Irish Cannon
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I mean, seriously...what else is there to do other than SLDL, curls, and good mornings? It seems like it's either those, or just a variation of it. Such as DB SLDL, or seated/kneeling/standing leg curl rather than lying leg curl.
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I mean, seriously...what else is there to do other than SLDL, curls, and good mornings? It seems like it's either those, or just a variation of it. Such as DB SLDL, or seated/kneeling/standing leg curl rather than lying leg curl.
3clipseGT
On my grind
Very true, a lot of people tend to over complicate legs i beleive. For a while all i did was squats and SLDL, maybe some extensions here n there or something.
Irish Cannon
Legend
Yep, same here. I'd pump out 7 sets of squats, 4 sets of extensions, and 5 sets SLDL.
Sometimes I'd do lots of volume though and do Squats, Front squats, Leg extensions, leg curls, and sldl. Those were insane workouts.
Ever since I've broken up hams and quads I am able to do a couple exercises without feeling like death. It's nice. Every workout of mine has two leg exercises (either ham or quad) but it makes me not hate training them. I just knock them out first and then do everything else.
3clipseGT
On my grind
Me and my training partner just did this , this passed week and i loved it.
Irish Cannon
Legend
Splitting up hams and quads?
I love doing it that way. You can really focus on each muscle group individually and it doesn't seem to ever make me sick. There really is no "leg day" for me anymore. Every workout I have has two leg exercises in it.
Irish Cannon
Legend
Whatever those cool looking "sex lines" are called, they're coming in better now.
Now just help me get rid of the lower abdominal fat. Hopefully adding HIIT will burn it off.
Now just help me get rid of the lower abdominal fat. Hopefully adding HIIT will burn it off.
shaddow
Well-known member
Napalm! :woohoo:
Irish Cannon
Legend
I've tried, man. Ran two bottles.
I can't say it didn't do anything, but I can't really say it did either. At least in the area I really have trouble with it didn't do much.
My next stack + some HIIT should take care of it. The problem I foresee is even if I do get rid of it, I have a feeling it will be near impossible to retain the results. I feel that having that layer of fat in that area is just a genetic flaw. My sister has it as well.
RenegadeRows
Well-known member
Awesome updates Irish. The endurance on BG definitely kicks butt 
Irish Cannon
Legend
I just woke up to find that my quads are not that sore at all. I'm very sad right now. Sad indeed.
I'll be switching up Leg Extensions for Front Squats next B1 workout. I don't know why I didn't do this yesterday anyways.
I'll be switching up Leg Extensions for Front Squats next B1 workout. I don't know why I didn't do this yesterday anyways.
Irish Cannon
Legend
So do I. They feel great. The only thing that's difficult about them is how they sort of cut off your air supply. Sometimes I feel like I'm going to pass out.
CTDeuce
MST Reppin Hard!
see if you can get some heavy kb's and then try them
It pretty much eliminates that problem.
Irish Cannon
Legend
Today was an off day, so nothing to really report. I felt pathetically lazy all day. I haven't done anything out of the house to day with the exception of the grocery store.
I carbed up pretty well today. Just had some whole wheat pasta with a big chicken breast and some alfredo sauce. Before that I had some whole wheat ravioli with chicken. I've also been eating some sugar-free oatmeal cookies. I guess the cookies aren't "good carbs" but they're not HORRIBLE.
I'll be starting my HIIT after breakfast tomorrow. Schedule will probably be something like...
0900: Breakfast
1000: Take Blue Gene and stretch, jump rope to warm up
1030-1045: HIIT on spin bike
I carbed up pretty well today. Just had some whole wheat pasta with a big chicken breast and some alfredo sauce. Before that I had some whole wheat ravioli with chicken. I've also been eating some sugar-free oatmeal cookies. I guess the cookies aren't "good carbs" but they're not HORRIBLE.
I'll be starting my HIIT after breakfast tomorrow. Schedule will probably be something like...
0900: Breakfast
1000: Take Blue Gene and stretch, jump rope to warm up
1030-1045: HIIT on spin bike
VolcomX311
Legend
Your quads reflect it :thumbsup:
dragonfly
Well-known member
I feel like passing out on EACH AND EVERY leg day I do :icon_lol:
True about front squats though, they are great, they work the core to a greater extent than regular squats, plus, they force you to stay up-right. I have a tendency to lean forward on conventional squats, think it is because my quads are much tighter than my hams. I should stretch them more but I am too lazy
Irish Cannon
Legend
You definitely should try it after you take your week off. I love doing it this way. I feel like I get a better concentration on the muscle. If you do legs all in one day, whatever exercise is last, or even the last two, are going to suffer from the first exercises you've done. If you only do two exercises, you won't have a problem with fatigue.
Irish Cannon
Legend
Quick Q:
Do you guys think it would be beneficial to buy AP if I would only be taking it for one-two days out of the week?
Since I carb up on Friday/Saturday night, but the rest of my diet is low carb, would it serve much of a purpose?
Do you guys think it would be beneficial to buy AP if I would only be taking it for one-two days out of the week?
Since I carb up on Friday/Saturday night, but the rest of my diet is low carb, would it serve much of a purpose?
Irish Cannon
Legend
I feel like passing out on EACH AND EVERY leg day I do :icon_lol:
True about front squats though, they are great, they work the core to a greater extent than regular squats, plus, they force you to stay up-right. I have a tendency to lean forward on conventional squats, think it is because my quads are much tighter than my hams. I should stretch them more but I am too lazy
Are you making sure you look at the ceiling when you do your squats?
Irish Cannon
Legend
Day 11
Today was my first day doing HIIT in a very long time. I have to say, it felt great!
I ate my usual big breakfast at around 9am. Got on the computer, sipped coffee, and read AM for a little while. Took my Blue Gene at about 11am, then hit the gym.
I stretched for about ten minutes, did some agility drills, and just screwed around in the group fitness room to get the blood flowing.
I hopped on the spin bike and warmed up for five minutes, then I did ten intervals at 30secs ON / 60secs OFF. I know that's a beginner pace, but I want to get my body used to it again.
I definitely built a good sweat and felt great during it. Although my legs were burning a bit anyways, I'm sure that without the Blue Gene it would have been much worse. My endurance was great, and I will be bumping up the amount of intervals next time. Probably to 13-15.
Since I carbed up yesterday, and I did HIIT this morning after breakfast (decently heavy carbohydrate meal), how should I handle my carbs today?
Today was my first day doing HIIT in a very long time. I have to say, it felt great!
I ate my usual big breakfast at around 9am. Got on the computer, sipped coffee, and read AM for a little while. Took my Blue Gene at about 11am, then hit the gym.
I stretched for about ten minutes, did some agility drills, and just screwed around in the group fitness room to get the blood flowing.
I hopped on the spin bike and warmed up for five minutes, then I did ten intervals at 30secs ON / 60secs OFF. I know that's a beginner pace, but I want to get my body used to it again.
I definitely built a good sweat and felt great during it. Although my legs were burning a bit anyways, I'm sure that without the Blue Gene it would have been much worse. My endurance was great, and I will be bumping up the amount of intervals next time. Probably to 13-15.
Since I carbed up yesterday, and I did HIIT this morning after breakfast (decently heavy carbohydrate meal), how should I handle my carbs today?
Irish Cannon
Legend
Well not like straight up haha. I keep my head back, though. It helps to keep your back straighter. Do some air squats right now and try it out.
Irish Cannon
Legend
Ya, this seems to help that.
Assuming you aren't squatting in a cathedral, tilt your head back and look at where the wall meets the ceiling.
How do you do the bar placement?
Irish Cannon
Legend
Have you tried placing the bar further back?
That's actually not a bad idea to begin with. LG Sciences impressed me when I did the log for them. Maybe I should give Slin a go.
metroba
Legend
Yeah I try and put it as far back as possible without it slipping. And yes its in a cathedral.
Irish Cannon
Legend
Where the heck are all the SLIN logs? I thought there were supposed to be a few testers.
Irish Cannon
Legend
Ahhh yes. I've been there myself. Downtown Orlando, correct?
CTDeuce
MST Reppin Hard!
That i'm not sure of.
CraigMatthew is taking it right now though if you wanna ask him about it.
rolandajoint
Well-known member
ive been doing CKD the past 5 weeks, and i used AP for usually the first carb meals of the day, which are my biggest.
for example i dose AP with my WMS + XTEND cocktail post w/o which has 100g WMS and i take that about 20 mins after AP, which i dose in the locker room.
then saturday i use it for my breakfast with about 70 grams oats with about 8-10 grams brown sugar.
sometimes ill pig out on my carb ups and dose 2 ap's for an exceptionally large carb meal like a buffet.
Irish Cannon
Legend
Have you seen much difference?
My breakfast meal has a pretty high amount of carbs, but other than that the only time I really have them in any high amount (50g+) is on Friday or Saturday night when I'm carbing up.
My breakfast meal has a pretty high amount of carbs, but other than that the only time I really have them in any high amount (50g+) is on Friday or Saturday night when I'm carbing up.
rolandajoint
Well-known member
i respond fairly well to AP, so yeah i feel a big difference when i use it for the carb ups. especially when going from about 20 grams/day sunday through friday, then 100g post w/o friday, i fill out instantly. and even saturday after ive already basically carbed up all day, i still feel that "food pump".
i say try it out a couple times. if you dont end up liking it, youll still have the rest of the bottle to try out later when your diet utilizes more carbs and you can dose it more consistently.
Irish Cannon
Legend
I may give it a shot. I'll add it to my supps for consideration. My next stack is going to be pretty intense I hope.
*****
Just a side note about the Blue Gene --- My appetite has been extremely high. About two hours ago I ate a large chicken breast, about 4oz of ground beef, ten spears of asparagus, and a half can of black beans and right now I am STARVING and have been for at least a half hour.
The HIIT may have something to do with it, but the appetite has been getting increasingly higher each day.
*****
Just a side note about the Blue Gene --- My appetite has been extremely high. About two hours ago I ate a large chicken breast, about 4oz of ground beef, ten spears of asparagus, and a half can of black beans and right now I am STARVING and have been for at least a half hour.
The HIIT may have something to do with it, but the appetite has been getting increasingly higher each day.
rolandajoint
Well-known member
what ideas do you have for the next stack?
Irish Cannon
Legend
Well, my staple supplementation is: Whey/Casein/Leucine/MultiVit/ZMA/CLA
The additions will probably be something like...
BlueUp/AX/ATD/Dicreatine Mal/BA/1-C/RPM/Clen/ECA/Cordygen5...and then AP if I decide to do that.
rolandajoint
Well-known member
a leucine guy huh. did you used to use bcaa's? and if you did, do you notice a difference in recovery or muscle preservation?
after my sponsored mass fx and neovar logs, i think im going to definitely hit up a contolled labs run. start with blue gene, purple wraath, and white flood i think, and depending on how i like neovar, i will probably use that also. or might just do a whole AN stack: drive, rpm, neovar, maybe igf-2, or if their new products are released soon i may run one of those.
Irish Cannon
Legend
I LOVE megadosing Leucine.
Controlled Labs has always been good to me. Haven't really ever gotten into AN, but everyone is always saying how great RPM is so I figured I'd try it.
I'd go with the CL stack. Replace the Neovar for Green Bulge.
Controlled Labs has always been good to me. Haven't really ever gotten into AN, but everyone is always saying how great RPM is so I figured I'd try it.
I'd go with the CL stack. Replace the Neovar for Green Bulge.
rolandajoint
Well-known member
im a big AN fan, and especially a big RPM fan.
and ive never used a CL product. ive tried purple wraath a few times, but i have never really gotten a chance really use any other their stuff. and all their products are solid in terms of feedback and ingredients, i guess it prolly is about time to run their stuff.
i got 8 weeks before i need to worry about another stack tho.
VolcomX311
Legend
Me, too. That's how I originally found AM. After much reading about Leucine, I became a huge fan, and during one of my leucine research sessions, I clicked on a post discussing leucine and it brought me to AM.
VolcomX311
Legend
I was into Leucine before Gakic and Leukic, and other heavily Leucine based supps.
When NO first came out, I did a bunch of research on NO's catalysts, which were Arginine and Ornithine, and this lead me to research a TON about aminos in general. Then I read a book written by a professor called, Nutrient Timing, which first brought my attention to leucine and post workout nutrition. Already a fan of Leucine, I was discussing bodybuilding nutrition with one of my professors, who gets hired by MT and the like to independently test new products. That same professor showed me a published research journal he did on Leucine and muscle hypertrophy, and that sealed the deal. There are still mediating factors, such as at what dose is there a threshold for benefits. Meaning, the more the better hasn't been tested, but in my professor's personal study, he used 7g pre and 7g post. I've always dosed it 5-10g pre, 5-10g post, but knowing exactly how the doses are effecting you are very difficult and subjective. I wished it worked like stims, where you can tell the difference between 200, 400 and 600mg of caffeine.
When NO first came out, I did a bunch of research on NO's catalysts, which were Arginine and Ornithine, and this lead me to research a TON about aminos in general. Then I read a book written by a professor called, Nutrient Timing, which first brought my attention to leucine and post workout nutrition. Already a fan of Leucine, I was discussing bodybuilding nutrition with one of my professors, who gets hired by MT and the like to independently test new products. That same professor showed me a published research journal he did on Leucine and muscle hypertrophy, and that sealed the deal. There are still mediating factors, such as at what dose is there a threshold for benefits. Meaning, the more the better hasn't been tested, but in my professor's personal study, he used 7g pre and 7g post. I've always dosed it 5-10g pre, 5-10g post, but knowing exactly how the doses are effecting you are very difficult and subjective. I wished it worked like stims, where you can tell the difference between 200, 400 and 600mg of caffeine.
RenegadeRows
Well-known member
Sounds great man!!! Let me know if I can be of any assistance. :thumbsup:
dragonfly
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Hey Irish, if you want to make the best out of your carb re-feeds go for USPLabs P-Slin, that thing is INSANE !!! It is more pricey than AP but it sends you hypo with a MUCH MUCH larger amount of carbs than AP. Also, even AP non-responders seem to respond to P-slin. Just my opinion, but it may be a better investment strategy for you
dragonfly
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MOST DEFINITELY AM (couldn't imagine looking anywhere else really, NO way I'd look down :fool2:, and to look straight ahead would mean I'd have to restrain myself from laughing at the mirror image of my pain-grimace-distorted face :icon_lol
, and I try to keep the bar low on my back too.Irish Cannon
Legend
Hahahah. "Pain-grimace-distorted face" - I've actually dropped the bar doing shrugs laughing at myself. Now I just stare up and think, "I really hope nobody is looking at me right now."
Irish Cannon
Legend
Shaddow, it's impossible for you to not be a stud. :lol: