tim1985
Well-known member
I'll keep my eye out for this. (1) 1.5 scoop sample would be sufficient imo, due to the fact this type of product kicks in on the first dose. 1 dose should be enough for people to see/feel what it can do.
Jacked VS. JP8
- Thread starter jdg487
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I'll keep my eye out for this. (1) 1.5 scoop sample would be sufficient imo, due to the fact this type of product kicks in on the first dose. 1 dose should be enough for people to see/feel what it can do.
b unit
Well-known member
feedback is one thing..
what really matters is how many people brought R4W or Coq after trying samples of them, isn't that what it's all about?
i know there's been samples in my nutra orders that i've tried and the very next order I've made at nutra i've bought a bottle or 2 of what i sampled, a good example of this was AN's RPM.
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
In reality, I think it best that each company has a contest in three distinct phases:
a) Dance Battle.
b) "Sample-Off".
c) We see who can pee farther.
I think each option fits the general tone and direction of this thread well!
a) Dance Battle.
b) "Sample-Off".
c) We see who can pee farther.
I think each option fits the general tone and direction of this thread well!
Steveoph
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
I got my JP8 a while back; only used it once before things got crazy with exams, and I didn't want any more stims to stress my body. But I'm done tonight, and I'll be giving it another go or two in the next few days and will post up a mini-review. My 1st use was interesting; not sure what it was, but about 45 mins in I was getting really angry/ticked off to the point where I had to stop my workout because I couldnt focus; 1 scoop. Coulda been something else since things have been stressful, so I've witheld any review. I did try Jacked once, but that also didn't go well as I was super tired, so I'm hoping to be able to make a fairer assesment soon.
brk_nemesis
yea!!!!!
I will also add the 2-3 times I worked out about 25-30 minutes after ingestion of JP8, were the only times I actually felt nausea or kinda sick. The times I have followed the correct directions and waited an hour, I had some insane workouts. So for anyone having stomach problems from JP8,.... might want to correct this if they haven't already.
b unit
Well-known member
OzzY SluGGa
Banned
Thats a damn good idea....but one im sure the Aussies/Kiwis will be left out in the cold! *sigh*
OzzY SluGGa
Banned
How bout we just trim it down to the sample off.....
BuddyBuilder
Member
bludevil
Well-known member
:veryhappy:, this is the 1st thread I look at when logging into AM. It's like a fine wine, it keeps getting better with time.
IRON4LIFE
Member
Just a little more praise for JP8...after 3rd day of using ...i hit a PR on squats yesterday...315x15 ATG...in the past ive been able to squeeze out 10-12 however the focus and drive from JP8 allowed me to push past and grab a few more reps...this post was intended simply to promote the intensity/focus that JP8 creates not to boast about squat PR's..... just wanted to update this thread with more of my experiences with JP8
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
Well, I suppose that is less of a logistical nightmare!
EasyEJL
Never enough
although it wont be nearly as interesting on youtube
worm
Member
I tried jacked for the first time on monday the pump was good about the same as most the other preworkout pump type products that I have tried. But the energy was insane. I have a pretty high tolerance for stims so I went ahead and did three scoops the first time. That was at like 1:00 in the afternoon and I still had trouble falling asleep that night. I loved it though. I'm going to use it again tomorrow at one or two scoops and see how that goes. I don't have to work saturday so no big deal if it keeps me up a while.
OzzY SluGGa
Banned
brk_nemesis
yea!!!!!
yup same here bro,.... the focus and endurance is awesome.
On a side note I gave a friend of mine 2 scoops of JP8 in a zip lock bag to try as he has been searching for a pre w/o supp to help him get through his routines. He texted me this afternoon telling me it tasted rather horrid, and I replied to him to wait an hour and then go w/o, then call me later and tell me how much he liked it. I never heard from him, so I gave him a call,... and he answered as he was walking out of the gym. Apparently he has such a great workout, he worked out for an hour and a 1/2 and lost tract of time. So guess whose getting some JP8 now,..LOL.
subweevil
Well-known member
I love my JP8, and so do my buddies!! Every time I get a tub of it, I can't help but tell everyone how good it is, which leads to them wanting some, if not trying to get the whole tub off of me!! Sucks, 'cuz one tub only lasts me like half as long as it should, and I only ever need about 1 scoop. One guy was like, "why should I buy it when I can bum some offa you for free?" Needless to say, he's not my buddy anymore. One of my favorite things about it is that I don't nose dive after it starts wearing off, and that's a good 4-6 hours later. I only work out for 1-2 hours, so it's awesome to still feel on top of the world for a bit afterwards. I can always tell who's taking the ultra heavy stim based stuff at the gym, they're the guys who come in guns blazing, then are done in 15-20 mins, and talking to everyone about how much "Energy" that product gave them. yeah, okay there chief, you got like another hour to go yet, whatever. Then, as they're leaving they always say "Man, I'm so whooped." Perhaps you should get something with a little more go, and a lot less show? Crashing off a supp is a bummer, that's why it's JP8 for me!! I actually take it on an empty stomach (I ate like 1 hour before and both kinds) like 10-15 mins. before I workout, and no problems at all, so far. For me, personally, I've always taken a pre-workout closer to the gym time than what's recommended, as it always hits me faster than most, although I've always done waht the label says first, jsut to make sure.
