DOH!!! It's like I know they are different companies but I think of them as your products which gets me running them all in together. Sorry for the confusion. I am going to pull the trigger on a couple of Pump Addict tubs then and will probably look at the creatine during the Easter sale.
No worries, I was just confused for a moment and then I thought that may have been what you meant.
On here, a lot of people think of them interchangeably but all of the companies are completely separate companies, separate websites, finances, etc. - and outside of here, largely separate customer bases.
I think that you'll be very very happy with Pump Addict Ultra Hardcore.
There are times that I do wish I'd put that formula under the SNS or CEL brands so it would get more talk and attention here, but it truly worth being a flagship product for Muscle Addiction as it is very cost effective per serving, extremely versatile, and great for both pumps and clean energy.
For a lot of people that try it, its their new favorite pre-workout, especially those that are used to more traditional mainstream type pre's.