I don’t think any human could handle that dosage and remain upright lol
He had me use Halotestin as well. Last 7 days. My body was high rolling in gear..Wise choice. MTren is something you pin in the bathroom before hoisting maximal weights at a powerlifting meet. I’m not too keen on Mtren use in the bodybuilding world. I’m guessing a bodybuilder would use it like halotestin? To retain strength in a major caloric deficit in an extremely short duration for that grainy loom on show day? But this “coach’s” layout is obscenely harsh on all fronts, especially with the methyl tren.
Still standing.. lol.. did the exact cycle except for Mtren.. included IGF-LR3, Humalog pre and post and GHRP-6.. I am walking experiment..I don’t think any human could handle that dosage and remain upright lol
Halo is amazing and has its place. The strength and endurance factor makes you feel like a God. About a week is all that one can take with that. Mtren is halo on crack times 1000.He had me use Halotestin as well. Last 7 days. My body was high rolling in gear..
The Mtren was what I was referring to lolStill standing.. lol.. did the exact cycle except for Mtren.. included IGF-LR3, Humalog pre and post and GHRP-6.. I am walking experiment..
I honestly just felt like a peasant. 3hrs cardio, weight training and on top of that all the gear with just 180gms protein no carbs or fat for 2 weeks.Halo is amazing and has its place. The strength and endurance factor makes you feel like a God. About a week is all that one can take with that. Mtren is halo on crack times 1000.
That’s exactly how I’ve seen it used on some bodybuilding forums. Injectable Mtren the last few weeks to get that androgenic hardnes while staying full, for guys who don’t get on as well with Tren, or as a less virilizing option for women (between the two).Wise choice. MTren is something you pin in the bathroom before hoisting maximal weights at a powerlifting meet. I’m not too keen on Mtren use in the bodybuilding world. I’m guessing a bodybuilder would use it like halotestin? To retain strength in a major caloric deficit in an extremely short duration for that grainy loom on show day? But this “coach’s” layout is obscenely harsh on all fronts, especially with the methyl tren.
reminds me of when I make eggs Benedict. gotta use yolks for the Hollandaise so I end up with tons of extra whites and I don't waste themToday was a good day. Last few days were kinda hectic not that it wasn’t today, but, I was able to get all my meals in. I had 2 video shoots today at different gyms. It was fun. This was the first time I have done a video shoot done by a professional. Took about 6hrs for both the shoot. But, lot of good stuff.
And this was a satisfied meal 1
1) Choco chip pan cake
2) 3 whole eggs and 3 egg whites
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Pancakes everyday for me.. Got some blueberry ones and few other flavors..I love Pancakes !!
Yum !! I used to make Protein Powder pancakes on the weekends but I have not done that in a few years.Pancakes everyday for me.. Got some blueberry ones and few other flavors..
Fuk, he can't even justify or give rational reason why he was wanting you to run that hideous stack. The fact he seemed to me like "oh you don't like that idea? OK try this then..." If I were a coach I'd have reasons for any recommendation, reasons I'd be more than prepared to present to the client to convince them of why I think my plan is a good one. You're absolutely right, it seems like he's just rattling off drug menu templates. Crapola.Looks like he’s just pulling it out from some template he has. I spoke to him and asked why do I have to do this heavy cycle when all I am trying to do is recover from the cycle I did before. He was like, let’s then do 500mg test, 5iU of Humalog pre and post and 8iU of GH.
He had given me Mtren in a plan before (which is exactly the same gear plan he shared 20 odd weeks ago) and when I read about it’s hepatotoxic, I told him I wasn’t going to do it.
This time, When my liver values are already out of range, he adds this **** on top.
So. This is my plan and I have started to execute: Took my first shot of 50mg test and 50mg primo today. I’ll do 150mg of each per week and push my training and food..
So, from what I understood after talking and hearing experiences of other bodybuilders with their coaches, there is not really any one who cares about athlete's health and doesn't have the knowledge either. They don't try and analyze or understand the athlete and see how to use less gear and maximum out of them.Fuk, he can't even justify or give rational reason why he was wanting you to run that hideous stack. The fact he seemed to me like "oh you don't like that idea? OK try this then..." If I were a coach I'd have reasons for any recommendation, reasons I'd be more than prepared to present to the client to convince them of why I think my plan is a good one. You're absolutely right, it seems like he's just rattling off drug menu templates. Crapola.
I just felt compelled to reiterate what everyone else including yourself was saying about this guy, for whatever it's worth
Ugh, these stories suck to hear but unfortunately they're not surprising either. Humans gonna human.So, from what I understood after talking and hearing experiences of other bodybuilders with their coaches, there is not really any one who cares about athlete's health and doesn't have the knowledge either. They don't try and analyze or understand the athlete and see how to use less gear and maximum out of them.
I had a guy approach me yesterday with acnes all over his chest and arms. Apparently, his coach gave him the cycle and he has had terrible breakouts. Now, he's gone cold turkey and no PCT. His coach hasn't even recommended what to do after the competition and it has been a more than 15days. I suggested to get a blood test done and then start PCT since he's not looking at continuing. He didn't even know what PCT is. I don't blame him coz this was his first time dabbling with gear.
I guess one bad experience is all it takes.
Earning in Indian Rupees doesn't help.. lol.. So, I have started to read and self learn. Currently reading the book Anabolics and Dr.Scott Stevenson's book to get some idea on how I can move ahead on my own. It would have definitely helped to learn directly from a good coach. But, unless my financial situation changes hopefully in a couple months, I will do this off-season on my own and learn from it.Ugh, these stories suck to hear but unfortunately they're not surprising either. Humans gonna human.
I know you've already been down this road, but it's pretty clear that a good coach who has experience,
and will have your health in mind and not treat you entirely like a template is also likely going to cost alot to hire. There must be lower tier coaches out there who fit this criteria but are also more affordable but how the hell do you identify them with any confidence. The only guys I'd be prepared to hire I couldn't justify the cost lol so I empathize with your position.
Nice bike! In a third-life crisis period in my life, I went and got my motorcycle license, but never followed through with buying a bike. I'm more of a crotch rocket type myself, but I can always appreciate other styles!Today was a good day. Last few days were kinda hectic not that it wasn’t today, but, I was able to get all my meals in. I had 2 video shoots today at different gyms. It was fun. This was the first time I have done a video shoot done by a professional. Took about 6hrs for both the shoot. But, lot of good stuff.
And this was a satisfied meal 1
1) Choco chip pan cake
2) 3 whole eggs and 3 egg whites
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I have a ride coming up on Saturday. So, after almost a year, going on a ride with my beauty
Been a motorcyclist at heart ever since I knew what motorcycles were.. Had to give my bike before marriage because of financial commitments and so called "marriage compromise". This is my first motorcycle after 5yrs and I feel alive every time I am on it.Nice bike! In a third-life crisis period in my life, I went and got my motorcycle license, but never followed through with buying a bike. I'm more of a crotch rocket type myself, but I can always appreciate other styles!
Royal Enfield.. It's a 650CC parallel twin engine..Who builds that bike ?
It looks like one of our older model Triumph or BSA'sRoyal Enfield.. It's a 650CC parallel twin engine..
More or less, yes.. the design is retro for sure..It looks like one of our older model Triumph or BSA's
I Like It !!More or less, yes.. the design is retro for sure..
Blown away! Going to save this so that I can read it over and over.. seriously.. I am sure along the way, I’ll get lost as to what next. This is definitely going to help to assess my progress and what to change.You don’t need a coach for off-season drugs. It doesn’t really matter how you look on any given day. It matters that your training and food metabolism have progression. The end goal of an off-season is that the total training load increases methodically, as well as your ability to turn over greater & greater quantities of meat & rice, essentially.
Drugs, start at a baseline of 1 or 2 compounds and once your health gets in check begin assessing every 2 weeks if you feel progress is continuing or if you need to add a bit of food. If that’s been done and progress still halted, bump the total mg of oil. You just continue constantly assessing if you should slightly bump calories or not, then gear or not.
Example: 150/150 test primo for 6 weeks and your bloods come back good. You are maintaining on a fairly regimented meal plan of 2,500 calories. You bump to 27-2800. What does the scale and mirror say at week 8? Progress stalling, okay we add 100-200mg of total gear. Week 10, things slowed again now we bump to 3,000 calories. Week 12, things are rolling so we don’t change anything. Week 14, we slow and seem to mainly just added a nip of fat so we go to 7-750mg total. Week 16 things are tightening back up so we leave it. Week 18 we go to 3,200 calories, week 20 bump to 1g of total oil, and so on.
These are just parroted ideas; your results may vary, but this is some stuff I’ve heard Alex Kikel put forth, Victor Black, and diet-wise Justin Harris as well. Train hard and creep the non-toxic drugs and food intake up. Even Matt Jansen for his normal guys. Matt also mentioned he will use Nolva before actually lowering estrogen with Exemestane because he can get away with less AI and the loss of IGF1 isn’t as relevant when you are pinning exogenous HGH twice a day.
You have the uncanny ability seemingly to take orals and not have atherosclerotic lipid ranges, so you may be able to incorporate orals like Dbol, Tbol, Var, Adrol later at some point when you hit sticking points. BUT, this should be months from now and only if your liver enzymes get back to normal. Most guys should never use orals in the off-season (except maybe the last 6-8 weeks IF THEY NEED THEM) due to lipid impact and save them for precontest. Some guys who just use all testosterone will use some Proviron later on.Blown away! Going to save this so that I can read it over and over.. seriously.. I am sure along the way, I’ll get lost as to what next. This is definitely going to help to assess my progress and what to change.
Thank you so much.
This@jtmass - I think you may want to hire @Hyde as your next coach. (Not Joking)
@Hyde wanna give a shot at this?@jtmass - I think you may want to hire @Hyde as your next coach. (Not Joking)
Lol you don’t want someone 25% bodyfat who doesn’t bodybuild giving you in-depth advice on things he hasn’t done. I mean I have trained for and built some size, & that’s fairly simple to an initial point, so I feel confident talking about off-season stuff, but that’s rather different from prep and especially peaking for stage.@Hyde wanna give a shot at this?
If BF was a a factor, every bodybuilder could be a coach.. Look at Hany Rambod. He’s definitely not 5% BF. I think I have a good handle on diet and training. I can assess progress. But, where I definitely need help is, PEDs. Like you said, when to add or take out compounds.. when to reduce dosage or increase..Lol you don’t want someone 25% bodyfat who doesn’t bodybuild giving you in-depth advice on things he hasn’t done. I mean I have trained for and built some size, & that’s fairly simple to an initial point, so I feel confident talking about off-season stuff, but that’s rather different from prep and especially peaking for stage.
But I’m always happy to discuss opinions/experience with drugs, food choice, and how to lift for free.
Yeah they don’t call him the Pro Creator for his own physiqueIf BF was a a factor, every bodybuilder could be a coach.. Look at Hany Rambod. He’s definitely not 5% BF. I think I have a good handle on diet and training. I can assess progress. But, where I definitely need help is, PEDs. Like you said, when to add or take out compounds.. when to reduce dosage or increase..
RepliedYeah they don’t call him the Pro Creator for his own physique
PM’d you
I don't get notifications for my own thread a lot of times.. haha..Idk why I haven't been getting alerts for this thread, I'm way behind.
But I'm a little scared, I opened the thread and the first thing I see is a cycle with 120mg of orals per day....
Don’t forget the 2mg of oral Mtren/day for 6 week with that, and the 2g weekly oilIdk why I haven't been getting alerts for this thread, I'm way behind.
But I'm a little scared, I opened the thread and the first thing I see is a cycle with 120mg of orals per day....
That's what kept me alive till date.. How could I.. lolDon’t forget the 2mg of oral Mtren/day for 6 week with that, and the 2g weekly oil
I didn't even notice that, it's rediculous.Don’t forget the 2mg of oral Mtren/day for 6 week with that, and the 2g weekly oil
Ok so same douchebag. Ya that's crazy. Aside from the fact that your at a time when the gear is the least importance,I don't get notifications for my own thread a lot of times.. haha..
Yeah.. So, that's why, I cannot work with him anymore. Instead of telling me, it's time for us to back off and get your health back, he gives me a gigantic cycle which probably will destroy me this time..