IRON4LIFE
Member
Thats some staunch work there brother, nice. Squat or go home!
Thanks bro...appreciate at it...gotta squat to grow....they may make you feel like you wanna die...but there essential to slapping LBM onto your frame
Grambo
Board Sponsor
Picked up some JP8 to compare. I gto 3 of the jacked and alomst out so I decided to try out JP8. I liked Jack3d as far as nice clean pick me up. It wasn't anything amazing but it works well and would get it again. I ma super stim tolerant so it was 3 all the time for me unfortunatey
I am hoping JP8 gives me more of a UMPH with more focus an really looking for aggression. RPM and Core ZAP are some of my favs so looking forward to RW4 complex in JP8. I love that crazy aggression that you an't wait one more second to push iron.
I am hoping JP8 gives me more of a UMPH with more focus an really looking for aggression. RPM and Core ZAP are some of my favs so looking forward to RW4 complex in JP8. I love that crazy aggression that you an't wait one more second to push iron.
OzzY SluGGa
Banned
Great post, EXACTLY my thoughts. Liked my Jacked for sure, obviously a good product but just wasnt amazing for me. But like you I am born with a "stim proof vest" permenantly on. So Im keen to try JP8! LOVE that aggro, get the F**K out of my way Im here to squat kinda attitude
Hoping the JP8 can deliver! But if your not stim proof like me You will def like Jacked. Its solid
DreamWeaver
Legend
Great post, EXACTLY my thoughts. Liked my Jacked for sure, obviously a good product but just wasnt amazing for me. But like you I am born with a "stim proof vest" permenantly on. So Im keen to try JP8! LOVE that aggro, get the F**K out of my way Im here to squat kinda attitude
Hoping the JP8 can deliver! But if your not stim proof like me You will def like Jacked. Its solid
Yah that's me I am so stim sensitive that I can't imagine trying anything that might be stronger...:31:
thebigt
Legend
as someone who doesn't respond to geranium-at all, i am curious about all you guy's saying what great energy jacked gives you. my question is this, how many of you have tried the bulk 3,dime or geranium oil extract available from nutra planet, and how does it compare. i ask this because it must be the geranium giving the energy because i felt no increase in energy at all. for me jacked was a total waste of my money.
DreamWeaver
Legend
I still find it amazing how different people respond to the same products.. the first time I did jacked I was still feeling it 24 hours later and couldn't sleep even though I took it at 3pm and that was on 1 scoop. What a contrast...
thebigt
Legend
but the question remains-have you tried bulk 3,dime or geranium oil extract? i get nothing from geranium products and i got nothing from jacked. so i contend that what you are feeling is just the geranium.
DreamWeaver
Legend
I don't know much about stims, because I have always been so sensitive to them, I have avoided using them. I tried jacked cuz it was a good deal and thought it would make good Xmas presents if I didn't like it. My first experience was pretty wild but I climatized to it. The reason I stuck to it is the stimulation was very euphoric, non-jittery and my focus was very good. I really liked the feeling, just not the fact I couldn't sleep. I feel that the geranium must be a heavy contributor as I have given it to people who are used to cafine and they have really gotten a strong effect.
thebigt
Legend
i agree with your opinion. imo you would get the same feeling from the bulk geranium as from jacked. read some threads about geranium and they are too similar to jacked to be coincidental. my personal opinion is if you like the 'feeling' of jacked add some bulk 3,dime or geranium oil extract to jp8 and have the best of both. btw the bulk geranium is very cheap.
DreamWeaver
Legend
I suppose it's possible... we'll see what others have to say, who have done both...
EasyEJL
Never enough
have you ever tried clearshots?
Kristofer68SS
Well-known member
From what i hear they are nutz.
That and amp..............Never tried either.
Do i need to?
tim1985
Well-known member
I was wondering the same thing. Im a stim junkie and Jacked worked well for me. It doesn't contain very much caffeine so I was thinking it must be the geranium.
Chuck Diesel
Are you Diesel?
Grape JP8 has 3,dime in it.
Chuck Diesel
Are you Diesel?
1,3-Dim.... is way more powerful in water. I can take up to 40mg in capsule form and it wont be close to 20mg in a liquid.
Esox Express
Member
I would agree. I always break the caps and dissolve in liquid.... it hits me a lot faster and it has a much stronger/ more pronounced effect. It tastes nasty though if it's not mixed with juice or something.
EasyEJL
Never enough
true. hmm i hadn't noticed it in jp8 before, because of how it was written. going to have to try jp8
Chuck Diesel
Are you Diesel?
The problem with something like ephedrine or 1,3-Dim is when something like that comes out, people just say "oh its time to do an energy product" and they just throw that in a product with 2 other energy compounds like caffeine and something else and think they have a "top of the line" energy product. Mental focus, energy, training intensity has a lot more to do with just caffeine and another stim. I mean that might be ok for people who never use stim's or get amped off a diet coke, but for most off us, its to "one dimensional."
Grambo
Board Sponsor
I bought some bulk 1,3-Dim tabs from Nutraplanet after everyone raved about it and.......I basically felt like I took a sugar pill, I got zero from it 
They are 60mg too.
I heard someone say they didnt feel it then opened them up in water and they worked much much better. I tried that with one cap and felt the nice smooth energy, but it was nothing extraordinary and I had to grab an energy drink to keep motivated (Studying).
They are 60mg too.I heard someone say they didnt feel it then opened them up in water and they worked much much better. I tried that with one cap and felt the nice smooth energy, but it was nothing extraordinary and I had to grab an energy drink to keep motivated (Studying).
thebigt
Legend
of course, i am a stim junkie. i have tried 99% of every energy/pre-workout supplement that is out. i have never responded to any product that had geranium of any kind as it's main ingredient. i first noticed this with amp 3 years ago, i bought into the hype and bought a bottle- i had virtually no effect even going as high as 8 caps in a 6 hour period. i heard the same kind of hype about clearshot, so i ordered a bottle to try, took whole bottle down in one swig and had no noticeable effect. this is why i can honestly say that most if not all of what everyone is feeling from jacked is just geranium. jp8 is by far the superior product. imo.
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
Of course, though, and with respects to your point, this is nothing more than lofty theoretical speculation; to claim what another user does or does not feel based on your own experience is presumptuous at best, and an efface to the other ingredients at worst. Despite this, though, it is also pointless to describe the physiology of the product. This is an opinion poll, and not a scientific discussion; this being said, let us try to refrain from making objective comments from biased positions - I would do the same, which is why I have kept out of the debate.
Guest
Guest
So according to you caffiene and theophylline have no effect on CNS stimulation? interesting.
Guest
Guest
Generally speaking just because the supplement did not work for you it does not automatically label the supplement as "hype" that is just ridiculous thinking.
thebigt
Legend
but you are in a position to be biased, i am not. as for this being an opinion poll that is what i am doing, voicing an opinion. i offer myself as a very objective reviewer who is not affiliated with any name/brand or company on this forum. for you to call me biased is to funny to be real.:fingersx:
thebigt
Legend
you read what you wanted to, when i refered to hype it was in reference to amp and clearshot. your product was not included in that statement. you must pay more attention to what is actually being said.
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
As funny as you feel it may be, I think it is no illumination you are greatly in favor of Chuck and greatly dislike USPlabs: you have almost always been antagonistic towards me in USPlabs threads, to say the least; I can dig up post history to substantiate what I am saying, but I think there is no need.
At any rate, that is neither here nor there. I merely stated the truth: that making objective commentary about the experience of others is, to put it in your words, too funny to be real. :fingersx:
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
This is the part where you mention you are "a huge fan of PowerFULL, only dislike USP's marketing, and have reviewed a ton of other products aside from Diesel's line"; then you say I am attacking you, and it is characteristic of USPlabs.
thebigt
Legend
do what you have to do, i am just a long time member of this board who is totally honest in my opinions, if my opinions aren't to your liking, sorry about that. btw if my opinions lean towards chucks products it is solely because i have had better results with them, again sorry about that.
Guest
Guest
You okay?
You call AMP and Clear shot hype because of the geranium and proclaim what everyone is "feeling" from Jacked is the geranium....
In addition, I never mention Jack3d in my post. Apparently it's you with the attention problem. You did not read correctly, and I will quote verbatim and but this time highlight key words.
USPlabs said:
"Generally speaking just because the supplement did not work for you it does not automatically label the supplement as "hype" that is just ridiculous thinking. "
Whacha :smokin: