I will get to a chiro and have them pull on my leg. LOL For now the money goes to the kiddos that and my anniversary is on the 15th this month will be 7 years, no itch in sight.
Well I will workout tomorrow and see how things go. Not going to baby the hamstring too much, but not going to kill it just yet either... well we will see how it feels with weight on it tomorrow.
thundergod
Well-known member
Congrats on both accounts warrior!!! :clap2:Hey everybody, I don't have a workout to tell you about today. My God Daughter was born last night.
And my anniversary is on the 15th this month will be 7 years, no itch in sight.
A_I_Sports_Nutrition
AI Sports Nutrition
Back from my long weekend of moving furniture and getting hit by a decent snow storm on Saturady night. Looking real good in here mrKleen.
borobulker
Well-known member
Congrats buddy!
GoHardOrGoHme
Board Sponsor
Hey everybody, I don't have a workout to tell you about today. My God Daughter was born last night. We got their other kids around midnight and I had a hard time falling back to sleep. Then we of course were taking care of extra chillins so I did not attempt to go to the gym. That and my cold is still lingering so one more day. I will just do my upper and lower body workouts back to back tomorrow and Thursday.
My hamstring thing is definitely nerve related. I haven't worked them at all and it flared up a little this morning. I have apinched nerve somewhere in there. FUN! Well after Christmas I will get to a chiro and have them pull on my leg. LOL For now the money goes to the kiddos that and my anniversary is on the 15th this month will be 7 years, no itch in sight.
Well I will workout tomorrow and see how things go. Not going to baby the hamstring too much, but not going to kill it just yet either... well we will see how it feels with weight on it tomorrow.
Congrats on the God Daughter!! May you guide her relationship with the Lord with honesty and integrity.
Congrats on the 7 years!! Marriage is a beautiful thing and i hope you enjoy it for every anniversary to come!
The hammy problem seems kinda serious im glad ur going to get it checked just make sure not to further aggrevate it till you get to the DO.
MrKleen73
Legend
Now you are talking crazy, let it be until I get to a doctor... How about... feel it out and be as safe as you can be. LOL I keep going back and forth on the fence as to if it is nerver or just very tight. I forgot about the fact I did tax them doing the t bar rows.
I am removing Stiff leg dead lifts and replacing them with sumo leg press in order to limit some of the strain on the tie in area. I am also going to add in the upright rows since they did not hurt me. My traps are already swollen from just that one workout. Shoulders are really full too! Onward and upward with the log book just have to get new baselines for an exercise or two. No big deal. We do what we gotta do to make it work for us right!
I am removing Stiff leg dead lifts and replacing them with sumo leg press in order to limit some of the strain on the tie in area. I am also going to add in the upright rows since they did not hurt me. My traps are already swollen from just that one workout. Shoulders are really full too! Onward and upward with the log book just have to get new baselines for an exercise or two. No big deal. We do what we gotta do to make it work for us right!
GoHardOrGoHme
Board Sponsor
Exactly bro, little tweaks here and there add years to the lifting career.
orbitron3000
Active member
congratulations, godfather! gonna make someone an offer we can't refuse?
orbitron3000
Active member
hey kleen, got a new log going. Invalid Link Removed
MrKleen73
Legend
Thanks Guys!
I am all over it Bro!
danieltx13
Member
A good way to tell if it's a nerve / disc problem is to lay flat on your back and whatever leg the hamstring is bothering you on, keep it straight and raise it up to where it's pointing at the ceiling. If you can't raise it all the way without pain or can't get it all the way at all then it's definitely a disc pressing on the nerve. Go to a doctor if that's the case.
MrBigPR
NutraPlanet Rep
I know how you feel on the hamstring problems. I got mine from long 12 hour trips around Europe and such. Acts up every once and a while.
Are you drinking your shakes with straight water? What about the meat weight pre cooked as opposed to post cooked. That extra bit of calories in the milk could help rid some glycogen and cut you up a little bit. I noticed when I tightened up my consumption of milk to shakes only and measured it out to a tee it actually helped with a bit of "weight" loss. I'm talking more pronounced v taper and such. The little things.
Are you drinking your shakes with straight water? What about the meat weight pre cooked as opposed to post cooked. That extra bit of calories in the milk could help rid some glycogen and cut you up a little bit. I noticed when I tightened up my consumption of milk to shakes only and measured it out to a tee it actually helped with a bit of "weight" loss. I'm talking more pronounced v taper and such. The little things.
MrKleen73
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Hmmm. I will have to check that out.
Yeah I weigh food before cooking, when i am weighing. I normally only weigh when cutting otherwise I eyeball enough in the protien department. I am sure I get over and under some meals but it averages out. I will be measuring some things and others I wont. I know I need 2 chicken breast to get to my protien requirement and sometime a half of another if not that big. I weigh ground beef though. Salmon I get about 9 oz, I have them cut at 6 oz peices and I eat 1.5 of them. A protien shake, and other stuff is out of a can so I just read the lable. I know I need 2 cans of tuna, or 1 15 oz can of salmon makes 2 servings for me. Oh yeah, I only have my shakes with water. I just wasn't eating as clean as I wanted to so I set myself to more of a rigid diet when it came to carbs. I may add more carbs to it here and there and just subract some of the fat for that meal. Overall though I just do better on lower carb higher fat diets.
As for my hamstrings, I did just do 2 heavy ass months on my legs pushing for heavier and heavier deads and squats, while widening my stance in squat which makes it more hamstring intensive. I just think they are ready for a little less attention right now. I can afford to rest them a bit my hamstrings are not a weak point by any means. If still giving me trouble next leg workout I will go back to stretching them and only doing the quad exercise. Hopefully they are fine. They help up through this mornings workout. :bigok: